Tonight I was tracking my son, W8TVI-12 with the APRSIS32 DeskTop version
and with using Google maps; what I noticed with Google maps
the SUV icon would show the direction of travel with the icon, but the
APRSIS32 program, while keeping his icon centered, it didn't show the
direction to travel in relationship to the map. Like I said, it was nothing
more than curiosity to me.

Dave N8PU

Jerome,

The APRSIS32.xml file located in the current directory when the .EXE is
executed is the only configuration information for the program. Are you
double-clicking the .EXE directly or using a shortcut from somewhere
else? It may be that the shortcut is specifying a different default
directory and an .xml file in that directory is giving you grief.
Although, if that were the case, it wouldn't prompt you for a new
configuration when you run it. The lack of a configured callsign is
what does that.

If it were me, I'd just edit the APRSIS32.xml file with a plain text
editor (Notepad works) and change the <OSM.Path> to something like:

<OSM.Path>.&#92;OSMTiles&#92;</OSM.Path>

Create a directory called OSMTiles in the directory along with the .EXE
and .xml files and remember to only edit the .xml with the client NOT
running. Otherwise your changes will get lost.

There's other parameters in the .xml that you can mess with and others
that will completely break the program, so please edit with caution and
save a copy of the pre-edited file! One of these days I'll get around
to documenting what all is in there and what is safe to change.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ


Jerome wrote:

Lynn,

I Installed APRSIS32 per your instructions; Entered my Call WD4CWG-2 and created a OSMTiles subdirectory from the Directory where the exe is located; Located Home and exited program to save.

Program worked fine ... however

The OSMTiles files seem to be "locked" into a location other than specified.

I originally placed the APRSIS32.exe in my c:&#92;My Documents&#92;My Downloads&#92;APRS&#92;APRSIS32 Folder. Then I installed the program, as described ... Entered my Call WD4CWG-2 and created a OSMTiles subdirectory from the Directory where the exe is located; Located Home and exited program to save. When I started up the program everything ran fine, but when I checked for the OSMTiles files, the OSMTiles folder did not exist and the APRS00-thru-APRS18 folders were located at C:&#92;My Documents&#92;My Downloads.

I then deleted ALL the APRS00-thru-APRS18 folders, deleted the APRSISCE.log, and deleted the APRSIS32.xml. I then repeated the above and got the same result.

I then deleted ALL the APRS00-thru-APRS18 folders, deleted the APRSISCE.log, and deleted the APRSIS32.xml again, then I created and moved to C:&#92;Program Files&#92;APRSIS&#92; and copyied the APRSIS Folder with ONLY the EXE and repeated the install ... (Exe now in folder C:&#92;Program Files&#92;APRSIS&#92;APRSIS). I again entered my Call WD4CWG-2 and created a OSMTiles subdirectory from the Directory where the exe is located (C:&#92;Program Files&#92;APRSIS32&#92;APRSIS32&#92;OSMTiles); Located Home and exited program to save. When I started up the program everything again ran fine, but when I checked for the OSMTiles files, the OSMTiles folder did exist this time, but the APRS00-thru-APRS18 folders were still located at C:&#92;My Documents&#92;My Downloads.

Is there another file located somewhere else that is defining the directory structure that I failed to delete ? Any Ideas ?

Thanks,
Jerome
WD4CWG

Lynn,

I Installed APRSIS32 per your instructions; Entered my Call WD4CWG-2 and created a OSMTiles subdirectory from the Directory where the exe is located; Located Home and exited program to save.

Program worked fine ... however

The OSMTiles files seem to be "locked" into a location other than specified.

I originally placed the APRSIS32.exe in my c:&#92;My Documents&#92;My Downloads&#92;APRS&#92;APRSIS32 Folder. Then I installed the program, as described ... Entered my Call WD4CWG-2 and created a OSMTiles subdirectory from the Directory where the exe is located; Located Home and exited program to save. When I started up the program everything ran fine, but when I checked for the OSMTiles files, the OSMTiles folder did not exist and the APRS00-thru-APRS18 folders were located at C:&#92;My Documents&#92;My Downloads.

I then deleted ALL the APRS00-thru-APRS18 folders, deleted the APRSISCE.log, and deleted the APRSIS32.xml. I then repeated the above and got the same result.

I then deleted ALL the APRS00-thru-APRS18 folders, deleted the APRSISCE.log, and deleted the APRSIS32.xml again, then I created and moved to C:&#92;Program Files&#92;APRSIS&#92; and copyied the APRSIS Folder with ONLY the EXE and repeated the install ... (Exe now in folder C:&#92;Program Files&#92;APRSIS&#92;APRSIS). I again entered my Call WD4CWG-2 and created a OSMTiles subdirectory from the Directory where the exe is located (C:&#92;Program Files&#92;APRSIS32&#92;APRSIS32&#92;OSMTiles); Located Home and exited program to save. When I started up the program everything again ran fine, but when I checked for the OSMTiles files, the OSMTiles folder did exist this time, but the APRS00-thru-APRS18 folders were still located at C:&#92;My Documents&#92;My Downloads.

