Strange addition to message
I am testing using APRS for POTA spots.
TO: POTAGW Via: MSG: WA7SKG K-TEST 146.520 FM VIA APRS
Over the air, the message says "VIA APRS{m000b"
Subsequent messages have appended {m000c, {m000d, {m000e, etc. What is
this string for? Why is it appended to my messages?
--
73,
Michael WA7SKG
"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
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Since you're using a TNC connected through a USB serial port, the port would probably be named /dev/ttyUSB2. Most computers these days no longer have the legacy PC motherboard serial ports that correspond to the /dev/ttyS0 port.
But it depends on how your container maps the hardware ports to the contained operating system.
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Andrew,
Thank you for the suggestions, especially about the?sample plug-in.? I have installed YAAC?under Ubuntu 22.04 in a linux container in Windows 11 and it is receiving and displaying stations from APRS-IS.? A TNC-x is sending APRS packets to one of the USB
ports on COM3 as validated by another APRS client.? My understanding is that for COM3, I should use a port name of /dev/ttyS2 in the serial TNC part of YAAC, but it doesn't work.? Is there a different port name I should use?
When I check the dev folder, I find many file names with tty, including ttyS2, but they are all empty.? How should I proceed to get RF packet info from the TNC-x into YAAC?
Russ
KB0TVJ
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:03?PM Andrew P. < andrewemt@...> wrote:
Greetings.
YAAC isn't presently set up for precisely what you are doing. It does have the following options, none of which seems to exactly match your needs, but maybe one is close enough, or will provide you with some ideas.
1. You can enable logging of received packets (transmit packets are always logged for regulatory reasons) and choose CSV format. However, that saves the raw packet format, so you would have to decode it yourself.
2. If you install the sounds and event logger plugins, you can specify that certain stations be explicitly tracked, and then ask that TRACKED_STATION events be logged to a CSV file. Note you don't have to turn on any sounds to do this; it's just that the sounds
plugin is the only code that generates TRACKED_STATION events. Also, note that TRACKED_STATION events require that the station be moving; it will not output another record for a given station until that station's position changes, regardless of how many duplicate
position records it gets for the tracked station.
3. The sample plugin generates a plain-text log of every station position report only as a distance and bearing from your station, but only when running YAAC in -nogui mode.
4. You could modify the sample plugin to use CSV format with lat/lon instead of distance/bearng and not check for the -nogui option.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Beggs <richard.n0eb@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 12:47 PM
To: Russ Chadwick; Andrew Pavlin
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Question about YAAC
Russ
I do not know but I am going to forward this to Andrew the developer of YAAC and see what he has to say. Andrew: Russ is the head of our local APRS group and needs the following answered. Can you please advise?
Thank You and God Bless [¡`]
Richard
Richard Beggs? ? ? ? ? ? N0EB? ? ? 449.975
1220 H Street
Salida, Co. 81201
Email: N0EB@...<mailto:EB@...>
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:53?AM Russ Chadwick <russ4cwop@...<mailto:russ4cwop@...>> wrote:
Hi Richard,
I have a question about YAAC.? Can you get it to output a file (preferably CSV) that contains callsign, time. latitude, longitude for each RF packet received?? It appears that aprsisce/32 can't do that.
Russ
KB0TVJ
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Andrew,
Thank you for the suggestions, especially about the?sample plug-in.? I have installed YAAC?under Ubuntu 22.04 in a linux container in Windows 11 and it is receiving and displaying stations from APRS-IS.? A TNC-x is sending APRS packets to one of the USB ports on COM3 as validated by another APRS client.? My understanding is that for COM3, I should use a port name of /dev/ttyS2 in the serial TNC part of YAAC, but it doesn't work.? Is there a different port name I should use?
When I check the dev folder, I find many file names with tty, including ttyS2, but they are all empty.? How should I proceed to get RF packet info from the TNC-x into YAAC?
