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Re: D&H Heritage Unit

 

Doesn’t Canadian Pacific still own the D&H name ?
Re: D

 

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Thanks!
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Montreal River Bridge? ONR? 1996
Alberta 1996

From: Al Whalen
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [DandH-Railroad] D
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Lead unit rear headlight may be on due to incorrect or malfuntioning MU control switches.? Each unit in a consist has to have the headlight MU switch in the proper position (there are 4 choices) for the lights to be controlled from the lead unit.? Many engineers have a habit of intentionally or inadvertently leaving the rear headlight on at all times.? It's just one of those things.? No rules require it.
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Al
Re: D

 

Lead unit rear headlight may be on due to incorrect or malfuntioning MU control switches.? Each unit in a consist has to have the headlight MU switch in the proper position (there are 4 choices) for the lights to be controlled from the lead unit.? Many engineers have a habit of intentionally or inadvertently leaving the rear headlight on at all times.? It's just one of those things.? No rules require it.

Al
Re: D&H Heritage Unit

 

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Headlight is on because the engineer has his headlight control switch in the wrong position.?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bill><> <madog@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
To: DandH io <[email protected]>
Sent: 01/22/20 08:52:30
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] D&H Heritage Unit
Does anyone know why NS did not paint up a heritage unit since they took over the old A&S seems fitting?
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Bill><>
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2015? the old signal mast at 480, would also like to know why the rear headlight is on 6752?
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5-19-15 480 old signals
Re: D&H Heritage Unit

 

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Ray,

From what I understand, there were some component roads that had a heritage scheme designed, but not implemented. This was the case for the New Haven and likely the L&HR. When you look at the portions of those systems that actually were in service under NS, it made sense. The only portion of the NH that NS operated was the very small segment from Campbell Hall to just outside of Maybrook...maybe 6 miles.? L&HR operated by NS was also extremely short, maybe 20 miles. They couldn't paint an engine for every component road they had, and it makes sense that smaller roads weren't done.?

Jim Rowland

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Raymond Wetzel via Groups.Io <sevenspringss1@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 11:51 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DandH-Railroad] D&H Heritage Unit
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For that matter, the question remains as to why NS never painted up a heritage unit for the Lehigh & Hudson River Rwy,
which of course they took over from Warwick to Maybrook, cut back to the new Hudson Jct (between East Hall and
Burnside), but I've never read nor heard anyone ever mention this.

Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill><> <madog@...>
To: DandH io <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2020 10:52 am
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] D&H Heritage Unit

Does anyone know why NS did not paint up a heritage unit since they took over the old A&S seems fitting?
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Bill><>
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2015? the old signal mast at 480, would also like to know why the rear headlight is on 6752?
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5-19-15 480 old signals
Re: D&H Heritage Unit

 

For that matter, the question remains as to why NS never painted up a heritage unit for the Lehigh & Hudson River Rwy,
which of course they took over from Warwick to Maybrook, cut back to the new Hudson Jct (between East Hall and
Burnside), but I've never read nor heard anyone ever mention this.

Ray


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill><> <madog@...>
To: DandH io <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Jan 22, 2020 10:52 am
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] D&H Heritage Unit

Does anyone know why NS did not paint up a heritage unit since they took over the old A&S seems fitting?
?
Bill><>
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2015? the old signal mast at 480, would also like to know why the rear headlight is on 6752?
?
5-19-15 480 old signals
D&H Heritage Unit

 

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Does anyone know why NS did not paint up a heritage unit since they took over the old A&S seems fitting?
?
Bill><>
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2015? the old signal mast at 480, would also like to know why the rear headlight is on 6752?
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5-19-15 480 old signals
Dick Cooper Time Book - with E.B. King

 

3/1/55 SC14 to WE & Ausable, power 4037, yard rate, marked on Plattsburgh 1:45 PM, marked off Plattsburgh 7:35 PM, on duty 5:50, paid $15.51 for 100 miles, E.B. King engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox
Dick Cooper Time Book - D&H Steam

 

