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The CPR makes a big mess with a train in Chelmsford, ON, and not a single
word is mentioned about it here? What a sorry excuse for a CPR list this
one is. :)

Anyway, as a result of the derailment CPR detoured some trains over CN
between Boyne and Oba and between Boyne and Thunder Bay.

PSB

Are SD40-2s 5767, 5863 and 5911 still in the large multimark paint? I guess these
are the last three so-painted units in revenue service eh?

Manny Jacob
Kitchener, Ont.

"Manny's CP Rail SD40-2 site" ...

well, not much really to say about it.
about 12 - 13 cars jumped the track about 3:30 - 4:00 in the morning,
looking mostly from the photos of the news, mostly empty center beam flats
were involved. some landing within about 50 feet from some people's homes!!.
don't know much else about it, didn't really get a chance to venture out
there for photos. Take care guys
Tom Sajnovic

Bill Miller wrote:

From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>

At 03:12 PM 5/24/1999 -0400, you wrote:

From: Doug Hately <cprnut@...>

Eastbound today at lunchtime at Bowmanville were the trucks and frame
for a new GM locomotive. I presume these are bound to Super Steel
in Schnectady. Anyone verify??

Likely. All the CP parts should be in Ogden by now. You likely saw the same cars I did Saturday night here on 512. There was one upside-down frame and about six trucks on three flats ??

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Yes-- these were the same cars as Bill Saw. They were on the head end
and I should have recorded the power (2 SD-40s and a SOO SD-60).
On another note, I see those SD-60s weigh 3000 lbs less than an SD40-2.
Are they on a longer frame or do they just look like it because the hood
is longer??
Doug Hately

From: "Manny Jacob" <railbus@...

Barring any tests, what is the default coal car for >British Columbia

coal trains

at the time?

The normal car for most unit coal trains is still the CPR style bathtub
coal hopper in the 3 height versions. These cars are usually not sorted
into groups based on the height variations. Depending on the
customer's requirements the cars will be CP or Procor. These are black
with multimark, black without multimark, action red (covered in coal
dust so red is usually hard to pick out), or in the case of the Procor
cars, black with white Procor lettering and dimi data. Usually the
Procor sets operate as one complete train but there are instances where
the odd Procor car is mixed in with the CP sets.

There is at least one unique set of Johnstown aluminum cars with ALMX
reporting marks, leased from the Transisco Railway company. These are
aluminum in colour with yellow rotary ends and black ends on the other
side.

Another Procor set operates with the Johnstown Areoflow cars (no
external ribs are visible) with UNPX reporting marks. These are also
aluminum with yellow rotary ends and black on the other.

I have been noticing that there are a few old style coal cars mixed in
various sets and these cars look like the rebuilt bathtubs that the
Sultran sulfur trains are using. These old cars carry CP reporting
marks without any titles or multimarks and look pretty much the worse
for wear.

Last year there was a set of SOO coal cars looking like the Johnstown
coal porters in BC coal service. These cars where black with white
markings and a white stripe to mark the rotary end. I don't think
these where actually the Johnstown cars.

As well, what is the normal motive power >configuration for these

trains at this

present time?

Normally loaded coal trains operate 2 head end and one mid train slave
AC4400's (west of Golden, B.C.) in the 9500 or 9600 series. Perhaps
someone can correct this information for trains on the Windemere sub
(south of Golden)

Empties operate often without the midtrain slave or have it moved to
the front. Another common summer configuration is for only one AC4400
on the point with a single midtrain slave. I believe this varies
according to the power balance between Roberts bank and the mines.


Thanks

Doug Campbell
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Hi folks!,

Seems after a bit of a lul in "big power", AC traction activity is back up
on the Mactier/Parry Sound sub.

See the lineup for today (May 26) on Mile 77 and check out trains 401, 407,
403, 404, 406 and 412.




Also, with the brake probs fixed, more 90MACs are showing up (leading).

