DRO & Quick Change Tool Post for Dalton Six B-4
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Hello Dalton lathe group! I'm looking to install a X axis DRO on my Dalton B-5 Lot 5 as well as a quick change tool post to replace the lantern type. Has anyone done this? Is there any information out there regarding such modifications?
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New to Dalton lathes!
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Hello! I just recently purchased a Lot 4 Dalton Six (SN 2848, pictures here https://imgur.com/gallery/2M2FI7V ) that is in moderately good condition. I am slowly cleaning and figuring out what work it will take to get it running again and I have a few questions I am hoping some of the people in this group can answer. Any idea on the year of this lathe? My guess is late 1919 or 1920 but I haven't been able to find too much information on the serial number ranges. Does anybody know the specs on the change gears? I realize that gears are probably hard to find so I will have to make my own but if anybody knows the pitch, pressure angle, or any other info on the gears it will make things a lot easier. This lathe has a bit of wear so I am worried if I take measurements off the gears I'll end up making something sloppy. Lastly, there is the same question but for the main lead screw. Mine is pretty worn and I know it's a 3/4-12 but I don't know if it's an acme profile or something special. I'd prefer to buy a spare if anybody has any around but I have a feeling I'll need to get a replacement machined. If anybody else needs a new lead screw maybe we could get a few made and split the cost. Thanks for your time! John
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Dalton Six B-4 Lot 5 # 247
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I recently purchased a Dalton lathe from a watch maker who looked as old as the lathe. He explained to me his friend owned it and left it at his shop when he decided to pick up and retire in France. Go Figure. It comes with no other gears but seems to be in pretty good shape. I am confused on a couple things. First, what is the purpose of the water spigot/star knob on the x carriage? when turned, it moves the the carriage but it seems to be in a bad spot and the larger wheel to its left preforms the same function. My second questions pertains to the lever at the top near the pully drives. When pulled, this lever seems to lock up the spindle and move a sleeve toward the stepped pulleys. What is the purpose? Is it to allow for belt maneuvers? I would like to know the apprx age of the machine. Last patent date is 1917. Also, this lathe will be used in production to make small parts. I am very impressed with the machines design. Being a submersible engineer, i have seen well thought out designs as well as very poor designs and this machine is very well designed for ease of use and adjustment. Thank you for the help, Jon Lathe was bought and is located in Melbourne Florida
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Hi from a new member
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Hi everyone, I'm Mark from Leicester in the UK. I thought I'd say hello to you all as I finally got around to getting this old girl making swarf... My Dalton Lot 6, which I've owned for over 23 years, but has been out of commission for some time.
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Lot 4 Dalton - Info and Question about grease vs oil
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Hi Dalton Enthusiasts! Thanks for so many pictures and helpful links in support of these really nice machines. I have a Lot 4 serial # 3033 that is dressed in an old powder coating. This one was covered in about an inch of sawdust (it's in a woodshop). It took me awhile to get dusted off, cleaned, oiled and greased. It's running ok now but I'll be working on more cleaning and perhaps a conversion to oil. Thanks again for all the pictures and information posted here. Special big thanks to Tony the Dalton guy for so much great information as well. All that helped me understand what I had and how to fix it. The six speed headstock is kind of a mind bender, I found this patent that explains the gears, as well as some very helpful diagrams. https://patents.google.com/patent/US1488232A/en?q=lathe&inventor=Hubert+Dalton&oq=inventor:(Hubert+Dalton)+lathe This Dalton was owned by a family member who said it was used on an early US submarine for the navy. The kit includes a 3 jaw (with an extra set of jaws), a 4 jaw, a few plates, and some other bits of kit that are all coated with the same powder coating. The drive pulley looks like for an overhead mounting (my guess), and sits behind on the bench. The drive pulley is coated similarly. Including some pictures of this for those interested. If there's any other pictures you'd like to see I'll send em. One question: what are the pros and cons of grease vs oil? Many of the setups here are oil, and if anyone can speak to the reasons why I might undertake a conversion project, I'd be grateful to hear your take on it. I'm researching this but any help is much appreciated. Thanks again!