1/16/52 #205, power P class 4-6-2 609, passenger rate, marked on Binghamton 6:25 AM, marked off Colonie 12:20 PM, on duty 5:55, paid $16.64 for 149 miles, Nastke engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox
Re: NE84/87

 
Edited

I often wonder that instead of trackage rights if they had received ownership to Buffalo, Allentown, Oak Island, and maybe even Harrisburg, and they didn't need to rely on Conrail traffic control if they would have had better odds.? But then again, I guess once you figure in track and ROW maintenance etc., maybe it wouldn't have helped.? Obviously Conrail was set up not to fail, so to add any type of real competition for it would have been counterproductive.? D&H probably would still have ended up under NS ownership by now anyway.
?- Mark
Re: NE84/87

david kruschwitz
 

I'm sure someone else (Gordon Smith?) can give you a better and more accurate timeline, but the D&H trains to and from Pot Yard moved with D&H crews all the way, moving via Harrisburg and down the Port Road.? I don't believe Conrail crews were involved - D&H had trackage rights and exercised them. If I remember correctly,? pre-Conrail, NE-84 and 87 originally moved to and from Pot Yard via Philadelphia/ Park Jct with Reading and B&O crews.


On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 4:41 PM <mmatt378@...> wrote:
Wow didn't realize it lasted that late.? I guess D&H paired up with Conrail pools....

Re: NE84/87

 

Wow didn't realize it lasted that late.? I guess D&H paired up with Conrail pools....
Re: NE84/87

 

Mark,

The last entry for NE84/87 in Dad's time book is 9/20/81 so it ran at least to that date.

Ed

On Monday, January 20, 2020, 12:31:34 PM UTC, mmatt378@... <mmatt378@...> wrote:


Did this train get abolished in 1976 after ConRail and what replaced NE-84/NE-87 once it was abolished?

Thanks,
Mark

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Ed Cox
NE84/87

 

Did this train get abolished in 1976 after ConRail and what replaced NE-84/NE-87 once it was abolished?

Thanks,
Mark
Dick Cooper Time Book - Whitehall 1968

 

8/15/68 WR1, power 709-708-707, through freight rate, marked on Oneonta 10:45 AM, marked off Whitehall 2.45 PM, on duty 4:00, paid $31.40 for 130 Miles, R. Gallespee engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox
Dick Cooper Time Book - 1975

 

8/25/75 WR1, power N&W 8524-8535-8515-8533-8531, through freight rate, marked on Oneonta 9:00 PM, 15" initial terminal delay, marked off Whitehall 6:00 AM, on duty 9:00, paid $68.01 for 146 miles, Jack A. Farrell engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox
Dick Cooper Time Book - 1950s

 

6/25/52 Lower End Yard, power 3012, yard rate, marked on Mechanicville 4:00 PM, marked off Mechanicville 11:59 PM, on duty 7:59, paid $14.55 for 100 miles, Quinlan engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox
Dick Cooper Time Book - Guilford Error

 

12/20/84 Regular day off.

12/21/84 PYRP, power B&M 202-MEC 255-D&H 414-B&M 210, through freight rate, marked on Mechanicville 10:00 PM, taxi to Mohawk, 35" initial terminal delay, marked off Rouses Point 9:00 AM, on duty 11:00, paid $243.23 for 235 miles, Cooper engineer, no fireman, Dave "Da Da" Waters conductor.

Ed Cox
Dick Cooper Time Book - 1960s

 

3/25/60 Layed in.

3/26/60 SC15, power 4096-4106, yard rate, marked on Plattsburgh 9:00 AM, marked off Plattsburgh 6:35 PM, on duty 9:35, paid $26.69 for 120 miles, H.W. Baker engineer, Cooper fireman.
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Ed Cox
Re: Diesel Class Book(s)

 

Good Morning:

For those who may not have been able to open my attachment, I have uploaded the file to the groups page (thank you Admin Scott for the help).? The reason why I am asking the status of class books after 1970 is that the Bridge Line Historical Society has loaned me books that are up to 1969/1970.? Were any locomotive drawings included in the books that was created in 1976 that included the freight cars, work cars and cabooses that went to the D&H with the Conrail creation?

Chris
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