Re: flitering to evaluate digipeater use/need
Regarding what your station digipeats or I-gates on behalf of someone else, that's somewhat easy. Look in your log directory (as defined on the General tab of the expert-mode Configure dialog) for your AX25xmit-yyyy-mm-dd.* files. It's easiest to read if you choose CSV format for your log files; then you can just load the log file into a spreadsheet program for searching and sorting. Every single packet your YAAC station sends (either to RF or the Internet, either for yourself or as a digipeater or I-gate for someone else) will be logged in these AX25xmit-* files. The CSV file format has 3 columns: 1. the UTC time the packet was transmitted (sent to your TNC or the APRS-IS gateway) in the format "dd/MMM/yyyy HH:mm:ss" 2. the type and name of the YAAC port doing the transmission (for example, "Serial_TNC: COM1[KA2DDO]" or "APRS-IS: noam.aprs2.net/167.114.2.176[KA2DDO]") 3. the actual packet in TNC-2 command-mode format. Note this may confuse spreadsheet programs if the original packet had double-quote characters in its message body. Note that YAAC never deletes these log files (not knowing the specific log retention regulations in any given Amateur Radio jurisdiction), so you may want to back them up and delete them yourself after a suitable period of time. As for who is hearing you, that will be somewhat more difficult. The only time you will receive back your own transmissions is if you are transmitting on RF and some other digipeater relays your transmissions; you might (but are not guaranteed to) receive that digi's re-transmission. As for all who are I-gating you, you can't figure that out. The APRS-IS backbone deliberately and intentionally deletes all but the first occurrence of any given packet, so the 2nd+ I-gate to forward the packet will be ignored. So you can look at your packet history on aprs.fi, but unless you have several nearby I-gates all of equal speed (so that any of them could be the first forwarder of your packets), you will only see the first/fastest I-gate (note that YAAC itself is a comparatively slow I-gate). And if you are beaconing your station to APRS-IS yourself, that will probably get there before any RF-linked I-gate could get it there, simply due to the RF transmission latency making the packet finish getting to the other I-gate after your own APRS-IS connection has already fully delivered the packet, so you won't see any other I-gate at all then. Sorry about the bad news re: self-tracking, but that's the way the network works. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of bill K7WXW <K7WXW@...> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2020 3:33 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] flitering to evaluate digipeater use/need While I have been using yaac (thanks Andrew!) for a couple of years, I just set up my fixed station to digipeat (WIDE1-1, trace enabled) and serve as an i-gate (tx and rcv). Looking at APRS.fi, it looks like a low power digi in my neighborhood might be helpful but I'd like to understand how it is acutally being used. Basically, I'd like to see a list of stations that my digi repeats or gates into or out of the internet. Secondarily, I'd like to build a filter that shows me what digis and i-gates are picking up my beacons. The goals are to understand whether putting up a digi and i-gate is useful and see the most likely paths between my digi and others in the area. IS to RF is easy, the tx-gate window does the job. But I should be able to do all these things by filtering the raw packets and I just can't seem to make filters work. Any help or pointers much appreciated. Thanks!
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flitering to evaluate digipeater use/need
While I have been using yaac (thanks Andrew!)? for a couple of years, I just set up my fixed station to digipeat (WIDE1-1, trace enabled) and serve as an i-gate (tx and rcv).? Looking at APRS.fi, it looks like a low power digi in my neighborhood might be helpful but I'd like to understand how it is acutally being used.? Basically, I'd like to see a list of stations that my digi repeats or gates into or out of the internet.?Secondarily, I'd like to build a filter that shows me what digis and i-gates are picking up my beacons.
The goals are to understand whether putting up a digi and i-gate is useful and see the most likely paths between my digi and others in the area. IS to RF is easy, the tx-gate window does the job. But I should be able to do all these things by filtering the raw packets and I just can't seem to make filters work. Any help or pointers much appreciated.? ? Thanks!
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Re: Beacon and Status message timing
Thanks for this James.? I think my problem lies elsewhere, if I do have a problem.? When yaac sends out my status message and weather beacons, both ultimately get to an igate as you can see in the snippet I provided but the status message repeats more often than the weather.? I confirmed this by looking at the AX25xmit files that Andrew asked me to look at.? Ideally I would like the two message types to roughly alternate and I thought that my timings provided for that.
WE have a very small RF network with not too many radios.
Joe VA3JLF
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Re: Beacon and Status message timing
If you want to know what your station is doing, watch the RF network. relies on the APRS-IS network for all of its information. The APRS-IS network is designed to delete all of the packets that contain duplicate payload information within a specified window of time. This removes a majority of the information that is available on the RF network. Much of the information that is deleted contains a great deal of evidence of how the local network is functioning.?