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Dalton Lot 2 Lathe
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Hi, I'm a new member having recently bought a Dalton Lot 2 Lathe, as such I have a few questions I'd like to ask regarding my new acquisition. I have some play on the Cross Slide Feed, I don't know if there is any adjustment I can make to eleviate the play (quite a lot of play) if not where could I buy a new Feed Nut for the Cross Slide Feed. Unlike all other Dalton Lathes the Lot 2 Lathe has no Micrometer Dial (on the Cross Slide ) making cuts into the workpiece more difficult to check, is there a Micrometer Dial I might fit to my Lathe to make this action easier to monitor. Bryan Alton (UK)
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New Member
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Hi everyone, being new to your Group I better introduce myself, I’m Bryan, I live in the UK and have recently acquired a Dalton Lathe, it’s a “Lot 2” number 23, it’s a very small Lathe, the Bed is only 20” long, centre to centre about 12” if I’m measuring it correctly, centre of the Chuck to the Bed 3 ?”, see photo of Lathe as attached. Being an old Lathe there is some play in the Cross Slide Feed which I was going to ask for guidance on but it might be better to read through some of the Messages on this Topic on your Forum first.
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New Member Bryan Alton with a Dalton Lot 2 Lathe
Hello everybody, I've joined your group following acquiring a Dalton Lot 2 Lathe No. 23, I live in Derbyshire, United Kingdom. All I know about this Lathe it's what I've read on the "Lathes" website and the History given on your webpage, it's a nice little Lathe but does have two issues i'd like to remedy if I can. 1) I have play on the spindle drive (not sure if this is the right term) to the Cross Drive Feed, how can I take up the play in this, is there any adjustments or can I replace the Feed Nut. 2)There is no Micrometer Dial on my Lathe, I believe this is normal on Dalton Lot 2 Lathes, can you suggest a remedy for this so I can monitor the extent of my cuts to the Workpiece. I have sent a previous message which may have been a bit forward so remains undisplayed, so perhaps you could delete that one. Regards Bryan Alton
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OOPS! Sorry Folks this was suposed to go to one person
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I wrote you a few days back and you didn’t reply. you doin ok? -Bart or am I in your spam bucket? :)
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Is this a Dalton lathe?
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Does anyone have an idea who made this lathe I bought it on Saturday and it seems to run very well but neither the seller nor me know how old it is or who made it. I have attached a picture.
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Is this a Dalton?
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Sorry I am not exactly a computer whiz but I think I did attach the photo here successfully.
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New Chat: Is this a Dalton lathe?
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A new chat has been created: New I bought this lathe on Saturday it seems to work really well despite being quite old; but neither the seller nor me know what make it is. I think it may be a Dalton, could anyone out there identify it for me? A picture is attached. Dalton1.jpg By: wauhopm@... View/Join This Chat Do not reply to this message to post to the chat. You can participate in chats only through the group's website.
