Re: inconsistent map behavior
Looks like an obvious failure due to not enough memory allocated to the Java runtime on the second machine.?
How much RAM memory does that computer have, and what operating system are you using? Also, what version of the Java runtime are you using? Open a terminal or command window on the system, and at the prompt, type the command
java -version
(Note the space between the "java" command and the "-version" option.)
Assuming the computer has enough memory available, you may need to raise the Java heap limit with a command-line option to the "java" command used to launch YAAC. If the computer doesn't have enough RAM, it may need an upgrade. :-(
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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Hi Andrew,
thanks for the reply. Both machines are running 1.0beta208.
On the first (working) system, the error log shows repeated downloads of the NWS map file, e.g.:
Wed Feb 19 10:59:42 EST 2025: downloading CONUS_L2_CREF_QCD_20250219_155839.tif.gz took 675d+6223r+9680e msec
at Wed Feb 19 10:59:42 EST 2025, update time of NWS radar image is Wed Feb 19 10:59:13 EST 2025, expire=Wed Feb 19 10:59:56 EST 2025
On the other (non-working) machine: I only see the first download and then the listed error:
Wed Feb 19 11:16:32 EST 2025: downloading CONUS_L2_CREF_QCD_20250219_161441.tif.gz took 613d+7230r+8184e msec
at Wed Feb 19 11:16:32 EST 2025, update time of NWS radar image is Wed Feb 19 11:15:08 EST 2025, expire=Wed Feb 19 11:16:46 EST 2025
renderCurrentRaster: 1 files in 247msec @ zoom=1202457.5 1739981792875
renderCurrentMap[#1]: 60997(631215)/2419790 ways(0ur), 18/222335 nodes, 1 signs, 26 files(0 new,4 missing) in 10107msec @ zoom=1202457.5 [28.947521,-82.23135]
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
Wed Feb 19 11:36:34 EST 2025: try#0: connection to localhost/ lost: Socket closed
John, NX2I
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John
This sounds like there's some kind of networking issue on your second computer. This can happen when the radar image refresh is attempted and fails. An error message should appear in the YAAC.out file in your log files directory (also viewable
in the Help->About dialog on the Error Log tab, and in the terminal window where you started YAAC if you used one). Whenever you successfully download a radar image, the log should report the refresh time (when NWS says the image will be out-of-date), so you
should be able to predict when YAAC will try to download the image again.
What build of YAAC are you using?
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
I have the current YAAC version running on different machines. On one ( a RPi 4) NWS raster overlay maps are displayed and refreshed every few minutes. On the other, (an x86 machine), the maps do not refresh. If I delete a previously loaded NWS map, and
manually load a new one, the map displays. Subsequent maps are not displayed. If I look at the "raster maps" window, I always find the enable box unchecked. This happens even though "enable" is checked after loading the first map. Have I mis-configured the
second machine somehow?
73, NX2I
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Re: inconsistent map behavior
Hi Andrew, thanks for the reply. Both machines are running 1.0beta208.
On the first (working) system, the error log shows repeated downloads of the NWS map file, e.g.: Wed Feb 19 10:59:42 EST 2025: downloading CONUS_L2_CREF_QCD_20250219_155839.tif.gz took 675d+6223r+9680e msec
at Wed Feb 19 10:59:42 EST 2025, update time of NWS radar image is Wed Feb 19 10:59:13 EST 2025, expire=Wed Feb 19 10:59:56 EST 2025
On the other (non-working) machine: I only see the first download and then the listed error: Wed Feb 19 11:16:32 EST 2025: downloading CONUS_L2_CREF_QCD_20250219_161441.tif.gz took 613d+7230r+8184e msec
at Wed Feb 19 11:16:32 EST 2025, update time of NWS radar image is Wed Feb 19 11:15:08 EST 2025, expire=Wed Feb 19 11:16:46 EST 2025
renderCurrentRaster: 1 files in 247msec @ zoom=1202457.5 1739981792875
renderCurrentMap[#1]: 60997(631215)/2419790 ways(0ur), 18/222335 nodes, 1 signs, 26 files(0 new,4 missing) in 10107msec @ zoom=1202457.5 [28.947521,-82.23135]
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
Wed Feb 19 11:36:34 EST 2025: try#0: connection to localhost/ lost: Socket closed
John, NX2I .
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John
This sounds like there's some kind of networking issue on your second computer. This can happen when the radar image refresh is attempted and fails. An error message should appear in the YAAC.out file in your log files directory (also viewable
in the Help->About dialog on the Error Log tab, and in the terminal window where you started YAAC if you used one). Whenever you successfully download a radar image, the log should report the refresh time (when NWS says the image will be out-of-date), so you
should be able to predict when YAAC will try to download the image again.
What build of YAAC are you using?
