Re: Help setting up I-gate - FTM-500
I searched some of my logs and find that you DID gate some
packets to the APRS-IS, but you are running your APRSIS32 instance
as KQ4LMY which is the same as your radio.? For debugging issues,
and avoiding confusion, it is best that ever single APRS "thing",
be it hardware, software, or firmware, uses a unique -SSID to
allow for knowing what is doing what to whom and when.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
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New to aprs and trying to setup my FTM-500 in my house as an
I-gate With aprisce32. I can't seem to get RF received on my
station to forward to APRS-IS, at least, I can't see any traffic
showing up in my area on APRS-FI.
I am receiving traffic and it shows in APRSIS on my computer.
I can see my mobile KQ4LMY-9, beaconing in my driveway, but it
doesn't show on an online map. My home station shows on aprs-fi,
but it is being seen by a digi-peater 35mi away to the NE or
another 33 miles to the SW.
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FTM-500 is connected to computer via Yaesu SCU-56 cable. Made
FTM-500 port using FTM-350 setting. Internet is provided via
starlink.
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Log files are attached. Any help would be appreciated.
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Thanks,
Brent
KQ4LMY
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Re: Help setting up I-gate - FTM-500
Well, the log file attachments didn't get here.
Also, it is always good to provide full details of your
configuration.? I can see that KQ4LMY is likely your FTM-500 and
KQ4LMY is also "aprs.fi via Web", but I don't see any station
under your base callsign that appears to be running APRSIS32?
What is the callsign-SSID of your IGate instance?
Does it have IGating enabled on both the RF port and the APRS-IS
port?
Do you have a valid passcode configurated for your station's base
callsign?
Do you have Enables / Internet Access checked?
You say that you are "receiving traffic" and "it shows in
APRSIS", but what exactly do you mean by that??? Are you seeing
*-flagged packets in the packet scroller?
If you double-click the top left box ("APRS-IS OK" hopefully), do
you see traffic on the configured FTM-350-type port??? Similar to
(Ctrl-C on this popup will copy the contents):
Port Status
APRS-IS Packets:
Sent: 1435 Recv: 25078189 Dupe: 4179
10-03 10:30:15 FEFL-RF OK - I:18912 O:0
192.168.10.6:2998
/hr 45.4k 44.2k 44.3k 45.4k 46.0k 45.6k 46.9k 52.0k
10-03 10:30:15 RF Feed OK - I:18768 O:0
65.35.51.129:6366
/hr 45.0k 43.8k 43.9k 44.9k 45.6k 45.2k 46.5k 51.6k
10-03 10:30:15 aprsc-RFFeed OK - I:17951 O:0
192.168.10.38:20152
/hr 43.1k 41.8k 42.0k 43.2k 43.4k 43.4k 44.5k 49.2k
There are so many things that play into this, but the defaults
for all of those settings would give you a functioning IGate
(except for the passcode).
But the first thing we need to know is the exact callsign-SSID of
your APRSIS32 IGate instance.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
New to aprs and trying to setup my FTM-500 in my house as an
I-gate With aprisce32. I can't seem to get RF received on my
station to forward to APRS-IS, at least, I can't see any traffic
showing up in my area on APRS-FI.
I am receiving traffic and it shows in APRSIS on my computer.
I can see my mobile KQ4LMY-9, beaconing in my driveway, but it
doesn't show on an online map. My home station shows on aprs-fi,
but it is being seen by a digi-peater 35mi away to the NE or
another 33 miles to the SW.
?
FTM-500 is connected to computer via Yaesu SCU-56 cable. Made
FTM-500 port using FTM-350 setting. Internet is provided via
starlink.
?
Log files are attached. Any help would be appreciated.
?
Thanks,
Brent
KQ4LMY
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Help setting up I-gate - FTM-500
New to aprs and trying to setup my FTM-500 in my house as an I-gate With aprisce32. I can't seem to get RF received on my station to forward to APRS-IS, at least, I can't see any traffic showing up in my area on APRS-FI.
I am receiving traffic and it shows in APRSIS on my computer. I can see my mobile KQ4LMY-9, beaconing in my driveway, but it doesn't show on an online map. My home station shows on aprs-fi, but it is being seen by a digi-peater 35mi away to the NE or another 33 miles to the SW.
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FTM-500 is connected to computer via Yaesu SCU-56 cable. Made FTM-500 port using FTM-350 setting. Internet is provided via starlink.
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Log files are attached. Any help would be appreciated.
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Thanks,
Brent
KQ4LMY
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Re: RF-PATH and IS(WIDE) ???
