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Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

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The lathe & mill are roughly the same weight (45kg & 55kg?) and the centre of gravity would be roughly at the pivot point (biased towards the mill as it’s heavier & taller) so flipping wouldn’t involve too much effort.

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Most of these set-ups let you go in both directions, mine would only go one way so less chance of it getting away from me.

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I’ve got a CAD model of the lathe, if I had one for the mill I could model the whole thing and see how it balances.

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ralph Lehotsky via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 31 January 2025 5:08 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

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Unless it would have an assisting motor, I don't think that I would be able to flip a mini-lathe or a mini-mill.? I can barely lift one, and usually have to disassemble parts of them when considering a location move.? Otherwise, for lighter bench tools, I think it's a great idea.

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ralphie


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

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I’ve thought of doing a slide-out rack for my laser engravers (got 3 of them).? The “blue boxes’ as they’re known.

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They’re not too heavy (20-25kg?) but I’d still need some reasonably hefty slides.

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You’d only slide them out to load/unload, and slid back into the rack when running, a bit different to most tools.?

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Too many toys, not enough space.

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce J via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 31 January 2025 7:44 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

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I’ll have to look it up, because I think it’s on my computer at home, but I”ve seen a system that put’s the tools on a plywood base that fits into rack shelves in your shop, and as you need them you slide them out of the rack and insert them into a slot on the workbench or onto your B&D workmate to use.?

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I also have seen a variety of mobile workbench plans with similar systems to hold a table saw and planer on either side, stuff like that. Mostly woodworkeing but might be good for some machine tools as well. ?



On Jan 30, 2025, at 11:01?AM, Charles Kinzer via groups.io <ckinzer@...> wrote:

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I don't think that Craftsman flipping table was made for very long.? It might be one of those things that looks better in the than how it works in real life.

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I was thinking about other schemes an if there is enough depth, perhaps a turntable scheme could hold a back-to-back lathe and mill.? (Or more items, I suppose, but just the two items would be the most compact.)

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And perhaps another with a grinder, one of the smaller belt strip disk sanders (like 6 inch disk and 1 inch belt) and a small bench top cut-off style band saw.

?

I think there is value in not having to turn things upside down.? Or having difficulty accessing a machine you might need just briefly when you want to also keep your current one at the ready.

?

Recently at the optometrist I was being shuttled from room to room for different tests with different equipment.? I suggested it might be nice if the patient could just stay seated and brought to the equipment like in some Disney ride. I was told some offices have everything on essentially a big turntable and rotate each piece of equipment to you.

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Carles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

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On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 09:42:56 AM PST, Tony Smith via??<ajsmith1968@...> wrote:

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Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that.

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That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos.

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Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things.

?

Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman.

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That video recommended this one:?, which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it).

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He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there.

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Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space.

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Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually.

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Tony

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From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?mike allen via?
Sent:?Thursday, 30 January 2025 5:16 pm
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

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??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned?

theres several tubes with other folks ideas?

animal

On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote:

Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue .?

good luck , keep us posted?

animal

On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via??wrote:

Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.??

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Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.

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I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.)

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Tony

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From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Ellis Cory via?
Sent:?Saturday, 25 January 2025 8:44 am
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

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Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though.

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* I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???

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* I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ?

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??????????????? Ellis

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I forgot rotary table.

If rotary table goes a mill it is OT.

But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$

I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off.

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If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say?OFF TOPIC?and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.??

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The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too.

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In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005.

The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.?

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No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?

So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group

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Dave?

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On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work).

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Tony

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From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?davesmith1800 via?
Sent:?Friday, 24 January 2025 6:54 pm
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

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This too

What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot

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On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic.

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Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess.

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Tony

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(Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.)

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From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?davesmith1800 via?
Sent:?Thursday, 23 January 2025 4:05 pm
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

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The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only.

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Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort

to add OT to help the first group.?

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Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all.

Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.?

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A owner and moderators?have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject.

Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.??

So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times?

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Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time.

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If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put?OFF SUBJECT .?

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I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning?

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off.

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Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter.

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And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject.

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Tony

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From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?davesmith1800 via?
Sent:?Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:10 am
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

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[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ]

I know right.