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New member
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Hello everyone. I would like to introduce myself. My name is Billy and I am a new Dalton lathe owner. It is a lot 4 ser. no.1066 and is a 30” machine. It sits on a a chip pan and regular legs without a cabinet and came with a 3 jaw Chuck, a mystery plate that screws on the nose, a steady rest, the counter drive, and a set of change gears. The change gears are a little different than the ones listed that come with it on here though. There are 14: 24, 24, 36, 40, 44, 46, 48, 52, 54, 56, 60, 66, 72, and the spoked 96. Also the thread chart plate on the gear cover looks to have a factory modification on the 40 through 56 thread spots. Has anyone else encountered this? Thank you
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6" chuck
I have a line on a Shars 6 I have a line on a 6" Shars soft jaw chuck that is less expensive and more accurate than the 5" solid jaw I've priced. Can I hang it on my lot 5 without damage? The chuck height is 2 9/16. Also, the back plate is threaded for 1 1/2 -8. Any thoughts on pressing a 1 1/4 -12 bushing for mounting? I'd rather not make a new one Thanks Larry
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Lot 5 clutch
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Greetings I removed the lead screw from my lot 5 today for a good cleaning and , while I was at it, the apron as well. After removing 100 yrs of gunk I found................ no wear to speak of! no scoring, worn gear teeth, or sloppy half nut. I did find 2 small cracks in the worm gear carrier at the 12 o'clock position at its weakest point. I also found a cone clutch. Is this used for turning? If so, how does it work as I see no way to engage it. Anyway, the old girl is back together cutting threads like a champ. Any help appreciated. Be well Larry
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lathe age
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Hi thankyou for letting me join your group I have a dalton lathe with no model no , on the rear stock there is a plate with the markings no 1114123 1114124 on the left side on the right hand side the no is 45857 and 45858 dates for pattern 2 nd june 1914 lower down is a date 20 oct 1914 . I will send a picture many thanks gordon Virus-free. www.avg.com
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A few questions about my Lot 4
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Good evening, Well, I finally decided to move my Dalton into the basement after having problems with rust and freezing fingers trying to use my lathe in my unheated garage. I painted the floor and walls to help reduce moisture in there and I think it will come together nicely a new shop space. While moving my lathe, I came up with a few questions that I thought I'd ask the group about. What is the little brass cap with the metal and felt wick on the tailstock for? My drill chuck ejects properly from the tailstock, but my dead centers don't. Is there a way to adjust the "ejection" feature of the tailstock when you move the tail spindle all the way in? Now that my lathe is inside, and probably will be for the next 10 years, what should I be checking, replacing, or servicing? Is there the equivalent of a tune-up guide somewhere? My ways have some scraping visible, but the rest is worn. Is this the kind of thing I could learn to do or have done, or is it best left alone? I have one of those orange polyurethane belt on it now, but I also have a leather one in a box. Any reason to favor one over another? The orange has alway bothered me. Any idea how to date my lathe? It says Lot B-4 on the lovely brass plaques and has 5179 stamped on the bed. Many thanks! Ryan Manchester, MA
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Oldest Dalton has been found.
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Hi guys. On one of the Face book user groups a guy came up with some pictures of a Dalton. Turns out its a Lot 2 serial number 4. That makes it the oldest Dalton known of. Its a much modified lathe unfortunately. Riser blocks have been put under the head stock and tail stock to make it a 9 inch lathe rather than the 6 inch it started out in life as. It also has a Lot 4 end door cross slide and compound slide. Funny thing is its still in all its original finish. I will try and steal pictures of Facebook and post them if I can. Also the lathe is so early that its has its lot and serial number stamped on the front bed way not the rear and is also stamped Lot 1 so this makes it a lathe that started out as the very first ones built and then Dalton must have decided to call the combination machine Lot 1 and the first little 6 inch lathe Lot 2. I would love to have gotten my hands on this little lathe unfortunately its in the hands of a rank beginner and he is only interested in making parts with it and has no intentions of restoring it or bringing it back to its original condition. Dennis
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1918 Dalton Type B4 - with no serial #
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My 104 year old (born in 1916) Grandfather died last week and I now have a Dalton lathe that he owned and loved for most of his life. He told me the story of picking up the lathe during the Great Depression when - I believe he said - the lathe was being phased out or replaced by the shop (I believe in NY) - that had been using it. He died with a piece of brass still in the machine - he enjoyed making candle sticks with the lathe. I was trying to determine what lot and serial # were marked on the lathe - but I can’t seem to find it where I believe it should be. Here are some photos of the lathe and the area where I thought the serial # should have been. Any ideas what this lathe is and why there doesn’t appear to be a serial #? I measured the distance from the center of the work piece to the top rail - also shown below.
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