Russ KB0TVJ
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:03?PM Andrew P. < andrewemt@...> wrote: Greetings.
YAAC isn't presently set up for precisely what you are doing. It does have the following options, none of which seems to exactly match your needs, but maybe one is close enough, or will provide you with some ideas.
1. You can enable logging of received packets (transmit packets are always logged for regulatory reasons) and choose CSV format. However, that saves the raw packet format, so you would have to decode it yourself.
2. If you install the sounds and event logger plugins, you can specify that certain stations be explicitly tracked, and then ask that TRACKED_STATION events be logged to a CSV file. Note you don't have to turn on any sounds to do this; it's just that the sounds plugin is the only code that generates TRACKED_STATION events. Also, note that TRACKED_STATION events require that the station be moving; it will not output another record for a given station until that station's position changes, regardless of how many duplicate position records it gets for the tracked station.
3. The sample plugin generates a plain-text log of every station position report only as a distance and bearing from your station, but only when running YAAC in -nogui mode.
4. You could modify the sample plugin to use CSV format with lat/lon instead of distance/bearng and not check for the -nogui option.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Beggs <richard.n0eb@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 12:47 PM
To: Russ Chadwick; Andrew Pavlin
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Question about YAAC
Russ
I do not know but I am going to forward this to Andrew the developer of YAAC and see what he has to say. Andrew: Russ is the head of our local APRS group and needs the following answered. Can you please advise?
Thank You and God Bless [¡`]
Richard
Richard Beggs? ? ? ? ? ? N0EB? ? ? 449.975
1220 H Street
Salida, Co. 81201
Email: N0EB@...<mailto:EB@...>
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:53?AM Russ Chadwick <russ4cwop@...<mailto:russ4cwop@...>> wrote:
Hi Richard,
I have a question about YAAC.? Can you get it to output a file (preferably CSV) that contains callsign, time. latitude, longitude for each RF packet received?? It appears that aprsisce/32 can't do that.
Russ
KB0TVJ
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Well, the speech synthesis part works very well with the espeak software (though sometimes annoying if your APRS-IS filter is open too wide :-). You can use that as an interim until I get the .wav files fixed. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 4:50 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Audio Alert Rats. I've been fooling with this for 2 weeks (first messages sent 2/7). At least (so far) it may not be something I was doing wrong. As I have my home APRS up 24/7 on its own screen, I don't always see when a message comes in. I recently had a couple fellows tell me they were testing their APRS and sent me messages, but by the time I saw them, they had already shut down and did not get my replies. That's why I'm looking for the audio alert to let me know at the time of arrival of a message. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 2/23/24 1:41 PM: Yeah, there's a bug in that code that I am currently troubleshooting (hence how I found the case sensitivity). Stand by for a new build with a fix.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 4:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Audio Alert
That's where I wasn't paying attention. Should have thought of that. The
files I was testing with all had .WAV. Changed them to .wav and they all
showed up and allowed selection. On the config page, it says "Use this
sound card:" with about 8 options on the pulldown. I have tried every
one of them and still can't get anything to play on an incoming message.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 2/23/24 12:39 PM:
Have you tried using ".wav"? The code in the plugin checks for lowercase file types. Also, which audio file type do you have selected in the file chooser dialog? If, for example, it was set to look for .aiff files, you would never see a .wav file because they would be filtered out.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 2:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Audio Alert
I'm trying to get an alert when I receive an incoming message. I have
installed the YAAC Sounds plugin. When I go to the Sounds tab to
configure, I set the Event Type= Message To, Action=Play Sound,
Parameter= (Filter set to WAVE) I choose the folder containing my
sounds, but no files show for selection. I've tried extensions of both
.WAV and .WAVE.
What do I need to do to get the files to show?
--
73,
Michael WA7SKG
"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
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Rats. I've been fooling with this for 2 weeks (first messages sent 2/7).
At least (so far) it may not be something I was doing wrong.
