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New book
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ALL: Has anyone received a copy of the new T41 book? The new version supposedly became available after April 4th and has a black T41 on the cover and Appendix C on Calibration has been expanded to a new chapter (#20). If so, please let me know, as I have ordered review copies for Al and myself twice now, and they have sent the old pre-April 4th version. Thanks! Jack, W8TEE -- Jack, W8TEE
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[SoftwareControlledHamRadio] The T41 from 4SQRP and V11 boards.
Hi Harry, Thanks for the note. I just checked my records and I sold a total of 218 full sets of V10/V11 boards (plus odds and ends of full sets). But that was two plus years ago. I may still have sets of V10/V11 bare boards in the recycle box… I’ll dig around to see if I can find some for you because the demand for the V10/V11 sets has dried up as of the V12 release. In any case, the GERBERS for the V10 and V11 boards are all available at no cost on my GITHUB. The 4SQRP boards (+GERBERS) are not available to me so I can’t support them as of now. Beyond that, I’ve sold 1,200+ sets of V12, and 150+ in stock that I will sell at Hamvention in about a month. Last year I sold 200 sets at FDIM and HamVention alone in just 4 days, and I expect to do that and more this year, since I now have an inside booth (4111 for those who will attend). I will take paper orders if I run out (I expect that will happen because I only have so much space in my luggage). I will also be selling the latest T41 book (signed copies) from Jack and Al at Hamvention in my booth (NOT at FDIM where Jack and Al will be selling the book). I won’t be able to support older versions of the T41 past free GERBERS and documentation. The cost of doing so is prohibitive. I have thousands of US dollars tied up in parts and boards… and can only support so much. I don’t know if Greg supplies boards for your V10/V11 projects or not… I don’t really follow what he does (and hence can’t/ don’t/ won’t comment on it). I do see some new directions on the horizon for the T41 after V12. The RF performance is outstanding… now to supercharge the user interfaces and the I/Q processing parts. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. email: bill@...
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Testing unit idea
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Testing filter boards would be very easy if we had a nice widget that had simple controller and an 12c socket ribbon cable plugged into to turn filter banks on and off. Would make tweaking toroids easier for me if rig was not needed. I use SA or signal generator. Maybe build on bread board ? Build a few and loan them out as needed. Just a thought, unfortunately I am not much on designing nor programming. Tim W4YN
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Attenuator problem
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V12.6 RF board. 'Menu/RF Set/RF in Atten' works fine, I get the appropriate 3.3v at pins 21 - 26 as adjustments are made. But 'RF Out Atten' doesn't work the same. I don't see any voltage on pins 1 - 6 as adjustments are made. What am I missing?
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Latest FW PTT not working
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ALL was fine until I tried SSB TX. PTT will not go into TX, CW keys up just fine. I went directly to 1/8 input socket and tried grounding PTT there and still no luck. Tim W4YN
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T41-EP V12 Board Connections and Development of the VHF-UHF Board
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Dr. Bill and Oliver, Al and Jack could not have found a more capable pair to take the T41-EP project over the horizion into what we will find in the infinite Experimentation Beyond. I have searched but have not found a board interconnection diagram that shows how the VHF/UHF board is proposed to connect. It seems like I have run across that but I need some guidance to find it. ..jpw J P Watters KC9KKO Morris, IL USA
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introduction
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Hi everyone. Just getting started with this amazing group and I wanted to write a quick note of introduction. I have long been a kit builder and tinkerer with electronics. My first real success was a Wilderness Sierra that I built back in 1996. I've been hooked ever since. For the past year or so I have been running a Hermes Lite with Thetis and have been totally amazed by what it can do. I have absolutely no formal electronics knowledge and have always just figured stuff out at my own pace. I am really looking forward to building the T41 modules, learning about SDTs and getting to know the folks in this community. I live in Colorado Springs, Colorado. If there is anyone near me that is a part of this group and would be interested in gathering for a meet up to talk shop and compare notes, let me know by emailing me directly, off the forum. Thanks to everyone who makes this amazing learning opportunity and community possible. 73 David Dill W0NP dsdill@...
