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Hi all! Looking forward to seeing folks at Nor'easter this weekend!

Just wanted to let my YASL friends be the first to know that in the near future I'm opening an Etsy shop where I'll be selling various 3D-printed board game accessories, and many of my products will be ASL-related. ?In fact, I have already designed a phase/SAN/ELR tracker, some custom dice/accessory boxes, and counter trays for both Hozan and Raaco boxes. ?Other things are coming, I have more ideas, and I'm always open to suggestions? :)

I will have samples of the above products with me at Nor'easter, both for sale and available for custom order. Please stop by my table and take a look! And if you can't make it to Nor'easter, I'll post my shop link here once it's open.

Thanks
Len
Re: Question - LLMC/LLTC and Concealment Loss

 

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Another interesting fact. ?The original first printing of the ASL rules had "LLMC/LLTC” omitted in A12.141. ? This was added later to A12.141, however they did not update the Concealment Loss Chart. ?The list in A12.141 is exactly like the line in the chart, the difference being the “LLMC/LLTC” reference.

In my opinion, AH/MMP intentionally added it to A12.141, so I would favor that either LLMC/LLTC is a concealment loss regardless of passing/failing, despite the chart not listing it.

On Mar 26, 2025, at 4:09 PM, Carl N. via <carlhnogueira@...> wrote:

I am at the hotel right now so no chart handy, but attacked resulting in a MC/TC is on that chart somewhere.?


On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 4:06 PM Paul Chicoine via??<Paul_Chicoine=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Carl, I might need new glasses… I don’t see it on the chart, which is why I’m asking. ? The chart doesn’t list taking or failing LLTC but A12.141 has it listed as an example.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 4:02 PM, Carl N. via??<carlhnogueira@...> wrote:

Go by the Concealment Loss table. The rules themselves list that as the go-to. I believe take a TC/MC is on there.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 3:58 PM Paul Chicoine via??<Paul_Chicoine=[email protected]> wrote:
I also found?A12.141 Actions: ?LLTC/LLMC, attempts to entrench, set a Fire, Deploy, Recombine, make a Sniper Check or PF/MOL/ATMM check, rally a broken unit, engage in Clearance attempts, change CA, apply a leadership modifier to anything other than a PAATC, or place SMOKE grenades?are examples of actions that cause loss of concealment.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Paul Chicoine via??<Paul_Chicoine@...> wrote:

Hi,

Q1:?Would a?LLMC?result in concealment loss for units that fail and break?

Q2:?Would a?LLTC?result in concealment loss for units that fail and become pinned?

Context:?In our scenario example, a DFPh shot affected the non-concealed units (including the leader who broke) and had no affect on the concealed units.
According to the Concealment Loss Chart:
  • If a?LLMC?breaks a unit it loses concealment
  • If a?LLTC?pins a unit it would?not?lose its concealment

Thanks,
—笔补耻濒
Re: Question - LLMC/LLTC and Concealment Loss

 

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The shot completely missed the concealed units and only affected the unconcealed units (see context below). ? It was a DFPh shot that affected the unconcealed units but had not affect on the concealed units (off the chart), but the unconcealed 9-1 broke, meaning everyone in the location needed to take a -1TC (LLTC) including the concealed guys. ?My questions are specific to that of taking either LLMC and LLTC. ? Chart and A12.141 differ. so that is why the lawyers need to get involved. ?I checked the latest version of the chart.

Thanks,
—笔补耻濒

On Mar 26, 2025, at 4:09 PM, Carl N. via <carlhnogueira@...> wrote:

I am at the hotel right now so no chart handy, but attacked resulting in a MC/TC is on that chart somewhere.?


