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FROM MY RECORDS-CPR TRAINSPOTTING-PORT COQUITLAM, B.C.-CIRCA-1998 B#82
Donald Scott
Continued From March 13, 2000 -B#77
Canadian Pacific Railway Trainspotting , Port Coquitlam(Vancouver Area)B.C. Uless Noted. All Observations from West-end of Yard. Doing Video Work: Mission B.C. March 18, 1998. 0840-Westbound grain-unit train-GE AC4400CW's 9518-9601-9568 0855-Dead-head power from Port Coquitlam via Mission enroute to Roberts Bank Superport: GE AC4400CW 9500 series-SD40-2 ??-SD40-2 ??-New GE AC4400CW's 9600 series-9600 series-9600 series. Went South a few miles to Matsqui Jct. to the other railway. Maple Meadows, B.C. March 21, 1998 1350-Westbound "Canpotex" Potash-unit train-GE AC4400CW's 9602-9657-9655 1502-Eastbound Empty-grain unit train: GE AC4400CW's 9648-9523-9638 March 22, 1998 Port Coquitlam, B.C. 0830-Train #401 from Toronto-Intermodal runthrough to CPR's Mayfair Intermodal terminal on Southwest line(Westminster Sub: Power-SD40-2-SD40-2-SD40-2-SD40-2 6407 Remarks: Unit 6407 dual flag-lettered CP Rail System-Candy Red. Relettered from Soo. 0830-Grain unit train arriving from East-GE AC4400CW 9550-SD40-2 5865-GE AC4400CW 9549 Remarks: Unit 9549 with RCMP Musical Ride logo. March 23, 1998 Same Location: 1030-Westend yard engines-GP-9's 1582, 1613 Transfer power: GP-38's 3002-E&N Railfreight 3004-3008 Remarks: Unit 1582 in Candy Apple Red-working Remote, unit 1613 still in Action Red. E&N Railreight unit 3004 in green and yellow. March 28, 1998 Same Location: 1000-Transfer to Southwest line(Westminster Sub-enroute New Westminster: GP-35's 5017-5010-5011 a long transfer of Auto-racks several railroads, to re-load Imports. March 27, 1998(left out in error) Same Location: 1055-Intermodal train #401 from Toronto-runthrough on Southwest Line(Westminster Sub) to CP's Mayfair Intermodal Terminal: Power-SD40-2F 9004-SD40-2 5520. Remarks: Unit 5520 in Canday Apple Red scheme-Dual-flag logo 1100-Double-stack train arriving from East-SD40-2 6059-SD40-2 5744 Remarks: UNit 6059 in Candy Apple Red scheme-dual flag logo-no lettered "CP" on unit's nose. Mission, B.C. March 29, 1998 0830-Eastbound empty potash train out of Port Coquitlam; cut over to CP Line going south to Matsqui and rerouted over the other railway-Three new GE AC4400CW's of 9600 series. 0830-Westbound "Canpotex" potash-unt train-GE AC4400CW,s 9579-9614-9536 0930-Westbound grain-unit train: GE AC4400CW's 9545-9600 series-9500 series. 1050-Westbound grain-unit train GE AC4400CW's 9556-9580-9560 March 30, 1998 Port Coquitlam, B.C. 1030-Main-line power dead-head to diesel shop came off southwest line(Westminster Sub) from Sapperton- was earlier runthrough from East: Power SD40-2's 5866-6073-GATX 7378 Remarks-units 5877 and 6073 Canday Apple Red scheme-dual-flag logo. GATX 7378 leased in blue and yellow. To Be Continued At a Later Date. Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C. |
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Re: Putting a sock in it
Thunderhawk
The wind socks are there so if there is an emergency, (IE: A tank of annhydrous
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ammonia is punctured), you know which way to run. Todd Jones Canuck Pacific Railway St. Paul, MN/La Crosse, WI Paul Cordingley wrote: From: "Paul Cordingley" <crs1026@...> |
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Putting a sock in it
Paul Cordingley
Took a quick round trip this week to Ottawa on VIA....and noticed that at
both Belleville (CN) and Smiths Falls (CP), there was a well-maintained wind sock on a tower on the property.. Does anyone know why the rails would maintain a wind sock? Are there any railroad employees out there who can tell us why this is of use to them? I would've thought the wind factor was rather obvious to anyone on the ground? Other trivia....seems the CP dynamometer car is still at Smiths Falls Cheers Paul |
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Re: Day on the C-P-R
Paul Cordingley
From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>
Subject: Sat. May 13th 2000 - 1st Annual "Day on the C-P-R" I'd like to adapt that event to our group, and have selected Saturday, MayAnyone interested in making this a "24 hours at Galt" event....maybe we can plan some communal flash photograpy???? Cheers Paul |
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Re: 3005
Joe Smuin
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Keep the faith, I have a man seeking answers. Joe Smuin morgants@... wrote:
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Lake Erie & Northern Station
Chris Jajko
Hello,
Can anyone tell me where the Lake Erie & Northern station was located in Waterford Ontario? Was it shared with the Canada Southern? This past november I travelled there to photograph the remains of the railways located there (CASO, LE&N, TH&B) and I couldnt find the station. Thanks Chris |
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Fw: Secret CPR "Chinese" trains
Doug Rhodes