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I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.?

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I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.?

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  1. ?No political?
  2. No ads
  3. ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
  4. It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?

No one has to OT

Simple?

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Dave?

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Sorry forgot No html codes

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either.

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This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT.

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Tony

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From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?davesmith1800 via?
Sent:?Wednesday, 22 January 2025 7:04 pm
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

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May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.?

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OT? ? for OFF TOPIC

AH? ?for AROUND THE?HOME?

PR? ? for PROJECTS?

MM? For Mini Mill

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For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?

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Dave?

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Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

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That Craftsman table is a bit bigger than it needs to as it has three tools, you could do two stands with two tools each for not that much more floor space.

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I was planning on making some for the sander, planer, grinder and all that.?

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Not too keen on a turntable, being round they’d tend to waste a bit of space.

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Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Charles Kinzer via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 31 January 2025 5:01 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

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I don't think that Craftsman flipping table was made for very long.? It might be one of those things that looks better in the than how it works in real life.

?

I was thinking about other schemes an if there is enough depth, perhaps a turntable scheme could hold a back-to-back lathe and mill.? (Or more items, I suppose, but just the two items would be the most compact.)

?

And perhaps another with a grinder, one of the smaller belt strip disk sanders (like 6 inch disk and 1 inch belt) and a small bench top cut-off style band saw.

?

I think there is value in not having to turn things upside down.? Or having difficulty accessing a machine you might need just briefly when you want to also keep your current one at the ready.

?

Recently at the optometrist I was being shuttled from room to room for different tests with different equipment.? I suggested it might be nice if the patient could just stay seated and brought to the equipment like in some Disney ride. I was told some offices have everything on essentially a big turntable and rotate each piece of equipment to you.

?

Carles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

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On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 09:42:56 AM PST, Tony Smith via groups.io <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:

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Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that.

?

That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos.

?

Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things.

?

Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman.

?

That video recommended this one: , which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it).

?

He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there.

?

Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space.

?

Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually.

?

Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of mike allen via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2025 5:16 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned

theres several tubes with other folks ideas

animal

On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote:

Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue .

good luck , keep us posted

animal

On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via groups.io wrote:

Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.?

?

Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.

?

I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.)

?

Tony

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ellis Cory via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 8:44 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though.

?

* I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???

?

* I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ?

?

??????????????? Ellis

?

?

I forgot rotary table.

If rotary table goes a mill it is OT.

But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$

I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off.

?

If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.??

?

The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too.

?

In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005.

The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.?

?

No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?

So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group

?

Dave?

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On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work).

?

Tony

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 24 January 2025 6:54 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

This too

What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot

?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic.

?

Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess.

?

Tony

?

(Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.)

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 4:05 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only.

?

Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort

to add OT to help the first group.?

?

Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all.

Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.?

?

A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject.

Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.??

So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times?

?

Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time.

?

If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .?

?

I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning?

?

?

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off.

?

Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter.

?

And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject.

?

Tony

?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:10 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ]

I know right.

?

I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.?

?

I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.?

?

  1. ?No political?
  2. No ads
  3. ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
  4. It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?

No one has to OT

Simple?

?

Dave?

?

Sorry forgot No html codes

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either.

?

This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT.

?

Tony

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 7:04 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

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May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.?

?

OT? ? for OFF TOPIC

AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME?

PR? ? for PROJECTS?

MM? For Mini Mill

?

For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?

?

Dave?

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Re: Dismounting the headstock bearings

 

If look engineering press fit ball bearing some very light press for heat build-up so ball bearing does seize up.?
Other times they not ver good at machining for ball bearing.? A 1? ball bearing need a press fit from 0.000,1 to 0.000,5 ± 0.0001
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Dave?