On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 4:06 PM Paul Chicoine via??<Paul_Chicoine=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Carl, I might need new glasses… I don’t see it on the chart, which is why I’m asking. ? The chart doesn’t list taking or failing LLTC but A12.141 has it listed as an example.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 4:02 PM, Carl N. via??<carlhnogueira@...> wrote:

Go by the Concealment Loss table. The rules themselves list that as the go-to. I believe take a TC/MC is on there.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 3:58 PM Paul Chicoine via??<Paul_Chicoine=[email protected]> wrote:
I also found?A12.141 Actions: ?LLTC/LLMC, attempts to entrench, set a Fire, Deploy, Recombine, make a Sniper Check or PF/MOL/ATMM check, rally a broken unit, engage in Clearance attempts, change CA, apply a leadership modifier to anything other than a PAATC, or place SMOKE grenades?are examples of actions that cause loss of concealment.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Paul Chicoine via??<Paul_Chicoine@...> wrote:

Hi,

Q1:?Would a?LLMC?result in concealment loss for units that fail and break?

Q2:?Would a?LLTC?result in concealment loss for units that fail and become pinned?

Context:?In our scenario example, a DFPh shot affected the non-concealed units (including the leader who broke) and had no affect on the concealed units.
According to the Concealment Loss Chart:
  • If a?LLMC?breaks a unit it loses concealment
  • If a?LLTC?pins a unit it would?not?lose its concealment

Thanks,
—笔补耻濒
Re: Question - LLMC/LLTC and Concealment Loss

 

I am at the hotel right now so no chart handy, but attacked resulting in a MC/TC is on that chart somewhere.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 4:06 PM Paul Chicoine via <Paul_Chicoine=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Carl, I might need new glasses… I don’t see it on the chart, which is why I’m asking. ? The chart doesn’t list taking or failing LLTC but A12.141 has it listed as an example.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 4:02 PM, Carl N. via <carlhnogueira@...> wrote:

Go by the Concealment Loss table. The rules themselves list that as the go-to. I believe take a TC/MC is on there.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 3:58 PM Paul Chicoine via <Paul_Chicoine=[email protected]> wrote:
I also found A12.141 Actions: ?LLTC/LLMC, attempts to entrench, set a Fire, Deploy, Recombine, make a Sniper Check or PF/MOL/ATMM check, rally a broken unit, engage in Clearance attempts, change CA, apply a leadership modifier to anything other than a PAATC, or place SMOKE grenades are examples of actions that cause loss of concealment.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Paul Chicoine via <Paul_Chicoine@...> wrote:

Hi,

Q1: Would a LLMC result in concealment loss for units that fail and break?

Q2: Would a LLTC result in concealment loss for units that fail and become pinned?

Context: In our scenario example, a DFPh shot affected the non-concealed units (including the leader who broke) and had no affect on the concealed units.
According to the Concealment Loss Chart:
  • If a LLMC breaks a unit it loses concealment
  • If a LLTC pins a unit it would not lose its concealment

Thanks,
—笔补耻濒
Re: Question - LLMC/LLTC and Concealment Loss

 

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Thanks Carl, I might need new glasses… I don’t see it on the chart, which is why I’m asking. ? The chart doesn’t list taking or failing LLTC but A12.141 has it listed as an example.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 4:02 PM, Carl N. via <carlhnogueira@...> wrote:

Go by the Concealment Loss table. The rules themselves list that as the go-to. I believe take a TC/MC is on there.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 3:58 PM Paul Chicoine via <Paul_Chicoine=[email protected]> wrote:
I also found A12.141 Actions: ?LLTC/LLMC, attempts to entrench, set a Fire, Deploy, Recombine, make a Sniper Check or PF/MOL/ATMM check, rally a broken unit, engage in Clearance attempts, change CA, apply a leadership modifier to anything other than a PAATC, or place SMOKE grenades are examples of actions that cause loss of concealment.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Paul Chicoine via <Paul_Chicoine@...> wrote:

Hi,

Q1: Would a LLMC result in concealment loss for units that fail and break?

Q2: Would a LLTC result in concealment loss for units that fail and become pinned?