Hello all
A couple of weeks ago I asked the list about a dinner time story I had heard about massive movements of Chinese workers in secret trains during World War 1 (see note below). Although there were no responses on the list, those I spoke with privately were doubtful, as was I. How could such a massive operation with so many "juicy" details have occurred without a lot of talk amongst railroaders and railfans over the years? Well, I don't know the answer to the latter question, but I've no doubt now that the secret Chinese trains existed. I found an article in "The Beaver" magazine about these trains: Secret trains across Canada 1917-1918. Elizabeth A. Tancock. il. Vol. 71, No. 5, (O-N '91): p39-43 The article is based on the author's research at National Defense, the National Archives and conversation with at least one surviving participant in the operation. There's enough detail (including even which military personnel used which berths in the tourist car at the end of each train!) to verify the movements really occurred, right down to names of the ships used, coded telegrams about arrivals, generic train consists, names of commanding officers etc. There are also some photos. The only photo in which one of the trains is visible is too small to get the locomotive number, but it appears to be a heavy 4-6-2 with Elesco feedwater heater and long haul (6 wheel) tender. I don't know my steam engines well enough to ID the class from this photo. Based on the vast scale of the operation there must be significant amounts of information in the CPR archives on the train movements, support logistics etc, but I would not know where to begin to find out more. I do know that the military records were declassified in the mid-1980's, so the records should no longer be "secret" - just hard to get to. More info may be found in the cited article, or I can provide more if anyone is interested. Doug Victoria, BC ---------- From: Doug Rhodes <drhodes@...>could! Manchuria to the Western front in France to relieve "our boys" of grunt worklike digging trenches and hauling ammunition. They were brought over in CPsteamers to Vancouver, where they boarded sealed trains of colonist cars, twoin reverse, with a fine to the CPR of $1000 per head for any Chinese |
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Toronto Model RR show this weekend
Mike Salfi
Although this message has nothing to do with the CPR or the CNR, I would
like to invite any and all to come by and say hello if you are at the Toronto Model RR show this weekend (tomorrow and Sunday). I will be at the Athabasca Scale Models table, and while this message has nothing to do with the CPR or the CNR, rest assured that Athabasca Scale Models produces many products that are representations of equipment seen on both the CPR and CNR. This is not a commercial message as I will not be selling any products, nor do I work for ASM, I am just helping out a person that has become a friend through a shared interest in modeling both the CPR and CNR. Michael Salfi Kitchener, Ontario email: msalfi@... We are the navvies who work upon the railway, Swinging our hammers in the bright glazing sun, Laying down track and building the bridges, Bending our backs till the railroad is done. From "The Canadian Railroad Trilogy", by Gordon Lightfoot |
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CP decals
Grant Garber
Hello Gang
I am looking for decals for SD90MAC's. Does Microscale have decals for the 90MAC's yet. Any help would be appericated. I am thinking of doing a SD90MAC for CP (when the income tax cheque comes back). Also I would like to do a AC4400CW for CP with the new truck design (radial steer). Does Details West make the sideframes yet for the AC's. Thanks In Advance Grant Garber Mile 12 Huron Central Railway ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at |
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Waterford Ontario
Does anyone know where the Lake Erie & Northern railway station
was located in Waterford Ontario? Thanks a lot, I would appreciate it very much, as this past November I was in Waterford photographing the railway remains (TH&B, LE&N, CASO) and I couldn't figure out where the station was located. |
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Re: 3005
In a message dated 03/16/2000 8:31:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kvrailway@... writes: << Also saw the 3005 sitting there in her nice, two-tone green paint. They left the bell a canary yellow, which to my eye, is a real nice touch. >> Cana nyone tell me what is on the back end of this unit? Does it have the CP on the back or the number in white on the green paint? Finally are the rear number boards still functional or are they painted out? Thanks. Tom. Tom & Sheri Morgan Scranton PA D&H, CP, CAR, MILW,StL&H, SOO The Beaver covers 2 nations |
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CP Could Be Expanding More On The International Scene
Donald Scott
Re my Messages B#81 and B#82 of March 16.