As I have my home APRS up 24/7 on its own screen, I don't always see
when a message comes in. I recently had a couple fellows tell me they
were testing their APRS and sent me messages, but by the time I saw
them, they had already shut down and did not get my replies. That's why
I'm looking for the audio alert to let me know at the time of arrival of
a message.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 2/23/24 1:41 PM:
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Yeah, there's a bug in that code that I am currently troubleshooting (hence how I found the case sensitivity). Stand by for a new build with a fix.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 4:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Audio Alert
That's where I wasn't paying attention. Should have thought of that. The
files I was testing with all had .WAV. Changed them to .wav and they all
showed up and allowed selection. On the config page, it says "Use this
sound card:" with about 8 options on the pulldown. I have tried every
one of them and still can't get anything to play on an incoming message.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 2/23/24 12:39 PM:
Have you tried using ".wav"? The code in the plugin checks for lowercase file types. Also, which audio file type do you have selected in the file chooser dialog? If, for example, it was set to look for .aiff files, you would never see a .wav file because they would be filtered out.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 2:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Audio Alert
I'm trying to get an alert when I receive an incoming message. I have
installed the YAAC Sounds plugin. When I go to the Sounds tab to
configure, I set the Event Type= Message To, Action=Play Sound,
Parameter= (Filter set to WAVE) I choose the folder containing my
sounds, but no files show for selection. I've tried extensions of both
.WAV and .WAVE.
What do I need to do to get the files to show?
--
73,
Michael WA7SKG
"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
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Yeah, there's a bug in that code that I am currently troubleshooting (hence how I found the case sensitivity). Stand by for a new build with a fix. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 4:39 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Audio Alert That's where I wasn't paying attention. Should have thought of that. The files I was testing with all had .WAV. Changed them to .wav and they all showed up and allowed selection. On the config page, it says "Use this sound card:" with about 8 options on the pulldown. I have tried every one of them and still can't get anything to play on an incoming message. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. wrote on 2/23/24 12:39 PM: Have you tried using ".wav"? The code in the plugin checks for lowercase file types. Also, which audio file type do you have selected in the file chooser dialog? If, for example, it was set to look for .aiff files, you would never see a .wav file because they would be filtered out.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 2:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Audio Alert
I'm trying to get an alert when I receive an incoming message. I have
installed the YAAC Sounds plugin. When I go to the Sounds tab to
configure, I set the Event Type= Message To, Action=Play Sound,
Parameter= (Filter set to WAVE) I choose the folder containing my
sounds, but no files show for selection. I've tried extensions of both
.WAV and .WAVE.
What do I need to do to get the files to show?
--
73,
Michael WA7SKG
"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
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That's where I wasn't paying attention. Should have thought of that. The
files I was testing with all had .WAV. Changed them to .wav and they all
showed up and allowed selection. On the config page, it says "Use this
sound card:" with about 8 options on the pulldown. I have tried every
one of them and still can't get anything to play on an incoming message.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 2/23/24 12:39 PM:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Have you tried using ".wav"? The code in the plugin checks for lowercase file types. Also, which audio file type do you have selected in the file chooser dialog? If, for example, it was set to look for .aiff files, you would never see a .wav file because they would be filtered out.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 2:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Audio Alert
I'm trying to get an alert when I receive an incoming message. I have
installed the YAAC Sounds plugin. When I go to the Sounds tab to
configure, I set the Event Type= Message To, Action=Play Sound,
Parameter= (Filter set to WAVE) I choose the folder containing my
sounds, but no files show for selection. I've tried extensions of both
.WAV and .WAVE.
What do I need to do to get the files to show?