Context: In our scenario example, a DFPh shot affected the non-concealed units (including the leader who broke) and had no affect on the concealed units.
According to the Concealment Loss Chart:
  • If a LLMC breaks a unit it loses concealment
  • If a LLTC pins a unit it would not lose its concealment

Thanks,
—笔补耻濒
Re: Question - LLMC/LLTC and Concealment Loss

 

Go by the Concealment Loss table. The rules themselves list that as the go-to. I believe take a TC/MC is on there.


On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 3:58 PM Paul Chicoine via <Paul_Chicoine=[email protected]> wrote:
I also found A12.141 Actions: ?LLTC/LLMC, attempts to entrench, set a Fire, Deploy, Recombine, make a Sniper Check or PF/MOL/ATMM check, rally a broken unit, engage in Clearance attempts, change CA, apply a leadership modifier to anything other than a PAATC, or place SMOKE grenades are examples of actions that cause loss of concealment.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Paul Chicoine via <Paul_Chicoine@...> wrote:

Hi,

Q1: Would a LLMC result in concealment loss for units that fail and break?

Q2: Would a LLTC result in concealment loss for units that fail and become pinned?

Context: In our scenario example, a DFPh shot affected the non-concealed units (including the leader who broke) and had no affect on the concealed units.
According to the Concealment Loss Chart:
  • If a LLMC breaks a unit it loses concealment
  • If a LLTC pins a unit it would not lose its concealment

Thanks,
—笔补耻濒
Re: Question - LLMC/LLTC and Concealment Loss

 

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I also found A12.141 Actions: ?LLTC/LLMC, attempts to entrench, set a Fire, Deploy, Recombine, make a Sniper Check or PF/MOL/ATMM check, rally a broken unit, engage in Clearance attempts, change CA, apply a leadership modifier to anything other than a PAATC, or place SMOKE grenades are examples of actions that cause loss of concealment.


On Mar 26, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Paul Chicoine via <Paul_Chicoine@...> wrote:

Hi,

Q1: Would a LLMC result in concealment loss for units that fail and break?

Q2: Would a LLTC result in concealment loss for units that fail and become pinned?

Context: In our scenario example, a DFPh shot affected the non-concealed units (including the leader who broke) and had no affect on the concealed units.
According to the Concealment Loss Chart:
  • If a LLMC breaks a unit it loses concealment
  • If a LLTC pins a unit it would not lose its concealment

Thanks,
—笔补耻濒
Question - LLMC/LLTC and Concealment Loss

 

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Hi,

Q1: Would a LLMC result in concealment loss for units that fail and break?

Q2: Would a LLTC result in concealment loss for units that fail and become pinned?

Context: In our scenario example, a DFPh shot affected the non-concealed units (including the leader who broke) and had no affect on the concealed units.
According to the Concealment Loss Chart:
  • If a LLMC breaks a unit it loses concealment
  • If a LLTC pins a unit it would not lose its concealment

Thanks,
—笔补耻濒
Re: Return to Nor'Easter... w/ new player in tow

 

Het Whit,

Looking forward to seeing you again. You can be forgiven for your absence by dragging some new blood into the fold.

Thx,
Charlie?

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025, 9:14 AM Whit Richardson via <whit.richardson=[email protected]> wrote:
Hey all!

Been a long while since I've seen any of you. I think the last Nor'easter I attended was in maybe 2017 or 2018 (when my oldest son was a year or two old). That son is now about to turn 9, and I have a second son who just turned 7.
?
I've used that time to mold my oldest son into a wargaming partner for life. And I think he's finally ready for a tourney, so I plan to make my return to the Nor'easter this weekend, with him in tow. I didn't get my act together early enough to pre-register or get a room, but barring any problems with the hotel or registering at the door, we plan to show up Saturday morning and spend the rest of the weekend there with him.
?
I won't be able to compete in the tourney, and will definitely spend a bunch of time playing ASL with my son, but would also love to find a game or two with some old friends who aren't in the running for the trophy and will be forgiving of my blunders after so many years without having my nose buried in the ASLRB.?
?
-Whit
Re: Return to Nor'Easter... w/ new player in tow

 

Hi Mike, my bad, was thinking of 'Nick' Richardson, not 'Whit' Richardson in my answer below but sure glad to see Joe will be making it, what a great guy, the man with the magic Dioramas, Vic.


On Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 03:21:20 PM EDT, mallexen@... via groups.io <mallexen@...> wrote:


Yes, Joe is attending, and bringing his latest diorama for the winner!

-Mike


On Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 11:08:21 AM EDT, aslbunker@... via groups.io <aslbunker@...> wrote:


Hi Whit, is Joe Leoce coming as well?

I will be there for the Saturday daytime round, if I have no other matchup, or they don't need me for the tourney, I would love to play you and/or your son, I should be there at 9AM or just after, I'm riding with Steve Johns that day.

Nice to hear from you and Thanks for all the work you have done with Joe Leoce in the past, you guys are great, Vic.


On Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 09:14:39 AM EDT, Whit Richardson via groups.io <whit.richardson@...> wrote:


Hey all!

Been a long while since I've seen any of you. I think the last Nor'easter I attended was in maybe 2017 or 2018 (when my oldest son was a year or two old). That son is now about to turn 9, and I have a second son who just turned 7.
?
I've used that time to mold my oldest son into a wargaming partner for life. And I think he's finally ready for a tourney, so I plan to make my return to the Nor'easter this weekend, with him in tow. I didn't get my act together early enough to pre-register or get a room, but barring any problems with the hotel or registering at the door, we plan to show up Saturday morning and spend the rest of the weekend there with him.
?
I won't be able to compete in the tourney, and will definitely spend a bunch of time playing ASL with my son, but would also love to find a game or two with some old friends who aren't in the running for the trophy and will be forgiving of my blunders after so many years without having my nose buried in the ASLRB.?
?
-Whit
Re: Return to Nor'Easter... w/ new player in tow

 

Yes, Joe is attending, and bringing his latest diorama for the winner!

-Mike


On Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 11:08:21 AM EDT, aslbunker@... via groups.io <aslbunker@...> wrote:


Hi Whit, is Joe Leoce coming as well?

I will be there for the Saturday daytime round, if I have no other matchup, or they don't need me for the tourney, I would love to play you and/or your son, I should be there at 9AM or just after, I'm riding with Steve Johns that day.

Nice to hear from you and Thanks for all the work you have done with Joe Leoce in the past, you guys are great, Vic.


On Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 09:14:39 AM EDT, Whit Richardson via groups.io <whit.richardson@...> wrote:


Hey all!

Been a long while since I've seen any of you. I think the last Nor'easter I attended was in maybe 2017 or 2018 (when my oldest son was a year or two old). That son is now about to turn 9, and I have a second son who just turned 7.
?
I've used that time to mold my oldest son into a wargaming partner for life. And I think he's finally ready for a tourney, so I plan to make my return to the Nor'easter this weekend, with him in tow. I didn't get my act together early enough to pre-register or get a room, but barring any problems with the hotel or registering at the door, we plan to show up Saturday morning and spend the rest of the weekend there with him.
?
I won't be able to compete in the tourney, and will definitely spend a bunch of time playing ASL with my son, but would also love to find a game or two with some old friends who aren't in the running for the trophy and will be forgiving of my blunders after so many years without having my nose buried in the ASLRB.?
?
-Whit
Matchup confirmation

 

Hi,

Just wanted to confirm that Andy Howard got the emails about the matchup with Ron Duenskie. Andy, I have Ron's picks, if you can get me yours, I'll help with scenario and side selection.?

Thx,
Charlie?
Re: Return to Nor'Easter... w/ new player in tow

 

Hi Whit, is Joe Leoce coming as well?

I will be there for the Saturday daytime round, if I have no other matchup, or they don't need me for the tourney, I would love to play you and/or your son, I should be there at 9AM or just after, I'm riding with Steve Johns that day.

