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Re: Using the mini lathe

 

I've thought about using it for a magneto tester, but I haven't done it yet.
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On 06/11/2024 1:39 PM EDT davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
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I hoping others post other uses for mini lathe .

I have it paints lines shafts.
Note use bedway covers I like plywood with cleats to hold in place

Winding coils.?

Please post your other uses

Dave?


Re: Using the mini lathe

 

I hoping others post other uses for mini lathe .

I have it paints lines shafts.
Note use bedway covers I like plywood with cleats to hold in place

Winding coils.?

Please post your other uses

Dave?


Re: Using the mini lathe

 

For screw machines they a lubricating cutting.?

The only two problems with oil coolant is cost and it is not clean.

Dave?


Re: Using the mini lathe

 

Such coolant is called "flood cooling."? It is water with emulsified oil and usually rust inhibitors.? Water conducts heat well, but oil does not.? Oil lubricates well, but water does not.? The most important lubrication is of the of the cutting tool edges to help prevent metal buildup on them.? You still clean such machines, but perhaps not as often.? There are a lot of CNC machines out there, true.? But also, still a lot of manual machines.? Many vendors of lathes sell manual versions from Griizzly on up.

There is also mist cooling which can be a good choice for smaller machines especially in a home shop.? (Flood cooling requires more such as the means to pump it, collect it, strain it, and recirculate it.)? The spray coolant is also water with oil.? And some of the cooling happens with the evaporation of water in the spray stream and after it lands.? However, it is more risky to leave this sitting on bare metal for a long time and it is best to clean the machine and normally re-oil surfaces when done.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 05:23:44 PM PDT, Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@...> wrote:



In a professional environment with larger machines and near constant use, they are typically taken care of daily and "way oil" is used to protect ways and similar sliding surfaces.

It this still true? ? ?The professional lathes I¡¯ve seen all seem to be enclosed in a plexiglass enclosure and are pouring a flood of coolant on the part. ? ?How does this coolant interact with the lubrication? ? ? I know our little machines don¡¯t have coolant systems but I¡¯ve wondered how it works that a ¡°fire hose¡± of what looks like water-based coolant would work if there were oil in the moving parts.


Re: Using the mini lathe

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In a professional environment with larger machines and near constant use, they are typically taken care of daily and "way oil" is used to protect ways and similar sliding surfaces.

It this still true? ? ?The professional lathes I¡¯ve seen all seem to be enclosed in a plexiglass enclosure and are pouring a flood of coolant on the part. ? ?How does this coolant interact with the lubrication? ? ? I know our little machines don¡¯t have coolant systems but I¡¯ve wondered how it works that a ¡°fire hose¡± of what looks like water-based coolant would work if there were oil in the moving parts.


Re: Using the mini lathe

 

I agree?

The main lathe I owned and used for amost 30 years a 17" i purchased new. Keep well oil and no wear on any part of lathe.
The lathe did have a oil bath cross slide screw The only lathe new that had a oil bath.?

I gallon of way lubrication I use.
LMS has pints too

Dave?


On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 08:42 AM, Charles Kinzer wrote:
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I suspect that in the mini-lathe world, most get relatively light and intermittent use.? So low, that you probably couldn't wear the ways all that much during a lifetime oiled or not.? The greater risk is likely rust in the amateur machining world.
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However, being really careless, like getting a lot of grinding dust all over everything, might certainly speed up wear.? But even then, I doubt if most would live long enough to see a problem.
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In a professional environment with larger machines and near constant use, they are typically taken care of daily and "way oil" is used to protect ways and similar sliding surfaces. Way oil is special because it has a "tackifier" that helps it stay put (doesn't run off), even on vertical surfaces (rather handy for milling machines) and provides good lubrication to lower friction.? But for the mini-lathe, probably most any oil will do with the important thing being that at least something is put on the bare metal ways and other surfaces.
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But if you want to use actual "way oil", you can get a small 12 oz. bottle from Grizzly that will probably last you a lifetime.
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Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 08:20:47 AM PDT, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
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The manufacturers found biggest wear to bed ways on lathes and Mills.? ?Is no lubrication.?
The manufacturers have putting automatic pumping oil but still the machinist can not fill the the oil tank or even look the oil gauge.?

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Re: Using the mini lathe

 

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that's why folks are makin luber's that are automatic .

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On 6/9/24 8:20 AM, davesmith1800 wrote:

The manufacturers found biggest wear to bed ways on lathes and Mills.? ?Is no lubrication.?
The manufacturers have putting automatic pumping oil but still the machinist can not fill the the oil tank or even look the oil gauge.?

Dave?


Re: Using the mini lathe

 

I suspect that in the mini-lathe world, most get relatively light and intermittent use.? So low, that you probably couldn't wear the ways all that much during a lifetime oiled or not.? The greater risk is likely rust in the amateur machining world.

However, being really careless, like getting a lot of grinding dust all over everything, might certainly speed up wear.? But even then, I doubt if most would live long enough to see a problem.

In a professional environment with larger machines and near constant use, they are typically taken care of daily and "way oil" is used to protect ways and similar sliding surfaces. Way oil is special because it has a "tackifier" that helps it stay put (doesn't run off), even on vertical surfaces (rather handy for milling machines) and provides good lubrication to lower friction.? But for the mini-lathe, probably most any oil will do with the important thing being that at least something is put on the bare metal ways and other surfaces.

But if you want to use actual "way oil", you can get a small 12 oz. bottle from Grizzly that will probably last you a lifetime.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 08:20:47 AM PDT, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:


The manufacturers found biggest wear to bed ways on lathes and Mills.? ?Is no lubrication.?
The manufacturers have putting automatic pumping oil but still the machinist can not fill the the oil tank or even look the oil gauge.?