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
I have the current YAAC version running on different machines. On one ( a RPi 4) NWS raster overlay maps are displayed and refreshed every few minutes. On the other, (an x86 machine), the maps do not refresh. If I delete a previously loaded NWS map, and
manually load a new one, the map displays. Subsequent maps are not displayed. If I look at the "raster maps" window, I always find the enable box unchecked. This happens even though "enable" is checked after loading the first map. Have I mis-configured the
second machine somehow?
73, NX2I
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Re: inconsistent map behavior
This sounds like there's some kind of networking issue on your second computer. This can happen when the radar image refresh is attempted and fails. An error message should appear in the YAAC.out file in your log files directory (also viewable
in the Help->About dialog on the Error Log tab, and in the terminal window where you started YAAC if you used one). Whenever you successfully download a radar image, the log should report the refresh time (when NWS says the image will be out-of-date), so you
should be able to predict when YAAC will try to download the image again.
What build of YAAC are you using?
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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I have the current YAAC version running on different machines. On one ( a RPi 4) NWS raster overlay maps are displayed and refreshed every few minutes. On the other, (an x86 machine), the maps do not refresh. If I delete a previously loaded NWS map, and
manually load a new one, the map displays. Subsequent maps are not displayed. If I look at the "raster maps" window, I always find the enable box unchecked. This happens even though "enable" is checked after loading the first map. Have I mis-configured the
second machine somehow?
73, NX2I
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inconsistent map behavior
I have the current YAAC version running on different machines. On one ( a RPi 4) NWS raster overlay maps are displayed and refreshed every few minutes. On the other, (an x86 machine), the maps do not refresh. If I delete a previously loaded NWS map, and manually load a new one, the map displays. Subsequent maps are not displayed. If I look at the "raster maps" window, I always find the enable box unchecked. This happens even though "enable" is checked after loading the first map. Have I mis-configured the second machine somehow?
73, NX2I
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next beta build#208 of YAAC, created 2025-Feb-16
next beta build #208 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2025-Feb-16
downloadable from
changes and updates include:
1. set the position ambiguity correctly for raw GPS sentence position
messages.
2. fix distance unit selection in preferences tab of expert-mode
Configuration dialog so smaller versions of distance units for
various systems of units cannot be selected by accident, and
fix upgrader in case some user used the erroneous selection
ability to foul up their configuration.
3. ensure YAAC and its upgraders always consistently try to find
the correct path to the Java interpreter to ensure launching
of upgrade stages does not fail to start the next stage.
4. fix typo introduced in build#181 that broke the calculation of
Aloha circles.
5. when issuing the Locate->Station directive for a station whose
position is not currently known (and YAAC sends a directed query
to get the station's position), ensure that if the position
report is so delayed in responding that the user is no longer
viewing a map window in YAAC, the map is still updated with
the received location.
6. add error check to APRS Status packet configuration to warn users
if they are going to enable a status packet with text added to it,
or to use Maidenhead locator position in the Status packet that
report differently than the Position beacon packets also being sent.
7. fix configuration wizard to not re-create a duplicate of any GPS port
in use by YAAC every time the wizard is re-run.
8. fix the packet transmission logic against incorrectly digipeating
through a non-APRS port (such as the TAK plugin's port type).
9. fix symbol rendering for ATV symbol "/V" (means amateur television,
not all-terrain vehicle, which is overlay code "Ak").
10. add more entries to help index.
11. fix formatting errors in built-in help files.
12. release the timeslot usage analysis plugin, which provides extra
analysis views for determining RF channel usage.
13. add support of more APRS symbols in translating APRS packets to
CoT event messages.
14. fix the saving of team "color" selection in the TAK plugin.
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Hi Andrew, thanks for the info. I do have further questions though. Are there instructions for configuring an APRS-IS connection for NWS weather alerts? Where can I get the shape files?
Cheers, Tom kf6kyd
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On Feb 6, 2025, at 18:12, Andrew P. via groups.io <andrewemt@...> wrote:
Here's a few details on seeing severe weather zones:
1. You will only get severe weather alerts (forecasts) if you have an APRS-IS connection with a geographical radius (r/ or m/) or area (a/) filter large enough to include the relevant areas. These messages have position information in them to affect the filtering by the APRS-IS server, and come from a single Internet server that pushes the data from the National Weather Service onto APRS-IS.
2. The shapefiles for the 3 categories of severe weather zones need to be copied into your configured YAAC map tile directory. Just downloading them isn't enough if you don't unpack the .zip files into the correct directory.
3. You have to have Severe Weather Zones enabled on the View->Layers submenu. Note this won't prevent the zones from appearing in the Severe Weather table.