Is there another file located somewhere else that is defining the directory structure that I failed to delete ? Any Ideas ?

Thanks,
Jerome
WD4CWG

?

Francisco Guerra wrote:
>
>> The left/right arrow keys will vary the transparency of the maps. It
>> defaults to 50% which is why it appears pale. If you crank it down
>> (left) to zero, expect to see your stations jump as it switches from a
>> Mercatur Projection required by the maps to a circular distance and
>> bearing display centered on the screen center. Make some rather
>> interesting displays if you're connected to a full feed.
>>
> Ok. But howto in Windows Mobile? I have not a wheel nor left/right keys.

Which Windows Mobile platform do you have? There's no soft keyboard
that can get you arrow keys? If not, how do you type text? Even if
there's a small cursor moving rocker thing, that should generate
left/right and up/down.

> I think "mouse-hover" is a good approach.

I'll see what I can come up with. My personal issue with hover is that
I tend to just throw the mouse out of my active window and it distracts
me to know end to see a hover pop-up appear from underneath wherever it
happened to land. I understand the desire for window clarification, but
I still believe that it's only good for about the first 2 or 3 days of
usage.

> I'm using a MFJ-1278 in a computer with Xastir and AGWPE+Ui-View in
> another one with Windows XP and a soundcard.
> It will be good if you can use the soundcard and/or the bluetooth in
> both versions.

I do plan to try to support AGWPE for SoundCard access. Given that
programs can access it via TCP/IP, I can probably support it from
Windows Mobile as well, but that would assume that you're actually
co-resident with the non-Mobile PC running AGW. Or is there a SoundCard
interface for Windows Mobile that I haven't heard of?

> Ok. I can connect the MFJ via bluetooth with the Windows Mobile
> device or with the desktop computer.

Correct. That's my primary focus, at least initially. You should be
able to use any serial TNC either via a direct serial port or via a
Bluetooth to serial adapter.

> The "+-" works different from other programms like Google Earth. In
> Google "+" zooms in and "-" out.

Yes it does. I did a survey earlier on and it ended up tied. Just
think of + adding MORE stations to the screen and - displaying FEWER
stations. I think of the focus of APRS being the visible stations, not
the visible map. This may yet change in some future revision, however.

> What does the color of the station mean? Usually they are green, but
> some are black or red.

The color of a station in the scrolling list indicates how far they are
from the screen center. Green stations are probably not even visible
or are at the edges of the map. A station in red is very near or
actually at the center of the screen. Black stations have not yet
transmitted a position packet so APRISCE doesn't know where they are.
They typically don't have a symbol either.

I'm considering displaying RF-received stations in BOLD in the scrolling
station list, thoughts?

> Can you configure the programs to use metric instead of imperial units?

Metric display is on my ToDo list. As I see more non-US callsigns
actively using the program, the priority of that task will rise.

> Thank you

You're welcome and thank you for the well-thought comments and bringing
my attention to them! With enough feedback like this, we can make the
program better and better in more ways than I can think of independently.

73,

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

Oh, sorry, my information was not correct.
To enter KISS On ---- "KISS ON" and then "RESTART";
To KISS Off ---- in TCP/IP, assuming the interface is "ax0", enter "param ax0 255" and then "Return". This command must be issue under TCP/IP "net>" prompt and in lower case.
So, is not easy to enter KISS Off. My MFJ is in KISS ON mode, permanently. I do'nt use programms in ax25 mode.

73's de CT1AKV

Em 2009.12.14 0:18, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh escreveu:

Francisco Guerra wrote:

Commands for enter/exit KISS mode in MFJ-1278 TNC are: "KISS ON" and
"RESTART" respectively.

So "KISS ON" puts it immediately into KISS mode? But once there, I
suspect it won't understand "RESTART" because it's looking for KISS packets?

I know the Alinco requires both "KISS ON" and "RESTART" to put it into
KISS mode. And a 3 character non-printable sequence (I don't have it
handy) to take it out. Is it possible the MFJ is similar?

73's CT1AKV
(PS: Did you read the comments in my last msg?)

Yes, I thought I did. Ah, I see them now. I'll comment back on them on
a separate reply.