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U8 test
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Hello all, My T41 has been oscillating on bands higher than 20M. I think others have traced a similar problem to U8, the first analog switch in the receive path on the K9HZ LPF control card. I just looked at the card - U8 is going to be a challenging chip to replace, and it would be nice to test things first, and not replace it if it doesn't need it. Can anybody supply details of such a test? I have a decent SA with tracking generator. - Jerry, KF6VB
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[SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 V12 software development path forward
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All: I agree with everything Oliver has stated here. I should have done a better job of structuring the code from the outset, but at the start, it was just Al and I working on the T41, and we were anxious to see if we could just get it to work. Over time, the T41 Project morphed into a much bigger project than we ever envisioned to the point where we have 3200+ people following its development. The early design mistakes I made are coming home to "byte" me in the butt. The display is a nettlesome issue and it's puzzling to me that some people have issues and others don't. The good news is that Oliver is masterful at both the hardware and software points. Anyway, Oliver's restructuring idea is a good one. If this is something you haven't wrangled with before, just search "hardware abstraction layer" (HAL) to read about it. Both Al and I still plan to be active in the Project, albeit less than in the past. (Last night, for the first time since Field Day last year, I spent over an hour actually playing radio...I still enjoy it after 70 years of operating and plan to be more active now!) We also have some small projects we'd like to mess around with. We hope everyone will continue to support the T41 Project going forward. Jack, W8TEE On Sunday, April 13, 2025 at 08:12:17 AM EDT, Oliver KI3P via groups.io <oliver@...> wrote: As Jack mentioned in a recent post, I've accepted the weighty responsibility for maintaining the code for the T21 V12 radio. I've learned so much by participating in the T41 project, I'm happy to help keep this project going so others can get as much enjoyment and knowledge as I have. Here's how we're going to manage the code. Jack and Al have written a fourth and final edition of their book describing the T41 theory and operation of the T41 radio. We will maintain Version 66-9 of the code on GitHub in a state that reflects the book so that anyone buying the book in the future can download code that corresponds to the structure and features described in the book. We'll fix bugs, but not add any new features to this code. It will live here: https://github.com/KI3P/SDTVer066-9 New features and changes to the code will be hosted in a new repository on GitHub: https://github.com/KI3P/T41-V12-SDT At the moment these two repositories are identical (other than a change in the name of the sketch). Expect them to diverge over time. So what comes next? A lot of discussion in this forum over the last few years has centered around the display and the need to restructure or reformat the code to make it easier to change this code. Similarly, the changes to the hardware between V11 and V12 necessitated making many changes sprinkled through the code base. Updating the code to accommodate changing hardware becomes very challenging. Both of these issues are derived the same root cause: the software is not structured in a way that abstracts the hardware implementation. Before leaping into any major feature upgrades, I think that restructuring the code to make it more modular and hardware-portable would be a good idea. So I'm thinking a lot about how the software works and what a different architecture might look like. -- Jack, W8TEE
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Latest FW Update
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Some how when I use the audio hat extension board it causes issues, If I plug audio hat direct into main board no boot issues. I ohmed out the traces on on extension board and all seem fine, so not sure but I can go on with calibration and working on optimizing rf cable lengths and ends. Odd thing is I never had issue with previous builds, I tried previous build and got same result so I suspected hardware. Good thing is I have plenty of room for audio hat extension is not needed. Tim W4YN
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[SoftwareControlledHamRadio] T41 Hardware Directions
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All: Obviously I agree since I suggested to Al that Bill take the hardware over, to which he was in total agreement. Same for Oliver on the software track: both were done in consultation. In the future, I, too, would like to remove the Audio Hat and move it to the Main board. I would like to see the ADC/DAC's mounted over a small hole in the PCB, since mounting those has been troublesome in the past. Placing the SPI driver on the board makes sense. I don't know enough about the LT3045's to judge, but while they are relatively expensive (~$9), a quantity 10 purchase, however, drops the price by almost 25%, so some kind of sharing might be possible. The ones I saw are rated at 500mA, so I'm guessing more than one is needed but I don't know. I think most of us would plunk down an extra $20 if it results in a more quiet rig. I have mentioned to Bill and Oliver that I would like to see a small PCB hold