4. There actually have to _be_ severe weather events for the notifications to go out.
Note that it is possible to see other weather data that looks like severe weather alerts, but isn't. These are APRS Objects describing actual weather (such as thunderstorms, tornadoes, flooding, etc.), not forecasts, which also come from the APRS-IS, and commonly have NWS multilines attached to the Objects to draw polygons around the affected area. Rendering of the multilines is controlled by a different menu choice, View->Layers->NWS Multilines. These Objects do _not_ appear in the Severe Weather table, but will appear in the Stations/Objects List.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of T W via groups.io <kf6kyd@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 1:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] severe weather zones
How are you able to weather alerts? I have had no luck finding out how to do that.
On Feb 4, 2025, at 22:47, e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> wrote:
hi.
i don't get any info in the severe weather zones window. i think i downloaded all teh files from noaa. i do see the weather on the map.
Sincerely,
Eugene Mosqueda
Dominus Providebit
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Re: Weather beacon position over RF
#weather
Of course, this only works if you have a working Internet connection and the same for the Internet site you are sending your data to (the APRS-IS is highly redundant if you choose to use one of the regional rotate names rather than a single hard-coded server address; I can't speak for other weather-data-consuming services). My local ARES/RACES group has weather stations all over our county using RF to deliver the data to an I-gate physically located at the county Department of Emergency Services office, so they can get the data even if there are Internet outages (peeling it off before the I-gate sends it to the APRS-IS). Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Bill Gillenwater via groups.io <k3sv@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 11:10 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Weather beacon position over RF #weather Just some info. You can get your weather data broadcast over the internet and it will show on APRS just like an RF broadcast one. I can find the info and website I used. It’s a national weather link. 73 Bill On Feb 4, 2025, at 1:07?PM, Jamie Elovski via groups.io <jamiesastrophotos@...> wrote: ? Hi All, Maybe this has been asked but I cant find anything. I am trying to setup my RF port to beacon the weather and position but no matter what I do I cant get the weather to be beaconed with the position.
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Re: Weather beacon position over RF
#weather
There are a few things you have to do to have your weather data beaconed with your position reports. 1. You have to have a weather input port opened on YAAC that is receiving the weather data. Serial_Weather accepts serial port data from Peet Bros brand weather stations; WXNOW.TXT accepts weather from any weather station being handled by Cumulus or similar weather client software. In either case, use the View->Weather Status menu choice to confirm you are actually seeing current data from your local weather sensors in YAAC. 2. In your beacon definition, you have to enable your beacon and check the box to have it Report Weather. 3. Due to a quirk in the APRS Protocol Specification, the course and speed fields of a position report always mean the course and speed of the radio station, not the wind, unless the APRS symbol code is for a weather station (/_ or \_). YAAC is smart enough to recognize when you are using a non-weather-station symbol code that would cause your wind information to be lost, and will send the Position Report (without weather information) immediately followed by a Positionless Weather Report (which doesn't care what your symbol code is). This has the convenience that you could have a mobile weather station (e.g., stormchaser) reporting the course and speed of your chase vehicle in the Position Report, plus the weather data separately. YAAC, unfortunately, does not have support for the vector math necessary to convert air velocity around a moving vehicle into ground-relative wind velocity, so your weather sensors would have to do the math prior to delivering the data to YAAC. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Jamie Elovski via groups.io <jamiesastrophotos@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 11:49 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] Weather beacon position over RF #weather Hi All, Maybe this has been asked but I cant find anything. I am trying to setup my RF port to beacon the weather and position but no matter what I do I cant get the weather to be beaconed with the position.
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Re: Weather beacon position over RF
#weather
Just some info. You can get your weather data broadcast over the internet and it will show on APRS just like an RF broadcast one. I can find the info and website I used. It’s a national weather link.?
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On Feb 4, 2025, at 1:07?PM, Jamie Elovski via groups.io <jamiesastrophotos@...> wrote:
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Maybe this has been asked but I cant find anything. I am trying to setup my RF port to beacon the weather and position but no matter what I do I cant get the weather to be beaconed with the position.
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Here's a few details on seeing severe weather zones: 1. You will only get severe weather alerts (forecasts) if you have an APRS-IS connection with a geographical radius (r/ or m/) or area (a/) filter large enough to include the relevant areas. These messages have position information in them to affect the filtering by the APRS-IS server, and come from a single Internet server that pushes the data from the National Weather Service onto APRS-IS. 2. The shapefiles for the 3 categories of severe weather zones need to be copied into your configured YAAC map tile directory. Just downloading them isn't enough if you don't unpack the .zip files into the correct directory. 3. You have to have Severe Weather Zones enabled on the View->Layers submenu. Note this won't prevent the zones from appearing in the Severe Weather table. 4. There actually have to _be_ severe weather events for the notifications to go out. Note that it is possible to see other weather data that looks like severe weather alerts, but isn't. These are APRS Objects describing actual weather (such as thunderstorms, tornadoes, flooding, etc.), not forecasts, which also come from the APRS-IS, and commonly have NWS multilines attached to the Objects to draw polygons around the affected area. Rendering of the multilines is controlled by a different menu choice, View->Layers->NWS Multilines. These Objects do _not_ appear in the Severe Weather table, but will appear in the Stations/Objects List. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of T W via groups.io <kf6kyd@...> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 1:28 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] severe weather zones How are you able to weather alerts? I have had no luck finding out how to do that. On Feb 4, 2025, at 22:47, e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> wrote: hi. i don't get any info in the severe weather zones window. i think i downloaded all teh files from noaa. i do see the weather on the map. Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit
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Andrew,
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I feel like this classic applies:
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How are you able to weather alerts? I have had no luck finding out how to do that.