Lynn (D) - Finding it hard to fathom a KISS TNC understanding a word
command to leave KISS mode

Em 2009.12.13 19:39, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh escreveu:

Francisco Guerra wrote:

I'm trying both windows mobile and win32 versions. The first in a
Samsung i900 device with Windows Mobile 6.1, and the other in

Windows XP.

I like both of them very much. The wm version solves a problem when
you have not a RF device or a digi ear you.
It will be good to have RF acess too, and the possibility of

igate in

mobile or in fixed station.

Thanks for the comments and the platforms and the willingness to try
them both.

I just added the ability to transmit via a KISS TNC and now I realized
that I need to support a configurable path over which to transmit.
After that, I suspect I need to add configurable commands to tell the
TNC to enter/exit KISS mode for those TNCs that don't stick there

across

power-ups (I know my Alinco TNC wants it). With that in place, it

could

act as a receive-only IGate. Then I'll start tracking "local" "recent'
stations on the RF to enable a message-transmitting IGate from -IS to
-RF (3rd party packets). Wow, seems like there's a lot to do, but I
really want to get a version out for those interested in playing with
the RF side of things too!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and

Win32 (and

soon RF)

Ok, there's been quite a few new members of the group over the past few
weeks so it's time to hear some feedback.

Who of you is running APRISCE on Windows Mobile? And what platform is
it on?

Who has dared the new APRSIS32 for Win32 and what's your opinion of it?

Tell me what features you like, what you don't like, and what drives you
crazy (like the slightest move while trying to click on the screen ends
up moving the map and locking the center)?

I'd like to improve the product and move it towards becoming a UI-View
replacement, so let me know what you'd like to see.

If all goes well, there should be a release soon that supports KISS TNCs
for direct RF access as well! This will enable mobile IGate operation
via your phone if you have either a real serial port or a BlueTooth to
serial adapter on your TNC.

I can't make the program better if I don't hear what you'd like difference!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

?

Francisco Guerra wrote:
>
> Commands for enter/exit KISS mode in MFJ-1278 TNC are: "KISS ON" and
> "RESTART" respectively.
>
So "KISS ON" puts it immediately into KISS mode? But once there, I
suspect it won't understand "RESTART" because it's looking for KISS packets?

I know the Alinco requires both "KISS ON" and "RESTART" to put it into
KISS mode. And a 3 character non-printable sequence (I don't have it
handy) to take it out. Is it possible the MFJ is similar?

> 73's CT1AKV
> (PS: Did you read the comments in my last msg?)
>
Yes, I thought I did. Ah, I see them now. I'll comment back on them on
a separate reply.

Lynn (D) - Finding it hard to fathom a KISS TNC understanding a word
command to leave KISS mode

>
> Em 2009.12.13 19:39, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh escreveu:
>>
>>
>>
>> Francisco Guerra wrote:
>> > I'm trying both windows mobile and win32 versions. The first in a
>> > Samsung i900 device with Windows Mobile 6.1, and the other in
>> Windows XP.
>> > I like both of them very much. The wm version solves a problem when
>> > you have not a RF device or a digi ear you.
>> > It will be good to have RF acess too, and the possibility of igate in
>> > mobile or in fixed station.
>>
>> Thanks for the comments and the platforms and the willingness to try
>> them both.
>>
>> I just added the ability to transmit via a KISS TNC and now I realized
>> that I need to support a configurable path over which to transmit.
>> After that, I suspect I need to add configurable commands to tell the
>> TNC to enter/exit KISS mode for those TNCs that don't stick there across
>> power-ups (I know my Alinco TNC wants it). With that in place, it could
>> act as a receive-only IGate. Then I'll start tracking "local" "recent'
>> stations on the RF to enable a message-transmitting IGate from -IS to
>> -RF (3rd party packets). Wow, seems like there's a lot to do, but I
>> really want to get a version out for those interested in playing with
>> the RF side of things too!
>>
>> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 (and
>> soon RF)
>>
>
>
>

Lynn,
I guess I'm too dumb to figure out how to make it track just one station,
under configure - add filter I added (my sons call) b/W8TVI-12 and nothing,
then changed it to f/W8TVI-12 and still nothing. I suspect I'm missing at
least one if not more steps but I can't get it to track him like I can using
the Google maps under (call).

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong, please keep your answer K I S S (keep
it simple for stupid).

Dave N8PU


-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf
Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:16 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] 2009/12/03 - New Release! - Station Tracking

Dave,

First, both the Windows Mobile and the Win32 clients expect an "always on" connection. They are first and foremost an APRS-IS (not RF) client and cannot get data without the Internet. With that said...

If you want to always receive a particular station's packets when you are connected and regardless of where it goes, you can add it as a buddy or a friend filter. The difference is whether you receive just that station, or the station and other stations within a specified radius of that station. The two filters would be added to the (blank delimited) Add Filter field of the configuration dialog.

