Just sent a message to it.? Does your instance of 32 have an rf port enabled and in range of an igate or is your internet side enabled for messaging?
KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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From: "Glen Briggs via groups.io" <kb0rpj.glen@...>
Date: 1/4/25 22:16 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] group message
it works correctly under aprsdroid on my phone
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it works correctly under aprsdroid on my phone
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i joined via ANSRVR several people are on RF and ANSRVR
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Is this an ANSRVR group or a radio group message??
KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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From: "Glen Briggs via groups.io" <kb0rpj.glen@...>
Date: 1/4/25 22:08 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] group message
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Is there anyone else active in the group?
On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 09:40:38 PM EST, Glen Briggs via groups.io <kb0rpj.glen@...> wrote:
I am able to join a group "LIVCO" however, i am not getting any messages from the group, and when i send a message to the group it sticks on pending
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I am able to join a group "LIVCO" however, i am not getting any messages from the group, and when i send a message to the group it sticks on pending
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Re: updating the software, it was painless thanks.
What "built" should I have?
I am showing, 2020/05/01? 21:21.? I have been off APRS for a while.?
Keith
if anyone is still getting the prompt message about looking into the new version to upgrade the program, it was painless and worked great....
kind regards, Brad Ko6kL
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updating the software, it was painless thanks.
if anyone is still getting the prompt message about looking into the new version to upgrade the program, it was painless and worked great....
kind regards, Brad Ko6kL
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 09:01 PM, Greg D wrote:
If anyone else is looking for the other pbeacon settings, it's on PDF Page 87 (printed page 80 ) here:
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That is from 2016.? There were 4 software releases since then.
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Use this location: ?
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The original APRS protocol specification, affectionately known as APRS101.pdf,? said "dB" for gain.?
WB4APR wrote about many corrections, clarifications, and new features since that time.
Clarifying that antenna gain is in "dBi" is among those notes.
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You can find a compilation of the original document with decades of updates merged in here:?
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PHG is discussed in detail in chapter 7 of APRS12c.pdf.? Your feedback is welcome if anything is not clear.
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73,
John WB2OSZ
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 09:01 PM, Greg D wrote:
If anyone else is looking for the other pbeacon settings, it's on PDF Page 87 (printed page 80 ) here:
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That is from 2016.? There were 4 software releases since then.
?
Use this location: ?
?
The original APRS protocol specification, affectionately known as APRS101.pdf,? said "dB" for gain.?
WB4APR wrote about many corrections, clarifications, and new features since that time.
Clarifying that antenna gain is in "dBi" is among those notes.
?
You can find a compilation of the original document with decades of updates merged in here:?
.
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PHG is discussed in detail in chapter 7 of APRS12c.pdf.? Your feedback is welcome if anything is not clear.
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73,
John WB2OSZ
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Thanks James.
I certainly want to convey accurate?information and not "brag" about the digi.? I don't think it's brag worthy as we dont have access to a real nice, high location.? Our area is also far from flat.
However, this will be a new digi at a new location and actual coverage is unknown at this point in time.? So for now, I want to TX accurate data that I do have.? Once we establish the actual coverage, then we can tweak the PHG info.
At least that's the plan......
73, Tim KB2MFS?
Since APRS is designed to provide information to the other operators in the area in an attempt to help everyone understand the capabilities of the local APRS network, stop and think about what information you want to convey.?
While you might want to tell everyone that you are using 21.3 watts into an omnidirectional 7.8 dBi gain antenna with a HAAT 78 feet, it might be better to use a PHG setting that shows a coverage approximation that more realistically shows the area your station can hear/be heard.?
For example, you might want to set your direction offset to show that the hill behind your house blocks coverage in that direction, even though you are using an omni antenna.?
Having a PHG coverage plot that is closer to showing real world coverage versus manufacturer’s specifications is better for all.
It allows those viewing the APRS map to be able to understand how the local network can communicate.?
With real world PHG plots, one might be able to find an approximation of a jammer’s location based on who can hear the station.?