--
73,
Michael WA7SKG
"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
|
Have you tried using ".wav"? The code in the plugin checks for lowercase file types. Also, which audio file type do you have selected in the file chooser dialog? If, for example, it was set to look for .aiff files, you would never see a .wav file because they would be filtered out. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 2:43 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] Audio Alert I'm trying to get an alert when I receive an incoming message. I have installed the YAAC Sounds plugin. When I go to the Sounds tab to configure, I set the Event Type= Message To, Action=Play Sound, Parameter= (Filter set to WAVE) I choose the folder containing my sounds, but no files show for selection. I've tried extensions of both .WAV and .WAVE. What do I need to do to get the files to show? -- 73, Michael WA7SKG "Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
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I'm trying to get an alert when I receive an incoming message. I have
installed the YAAC Sounds plugin. When I go to the Sounds tab to
configure, I set the Event Type= Message To, Action=Play Sound,
Parameter= (Filter set to WAVE) I choose the folder containing my
sounds, but no files show for selection. I've tried extensions of both
.WAV and .WAVE.
What do I need to do to get the files to show?
--
73,
Michael WA7SKG
"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
|
Greetings. YAAC isn't presently set up for precisely what you are doing. It does have the following options, none of which seems to exactly match your needs, but maybe one is close enough, or will provide you with some ideas. 1. You can enable logging of received packets (transmit packets are always logged for regulatory reasons) and choose CSV format. However, that saves the raw packet format, so you would have to decode it yourself. 2. If you install the sounds and event logger plugins, you can specify that certain stations be explicitly tracked, and then ask that TRACKED_STATION events be logged to a CSV file. Note you don't have to turn on any sounds to do this; it's just that the sounds plugin is the only code that generates TRACKED_STATION events. Also, note that TRACKED_STATION events require that the station be moving; it will not output another record for a given station until that station's position changes, regardless of how many duplicate position records it gets for the tracked station. 3. The sample plugin generates a plain-text log of every station position report only as a distance and bearing from your station, but only when running YAAC in -nogui mode. 4. You could modify the sample plugin to use CSV format with lat/lon instead of distance/bearng and not check for the -nogui option. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Richard Beggs <richard.n0eb@...> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 12:47 PM To: Russ Chadwick; Andrew Pavlin Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Question about YAAC Russ I do not know but I am going to forward this to Andrew the developer of YAAC and see what he has to say. Andrew: Russ is the head of our local APRS group and needs the following answered. Can you please advise? Thank You and God Bless [¡`] Richard Richard Beggs N0EB 449.975 1220 H Street Salida, Co. 81201 Email: N0EB@...<mailto:EB@...> On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:53?AM Russ Chadwick <russ4cwop@...<mailto:russ4cwop@...>> wrote: Hi Richard, I have a question about YAAC. Can you get it to output a file (preferably CSV) that contains callsign, time. latitude, longitude for each RF packet received? It appears that aprsisce/32 can't do that. Russ KB0TVJ
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Russ
I do not know but I am going?to forward?this to Andrew the developer of YAAC?and see what he has to say. Andrew: Russ is the head of our local APRS group and needs the following answered. Can you please advise?
Thank You and God Bless? Richard
Richard Beggs? ? ? ? ? ? N0EB? ? ? 449.975 1220 H Street Salida, Co. 81201 ?
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 9:53?AM Russ Chadwick < russ4cwop@...> wrote: Hi Richard,
I have a question about YAAC.? Can you get it to output a file (preferably?CSV) that contains callsign, time. latitude, longitude for each RF packet received?? It appears that aprsisce/32 can't do that.
Russ KB0TVJ
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Transmit i-gated my own ack?
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Re: next beta build#196 of YAAC, created 2024-Feb-17
On 18 Feb 2024, at 6:41?am, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
2. add configuration option to control whether the mouse wheel will zoom the
map. This feature is on by default, but may be disabled from the expert-mode
Configuration dialog on the Behavior tab. Thanks Andrew, this is awesome. Carl.
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next beta build#196 of YAAC, created 2024-Feb-17
next beta build#196 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2024-Feb-17
downloadable from
or
changes and updates include:
1. fix station renderer so killed Objects (if requested to still be displayed)
are rendered as "old" in their status.