Re: Dismounting the headstock bearings

 

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Hello PR,
My experience with these bearings is that they can be hand tight, up to press tight.? On an automobile the bearing is slip fit on the spindle and press tight on the hub, so use your judgement carefully.
Do you have a 3" spindle mount or 4" spindle mount???
If you have the smaller 3" spindle, you can goto your favorite BigBox home store, (lowes, Home Depot, Menards, etc.), and buy a small piece of 4" PVC Pipe x 12" long about... and a long enough piece of all-thread rod, 30" about, + 2-3 matching nuts and washers? to create a "Screw-Press" type of press with the 4" pipe over the 3" end of the spindle, with the long screw down the middle, and a small 2x4 piece of wood, maybe 6" approx, on the other end of the 4" pipe and a bushing of sorts that you would make before beginning this process that fits just in the small end of the spindle to lock in the inner diameter and be the same as the outer diameter slightly smaller so as to pass through the bearing there.

1. Before disassembly, make a special bushing to go into the small end of the spindle so that it will grab just the edge of the spindle and still pass through the inner diameter of the bearing, include a center hole large enough to allow the threaded rod to go through as well..
2. Stack the parts collected like this....
??? a. Nut and washer on 1 end of the threaded rod, pass through a piece of 2x4, then through the 4" pvc pipe.
??? b. take this setup to the lathe and pass through the spindle from the big 3" end all through the headstock.
??? c. Place your special bushing on the small end of the spindle and over the threaded rod and install the last washer and nut.
??? d. Tighten this mess up until the spindle is drawn out of the headstock.
??? e. Examine the spindle shaft area and look for burrs or shiney spots that might indicate what your problem(s) might be.
3. Remove any burrs you find, if you see shiney spots near where the bearings ride, sand or polish or file them a little bit until the bearing will slide smoothly but snugly, don't remove too much material.
4. Reassemble in reverse of disassembly
5. If this still does not give you your desired results, do it again and look closer at the problem areas.

If you have a 4" flange, you will need a larger pipe probably, maybe a stack of 4" pvc pipe coupler fittings,(without the center pipe stop ring), to allow the spindle to be removed through their center area. Glue and tape them edge to edge carefully and allow them to dry a day or 2 before using them.

Good Luck


On 2/7/2025 10:29 AM, Pierre-Raymond Rondelle via groups.io wrote:

Jon, Interesting vids.
They tend to confirm that a press is needed for dismounting and remounting. However, no figures are provided concerning the applied forces.
Referring to the ISO286 adjustment charts and a general guide about bearings (), I see that external tolerances are very low, around 2 to 5 ?m, that the inner rings should match a k5 or k6 tolerance range arbor and the outer ring should be mounted in an H7 or K7 bore. That said, the adjustments are qualified as "temporary" meaning that they could be disassembled with a mallet. In practice, they are almost stuck. Puzzling !

From my understanding, it should be possible to push the inner ring a little bit farther with the nut. But it blocks !

Perhaps search YouTube for "mini lathe angular contact bearing" and reveal this -->? ? <--. Maybe 'click it even'. Good luck on your final answers



Re: Dismounting the headstock bearings

 

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Jon, Interesting vids.
They tend to confirm that a press is needed for dismounting and remounting. However, no figures are provided concerning the applied forces.
Referring to the ISO286 adjustment charts and a general guide about bearings (), I see that external tolerances are very low, around 2 to 5 ?m, that the inner rings should match a k5 or k6 tolerance range arbor and the outer ring should be mounted in an H7 or K7 bore. That said, the adjustments are qualified as "temporary" meaning that they could be disassembled with a mallet. In practice, they are almost stuck. Puzzling !

From my understanding, it should be possible to push the inner ring a little bit farther with the nut. But it blocks !

Perhaps search YouTube for "mini lathe angular contact bearing" and reveal this -->? ? <--. Maybe 'click it even'. Good luck on your final answers


Re: My new 4 jaw chuck for rotary table

 

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??? Dave made mention before I believe how the cancer treatments? he's had have affected his talking/typing .

animal

On 2/3/25 2:24 AM, Miket_NYC via groups.io wrote:

I disagree. I admit I haven't been paying much attention to this thread, since I don't need to put a four jaw chuck onto rotary table. But Dave Smith seems to be serious about doing that, and he's providing drawings, photos and descriptions in his recent posts, so he's not just clowning around wasting people's time.? I agree Mr. Smith's language is irregular, but English may not be his native language to begin with.

I often see discussions here that I have no interest in whatsoever. But that doesn't mean they should be banned. It means I should shut up and hit my delete key.