As you can see below, the Budlist supports both wildcards and multiple calls in a single instance while the friend filter needs to specify the full call-ssid of the moving station along with a range in kilometers from that station's most recently beaconed position. You can even put a b/ filter for the call-* (all -ssids) along with an f/call-ssid/range filter for the particular -ssid you're most interested in. That way you receive any packets from the station before any position beacons have been received.

Finally, the client automatically adds an f/call-ssid/range filter using the configured range whenever you click on the station and select "Center" from the pop-up menu. The map will move to the center and will automatically move to the most recently received position of that station. This is very handy for just watching a truck go by on the local interstate, for instance, whereas configuring explicit b/ or f/ filters is good for when your son and daughter head out of state on a road trip!

The centered station is not remembered when the client is restarted, but the filter settings are, although you'd still have to find the station and re-initiate the Center action to get the map to track it after restarting.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

From


#3 b/ Budlist filter

The budlist filter will pass traffic based on exact match of the sender's
call or call starts with a specific pattern (from V 1.4). Also the SSID is part
of the exact match.

Syntax: b/call1/p1*/call3/p2*...

Where: b = budlist command
call# = The prefix (starting) pattern
p# = The prefix (starting) pattern

Samples:

*b/SM5NRK * This will pass all traffic from SM5NRK
without any SSID
*b/SM5NRK-5/SK5UM * This will pass all traffic from SM5NRK-5
and from SK5UM
*b/K** This will pass all traffic from stations
starting with K
*b/SM5NRK/F* * This will pass all traffic from SM5NRK and
all stations starting with F



#11 f/ Friend Range filter

The friend filter works the same as My range filter, except you define which
call-ssid should be used (see more above). Up to 9 friend filters can be defined.
This is a moving filter so it follows the call-ssid last known position.


Note: This will not work until a valid position has been sent from the
call-ssid defined.

Syntax: f/call/dist

Where: f = friend range command
call = call to be used as center of the range
dist = distance in kilometers from lat/lon.

Samples:
*f/SM5NRK/500* This will pass all traffic within 500 km from
SM5NRK's last position.

David Shrum wrote:

Lynn,
I suspect I just missed it somewhere but how do I make the map track a
specific station, not mine since I don't have an 'always on' Internet
connection. Do I put that call in the 'add filter' location then "OK" it?

Thanks,
Dave N8PU


-----Original Message-----
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Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:17 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] 2009/12/03 - New Release!


1) Map display dragging! You can now drag the map anywhere you want in
addition to still centering on (and following) a specific station. The
filter is automatically adjusted to include the configured range around
the map center (r/lat/lon/range) in addition to the range around the
home (GPS on Windows Mobile) location (m/range). If you are centered on
a station, the range around that station is added to the filter
(f/call/range).


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Lynn,
I suspect I just missed it somewhere but how do I make the map track a
specific station, not mine since I don't have an 'always on' Internet
connection. Do I put that call in the 'add filter' location then "OK" it?

Thanks,
Dave N8PU


-----Original Message-----
From: aprsisce@... [mailto:aprsisce@...] On Behalf
Of Lynn W. Deffenbaugh
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:17 AM
To: aprsisce@...
Subject: [aprsisce] 2009/12/03 - New Release!


1) Map display dragging! You can now drag the map anywhere you want in
addition to still centering on (and following) a specific station. The
filter is automatically adjusted to include the configured range around
the map center (r/lat/lon/range) in addition to the range around the
home (GPS on Windows Mobile) location (m/range). If you are centered on
a station, the range around that station is added to the filter
(f/call/range).


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Francisco Guerra wrote:
> I'm trying both windows mobile and win32 versions. The first in a
> Samsung i900 device with Windows Mobile 6.1, and the other in Windows XP.
> I like both of them very much. The wm version solves a problem when
> you have not a RF device or a digi ear you.
> It will be good to have RF acess too, and the possibility of igate in
> mobile or in fixed station.

Thanks for the comments and the platforms and the willingness to try
them both.

I just added the ability to transmit via a KISS TNC and now I realized
that I need to support a configurable path over which to transmit.
After that, I suspect I need to add configurable commands to tell the
TNC to enter/exit KISS mode for those TNCs that don't stick there across
power-ups (I know my Alinco TNC wants it). With that in place, it could
act as a receive-only IGate. Then I'll start tracking "local" "recent'
stations on the RF to enable a message-transmitting IGate from -IS to
-RF (3rd party packets). Wow, seems like there's a lot to do, but I
really want to get a version out for those interested in playing with
the RF side of things too!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32 (and
soon RF)