Nice to hear from you and Thanks for all the work you have done with Joe Leoce in the past, you guys are great, Vic.


On Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 09:14:39 AM EDT, Whit Richardson via groups.io <whit.richardson@...> wrote:


Hey all!

Been a long while since I've seen any of you. I think the last Nor'easter I attended was in maybe 2017 or 2018 (when my oldest son was a year or two old). That son is now about to turn 9, and I have a second son who just turned 7.
?
I've used that time to mold my oldest son into a wargaming partner for life. And I think he's finally ready for a tourney, so I plan to make my return to the Nor'easter this weekend, with him in tow. I didn't get my act together early enough to pre-register or get a room, but barring any problems with the hotel or registering at the door, we plan to show up Saturday morning and spend the rest of the weekend there with him.
?
I won't be able to compete in the tourney, and will definitely spend a bunch of time playing ASL with my son, but would also love to find a game or two with some old friends who aren't in the running for the trophy and will be forgiving of my blunders after so many years without having my nose buried in the ASLRB.?
?
-Whit
Re: Looking for a Nor'Easter Thursday game, or two.

 

I'd be happy to play you Ramond,

My email is aloha_brian@....? Send me an email and we can get something set up.

Brian


On Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 09:26:49 AM EDT, Ramond McCusker via groups.io <raymccusker@...> wrote:


If you're looking for a mediocre player, and, don't mind playing me,? I can be there by 10 or 11 am Thursday. If be happy to play a game!


On Tue, Mar 25, 2025, 09:24 Brian Wiersma via <aloha_brian=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
?
My Thursday opponent let me know he's feeling under the weather and will not be arriving on Thursday.? So, I'm looking for a new Thursday opponent (or two).? I expect to arrive by 10am.
?
If anyone is looking for a Thursday game let me know.
?
Thanks,
Brian
Re: Looking for a Nor'Easter Thursday game, or two.

 

If you're looking for a mediocre player, and, don't mind playing me,? I can be there by 10 or 11 am Thursday. If be happy to play a game!


On Tue, Mar 25, 2025, 09:24 Brian Wiersma via <aloha_brian=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
?
My Thursday opponent let me know he's feeling under the weather and will not be arriving on Thursday.? So, I'm looking for a new Thursday opponent (or two).? I expect to arrive by 10am.
?
If anyone is looking for a Thursday game let me know.
?
Thanks,
Brian
Looking for a Nor'Easter Thursday game, or two.

 

Hi,
?
My Thursday opponent let me know he's feeling under the weather and will not be arriving on Thursday.? So, I'm looking for a new Thursday opponent (or two).? I expect to arrive by 10am.
?
If anyone is looking for a Thursday game let me know.
?
Thanks,
Brian
Re: Return to Nor'Easter... w/ new player in tow

 

Hi Whit. Congratulations on the burgeoning family :-). Registering at the door is no problem. The hotel room could be problematic, as the hotel is renovating and that caused the hotel drop dead date to be firm.?

I would strongly recommend giving them a call. You won't be able to get the block rate, but hopefully something acceptable.

Let me know how that goes please.?
Thanks,
Carl?

On Tue, Mar 25, 2025, 9:14 AM Whit Richardson via <whit.richardson=[email protected]> wrote:
Hey all!

Been a long while since I've seen any of you. I think the last Nor'easter I attended was in maybe 2017 or 2018 (when my oldest son was a year or two old). That son is now about to turn 9, and I have a second son who just turned 7.
?
I've used that time to mold my oldest son into a wargaming partner for life. And I think he's finally ready for a tourney, so I plan to make my return to the Nor'easter this weekend, with him in tow. I didn't get my act together early enough to pre-register or get a room, but barring any problems with the hotel or registering at the door, we plan to show up Saturday morning and spend the rest of the weekend there with him.
?
I won't be able to compete in the tourney, and will definitely spend a bunch of time playing ASL with my son, but would also love to find a game or two with some old friends who aren't in the running for the trophy and will be forgiving of my blunders after so many years without having my nose buried in the ASLRB.?
?
-Whit
Return to Nor'Easter... w/ new player in tow

 

Hey all!