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On Feb 4, 2025, at 22:47, e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> wrote:
hi.
i don't get any info in the severe weather zones window.? i think i downloaded all teh files from noaa.? i do see the weather on the map.
Sincerely,
Eugene Mosqueda
Dominus Providebit
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hi.
i don't get any info in the severe weather zones window.? i think i downloaded all teh files from noaa.? i do see the weather on the map.
Sincerely,
Eugene Mosqueda
Dominus Providebit
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Weather beacon position over RF
#weather
Hi All,
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Maybe this has been asked but I cant find anything. I am trying to setup my RF port to beacon the weather and position but no matter what I do I cant get the weather to be beaconed with the position.
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Re: too many GPS icoms. WHY
Text messages are easy to send in YAAC. At the bottom of the map window is a selector to allow to specify the recipient (either from a drop-down list of stations you have heard, or just typing a callsign-SSID in), the digipeat path to use, and the text message you want to send. Then click the SND button. If you are going to be operating on HF, there are some things you need to do to be legally compliant. 1. Go into your beacon definition and set the Initial repeat rate to zero. Yes, zero. That means no automatic beaconing (which is prohibited in the 30-meter band by FCC regulation). If you want to send a beacon, you have to manually trigger it by pressing the BCN button on the map window toolbar, every single time you want to beacon. 2. In your Direwolf configuration file, you will have to change the modem settings to use 300 baud and a 200-Hz tone spacing. Even though the symbol rate limitation has been relaxed, that is still the convention for HF APRS. Faster modem speed will just be ignored (because no one will be listening for it), and will mark you as a lid. More information is on WA8LMF's page on HF APRS. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Niece KA1ULN via groups.io <ka1uln1@...> Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 8:08 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] too many GPS icoms. WHY yep tnx Drew.. that was it... I truly appreciate it. if you can tell me how to send messages would be the ultimate using raspberry pi os and direwolf and YAAC. HF aprs?
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Re: too many GPS icoms. WHY
yep? tnx? Drew.. that was? it...
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I truly appreciate it.
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if you can tell me how? to send messages? would? be the ultimate
using?? raspberry pi os and? direwolf and? YAAC.? HF? aprs?
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Ye gads! That's four days since I fixed the problem, and people are still seeing "no name" errors, when my domain is configured to expire in 8 _hours_ to require DNS resolvers to look it up again. There were times when I was updating the DNS records in my zone rapidly for research I was doing. _Someone_ out there is ignoring the settings on my domain and caching stale information far longer than the Internet RFCs say to; it certainly isn't _my_ DNS service. More reasons how the Internet is broken. hartmangj, who are you using for your DNS resolver? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of hartmangj via groups.io <hartmangj@...> Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 1:13 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Site Down? It's working now. I was getting the site not found DNS error. I even checked with just to make sure it wasn't just me and that website said it was down too. Now that it's back up I'm going to see if there is info on there to help me figure out how to use message filtering.
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Re: too many GPS icoms. WHY
How many times did you create another GPS port in your configuration? That includes re-running the configuration wizard and telling it to create another GPS connection.
Go to the menu choice File->Configuration->Expert-mode, then select the Ports tab. Each line in the displayed table corresponds to adding another port to your configuration. If a port is closed due to some error (e.g., unplugging a USB GPS puck),
you should fix the error for the existing port. Don't just create another port.
Since you have way too many, select one of the extra lines that does NOT correspond to your present GPS hookup and click the Delete button to remove that excess port from your configuration. Repeat until only ports corresponding to your actual
hardware, network, or software hookups (such as an AGWPE port to a Direwolf instance) remains.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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here is my current YAAC screen
running raspberry pi os.?
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why is there. so many gps icons?
see attached
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here is my current YAAC screen
running raspberry pi os.?
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why is there. so many gps icons?
see attached
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It's working now. I was getting the site not found DNS error. I even checked with https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/ka2ddo.org.html just to make sure it wasn't just me and that website said it was down too.
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Now that it's back up I'm going to see if there is info on there to help me figure out how to use message filtering.
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Jamie Elovski
Niece KA1ULN