Accurate information in this instance can have two different configurations.?
Think about whether you are trying to brag about your station, or provide helpful information to others in the area.?
You beat me to it....? Yes, dBi.
If anyone else is looking for the other pbeacon settings, it's on
PDF Page 87 (printed page 80 ) here:
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Greg? KO6TH
Tim and Janet via wrote:
Well looks like I finally found my answer after digging for
quite?some time.? The antenna gain is specified by using dBi.?
Not sure why the reference of dB is used......
Back to monitoring.
73,
Tim KB2MFS
Greg,
I am looking to get the PHG circle correct on the
maps.? I am setting up a Digi using direwolf.? In that
configuration the example given does not simply use a code
as is suggested by Bob at the link you provided.? So, I am
not sure how to specify the syntax on the PBeacon line.? A
syntax example is:??PBEACON delay=11 every=4
overlay=S symbol="digi" lat=42^08.85N long=071^13.61W
power=1 height=20 gain=1 comment="East Walpole MA"
For this example I assume
the code would be 1110. But how do you express that
correctly for direwolf?
Even looking at the chart provided, the question of
antenna gain is still there.? In my case, my power is 25
watts, antenna HAAT is 40' (ish), and antenna gain is 6.5
Dbi and omnidirectional.? ? The chart lists antenna gain
as dB not Dbi or Dbd.? So in my case, the code could be
5260 or 5240 depending on whether this is based on Dbi or
Dbd.??
What am I?missing?? Seems no matter what, the chart
should specify gain as dBi or dBd NOT dB.
There is probably a dedicated direwolf group out there,
but since I was a member here, I thought I would solicit a
response here first.
Thanks.
Actually, it's neither.?
Consistent with Bob WB4APR's focus on making things
compact and simple, it's a code that approximates the
effective range of a station.?
See:?
Greg? KO6TH
Tim and Janet via
wrote:
Good afternoon.
I was setting up a digi based on a RPI? and
was curious what the standard is for
specifying?the antenna gain as part of the PHG.?
Is it Dbi or Dbd???
Thanks and 73,
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Since APRS is designed to provide information to the other operators in the area in an attempt to help everyone understand the capabilities of the local APRS network, stop and think about what information you want to convey.?
While you might want to tell everyone that you are using 21.3 watts into an omnidirectional 7.8 dBi gain antenna with a HAAT 78 feet, it might be better to use a PHG setting that shows a coverage approximation that more realistically shows the area your station can hear/be heard.?
For example, you might want to set your direction offset to show that the hill behind your house blocks coverage in that direction, even though you are using an omni antenna.?
Having a PHG coverage plot that is closer to showing real world coverage versus manufacturer’s specifications is better for all.
It allows those viewing the APRS map to be able to understand how the local network can communicate.?
With real world PHG plots, one might be able to find an approximation of a jammer’s location based on who can hear the station.?
Accurate information in this instance can have two different configurations.?
Think about whether you are trying to brag about your station, or provide helpful information to others in the area.?
You beat me to it....? Yes, dBi.
If anyone else is looking for the other pbeacon settings, it's on
PDF Page 87 (printed page 80 ) here:
?
Greg? KO6TH
Tim and Janet via wrote:
Well looks like I finally found my answer after digging for
quite?some time.? The antenna gain is specified by using dBi.?
Not sure why the reference of dB is used......
Back to monitoring.
73,
Tim KB2MFS
Greg,
I am looking to get the PHG circle correct on the
maps.? I am setting up a Digi using direwolf.? In that
configuration the example given does not simply use a code
as is suggested by Bob at the link you provided.? So, I am
not sure how to specify the syntax on the PBeacon line.? A
syntax example is:??PBEACON delay=11 every=4
overlay=S symbol="digi" lat=42^08.85N long=071^13.61W
power=1 height=20 gain=1 comment="East Walpole MA"
For this example I assume
the code would be 1110. But how do you express that
correctly for direwolf?