The APRS-IS network only sees the packets ?that are successfully decoded by the i-gates in the local area. Packet collisions can destroy local reception at the i-gate, which may have been able to be copied locally.?
Look to the local RF network for the truth.?
James VE6SRV
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 9:08 AM Joseph LaFerla < joe@...> wrote: Andrew
I have been looking at various settings of mine and I still cannot understand why my status message beacons more often than my weather beacon.? Is there a setting that I am missing?? Look at this output from .? It shows 2 weather beacons followed by 8 status messages.? ?According to my settings in the config, the weather beacon should be going out more often.
Thanks Andrew.
Joe VA3JLF
2020-08-05 09:27:06 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:@132702h4356.06N/07709.62W_232/000g003t069r000p012P000h67b10154?/A=295??21?Fennell?Crescent?Cherry?Valley?Wx?Station
2020-08-05 09:27:06 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:@132702h4356.06N/07709.62W_232/000g003t069r000p012P000h67b10154?/A=295??21?Fennell?Crescent?Cherry?Valley?Wx?Station?
2020-08-05 09:28:38 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 09:43:39 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 09:58:38 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:13:38 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:28:39 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:43:39 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:52:21 EDT:?>APJYC1,WIDE2-1,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:55:22 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3?
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Re: Hurricane Isaias took out my server
Power's back and my webserver is up again. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 9:06 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] Hurricane Isaias took out my server Greetings, all. For some reason, 20 hours after Hurricane Isaias left my area, my power went out, so the web server hosting YAAC-encoded map data is down. I'll let you all know when my power is back. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC
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Re: Beacon and Status message timing
Andrew
I have been looking at various settings of mine and I still cannot understand why my status message beacons more often than my weather beacon.? Is there a setting that I am missing?? Look at this output from aprs.fi.? It shows 2 weather beacons followed by 8 status messages.? ?According to my settings in the config, the weather beacon should be going out more often.
Thanks Andrew.
Joe VA3JLF
2020-08-05 09:27:06 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:@132702h4356.06N/07709.62W_232/000g003t069r000p012P000h67b10154?/A=295??21?Fennell?Crescent?Cherry?Valley?Wx?Station
2020-08-05 09:27:06 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:@132702h4356.06N/07709.62W_232/000g003t069r000p012P000h67b10154?/A=295??21?Fennell?Crescent?Cherry?Valley?Wx?Station?
2020-08-05 09:28:38 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 09:43:39 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 09:58:38 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:13:38 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:28:39 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:43:39 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:52:21 EDT:?>APJYC1,WIDE2-1,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3
2020-08-05 10:55:22 EDT:?>APJYC1,,WIDE2*,qAR,:>FN13kw?CumulusMX?on?a?Raspberry?Pi3?
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Hurricane Isaias took out my server
Greetings, all.
For some reason, 20 hours after Hurricane Isaias left my area, my power went out, so the web server hosting YAAC-encoded map data is down. I'll let you all know when my power is back.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
this is the latest Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
Odd that you don't have a n39 subdirectory (or did you just skip mentioning it?). What are the numbers on the files in those subdirectories? They should look like W83.ways, W83.nodes, and so forth (given the latitude and longitude you told me).
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 6:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
I sent a snip of my set screen, and although not wide ( and it wont go wider) I see 83.... west? and 42....north
the four folders are labelled n37 n38 n40 and n41.? yes there are files inside those folders..
i am not worrying yet about unchecking all the trees (lol)? ?and Buoys yet.? ?I would like to see a map first and have the local aprs hams show up in the correct position on my screen..
oh, and yes I have activity on my screen, just no map to follow where they are.
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:35 PM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>> wrote:
Pan or zoom the map a bit. It doesn't reliably recalculate the map when download is complete.
Also, did you download in the correct area? There have been bug reports when people downloaded using East longitude instead of West longitude, so they had no map data for Missouri but lots of data for Afghanistan (for example) cluttering up their disk drive. If you go to File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles again, the black rectangle should now have a clump of blue and/or white dots on it indicating 1x1-degree tiles for which you have downloaded map data. The upper-left quadrant of the rectangle covers North America and the Caribbean, the lower-left quadrant is South America, and the right half is the corresponding Eastern hemisphere of the globe. So, is that clump of dots in the correct place relative to where your station location would appear on a world map? Note that those 4 directories you pointed out should be named with the latitudes of the 1-degree chunks you downloaded. Since you have an Ontario Canada callsign prefix, I'm assuming you should have N43 and N44 directories (assuming you're around Toronto, although you might have N48 and N49 if you were in Thunder Bay).