In a way, I like the little gaps when the power reverts back to the
SD40-2s. Keeps it from getting boring and help keep from taking the new AC
stuff for granted.


Enjoy the trains, but above all, stay safe!

Wayne



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Sudbury, Ontario Canada
mailto:regaudie@...

Canadain Pacific Railway, Lakes District
Mile 77, Cartier Subdivision

Mile 77 website:
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At 23:16 25/05/99 -0700, you wrote:

From: G Sherwood <cnylen@...>

Seems CP 9648 has had it's front door replaced with a door from the first
batch GE's or some one placed the wrong decal on the nose .It now reads Cb


Greg Sherwood

Thanks for the warning Greg! :)

Wayne





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Sudbury, Ontario Canada
mailto:regaudie@...

Canadain Pacific Railway, Lakes District
Mile 77, Cartier Subdivision

Mile 77 website:
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Seems CP 9648 has had it's front door replaced with a door from the first
batch GE's or some one placed the wrong decal on the nose .It now reads Cb


Greg Sherwood

I see there is a 9000 on an 800 series train in BC ......... this would be a coal train, but are bulk trains of any sort not the almost exclusive domain of GE's any more ??



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Hello everyone,

Barring any tests, what is the default coal car for British Columbia coal trains
at the time? Are bathtub gondolas still the norm? Or has a newer car come onto the
scene as the definite replacement?

Again, I'm not so much interested in tests, just what new cars may have actually
come into revenue service.

As well, what is the normal motive power configuration for these trains at this
present time?

Manny Jacob
Kitchener, Ont.

"Manny's CP Rail SD40-2 site" ...

*Symbol indicates CP motive power in dual-flag candy apple red paint
scheme-lettered CP Rail System.
Port Coquitlam, B.C.(Westend of yard)
September 11, 1993
1852-For westbound transfer-GP-35's 5022-5002-5020
1852-Deadhead arriving off Westminster sub from Sapperton or New
Westminster-GP-35 5015-GP-9u 8214
1900-GP-38 3002 and streamlined light-weight coach 1700 backing into
yard ex west.
1912-Grain unit train from east runthrough to downtown
Vancouver-SD40-2's 5867-5557 them id-train units SD40-2's 5761-B
unit-*5520.
Same location
September 18, 1993
Included in locomotive lashup freight from east-SD40-2 *5478 B-unit ex
Norfolk Southern
September 28, 1993
Same location
0915- newly outshopped yard engine GP-9 1583 in candy red lettered CP
Rail.
Year 1995
Same Location
March 27, 1995
1325-Transfer from CP Mayfair Intermodal terminal and Sapperton off
southwest Westminster sub-containers and general.
Units-GP-38's 3001-3000. A number of Soo Line container cars-Quebec
Central green forest products cars.
westend yard engine- GP-9 1582
1350- Transfer arriving of Westminster sub GP-38 3007-GP-35 5008
March 30, 1995
Same location
1105-Power for westbound transfer-CP GP35 5000 series-Helm Leasing
GP-40's 519-516 . Both Hem units ex Guilford and Guilford paint scheme.
March 31, 1995
Sulphur-unit train from east-runthrough to Pacific Coast Terminals at
Port Moody-SD40-2F 9000 series-SD40-2 unknown-Helm Leasing SD40-2(maroon
and black)SD40-2 600 series ex Kansas City Southern unit-purchased by CP
all white paint scheme relettered CP Rail in red and locomotive number
red-running board yellow.
April 1, 1995
Same location
Freight from east: SD40-2F 9003-Conrail 600 series-Soo SD40-2 6600
series-Soo SD-60 6000 series.
Remarks-Conrail 600 series believe SD40-2, Soo SD40-2 6600 series white
and red, Soo SD-60 6000 series in candy apple red scheme with new style
Soo lettering.
April 7, 1995
1015-Deadhead off Westminster sub for tieup at shop-Soo SD60-M
6059-SD40-2's *6047-5745-5593.
Had been runthrough earlier from east to Sapperton.
Westend yard power: GP-9's 1579, 1620.
1500-Container train from east-runthrough on Westminster sub to CP
Mayfair Intermodal Terminal:
SD40-2's 5568-5565-Helm Leasing 6370. Included double-stacks.
Remarks Helm Leasing SD40-2 6370ex Milwaukee Road, renumbered later by
Soo Line to 6300 series. Locomotive still wares Milwaukee Road paint
scheme-"Orange and Black".
Same location
May 1, 1995
1851- Deadhead off Westminster sub for tieup-was runthrough earlier from
east to CP Mayfair Intermodal terminal-Containers including
double-stacks:
SD40-2's 5500-5772 B-unit-Hatx 900-5972.
Remarks: Hatx unit 900 ex Union Pacific, still carries U.P. paint
scheme.
To Be Continued At a Later Date.
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.