2. add configuration option to control whether the mouse wheel will zoom the
map. This feature is on by default, but may be disabled from the expert-mode
Configuration dialog on the Behavior tab.
3. allow inactivity time limit to be edited even when the user doesn't choose
to use the "operator present" overlay, so it can still be used for
controlling auto-answering (if enabled at all).
4. adjust OSM importers to account for current number of Nodes and Ways in the
OpenStreetMap database.
5. fix logic error introduced in previous change to AREDN plugin that caused
recognized node to not be refreshed on update scans. Also improve debug
logging in the AREDN plugin.
6. update the Demo provider with the mouse wheel control option.
7. update the repeater finder and small screen plugins to always ignore
the mouse wheel.
8. try to fix race condition in marineports plugin's unit test.
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I'm trying to get an alert when I receive an incoming message. I have
installed the YAAC Sounds plugin. When I go to the Sounds tab to
configure, I set the Event Type= Message To, Action=Play Sound,
Parameter= (Filter set to WAVE) I choose the folder containing my
sounds, but no files show for selection. I've tried extensions of both
.WAV and .WAVE.
What do I need to do to get the files to show?
--
73,
Michael WA7SKG
"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
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Re: Raw packet sniffer... how to decode what I'm seeing?
On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 08:12 AM, Mike W7MVG wrote:
But why would WinLink be sending a login message? Shouldn't K0ION-7 be sending that to winlink, not the other way around?
Duh, I answered my own question on that part anyway... that's the challenge response from winlink to a login request.
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Raw packet sniffer... how to decode what I'm seeing?
 Can someone help me verify what I'm looking at here? I think these two packets mean that WLNK-1 (WinLink) has send a "Login" message to K0ION-7 and both W7BSB-1 and WA7GMX-8 have transmit i-gated it? But why would WinLink be sending a login message? Shouldn't K0ION-7 be sending that to winlink, not the other way around? Thanks. I'm trying to get better at figuring out the packets.
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Re: Digipeater object next to my statIon OBJECT on map
Andrew,
Thanks for the explanation.? Yes the digipeater icon had a question mark on it so it must have been the vicinity plotting.? Still discovering functionality in this feature rich program.
Thanks,
Brien -KE7WB
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Re: Digipeater object next to my statIon OBJECT on map
It also could be that you were seeing the digipeater station by vicinity plotting, as documented here: This is how your station can guess at the location of a station that hasn't sent a position beacon yet. Since digipeaters generally don't move, they don't have to send their position beacon frequently, so if you had just started YAAC up, you would beacon, the digipeater would send your beacon back to you, and YAAC wouldn't know where the digipeater was, so it would make an educated guess, based on all the stations you have heard that used that digipeater as their first relay station (and, at your startup, you might be the only station relayed through that digi that you had heard), . Once the digipeater does send out a position beacon (that you hear), YAAC will use that position instead of the vicinity plotting guess. And there are some people who operate "stealth" digipeaters that never position-beacon, but only meet their FCC-mandated identification requirements by using UITRACE path editing, so their callsign is inserted into the digipeat path. You can tell if a digipeater is vicinity-plotted if it uses the green digipeater star icon with a red question mark superimposed on it. A question mark is not a legal symbol overlay, so YAAC uses it to identify "stealth" digipeaters until and unless they send a position report with their proper symbol code. If you don't like vicinity plotting, you can turn it off in the YAAC expert-mode configuration dialog on the Behavior tab. Hope that helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Brien - KE7WB <ke7wb@...> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2024 12:35 AM I was running an old version. I downloaded the latest version and the digipeter object is no longer showing up next to my station object.
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Re: Digipeater object next to my statIon OBJECT on map
I was running an old version.? I downloaded the latest version and the digipeter object is no longer showing up next to my station object.
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Michael WA7SKG
Brien - KE7WB