Thanks Lynn,
I'll have a look at them and see what I can find.
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Re: RF-PATH and IS(WIDE) ???
Do you perchance have Enables / Ports / Log All checked?? And if so, you should have some *.PKT files that hopefully contain all packets received by your station.? That should have all the details that I'd need to hazard a guess at answers to your questions.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 9/26/2024 5:25 PM, Demetre - SV1UY (M0SUY) wrote: Hi Lyn,
My APRSIS32 is only on RF not on APRSIS.
Have a look at the attachment please.
Could it be that someone is Gating from APRS-IS to RF or mangling the PACKETS and confuses APRSIS32?
Or maybe SZ4SRM-11 and SV3ISZ-3 have got AXIP ports via Internet between them because they are more than 600 kms away from each other and they seem to have a direct link between them, while the DIGIS in between on the mountain tops cannot hear the one form the north. It could be a lift on 144800 kHz but it lasts for days and weeks and I am not sure if this is possible.
Also the 1st station a few minutes before the captured phone also showed IS(WIDE) and not RF PATH, but after a while, when I decided to capture it, the 1st one changed from IS(WIDE) to RF PATH.
Any ideas would be much appreciated.
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Re: RF-PATH and IS(WIDE) ???
Hi Lyn,
My APRSIS32 is only on RF not on APRSIS.
Have a look at the attachment please.
Could it be that someone is Gating from APRS-IS to RF or mangling the PACKETS and confuses APRSIS32?
Or maybe SZ4SRM-11 and SV3ISZ-3 have got AXIP ports via Internet between them because they are more than 600 kms away from each other and they seem to have a direct link between them, while the DIGIS in between on the mountain tops cannot hear the one form the north. It could be a lift on 144800 kHz but it lasts for days and weeks and I am not sure if this is possible.
Also the 1st station a few minutes before the captured phone also showed IS(WIDE) and not RF PATH, but after a while, when I decided to capture it, the 1st one changed from IS(WIDE) to RF PATH.
Any ideas would be much appreciated.
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Re: RF-PATH and IS(WIDE) ???
The first one (RF-Path) was a packet copied over an RF channel,
probably the one you named TM-D700 based on the upper left
corner.?? According to the expanded me u path that you so
graciously provided:
This says that SV4FHR transmitted the packet with a ToCall of
3Y3V33, likely part of Mic-E formatted coordinates.?? The packet
was digipeated by SZ4SRM-11 and SV3ISZ-3 which together consumed
what was possibly an original WIDE2-2 path alias, but that last
part is pure supposition.?? It may have originally been a WIDE1-1
which was replaced by SZ4SRM-11 and a WIDE2-1 that was consumed by
SV3ISZ-3.?? There is no way to tell for certain.
The second one (IS(WIDE2-2)) was copied from your APRS-IS
connection.?? Matching up a raw packet from aprs.fi, it is likely
the following:
2024-09-26 11:02:52 EDT: SV4DCQ-9>SY3W48,SZ4SRM-11*,SV3ISZ-3*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-2,qAR,J41VAA:`24<l e>/]"4k}sakis
Matching this up to the second expanded
menu path:
We see the packet components from left to
right listed from the top down.
SV4DCQ-9 originated the packet (the
FromCall)
SY3W48, the ToCall, is actually part of the packet's Mic-E
formatted coordinates
SZ4SRM-11* is the first digipeater that
copied the original packet simplex and repeated it
SV3ISZ-3* is another digipeater that
repeated the packet
WIDE1* is the consumed digipeater alias
likely specified by the originating station.
WIDE2-2 is the first unused path
component, also likely from the originating station.
And from the aprs.fi packet, the
qAR,J41VAA is the q-construct and IGate that received the packet,
probably from SV3ISZ-3, and gated it to the APRS-IS network.
But the strange thing to me is how there
are TWO digipeaters before the WIDE1??? There should only be one.?
But another raw packet from aprs.fi indicates that you have at
least one stealth digipeater in the area that is consuming WIDE1
aliases without inserting the digipeater callsign.
2024-09-26 11:15:01 EDT: SV4DCQ-9>SY3W48,WIDE1*,WIDE2-2,qAR,SZ4KRD:`24<l e>/]"4k}sakis
This pair of packets is precisely why it
is impossible to do RF analysis from the APRS-IS network.?? There
are too many unknowns and too many inconsistently configured
digipeaters in the wild.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and
Win32
On 9/26/2024 2:00 PM, Demetre - SV1UY
(M0SUY) wrote:
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Hi,
Does anyone know the difference between RF-PATH and IS(WIDE)???