Continued From May 23, 1999
CP Rail-Coquitlam, B.C.
Westend of yard:
August 27, 1993
1900- Transfer southwest on Westminster sub to Sapperton and New
Westminster-GP-35 5015-GP-9u 8214.
1900-Transfer ready southweston Westminster sub for Sapperton-GP-38
3004 -GP-35 5020-SD40-2's 5543-5745-5660-GP?-38 3007 total 113 cars.
Likely SD40-2's to pick up Intermodal eastbound at CP Mayfair Intermodal
Terminal.
1921-Freight arriving from east- SD40-2's 5807-5964-6068-B unit.
Westend yard engine GP-9 1620.
1950- Grain-unit train arriving from east SD40-2's 6022-6013-6064-B
unit.Same location:
August 28, 1993
Westend yard engine GP-9 1642.
Same location
August 31, 1993
1830-westend yard engine GP-9 1649
1830-deadhead westbound to downtown Vancouver-GP-38's 3011-3003-SD40-2's
5527-5480-B-5649
1855-Transfer arriving from downtown Vancouver-GP-35's 5019-5024-5025.
1910-Transfer from downtown Vancouver-empty grain cars-GP-9u
8217-GP-35's 5003-5016
1920-Sumas Local from eastCP/BN interchange-GP-35 5023-GP38-2
3058-GP-35's 5002-5014. Power later took transfer on Westminster sub
southwest to Sapperton .
1940- Power for transfer to Sapperton southwest-GP-35's 5016-5003-GP-9u
8217
September 4, 1993
Same location
1900 GP-35's 5016-5003-GP-9u's 8217-8220 power for transfer.
Westend yard engine GP-9 1697.
September 7, 1993
Same location
Grain-unit train from east at 1940 on passenger track-20 mins at station
then proceeded as runthrough to Vancouver:
SD40-2F 9014-SD40-2's 5944-5718-then Mid-train units SD40-2 6064-B
unit-SD40-2 6004.
Transfer from west-GP-35 5015-GP-9u 8217.
To Be continued.
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.

At 03:12 PM 5/24/1999 -0400, you wrote:

From: Doug Hately <cprnut@...>

Eastbound today at lunchtime at Bowmanville were the trucks and frame
for a new GM locomotive. I presume these are bound to Super Steel
in Schnectady. Anyone verify??

Likely. All the CP parts should be in Ogden by now. You likely saw the same cars I did Saturday night here on 512. There was one upside-down frame and about six trucks on three flats ??



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Eastbound today at lunchtime at Bowmanville were the trucks and frame
for a new GM locomotive. I presume these are bound to Super Steel
in Schnectady. Anyone verify??

Doug Hately

The gas-electrics/oil-electrics were more commonly referred to as
doodlebugs.

Donald Scott wrote:

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Rainer,and list

I was refering to your post of this subject and not about railink Rainer.

I talked to Ian and says the yard looks almost ready to go,and should open
soon

Steve

Due to an error on my part, "Archive" files were set to private instead of public which I believed would restrict access to members. However, it locked it up completely. This has been changed so there should be no problem now.

