The shot completely missed the concealed units and only affected the unconcealed units (see context below). ? It was a DFPh shot that affected the unconcealed units but had not affect on the concealed units (off the chart), but the unconcealed 9-1 broke, meaning everyone in the location needed to take a -1TC (LLTC) including the concealed guys. ?My questions are specific to that of taking either LLMC and LLTC. ? Chart and A12.141 differ. so that is why the lawyers need to get involved. ?I checked the latest version of the chart.
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I am at the hotel right now so no chart handy, but attacked resulting in a MC/TC is on that chart somewhere.?
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 4:06 PM Paul Chicoine via
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Thanks Carl, I might need new glasses… I don’t see it on the chart, which is why I’m asking. ? The chart doesn’t list taking or failing LLTC but A12.141 has it listed as an example.
Go by the Concealment Loss table. The rules themselves list that as the go-to. I believe take a TC/MC is on there.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2025, 3:58 PM Paul Chicoine via
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I also found
?A12.141 Actions: ?
LLTC/LLMC, attempts to entrench, set a Fire, Deploy, Recombine, make a Sniper Check or PF/MOL/ATMM check, rally a broken unit, engage in Clearance attempts, change CA, apply a leadership modifier to anything other than a PAATC, or place SMOKE grenades?are examples of actions that cause loss of concealment.
Hi,
Q1:?Would a?LLMC?result in concealment loss for units that fail and break?
Q2:?Would a?LLTC?result in concealment loss for units that fail and become pinned?
Context:?In our scenario example, a DFPh shot affected the non-concealed units (including the leader who broke) and had no affect on the concealed units.
According to the Concealment Loss Chart:
- If a?LLMC?breaks a unit it loses concealment
- If a?LLTC?pins a unit it would?not?lose its concealment
Thanks,
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