Even looking at the chart provided, the question of
antenna gain is still there.? In my case, my power is 25
watts, antenna HAAT is 40' (ish), and antenna gain is 6.5
Dbi and omnidirectional.? ? The chart lists antenna gain
as dB not Dbi or Dbd.? So in my case, the code could be
5260 or 5240 depending on whether this is based on Dbi or
Dbd.??
What am I?missing?? Seems no matter what, the chart
should specify gain as dBi or dBd NOT dB.
There is probably a dedicated direwolf group out there,
but since I was a member here, I thought I would solicit a
response here first.
Thanks.
Actually, it's neither.?
Consistent with Bob WB4APR's focus on making things
compact and simple, it's a code that approximates the
effective range of a station.?
See:?
Greg? KO6TH
Tim and Janet via
wrote:
Good afternoon.
I was setting up a digi based on a RPI? and
was curious what the standard is for
specifying?the antenna gain as part of the PHG.?
Is it Dbi or Dbd???
Thanks and 73,
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You beat me to it....? Yes, dBi.
If anyone else is looking for the other pbeacon settings, it's on
PDF Page 87 (printed page 80 ) here:
?
Greg? KO6TH
Tim and Janet via groups.io wrote:
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Well looks like I finally found my answer after digging for
quite?some time.? The antenna gain is specified by using dBi.?
Not sure why the reference of dB is used......
Back to monitoring.
73,
Tim KB2MFS
Greg,
I am looking to get the PHG circle correct on the
maps.? I am setting up a Digi using direwolf.? In that
configuration the example given does not simply use a code
as is suggested by Bob at the link you provided.? So, I am
not sure how to specify the syntax on the PBeacon line.? A
syntax example is:??PBEACON delay=11 every=4
overlay=S symbol="digi" lat=42^08.85N long=071^13.61W
power=1 height=20 gain=1 comment="East Walpole MA"
For this example I assume
the code would be 1110. But how do you express that
correctly for direwolf?
Even looking at the chart provided, the question of
antenna gain is still there.? In my case, my power is 25
watts, antenna HAAT is 40' (ish), and antenna gain is 6.5
Dbi and omnidirectional.? ? The chart lists antenna gain
as dB not Dbi or Dbd.? So in my case, the code could be
5260 or 5240 depending on whether this is based on Dbi or
Dbd.??
What am I?missing?? Seems no matter what, the chart
should specify gain as dBi or dBd NOT dB.
There is probably a dedicated direwolf group out there,
but since I was a member here, I thought I would solicit a
response here first.
Thanks.
Actually, it's neither.?
Consistent with Bob WB4APR's focus on making things
compact and simple, it's a code that approximates the
effective range of a station.?
See:?
Greg? KO6TH
Tim and Janet via
wrote:
Good afternoon.
I was setting up a digi based on a RPI? and
was curious what the standard is for
specifying?the antenna gain as part of the PHG.?
Is it Dbi or Dbd???
Thanks and 73,
|
Well looks like I finally found my answer after digging for quite?some time.? The antenna gain is specified by using dBi.? Not sure why the reference of dB is used......
Back to monitoring.
73, Tim KB2MFS
Greg,
I am looking to get the PHG circle correct on the maps.? I am setting up a Digi using direwolf.? In that configuration the example given does not simply use a code as is suggested by Bob at the link you provided.? So, I am not sure how to specify the syntax on the PBeacon line.? A syntax example is:??PBEACON delay=11 every=4 overlay=S symbol="digi" lat=42^08.85N long=071^13.61W power=1 height=20 gain=1 comment="East Walpole MA"
For this example I assume the code would be 1110. But how do you express that correctly for direwolf?
Even looking at the chart provided, the question of antenna gain is still there.? In my case, my power is 25 watts, antenna HAAT is 40' (ish), and antenna gain is 6.5 Dbi and omnidirectional.? ? The chart lists antenna gain as dB not Dbi or Dbd.? So in my case, the code could be 5260 or 5240 depending on whether this is based on Dbi or Dbd.??
What am I?missing?? Seems no matter what, the chart should specify gain as dBi or dBd NOT dB.