Mike Taglieri?


On Wed, Jan 29, 2025, 7:48?PM Whitebear via <jmichaelsisler=[email protected]> wrote:
I'm out-I feel that davesmith1800 (if that is his real name) should have been banned by the moderators long ago. I just can't be bothered to incessantly?exposed to that brand of nonsense (what little of it I could make out due to poor English and even worse spelling). Good luck to you all-


Re: My new 4 jaw chuck for rotary table

 

Getting back to the original subject, there are some very low profile 4-jaw wood lathe chucks that work well for holding things on a rotary table. Mine lets me do light milling on my drill press.
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Roy


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

If you search for "flip top workbench images" you will see quite a few examples but have to scroll down for some.

Like this:

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Or this double ended one:

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Or this approach:

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And regarding the Sears Craftsman "Rotary Tool Bench", I don't think anybody posted photos.? Here are a couple.? You might think that the drill press can't be rotated up expecting it to hit some cross bar across the end.

Inline image

But there is no cross bar.? You just remove pieces of the workbench top to rotate.

Inline image

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer


On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 09:12:56 AM PST, Mike Schoeppner <ms-ss@...> wrote:


I believe the tool rack you are referring to was in a 2007 issue of Wood Magazine.? It is now available as a downloadable plan for $15.? You can find it by Googling Wood Magazine bench-tool system plans.
?
There is a good picture and dimensions on the website that gives you an idea of what it is like.? A woodworker should be able to build one from that picture, but the $15 plan should save you a lot of time.
?
I built a modified version of it and it works very well for a chop saw, spindle sander, and grinding/polishing setup.
?
Mike Schoeppner
Wichita KS


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

I believe the tool rack you are referring to was in a 2007 issue of Wood Magazine.? It is now available as a downloadable plan for $15.? You can find it by Googling Wood Magazine bench-tool system plans.
?
There is a good picture and dimensions on the website that gives you an idea of what it is like.? A woodworker should be able to build one from that picture, but the $15 plan should save you a lot of time.
?
I built a modified version of it and it works very well for a chop saw, spindle sander, and grinding/polishing setup.
?
Mike Schoeppner
Wichita KS


Re: My new 4 jaw chuck for rotary table

 

I disagree. I admit I haven't been paying much attention to this thread, since I don't need to put a four jaw chuck onto rotary table. But Dave Smith seems to be serious about doing that, and he's providing drawings, photos and descriptions in his recent posts, so he's not just clowning around wasting people's time.? I agree Mr. Smith's language is irregular, but English may not be his native language to begin with.

I often see discussions here that I have no interest in whatsoever. But that doesn't mean they should be banned. It means I should shut up and hit my delete key.

Mike Taglieri?


On Wed, Jan 29, 2025, 7:48?PM Whitebear via <jmichaelsisler=[email protected]> wrote:
I'm out-I feel that davesmith1800 (if that is his real name) should have been banned by the moderators long ago. I just can't be bothered to incessantly?exposed to that brand of nonsense (what little of it I could make out due to poor English and even worse spelling). Good luck to you all-


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

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I’ll have to look it up, because I think it’s on my computer at home, but I”ve seen a system that put’s the tools on a plywood base that fits into rack shelves in your shop, and as you need them you slide them out of the rack and insert them into a slot on the workbench or onto your B&D workmate to use.?

I also have seen a variety of mobile workbench plans with similar systems to hold a table saw and planer on either side, stuff like that. Mostly woodworkeing but might be good for some machine tools as well. ?

On Jan 30, 2025, at 11:01?AM, Charles Kinzer via groups.io <ckinzer@...> wrote:

I don't think that Craftsman flipping table was made for very long.? It might be one of those things that looks better in the than how it works in real life.

I was thinking about other schemes an if there is enough depth, perhaps a turntable scheme could hold a back-to-back lathe and mill.? (Or more items, I suppose, but just the two items would be the most compact.)

And perhaps another with a grinder, one of the smaller belt strip disk sanders (like 6 inch disk and 1 inch belt) and a small bench top cut-off style band saw.