Correction: It was brought to my attention by Rainer Auer that CP could be interested in SCI and another company Concor. Concor is correct. SCI is not Seacontainers International, but SCI symbol stands for "Shipping Corportation of India". SCI and Concor both are companies the Indian government is trying to reduce its holdings in. The Indian government owns 80% of SCI, and wants to sell at least 40% of it. The Indian government owns 77% of Concor. CP Ship's owned Contship Containerlines could be taking and equity stake in both the state-owned shipping companies. In B#82 I stated that BNSF is being fined $10 million for false statements, this has nothing to do on rail-mergers but between a family and a BNSF wreck. I won't go into detail. This clears up some inacurate information on my two late evening Posts of last night. Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C. |
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The New MILE 262 Site
Thomas Sajnovic
Hello all,
Just here to inform all of you that i have completed the makeover of MILE 262 after two months of work and redesigning. Hope you all can stop by for a visit and have a look around. There's alot to see and do! Comments are always welcome. Enjoy! Thomas Sajnovic MILE 262 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at |
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Pertaining To Rail Mergers -#B-81
Donald Scott
Pertaining to Rail-Mergers:
In the news today March 16, BNSF was fined $10 Million U.S. for supplying the Surface Transportation Board during hearings last week in Washington, D.C. BNSF gave the STB "False Information"-presume this applies to the talked about BNSF/CN deal. Likely CN will also be fined by the STB giving false information. Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C. "Chasing Trains-Since-1936." |
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Canadian Pacific International Expansion Could Be Coming-B#80
Donald Scott
Canadian Pacific Could Be Buying Or Having Interests In British SCI(Sea
Containers International) and A Stake In India's Concor. Heard today March 16, CP could be taking up a stake or takover of British(Bermuda based) Sea Containers Ltd., a diversified passenger transport company, coastal ferries in UK, Scotland, Ireland, from Uk-France, Scandinavian luxury ferries built like cruise ships, plying the waters between Norway-Sweden-Finland-Denmark-Germany-Estonia. Sea Containers Ltd. operates port facilities in Britain. In the railway passenger business it owns Great Western Eastern which operates 115 passenger trains on a normal working day including service to Scotland, and plans adding more trains to its rail-passenger business. Sea Containers- owns the "Silja Line" which plies routes on the Baltic. The company operates the World's largest fast ferry fleet, 16 craft, plus 11 coventional ferries on 23 routes from 11 countries. Sea Containers Ltd. manages the" Great South Pacific Express" tourist train in Australia between Brisbane-Cairns. Sea Containers owns "Orient Express Hotels" who actually manages the above train. The hotel subsidiary operates 35 hotels-Four in the South Pacific, five in South Africa, two in Southeast Asia, four in South America, six in North America, eleven in Europe, three in the United Kingdom. Concor: From what I understand India based(New Delhi based) "Container Corporation of India" provides rail-container movements from major Indian ports to and from inland terminals on Indian Railways. Other CP News: New SD90-h 6,000 hp was observed at Port CoquitlamB.C. diesel shop whcich had arrived from Revelstoke, B.C. approx. 0700. And was due to go back east later today on train #402 Former CPR Modern Light 4-6-2 1293: News today say's ex CP light modern G-5 Class 1293(built 1948) could be slated returning to Canada from tourist excursion railway Ohio Central. Locomotive 1293 is supposed to be slated for the new Pacific Wilderness Railway, a new Victoria, B.C. excursion railway that will commence operations this June from Victoria north to Malahat Pass and return oveer a two hour run. Three trains will operate the service nothbound and southbound per day. Trains are supposed to operate with 11 cars. Two of their GP-10 units were spotted at Port Coquitlam today units #705, #706. Heavy-weight passenger cars were supposed to be in the yard also-but hidden away. Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C. |