Dave?


Re: Using the mini lathe

 

The manufacturers found biggest wear to bed ways on lathes and Mills.? ?Is no lubrication.?
The manufacturers have putting automatic pumping oil but still the machinist can not fill the the oil tank or even look the oil gauge.?

Dave?


Re: Using the mini lathe

 

I agree ??

Dave?


On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 08:16 PM, Miket_NYC wrote:
Yes. Polish is abrasive and you don't want any getting on the ways.

On Sat, Jun 8, 2024, 8:12 PM mario mohl via <mario.mohl=[email protected]> wrote:
Cover the ways, no matter what temperature

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 2:09?PM davesmith1800 via <davesmith1=[email protected]> wrote:

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My ok to polish the knives today as long not over 10 minutes. It also 98¡ã in hobby shop at 10:30 today.

This what used to polish the knives.

Hope you put other uses for your mini lathe here for all to see.




Still could not turn the plexiglass rod it take to long in 108¡ã F day.?

Dave

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Re: Using the mini lathe

 

Yes. Polish is abrasive and you don't want any getting on the ways.


On Sat, Jun 8, 2024, 8:12 PM mario mohl via <mario.mohl=[email protected]> wrote:
Cover the ways, no matter what temperature

On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 2:09?PM davesmith1800 via <davesmith1=[email protected]> wrote:

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[Reason: Typ o and add for get me nots sorry]

My ok to polish the knives today as long not over 10 minutes. It also 98¡ã in hobby shop at 10:30 today.

This what used to polish the knives.

Hope you put other uses for your mini lathe here for all to see.




Still could not turn the plexiglass rod it take to long in 108¡ã F day.?

Dave

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Re: Using the mini lathe

 

Cover the ways, no matter what temperature


On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 2:09?PM davesmith1800 via <davesmith1=[email protected]> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Typ o and add for get me nots sorry]

My ok to polish the knives today as long not over 10 minutes. It also 98¡ã in hobby shop at 10:30 today.

This what used to polish the knives.

Hope you put other uses for your mini lathe here for all to see.




Still could not turn the plexiglass rod it take to long in 108¡ã F day.?

Dave

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Using the mini lathe

 
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My ok to polish the knives today as long not over 10 minutes. It also 98¡ã in hobby shop at 10:30 today.

This what used to polish the knives.

Hope you put other uses for your mini lathe here for all to see.




Still could not turn the plexiglass rod it take to long in 108¡ã F day.?

Dave


Re: 3-jaw largest bore?

 

I know? 7" and 8" mini lathes have seen? spindle hole just over ?" . I can even find larger
Do some mini lathes have smaller spindle hole?

Dave?


On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 08:17 AM, MikeK wrote:
By the way, I calculated that boring the spindle to 13/16" reduces the MT3 contact from 3" to 2.5", if that should matter to anyone.? Though I don't suspect many people use the spindle taper for much.? I rarely used my MT3 collets because most of them would get stuck and even using them required removing the motor cover to get the carriage in position.


Re: 3-jaw largest bore?

 

By the way, I calculated that boring the spindle to 13/16" reduces the MT3 contact from 3" to 2.5", if that should matter to anyone.? Though I don't suspect many people use the spindle taper for much.? I rarely used my MT3 collets because most of them would get stuck and even using them required removing the motor cover to get the carriage in position.


Re: 3-jaw largest bore?

 

That is a small hole.
I can see why you want a bigger hole.?
The on the chart for a 3" is only 0.63"?

I just a 5" 4 jaw on my lathe it set up for a 4" chuck.? Need backing plate purchased? one from little machine shop.com

I purchased the from Amazon.??



Dave?


On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 03:40 PM, MikeK wrote:
I seem to remember some years ago someone had increased the through-bore of the standard 3" 3-jaw chuck, but I can't remember where and didn't find anything in my search.? It may have been toolsandmods.com, but that site appears to be defunct now.

I was using the lathe last night and the 5/8" bar stock I was using had trouble sliding through the chuck bore.? It was really tight.? How big can you go without causing issues?? I know the screws holding the back cover on are already close to the bore.

Mike


Re: 3-jaw largest bore?

 

Sounds great.
Most almost same model of chuck 3 or 4 inch?

I will miss fun 4 jaw chuck and bars. It more taking on off chucks it time to do right.?

Dave?


On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 04:51 PM, Roy wrote:
The bending force is only applied to the distance between the chuck & adjacent bearing - the spindle between the bearings is not subjected to it. Opening the spindle & chuck bore to 13/16" works fine, I did mine years ago, before the LMS loaner reamers disappeared.

Roy


Re: 3-jaw largest bore?

 

True.? People have pushed the 7x lathe quite far.? Consider that the Grizzly and PM 10x22/30 lathes have only a 1" spindle bore.? And I definitely want one of those as well.

Mike


Re: 3-jaw largest bore?

 

The bending force is only applied to the distance between the chuck & adjacent bearing - the spindle between the bearings is not subjected to it. Opening the spindle & chuck bore to 13/16" works fine, I did mine years ago, before the LMS loaner reamers disappeared.

Roy


Re: 3-jaw largest bore?

 

You use 4jaw chuck?
I have 5" [125mm] has good size hole. It has 1?" 30mm size



On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 03:40 PM, MikeK wrote:
I seem to remember some years ago someone had increased the through-bore of the standard 3" 3-jaw chuck, but I can't remember where and didn't find anything in my search.? It may have been toolsandmods.com, but that site appears to be defunct now.

I was using the lathe last night and the 5/8" bar stock I was using had trouble sliding through the chuck bore.? It was really tight.? How big can you go without causing issues?? I know the screws holding the back cover on are already close to the bore.

Mike