I think there is value in not having to turn things upside down.? Or having difficulty accessing a machine you might need just briefly when you want to also keep your current one at the ready.

Recently at the optometrist I was being shuttled from room to room for different tests with different equipment.? I suggested it might be nice if the patient could just stay seated and brought to the equipment like in some Disney ride. I was told some offices have everything on essentially a big turntable and rotate each piece of equipment to you.

Carles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 09:42:56 AM PST, Tony Smith via??<ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that.

?

That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos.

?

Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things.

?

Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman.

?

That video recommended this one:?, which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it).

?

He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there.

?

Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space.

?

Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?mike allen via?
Sent:?Thursday, 30 January 2025 5:16 pm
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned?

theres several tubes with other folks ideas?

animal

On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote:

Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue .?

good luck , keep us posted?

animal

On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via??wrote:
Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.??

?

Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.

?

I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.)

?

Tony

?

?

From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Ellis Cory via?
Sent:?Saturday, 25 January 2025 8:44 am
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though.

?

* I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???

?

* I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ?

?

??????????????? Ellis

?

?

I forgot rotary table.
If rotary table goes a mill it is OT.
But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$
I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off.

?

If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say?OFF TOPIC?and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.??

?

The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too.

?

In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005.
The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.?

?

No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?
So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group

?

Dave?

?

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work).

?

Tony

?

?

From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?davesmith1800 via?
Sent:?Friday, 24 January 2025 6:54 pm
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

This too
What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot

?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote:
All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic.

?

Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess.

?

Tony

?

(Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.)

?

From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?davesmith1800 via?
Sent:?Thursday, 23 January 2025 4:05 pm
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only.

?

Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort
to add OT to help the first group.?

?

Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all.
Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.?

?

A owner and moderators?have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject.
Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.??
So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times?

?

Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time.

?

If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put?OFF SUBJECT .?

?

I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning?

?

?

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote:
Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off.

?

Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter.

?

And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject.

?

Tony

?

?

From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?davesmith1800 via?
Sent:?Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:10 am
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ]

I know right.

?

I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.?

?

I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.?

?

  1. ?No political?
  2. No ads
  3. ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
  4. It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?
No one has to OT
Simple?

?

Dave?

?

Sorry forgot No html codes

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either.

?

This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?davesmith1800 via?
Sent:?Wednesday, 22 January 2025 7:04 pm
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.?

?

OT? ? for OFF TOPIC
AH? ?for AROUND THE?HOME?
PR? ? for PROJECTS?
MM? For Mini Mill

?

For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?

?

Dave?

?

?

?

?


--?
Bruce Johnson

The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.


Re: [7x12MiniLath Lathe Mill table - OT

 

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Some cranks & gears off a bike ?

Once ya figure out the center of gravity on the mill the ya can start kickin ideas around . DC motors have a good hunk of torque for something like this , it's just finding the right one that may take some time . DOn't forget the limit switches .

??? 40 + years back I have make a setup for all tghe short guys in manufacturing to be able to flip one of our large computer cabines over on its side so they could install anti tip parts . I got my hands on a sizzor life? @ the size we needed & we made a flat bed that pivoted like on a dump truck .On the back of the flat bed we put some brackets so they could slide in piece on unistrut tha theld the cabinet to th eflat bed & acted as the handle for the tipping parts . Once we figured out the center of gravity on the cabinet so place the flatbed tipping point it was soothe sailing .

??? Promoters have bee using rotating stages so folks don't have to wait for all the equipment changes between bands for years .

animal

On 1/30/25 10:08 AM, Ralph Lehotsky via groups.io wrote:

Unless it would have an assisting motor, I don't think that I would be able to flip a mini-lathe or a mini-mill.? I can barely lift one, and usually have to disassemble parts of them when considering a location move.? Otherwise, for lighter bench tools, I think it's a great idea.
?
ralphie


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

Unless it would have an assisting motor, I don't think that I would be able to flip a mini-lathe or a mini-mill.? I can barely lift one, and usually have to disassemble parts of them when considering a location move.? Otherwise, for lighter bench tools, I think it's a great idea.
?
ralphie


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

I don't think that Craftsman flipping table was made for very long.? It might be one of those things that looks better in the than how it works in real life.