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Sat. May 13th 2000 - 1st Annual "Day on the C-P-R"
Bill Miller
Good evening folks:
As some of you are aware, for the last five years members of the CNet list have held an annual get together at Bayview Jct.,ON to watch trains, and more importantly, to put faces to the names they correspond with all the time. It is always an event to look forward to and enjoy. I'd like to adapt that event to our group, and have selected Saturday, May 13th, 2000 (being the closest date to the list's anniversary 5/16/99). At the suggestion of Paul Bloxham (founder of CNet meets), Galt,ON has been selected for this year's event. Located at MP57 on the Galt Subdivision, 20 or more trains pass daily, with many working at Galt. The CPR's Grand River job also runs Saturdays more often than not. To get to the Galt station, go south (about 5 miles) on Hwy.24 from the Hwy.401 exit until you go under the mainline and then make an immediate left. Ample parking is available and Horny Tim's is right up the street. In the evening, I envision beautiful westbound bridge shots from Riverbluffs Park on the west side of the Grand River, something like ". Hopefully the CPR will co-operate. To enable some participation from those out of reasonable range, I'd like to compile a OS report entailing what everyone sees (or is running) on this day. Hopefully we'll see one or more of our members go by. :) Bill |
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Re: 9300 on 402
Joe Smuin
I forgot to mention that I had a peek inside the cab. Has the standard
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three seat arrangement, but the control monitor screens have been changed somewhat. Looks like the displays have been improved. Sure were nice and colourful. Joe Jim Johnston wrote:
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9300 on 402
Jim Johnston
Hi Joe:
Glad to know somebody got a good look at that 9300. Thanks for the report on the sound of them. I'm anxious to hear it for myself. I'll watch for that 402 tomorrow. He's usually through here about 1600. Enjoyed the story of Rasmusson and the military Band....being in the band business myself! Cheers; Jim Johnston Salmon Arm BC |
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Re: PACIFIC WILDERNESS RAILWAY COMPANY LTD.
Joe Smuin
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I'm just back from a quick visit to the Coquitlam yard. The two GP10s are indeed there, looking to my eye more like circus train units. I understand the provincial railway inspector had a gleam in his eyes after going over them, so this ought to be interesting. The coaches were parked in the distance, I didn't get a close look at them. Next track over, 9300 was sitting in a long line up of units. A certain employee revved her up to see what she sounds like. Alas, the chant is gone! 9300 is just another rap artist, though a much quieter one than the usual. She rumbles and hicups just like a GE, though quieter, but sounds like a very ladylike Alco when cranked up. Lots of smoke too after she'd been sitting. She apparently is headed east tonight on 402 as a trailing unit, so you guys east of Revelbush ought to see her tomorrow. Also saw the 3005 sitting there in her nice, two-tone green paint. They left the bell a canary yellow, which to my eye, is a real nice touch. Joe Smuin cprdb wrote:
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steam cab and SGU in HO scale
Associated Model makers
Hello all;We have released to HO slcae steam generator car in HO scale. It is a one pice body with a small amount of add on parts, and features cast in NBW casting for better grab iron location.This is the undecorated run, and if anyone wants to see a picture of it e maill me off line. There will also be a run of ones painted for VIA and RTRR (yes that is ready to run resin) price undec $29.99 or better RTRR $34.99 approx. Via does run on CP tracks. We are also releasing the CPR light pacific all weather cab. It will be one piece and painted, ready to install $12.99 or better. At better hobby stores. C.Anthony |
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