If there should be a problem, please direct it to me and not to the list.

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Blaine, Washington
April 9, 1993
Returning from Reno, Nev. at U.S./Canada border: CP America tractor
trailer crossing into B.C.-CP America a coast to coast CP trucking
subsidiary in the U.S. and crossing into Canada.
Port Coquitlam, B.C.
July 20, 1993
Westend of yard:
1909- westbound transfer: GP-38 3006-GP-35-SD40-2's
5582-5632-5776-general freight and grain to downtown Vancouver.
westend yard engine GP-9 1620
1950: freight arriving from east SD40-2's 5914-5739
July 20, 1993
Same location:
1930-westbound grain transfer to downtown Vancouver-SD40-2's
5733-5517-GP-35's 5021-5020
2000-Sumas local from Sumas/Huntington, Wash. from east Burlington
Northern/CP interchange GP-35's 5025-5003-5016.
2010-Transfer off southline from New Westminster and Sapperton-GP-38's
3011-3002. In consist Aroostook Valley Railroad 50 fot box car
155264(blue) former CP subsidiary in State of Maine.
July 24, 1993
Same location
CP Rail Family Days held at Port Coquitlam-special passenger with GP-38
and streamlined light-weight coach 1700 included tour of rail yard and
facilities.
July 27, 1993
same location
2050-Power for westbound transfer: GP-35's 5023-5014-GP-38 3005
From the news: Swedish hi-speed passenger train the X2000 makes trials
in Eastern Canada out of Toronto-locomotive sported CP Rail logo. CP
sponsored the X2000 bringing the train to Canada after tests in the U.S.
by Amtrak.
July 29, 1993
Port Coquitlam, B.C.
Transfer from CP's Mayfair Intermodal terminal west on New Westminster
sub-GP-35's 5017-5015 Consist all container traffic-included in consist
experimental "wheatainer".
August 9, 1993
Same location
2010-Transfer arriving yard from west -CP Mayfair Intermoodal terminal
New West sub-GP-38 3012-GP-35 5024. All container traffic.
CP News.
August 10, 1993
Canadian Pacific Limited has sold Canadian Pacific Forest Products
Limited for $700 million. CP Forest Products Limited has mills and
plants from Newfoundland to Vancouver Island, and a subsidiary in the
State of Washington.
August 16, 1993
Port Coquitlam, B.C.(westend of yard)
1825- Transfer form downtown Vancouver-grain empties-GP-9's
8236-8215-GP-38 3007
1840-Transfer from downtown Vancouver-power unknown
1900-Transfer from south line Westminster sub-from Sapperton-GP-35's
5016-5017 all empty Canpotex potash hoppers. Up to the 1980's period CP
Limited had 20% equity interest in this potash firm.
Yard engine GP-9 1582
1905- Outbound transfer south/west on Westminster sub to Sapperton and
New Westminster-GP-35's 5020-5021
1920-Westbound transfer GP-38 3011-GP-35 5019
1930-GP-35's for westbound transfer 5023-5014
1940- dead-head westbound GP-35's 5017-5016
1940- Power for westbound transfer-GP-9's 8215-8236
August 24, 1993
Same location:
Grain-unit train from east runthrough to downtown Vancouver-(1835 hours)

power: SD40-2's 5985-6023-6028-5760-B unit.
Yard engine GP-9 1620
1850-Grain unit train from east arrived at station(instead of main
yard)Made stop at station , two GP-35's added as helpers.
Train departed with GP-35's 5023-5014-SD40-2's 5726-5829-6051
1925-Transfer off Westminster sub from New Westminster and Sapperton
GP-38's 3002-3010
1940- Outbound transfer south/west on Westminster sub GP-38 3004-GP-35
5020-all BC Rail forest products empties to Sapperton ending up in North
Vancouver
1942- Intermodal transfer from CP's Mayfair intermodal terminal off
Westminster sub-GP-35's 5022-5025
To be continued.
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.

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