I was thinking about other schemes an if there is enough depth, perhaps a turntable scheme could hold a back-to-back lathe and mill.? (Or more items, I suppose, but just the two items would be the most compact.)

And perhaps another with a grinder, one of the smaller belt strip disk sanders (like 6 inch disk and 1 inch belt) and a small bench top cut-off style band saw.

I think there is value in not having to turn things upside down.? Or having difficulty accessing a machine you might need just briefly when you want to also keep your current one at the ready.

Recently at the optometrist I was being shuttled from room to room for different tests with different equipment.? I suggested it might be nice if the patient could just stay seated and brought to the equipment like in some Disney ride. I was told some offices have everything on essentially a big turntable and rotate each piece of equipment to you.

Carles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 09:42:56 AM PST, Tony Smith via groups.io <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:


Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that.

?

That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos.

?

Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things.

?

Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman.

?

That video recommended this one: , which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it).

?

He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there.

?

Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space.

?

Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of mike allen via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2025 5:16 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned

theres several tubes with other folks ideas

animal

On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote:

Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue .

good luck , keep us posted

animal

On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via groups.io wrote:

Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.?

?

Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.

?

I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.)

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ellis Cory via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 8:44 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though.

?

* I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???

?

* I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ?

?

??????????????? Ellis

?

?

I forgot rotary table.

If rotary table goes a mill it is OT.

But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$

I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off.

?

If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.??

?

The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too.

?

In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005.

The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.?

?

No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?

So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group

?

Dave?

?

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work).

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 24 January 2025 6:54 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

This too

What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot

?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic.

?

Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess.

?

Tony

?

(Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.)

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 4:05 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only.

?

Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort

to add OT to help the first group.?

?

Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all.

Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.?

?

A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject.

Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.??

So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times?

?

Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time.

?

If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .?

?

I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning?

?

?

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off.

?

Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter.

?

And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:10 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ]

I know right.

?

I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.?

?

I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.?

?

  1. ?No political?
  2. No ads
  3. ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
  4. It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?

No one has to OT

Simple?

?

Dave?

?

Sorry forgot No html codes

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either.

?

This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 7:04 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.?

?

OT? ? for OFF TOPIC

AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME?

PR? ? for PROJECTS?

MM? For Mini Mill

?

For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?

?

Dave?

?

?

?

?


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

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Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that.

?

That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos.

?

Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things.

?

Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman.

?

That video recommended this one: , which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it).

?

He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there.

?

Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space.

?

Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of mike allen via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2025 5:16 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned

theres several tubes with other folks ideas

animal

On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote:

Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue .

good luck , keep us posted

animal

On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via groups.io wrote:

Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.?

?

Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.

?

I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.)

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ellis Cory via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 8:44 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though.

?

* I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???

?

* I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ?

?

??????????????? Ellis

?

?

I forgot rotary table.

If rotary table goes a mill it is OT.

But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$

I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off.

?

If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.??

?

The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too.

?

In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005.

The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.?

?

No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?

So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group

?

Dave?

?

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work).

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 24 January 2025 6:54 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

This too

What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot

?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic.

?

Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess.

?

Tony

?

(Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.)

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 4:05 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only.

?

Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort

to add OT to help the first group.?

?

Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all.

Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.?

?

A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject.

Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.??

So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times?

?

Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time.

?

If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .?

?

I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning?

?

?

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off.

?

Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter.

?

And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:10 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ]

I know right.

?

I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.?

?

I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.?

?

  1. ?No political?
  2. No ads
  3. ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
  4. It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?

No one has to OT

Simple?

?

Dave?

?

Sorry forgot No html codes

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either.

?

This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 7:04 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.?

?

OT? ? for OFF TOPIC

AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME?

PR? ? for PROJECTS?

MM? For Mini Mill

?

For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?

?

Dave?

?

?

?

?