the 4 connectors (mic, PTT, headphones, and key) just because the current direct wiring makes the front look like a rat's nest. It's purely aesthetics for me and something most people will never see. On the software side, I would love to take the time to cut down the globals in the code. It will make some things a little slower (noticeable??), but it would address Greg's complaint about the limited stack/heap space. My guess is that it would also make debugging easier, too. It would be super cool if the Arduino people noticed that the newer processors now have some serious code space with significantly faster clocks and that might permit a mini OS kernel that would support a symbolic debugger. Alas, that's probably not going to happen until the Arduino family get a significant boost in memory. Anyway, I think Bill and Oliver will take the T41 Project to even higher performance levels than it enjoys now. And a big thanks to all the members of these groups who have helped along the way! Jack, W8TEE On Sunday, April 13, 2025 at 12:18:50 PM EDT, K9HZ <bill@...> wrote: Like Oliver on the Software side, I have graciously been handed the hardware side of the T41 development moving forward. (Just my take with this next statement) The software side is easier to experiment with… basically because its easier to “roll it back” if the experiment fails. To that end it requires more discussion and engineering calculation on the hardware side to make measurable steps forward. I do have a stable of engineers that work for me… but they are not here to work on the T41 project (unless they do it off-hours). To that end, I will start permanent “hashtag” sub-groups in the AmateurRadioBuilders when there is a growing interest in any aspect of the T41 hardware to address and discuss. There will be some changes to the building process tools I want to announce today. I will begin to stock solder masks shortly… something I have not done in the past. I originally considered stocking solder masks and “renting them out” for reuse. But after understanding that the SHIPPING for return would cost about the same as purchasing a mask outright… I will simply sell them outright. Then you can share them on a local/ club level. I’ve shipped about 50 of the display driver hardware devices. I have about 150 more in stock and then I will restock. Eventually, this hardware can be moved to the main board if there is an update. Remember, there is a difference between the T41 hardware and my K9HZ, and the K9HZ/KI3P hardware projects that we may or may not allow group think due to the fact that there may be external requirements that you are not aware of (e.g. the 100W PA module, the VHF/UHF Module, ETC.). Here are a few hardware things I am thinking about for the existing T41 boards. If we update the main board to a 12.7 at some point, I think we should consider placing the hardware from the audio hat directly on the main board. I would also put the SPI display driver on the board… a pair of ultra-low noise references for the A/D and D/A as needed, and possibly update the linear regulators with ultra noise LT3045 (etc.) devices. Maybe splitting the A/Ds and D/As to a separ
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T41 Hardware Directions
Like Oliver on the Software side, I have graciously been handed the hardware side of the T41 development moving forward. (Just my take with this next statement) The software side is easier to experiment with… basically because its easier to “roll it back” if the experiment fails. To that end it requires more discussion and engineering calculation on the hardware side to make measurable steps forward. I do have a stable of engineers that work for me… but they are not here to work on the T41 project (unless they do it off-hours). To that end, I will start permanent “hashtag” sub-groups in the AmateurRadioBuilders when there is a growing interest in any aspect of the T41 hardware to address and discuss. There will be some changes to the building process tools I want to announce today. I will begin to stock solder masks shortly… something I have not done in the past. I originally considered stocking solder masks and “renting them out” for reuse. But after understanding that the SHIPPING for return would cost about the same as purchasing a mask outright… I will simply sell them outright. Then you can share them on a local/ club level. I’ve shipped about 50 of the display driver hardware devices. I have about 150 more in stock and then I will restock. Eventually, this hardware can be moved to the main board if there is an update. Remember, there is a difference between the T41 hardware and my K9HZ, and the K9HZ/KI3P hardware projects that we may or may not allow group think due to the fact that there may be external requirements that you are not aware of (e.g. the 100W PA module, the VHF/UHF Module, ETC.). Here are a few hardware things I am thinking about for the existing T41 boards. If we update the main board to a 12.7 at some point, I think we should consider placing the hardware from the audio hat directly on the main board. I would also put the SPI display driver on the board… a pair of ultra-low noise references for the A/D and D/A as needed, and possibly update the linear regulators with ultra noise LT3045 (etc.) devices. Maybe splitting the A/Ds and D/As to a separate card… off the Main board may facilitate more experimentation at that level too… making it easier to change. All of these are small changes… but if you are an experimenter, it might be up your alley. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. email: bill@...