There is probably a dedicated direwolf group out there, but since I was a member here, I thought I would solicit a response here first.
Thanks.
Actually, it's neither.? Consistent with Bob WB4APR's focus on
making things compact and simple, it's a code that approximates the
effective range of a station.?
See:?
Greg? KO6TH
Tim and Janet via wrote:
Good afternoon.
I was setting up a digi based on a RPI? and was curious
what the standard is for specifying?the antenna gain as part
of the PHG.? Is it Dbi or Dbd???
Thanks and 73,
|
Greg,
I am looking to get the PHG circle correct on the maps.? I am setting up a Digi using direwolf.? In that configuration the example given does not simply use a code as is suggested by Bob at the link you provided.? So, I am not sure how to specify the syntax on the PBeacon line.? A syntax example is:??PBEACON delay=11 every=4 overlay=S symbol="digi" lat=42^08.85N long=071^13.61W power=1 height=20 gain=1 comment="East Walpole MA"
For this example I assume the code would be 1110. But how do you express that correctly for direwolf?
Even looking at the chart provided, the question of antenna gain is still there.? In my case, my power is 25 watts, antenna HAAT is 40' (ish), and antenna gain is 6.5 Dbi and omnidirectional.? ? The chart lists antenna gain as dB not Dbi or Dbd.? So in my case, the code could be 5260 or 5240 depending on whether this is based on Dbi or Dbd.??
What am I?missing?? Seems no matter what, the chart should specify gain as dBi or dBd NOT dB.
There is probably a dedicated direwolf group out there, but since I was a member here, I thought I would solicit a response here first.
Thanks.
Actually, it's neither.? Consistent with Bob WB4APR's focus on
making things compact and simple, it's a code that approximates the
effective range of a station.?
See:?
Greg? KO6TH
Tim and Janet via wrote:
Good afternoon.
I was setting up a digi based on a RPI? and was curious
what the standard is for specifying?the antenna gain as part
of the PHG.? Is it Dbi or Dbd???
Thanks and 73,
|
Actually, it's neither.? Consistent with Bob WB4APR's focus on
making things compact and simple, it's a code that approximates the
effective range of a station.?
See:?
Greg? KO6TH
Tim and Janet via groups.io wrote:
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Good afternoon.
I was setting up a digi based on a RPI? and was curious
what the standard is for specifying?the antenna gain as part
of the PHG.? Is it Dbi or Dbd???
Thanks and 73,
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Good afternoon.
I was setting up a digi based on a RPI? and was curious what the standard is for specifying?the antenna gain as part of the PHG.? Is it Dbi or Dbd???
Thanks and 73,
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Re: best settings using HF VARA
Good morning Rob,
Welcome to HF APRS. On the 30M band we set our Beacons to every
45Min or 60Min. Also the WIDE Path is not used. I am shure others
that know more will chime in.
73, Denis
On 12/27/2024 7:14 PM, Robert Cartier
via groups.io wrote:
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I am trying to be good newbie so any help would be
appreciated.
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Is there a document that shows the proper configuration to
play nice with others
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I thought I set beaconing to every 10 min but find after that
it starts transmitting and continues for quite some time
beaconing my-call-->wide1-1->APWW11 . is there other
settings I need to address so as to not
tie up the frequency?
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Any help is appreciated?
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TIA
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Rob - KD1JG
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Re: best settings using HF VARA
I would apologise for not noticing the title of your email Using HF VARA, not really an excuse but I answered this email before my first cup of coffee in my morning!
73 de Steve Wilson KF6WAX, APRSISCE32, ADMIN/MODERATOR
I am trying to be good newbie so any help would be appreciated.
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Is there a document that shows the proper configuration to play nice with others
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I thought I set beaconing to every 10 min but find after that it starts transmitting and continues for quite some time
beaconing my-call-->wide1-1->APWW11 . is there other settings I need to address so as to not
tie up the frequency?
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Any help is appreciated?
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TIA
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Rob - KD1JG
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