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Re: Scroller settings, and IS to RF Gate Questions
Lynn Deffenbaugh
开云体育I've been seeing the same thing with ANSRVR HOTG notifications on both of my APRSIS32 instances AND my APRSISMO/TestHost instance on my Android phone.?? I'm considering merging all N:xxxxx messages into a single chat box, but I haven't worked out a way to support easily doing a direct reply to the source of one of those announcements. But yes, having a Clear / Clear xxxx Notifications would be a
good first step!? Unfortunately, dynamic menu options aren't the
easiest things in the world to implement in Win32.?? But the
"bother factor" is definitely getting to the point where I'll have
to implement something that's better than "Click - Escape - Rinse
and Repeat".?? And I really don't like the "close the client"
option that I do sometimes resort to. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/10/2023 3:21 PM, Greg Depew wrote:
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Re: Scroller settings, and IS to RF Gate Questions
开云体育Lynn, is there a way to make any messages from ANSRVR? have there own window or clear button? Even after clearing My messages, eavesdrops, and all other clearable messages, the ones from HOTG remain. Even a window where we could see the all
in one place would be great!
Thanks for the awesome software and the servers you provide!
KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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From: Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
Date: 3/10/23 11:13 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [APRSISCE] Scroller settings, and IS to RF Gate Questions
As the Thursday HOTG net has gained in popularity, we've uncovered some interesting things in the APRS world, including some broken IGate implementations. I think I'll be making an update to the ANSRVR to ignore redundant CQ messages and only process the first one.?? That way any messaging station that sends to a group, but doesn't receive back the ack, won't flood the current members with redundant messages for each of their retries.?? ANSRVR knows that it has already sent out that message, and will still ack the retry, but it won't send them out redundantly. Hopefully I'll get that done before next Thursday's net ramps up! Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/10/2023 8:47 AM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
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Re: Scroller settings, and IS to RF Gate Questions
What is the HOTG net, never heard of it? 73, Don W4GCW EL98pf Where am I? Click link below.
On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 11:13:41 AM EST, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:
As the Thursday HOTG net has gained in popularity, we've uncovered some interesting things in the APRS world, including some broken IGate implementations. I think I'll be making an update to the ANSRVR to ignore redundant CQ messages and only process the first one.?? That way any messaging station that sends to a group, but doesn't receive back the ack, won't flood the current members with redundant messages for each of their retries.?? ANSRVR knows that it has already sent out that message, and will still ack the retry, but it won't send them out redundantly. Hopefully I'll get that done before next Thursday's net ramps up! Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/10/2023 8:47 AM, Adam Mahnke
wrote:
Lynn,?
This all makes sense and yes this is all screen shots?from
the W2CXM instance.?
Here is the filter that is set up to gate from IS to RF
a/42.6295/-076.7045/42.2555/-076.23833 -b/KD2EAT/N2PYI-13/KC2DYR -s//a&/D? I did not have the "Log All" checked so there are no log
files. This has been changed, as has the scroller setting you
suggested.?
Sounds like everything is WAD and I just never happened to
notice it before.?
73's
Adam Mahnke
KC2ANT
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:51?PM
Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...>
wrote:
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Re: Scroller settings, and IS to RF Gate Questions
Lynn Deffenbaugh
开云体育As the Thursday HOTG net has gained in popularity, we've uncovered some interesting things in the APRS world, including some broken IGate implementations. I think I'll be making an update to the ANSRVR to ignore redundant CQ messages and only process the first one.?? That way any messaging station that sends to a group, but doesn't receive back the ack, won't flood the current members with redundant messages for each of their retries.?? ANSRVR knows that it has already sent out that message, and will still ack the retry, but it won't send them out redundantly. Hopefully I'll get that done before next Thursday's net ramps up! Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/10/2023 8:47 AM, Adam Mahnke
wrote:
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Re: Scroller settings, and IS to RF Gate Questions
Lynn,? This all makes sense and yes this is all screen shots?from the W2CXM instance.? Here is the filter that is set up to gate from IS to RF a/42.6295/-076.7045/42.2555/-076.23833 -b/KD2EAT/N2PYI-13/KC2DYR -s//a&/D? I did not have the "Log All" checked so there are no log files. This has been changed, as has the scroller setting you suggested.? Sounds like everything is WAD and I just never happened to notice it before.? 73's Adam Mahnke KC2ANT On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:51?PM Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:
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Re: Scroller settings, and IS to RF Gate Questions
Lynn Deffenbaugh
开云体育
If someone checked in to the HOTG ANSRVR group today, you're likely to see LOTS of subsequent stations, both remote RF and APRS-IS stations, show up in your scroller.?? Especially if the IGate copies digipeated packets back.?? I like to run with Configure / Scroller / Show IGate/Digi which gives you a second column showing the station you directly copied the packet from as well as the source callsign of the packet itself. IIRC, the # in the scroller indicates that it was a 3rd party
packet and you definitely show more than a few of those. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/9/2023 5:46 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
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Re: Scroller settings, and IS to RF Gate Questions
Lynn Deffenbaugh