Please see attached pictures.
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Hi,
Does anyone know the difference between RF-PATH and IS(WIDE)???
Please see attached pictures.
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Right now I'm working in offline mode just to experiment with the map and such and don't want to flood the frequency with packets.? Also, I was a bit surprised when I was working as an IGate a few years ago and learning it how many emails I got from irritated
operators saying my station was beaconing too much. That's partly why I stopped using APRS was I couldnt figure out how to reduce or prevent my station, be it with the APRSIS program, or just the kenwood D 700 as a digipeater on its own, as I had it set to
beacon every hour and it was sending signals apparently all the time.?
So for right now I'm playing offline and off the regular network so I don't upset the apple cart again.
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May I ask what you're running that you think only needs to beacon
once every 3 hours??? Seems extreme to me.?? With that setting,
you might as well just never beacon at all?
Certainly, without beaconing, APRS messages addressed to you from
the Internet may not arrive because 3 hours is longer than what
most IGates consider "recently" for the purposes of message
gating.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 9/15/2024 1:13 PM, Chad WS wrote:
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I see that when setting the min and max time in smart
beaconing that it only allows for up to 300 seconds min, and 60
min max, so the 3 hour setting I had gets wiped out even after I
accept putting it in.?
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I see that when setting the min and max time in smart beaconing that it only allows for up to 300 seconds min, and 60 min max, so the 3 hour setting I had gets wiped out even after I accept putting it in.?
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Thanks, I'll have a look. Not being on the 390 it should be pretty quiet except for the ht that I'm running with it.?
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Yes, I've tried with and without the box checked.
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Sounds like you have Smart Beaconing enabled and have a drifting
GPS.?? Try going to Configure / GeniusBeaconing and check the Time
Only box.? Then set the Max Time to the interval that you want it
to beacon.
Or if you want to see why it is beaconing, check Configure /
Beacon / Why and then watch your packets.?? It should say what
triggered each beacon.
The upper left box also shows words and a bar that shows what the
current "Pressure" is leading up to the next beacon as described
in #27 at
with the details at
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS.?? Providing the exact callsign-SSID
can go a long way in helping people give specific comments.
On 9/15/2024 12:30 PM, Chad WS wrote:
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Good morning! I've been trying to figure out how to make it
so it doesn't beacon so often. I went to configure and smart
beaconing and set the times roughly to every 3 hours, but I see
it's still beaconing pretty frequently. I'm not on the 390 as
I'm doing some other testing but I'd rather it not beacon so
often.? Thanks!
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Is your smart beconing set to Time Only?
Good morning! I've been trying to figure out how to make it so it doesn't beacon so often. I went to configure and smart beaconing and set the times roughly to every 3 hours, but I see it's still beaconing pretty frequently. I'm not on the 390 as I'm doing some other testing but I'd rather it not beacon so often.? Thanks!
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Good morning! I've been trying to figure out how to make it so it doesn't beacon so often. I went to configure and smart beaconing and set the times roughly to every 3 hours, but I see it's still beaconing pretty frequently. I'm not on the 390 as I'm doing some other testing but I'd rather it not beacon so often.? Thanks!
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Interesting!
I am always looking for something possibly better.
I will do some research and get back with you.
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Matthew
KK4ZDZ
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Thank You!
I will have a look.
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Matthew
KK4ZDZ
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Any Windows-based auto-restart of the program will likely bring
the program up in the same state it comes up when you manually
start it.
What "suspended TX" are you referring to?
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS.? It is always good to quote at least
the relevant part of a message you are replying to.?? We all
received and/or read messages differently and some of us (me
particularly) don't like threaded readers.? When a message comes
through referring to a subject from 4 months ago, the quote does
wonders to provide context.
On 9/8/2024 6:01 AM, Carl via groups.io
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This will not re-enable the suspended TX though will it?
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Probably not for this group, but you never know.
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I use a developer version of the prog to fill in Mold with local internet activity.? ?Just got an update installed.? ?It's working great, and I like the tracking windows and stuff.
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It's on MB7UMD-10 and it's driving me nuts.
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Once every 24/72 hours the usb port disconnects from the serial converter.? I assume this is the case as the radio decides it's no longer in KISS mode and I fix the issue by removing and replacing the USB A connector on the PC.
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Just in case I changed the USB/Serial converter and that installed new prolific drivers to a new com port but didn't fix the problem.
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I'm guessing it's windows 10
The machine is an old Fujitsu and it's working very hard to run win10 to be fair.
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Anything I can look at?
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Demetre - SV1UY (M0SUY)
Matthew B Simons
Carl