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Boards and kits in the UK/EU
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For those of you in the UK/EU… Andy Rutter, G8HCK, has graciously agreed to distribute T41/ K9HZ/ K9HZ-KI3P boards and kits there. I’ll attempt to ship him a load of stuff and he will make arrangements to ship to you. In the short term, you should give him your order and at a time in the near future… he can forward the combined order for me to ship to him. You can contact him at: arutter@... Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. email: bill@...
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FYI...
I do have part of my new system for invoicing for boards and kits up and running. Invoices for will come to you from Paypal and have the email address sales@.... Please don’t ignore them! After 5 days I will cancel them and you go to the back of the line again. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. email: bill@...
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Cheap isolation transformers
I ran across something that I need to share. I bought a two-pack of audio transformers on Amazon that work very well for the cost. Works great to break ground-loop issues, hum, etc. Cheap too… and a WHOLE LOT cheaper than the ElectroVoice transformers I usually buy at $225 each with my RE20’s! Tried it on my T41 and it does clean up the mic. Not perfect but cheap. Amazon.com: 2 Packs Ground Loop Noise Isolator for Car Audio/Home Stereo System, Ground Loop Isolator with 3.5mm Audio Cable : Electronics I have an audio board on the drawing board and it includes cheap open frame (full audio range audio) isolation transformers Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ Owner - Operator Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC Staunton, Illinois Owner – Operator Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I. Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com Moderator: North American QRO Group at Groups.IO. Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO. email: bill@...
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The T41 from 4SQRP and V11 boards.
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All: Recent there was a negative post about the V11 boards and the T41 from 4SQRP. I got this private email from Neville Marr, ZL2BNE, who has been following the T41 from its inception. He has a T41 from 4SQRP and speaks positively about it. I asked him if I could re-post his email because I know there are a lot of 4SQRP radios out there and he wants everyone to know that it is a good radio that he uses on a regular basis. I, too, have a 4SQRP T41 and it is a very good radio. He gave me his okay to post his email. Jack, W8TEE =============== Hi Jack, We haven’t communicated in quite some time but I continue to check-in on the softwarecontrolledhamradio group from time to time. I’ve recently reviewed postings and one took my attention … for the wrong reasons. /g/SoftwareControlledHamRadio/message/33358 The post was pretty disparaging of the V11 receiver performance, among other things calling it an intolerable toy radio. I see no point in giving such posts oxygen on the forum but I felt a need to let you know my experience is totally different. You will recall I was an early adopter of the T41 project, I had V10 boards made and did my own thing. You will also recall I was quite critical of some aspects of the project. I always had issues with the transmit side of my V10 T41 but never the receive side. The receiver worked from day one. In my case I don’t hear any noise on rx with a dummy load connected. I can easily hear my Marconi sig gen set as low as it will go at -127dBm. It’s a very good receiver. Over time I made a number of hardware changes to my QSE, I built two filters of my own design, one follows the QSE the other follows the PA. Final transmit change is adopting the K9HZ PA. Today my radio works faultlessly using Greg’s T41EEE. I got everything where I wanted and started logging contacts in August 2023. I’m not much of an operator but do put my creations on the air. I’ve just interrogated my log to discover I’ve logged exactly 100 contacts using my T41. Quite a cool number. I’ve had the T41 on the air more times than that, mainly local nets, but all the same 100 in the log. Below is a breakdown of the 100. I’ve worked every continent except Africia (Africia is notoriously difficult to work from NZ, South Africia is the rarest DX from NZ). So thank you for getting the T41 up and running. I am a little sad that V10/11 got supplanted by V12 because V10/11 is a very good radio. I do hope people can get V12 to a place where V12 T41 are on the air too. My T41 is my go-to radio, my daily runner. Cheers, Neville ZL2BNE -- Jack, W8TEE
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Stencil with 3D printer
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I just tried making stencil with my 3D printer and it worked perfectly. I can now in one time reflow soldering all SMT components using my hot plate.
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compile error V66-9
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Hi all, Downloaded V66-9 today but get this error in line 695 of sdt.h Running IDE 1.8.19 I'm a noob at arduino so appreciate assistance here please. glenn
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