开云体育Ok, I gather those screen shots are from W2CXM.?? Is the FilterTest that is shown there configured to gate the filtered packets from -IS to RF? Well, on looking at CT1END-2's messages at aprs.fi (), it doesn't matter.?? The posit from CT1END-2 was likely supposed to go out to RF in your local.? I suspect, but haven't researched enough to prove, that someone in W2CXM's RF footprint checked in to the ANSRVR HOTG Thursday check-in net.?? And for the next 12 hours, all further checkins to that net would generate both a message to that station as well as a posit packet from the station that checked in to the net as CT1END-2 definitely did. If you have Enables / Ports / Log All checked, then you should have some *.PKT files in the directory from which W2CXM runs.?? The most recent file will contain all of your station's RF traffic.? In there, you will likely see the CQ HOTG being sent from some RF station to ANSRVR and ANSRVR's response to that station indicating how many copies of that check-in message were transmitted. And from that point forward, you will likely see other N:HOTG messages addressed to that station followed sometime later by posit packets of the sources of those messages, of which I suspect CT1END-2 was one. Oh, and these so-called "Courtesy Posits" after the messages
won't show up in your FilterTest, but will be in both Transmit and
the *.PKT file if you have it enabled.?? They would also appear
(IIRC) in one of the IGate* trace logs. Let me know if this matches what you see in W2CXM's logs.? If so,
it is all WAD - Working As Designed. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/9/2023 5:46 PM, Adam Mahnke wrote:
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Scroller settings, and IS to RF Gate Questions
Hey all, While driving home tonight I was seeing (on my D710) IS stations being gated to RF that shouldn't have been that indicated they were TCPIP?First, and W2CXM Last, normally this indicates that W2CXM is gating them that are well outside my area filter This prompted me to take a look at the station?W2CXM and restart it. This happened between 4 and 5pm Eastern. When I look at the Raw data on () I"m not seeing what I saw on my radio face, which is odd....? First thing I noticed?while looking at the instance is that while my scroller is set to RF Only it is giving me stations that are IS Stations.? I've got my trace logs up and running for capture, right now they seem to be behaving themselves. Has anyone seen this behavior before? Thanks for any insight 73's Adam Mahnke KC2ANT |
Re: APRSIS reinstall issues..
wheelz
Alrighty - All is good now.? Only thing I did differently was edited the XML for the development version and everything is up and runny perfectly so far.? So, something int he developer version worked.? Closed cased.?? |
Re: APRSIS reinstall issues..
Please explain what you feel are "weird issues"?
?? The wiki has info on the scroller elements (colors and symbols): # - A pound sign after the callsign indicates that the packet was received from RF inside a 3rd party packet ?? @ - An at sign after the callsign indicates that the packet was digipeated by your station Second.? The simply(KISS) type port assume the TNC is already in KISS mode, so there are no "functional" open/close statement. Since you appear to be receiving (and DIGI'ing) packets from RF, I don't see why you are questioning the configuration. ------- Rob Giuliano |
Re: APRSIS reinstall issues..
wheelz
Morning Rob,? ? |
Re: APRSIS reinstall issues..
On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 09:47 PM, wheelz wrote:
I downloaded the zip, unzipped and selected the exeFirst: Did you unzip the file or run it from within the zip file? Windows Explorer (File Explorer) will treat the zip file as a folder, but it is NOT a folder.? It is a zip file. You cannot double click the EXE file from within. Second: Microsoft has placed many restrictions on folders outside your user folder.? This is especially true of the Programs Files and Programs Files x86 folders.? It is best to place pre Windows 7 applications (Win32 applications that still require INI files) in a folder under the base structure. You may have to change permissions on the folder as well. ------- Rob Giuliano KB8RCO |
APRSIS reinstall issues..
wheelz
Hey everyone,?
Had to re installs APRSIS32 this evening due to it having become unresponsive.? I downloaded the zip, unzipped and selected the exe and after inputting the required information (call, passkey etc.) and select "ok", the loading scroll just sits there and 'hiccups'...? The program had become unresponsive within the last several days.? Task manager repeatedly says the program is not responding.? It's a new issue for me with the program.?? After terminating the program within task manager, I go through the process again and same thing.? ?The computer is windows 10 and I confirmed the program is allowed through the antivirus software. ~bryan? |
Re: Distinquish between Heard By, Hearing, Packet
Lynn Deffenbaugh
开云体育HeardBy: the path component that is first used in a parsed packet.? This would be the station (or alias) that likely hears the station direct.? If no components are used, then the iGate likely copied the station direct. Hearing: all stations whose packets have been heard by the station you're looking at.?? This may include digipeated packets, I'm not sure without looking at the source. Packet: the path of the most recent packet copied from that
station. Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS.?? When looking at some of these
pop-up text dialogs, a Control-C (for Copy) will put the text into
the clipboard instead of capturing an image of the window.?
Control-C when a map has focus will copy the image into the
clipboard.
On 3/1/2023 10:57 AM, PGH wrote:
Right clicking on stations shows the attached box. What is the distinction between Heard By, Hearing, and Packet, and what is each line showing?? I assume Packet is the Packet path.? Also, which of these stations Igated. Wiki indicates the station with the * is the igating station.? ?Paul W0PGH-10 |
Re: Bluetooth GPS Receivers
You don't say how you were trying to connect the Bluetooth GPS.
What did you try as a connection type with the Bluetooth GPS? I don't have the tablet, and I know some tablets are difficult to work with for GPS. On my Windows Laptop, I was able to connect using Menu >Configure >Ports >NMEA and choose Bluetooth and my Bluetooth GPS device was listed. When I've tried to connect through a virtual serial port, it always fails. ----- Rob Giuliano |
Distinquish between Heard By, Hearing, Packet
PGH
Right clicking on stations shows the attached box. What is the distinction between Heard By, Hearing, and Packet, and what is each line showing?? I assume Packet is the Packet path.? Also, which of these stations Igated. Wiki indicates the station with the * is the igating station.? ?Paul W0PGH-10
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