Been a long while since I've seen any of you. I think the last Nor'easter I attended was in maybe 2017 or 2018 (when my oldest son was a year or two old). That son is now about to turn 9, and I have a second son who just turned 7.
?
I've used that time to mold my oldest son into a wargaming partner for life. And I think he's finally ready for a tourney, so I plan to make my return to the Nor'easter this weekend, with him in tow. I didn't get my act together early enough to pre-register or get a room, but barring any problems with the hotel or registering at the door, we plan to show up Saturday morning and spend the rest of the weekend there with him.
?
I won't be able to compete in the tourney, and will definitely spend a bunch of time playing ASL with my son, but would also love to find a game or two with some old friends who aren't in the running for the trophy and will be forgiving of my blunders after so many years without having my nose buried in the ASLRB.?
?
-Whit
Dispatch #59 was published today.

 

Hello to all of my ASL Comrades.

Dispatches from the Bunker #59 has just been transmitted after much VASL playtesting and ftf paytesting.
It has the usual 4 new scenarios, featuring France 40, Russian Front, Late war China and the Desert for theaters.?Carl Nogueira also finishes his 3 part Desert in ASL analysis and we have the usual regional tourney and club news.

Dispatches is published twice a year in the Spring and Fall as a pdf newsletter, at least 12 pages and often 20+ with 4 scenarios and already?2 HASLs (Guadalcanal and Rees). We all have articles on all aspects of ASL play and looks at regional ASL play and tournament?action.?

If you are old school, send a check or money order made out to Vic Provost (NOT the newsletter) to:

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Thanks for your interest and support, your ASL Comrade, Vic.

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Re: Questions on Melee

 

You could toss a CC on there as a reminder neither can shoot out.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 9:50 PM Carl N. via <carlhnogueira=[email protected]> wrote:
Q2: whoever is actually under it. That could be:
The two melee units of both sides.
Any one of the units of either side?
Nobody?

Also, who is shooting in? If units friendly to the '?' unit are shooting, he is unaffected because the fire only hits melee/enemy units.

If an enemy units fires, everyone gets hit, because the enemy units are in melee in the hex and all else are enemy to them.
Carl

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 9:42 PM Paul Chicoine via <Paul_Chicoine=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,

A11.15 says that concealed units are not held in Melee, and that they can fire in their next fire phase (PFPh/DFPh depending on who advanced in) as TPBF. ? It also says upon losing concealment the unit is now held in Melee.? In the last sentence it says that non-Melee units can fire and it will affect all units in Melee (friendly and enemy).

Q1: ?If the Melee consisted of three units (one enemy MMC, one friendly MMC and one friendly concealed MMC), and the concealed MMC decided to fire as TPBF, would it hit the other friendly MMC and well as the enemy MMC?

Q2: In the above situation, the Melee occurs in an orchard hex with a 1S Foxhole occupied by the friendly concealed MMC, and non-Melee units fire into the Melee hex, who benefits from occupying the 1S Foxhole TEM?

Q3: ?What is it were reversed with the friendly unconcealed MMC under the 1S Foxhole, who benefits from the 1S Foxhole TEM?

Q4: ?If the friendly concealed MMC had remained in the Melee hex concealed, could it fire out of the Melee hex at moving enemy units during Defensive First Fire (if that was the next phase allowing units fire)?

Q6: Or, is the friendly concealed MMC restricted to TPBF within the Melee hex (in PFPh/DFPh)?

Q7: ?How should the hex be marked (CC/Melee counter) when two concealed MMCs (enemy and friendly) occupy the Melee hex and neither decides to engage in CC?

Thanks,
—笔补耻濒
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