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 
Edited

Holy smokes!? Isn't that Craftsman bench quite the thing!? Yes, the mill might be a problem, but ... "mother of invention..."? My wife has this device in the kitchen that stores/hides her KitchenAide mixer.? You push a button and the mixer comes popping up/out like a jack-in-a-box, and that thing is heavy.? That thing's got me thinking...? @mike allen - thanks for posting link of YT video, and @Tony Smith please keep us up to date on your idea.
?
Thanks
?
Jeff


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

开云体育

??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned

theres several tubes with other folks ideas

animal

On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote:

Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue .

good luck , keep us posted

animal

On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via groups.io wrote:

Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.?

?

Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.

?

I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.)

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ellis Cory via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 8:44 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though.

?

* I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???

?

* I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ?

?

??????????????? Ellis

?

?

I forgot rotary table.

If rotary table goes a mill it is OT.

But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$

I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off.

?

If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.??

?

The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too.

?

In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005.

The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.?

?

No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?

So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group

?

Dave?

?

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work).

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 24 January 2025 6:54 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

This too

What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot

?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic.

?

Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess.

?

Tony

?

(Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.)

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 4:05 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only.

?

Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort

to add OT to help the first group.?

?

Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all.

Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.?

?

A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject.

Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.??

So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times?

?

Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time.

?

If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .?

?

I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning?

?

?

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off.

?

Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter.

?

And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:10 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ]

I know right.

?

I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.?

?

I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.?

?

  1. ?No political?
  2. No ads
  3. ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
  4. It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?

No one has to OT

Simple?

?

Dave?

?

Sorry forgot No html codes

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either.

?

This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 7:04 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.?

?

OT? ? for OFF TOPIC

AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME?

PR? ? for PROJECTS?

MM? For Mini Mill

?

For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?

?

Dave?

?

?

?

?


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

开云体育

Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue .

good luck , keep us posted

animal

On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via groups.io wrote:

Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.?

?

Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.

?

I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.)

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ellis Cory via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 8:44 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though.

?

* I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???

?

* I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ?

?

??????????????? Ellis

?

?

I forgot rotary table.

If rotary table goes a mill it is OT.

But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$

I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off.

?

If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.??

?

The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too.

?

In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005.

The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.?

?

No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?

So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group

?

Dave?

?

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work).

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 24 January 2025 6:54 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

This too

What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot

?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic.

?

Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess.

?

Tony

?

(Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.)

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 4:05 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only.

?

Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort

to add OT to help the first group.?

?

Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all.

Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.?

?

A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject.

Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.??

So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times?

?

Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time.

?

If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .?

?

I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning?

?

?

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off.

?

Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter.

?

And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:10 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ]

I know right.

?

I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.?

?

I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.?

?

  1. ?No political?
  2. No ads
  3. ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
  4. It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?

No one has to OT

Simple?

?

Dave?

?

Sorry forgot No html codes

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either.

?

This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 7:04 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.?

?

OT? ? for OFF TOPIC

AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME?

PR? ? for PROJECTS?

MM? For Mini Mill

?

For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?

?

Dave?

?

?

?

?


Re: ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

 

开云体育

Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.?

?

Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.

?

I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.)

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ellis Cory via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 8:44 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT

?

Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though.

?

* I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???

?

* I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ?

?

??????????????? Ellis

?

?

I forgot rotary table.

If rotary table goes a mill it is OT.

But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$

I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off.

?

If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.??

?

The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too.

?

In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005.

The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.?

?

No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?

So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group

?

Dave?

?

On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work).

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 24 January 2025 6:54 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

This too

What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot

?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic.

?

Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess.

?

Tony

?

(Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.)

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 4:05 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only.

?

Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort

to add OT to help the first group.?

?

Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all.

Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.?

?

A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject.

Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.??

So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times?

?

Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time.

?

If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .?

?

I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning?

?

?

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote:

Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off.

?

Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter.

?

And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject.

?

Tony

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2025 11:10 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ]

I know right.

?

I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.?

?

I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.?

?

  1. ?No political?
  2. No ads
  3. ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
  4. It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?

No one has to OT

Simple?

?

Dave?

?

Sorry forgot No html codes

?

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote:

When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either.

?

This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT.

?

Tony

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of davesmith1800 via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 7:04 pm
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE

?

May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.?

?

OT? ? for OFF TOPIC

AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME?

PR? ? for PROJECTS?

MM? For Mini Mill

?

For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?

?

Dave?

?

?

?

?