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...<mailto:ve3wej@...>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 5:08 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
ok, I have 4 subfolders in the tiles subdirectory, but still no map
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:10 PM Dave Garber via <><> <ve3wej=[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
ok, if i select pre tiles, a window pops up, with info on it.
what is the next step from this
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...><mailto:andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>>> wrote:
No, that's the one that's probably going to melt your Pi, assuming you have enough non-SD-card storage to handle the import (an SD card can't handle the number of write cycles involved in an import), and are willing to wait a few days.
You should use File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, which allows you to bypass the painful and resource-intensive process of importing the PBF file into YAAC-format map data.
For performing the full-planet import, I use an 8-core 3.0 GHz gaming server with 36GB of RAM and a solid-state disk just for the DB index files (which has been replaced twice over the development lifetime of YAAC due to wearing it out from imports), and it still takes over 20 hours.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...<mailto:ve3wej@...><mailto:ve3wej@...<mailto:ve3wej@...>>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:52 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
ok, YAAC installed, downloading geofabrik north america pbf file.? ?should be done in about an hour or more
hope that the right one
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
Odd that you don't have a n39 subdirectory (or did you just skip mentioning it?). What are the numbers on the files in those subdirectories? They should look like W83.ways, W83.nodes, and so forth (given the latitude and longitude you told me). ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 6:29 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps I sent a snip of my set screen, and although not wide ( and it wont go wider) I see 83.... west and 42....north the four folders are labelled n37 n38 n40 and n41. yes there are files inside those folders.. i am not worrying yet about unchecking all the trees (lol) and Buoys yet. I would like to see a map first and have the local aprs hams show up in the correct position on my screen.. oh, and yes I have activity on my screen, just no map to follow where they are. Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:35 PM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>> wrote: Pan or zoom the map a bit. It doesn't reliably recalculate the map when download is complete. Also, did you download in the correct area? There have been bug reports when people downloaded using East longitude instead of West longitude, so they had no map data for Missouri but lots of data for Afghanistan (for example) cluttering up their disk drive. If you go to File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles again, the black rectangle should now have a clump of blue and/or white dots on it indicating 1x1-degree tiles for which you have downloaded map data. The upper-left quadrant of the rectangle covers North America and the Caribbean, the lower-left quadrant is South America, and the right half is the corresponding Eastern hemisphere of the globe. So, is that clump of dots in the correct place relative to where your station location would appear on a world map? Note that those 4 directories you pointed out should be named with the latitudes of the 1-degree chunks you downloaded. Since you have an Ontario Canada callsign prefix, I'm assuming you should have N43 and N44 directories (assuming you're around Toronto, although you might have N48 and N49 if you were in Thunder Bay). Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> < [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...<mailto:ve3wej@...>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 5:08 PM To: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps ok, I have 4 subfolders in the tiles subdirectory, but still no map Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:10 PM Dave Garber via groups.io<><> <ve3wej@...<mailto: [email protected]><mailto: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>>> wrote: ok, if i select pre tiles, a window pops up, with info on it. what is the next step from this Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...><mailto:andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>>> wrote: No, that's the one that's probably going to melt your Pi, assuming you have enough non-SD-card storage to handle the import (an SD card can't handle the number of write cycles involved in an import), and are willing to wait a few days. You should use File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, which allows you to bypass the painful and resource-intensive process of importing the PBF file into YAAC-format map data. For performing the full-planet import, I use an 8-core 3.0 GHz gaming server with 36GB of RAM and a solid-state disk just for the DB index files (which has been replaced twice over the development lifetime of YAAC due to wearing it out from imports), and it still takes over 20 hours. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]><mailto: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> < [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]><mailto: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>>> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...<mailto:ve3wej@...><mailto:ve3wej@...<mailto:ve3wej@...>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:52 PM To: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]><mailto: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps ok, YAAC installed, downloading geofabrik north america pbf file. should be done in about an hour or more hope that the right one Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
I sent a snip of my set screen, and although not wide ( and it wont go wider) I see 83.... west? and 42....north
the four folders are labelled n37 n38 n40 and n41.? yes there are files inside those folders..
i am not worrying yet about unchecking all the trees (lol)? ?and Buoys yet.? ?I would like to see a map first and have the local aprs hams show up in the correct position on my screen..
oh, and yes I have activity on my screen, just no map to follow where they are.
Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
Pan or zoom the map a bit. It doesn't reliably recalculate the map when download is complete.
Also, did you download in the correct area? There have been bug reports when people downloaded using East longitude instead of West longitude, so they had no map data for Missouri but lots of data for Afghanistan (for example) cluttering up their disk drive. If you go to File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles again, the black rectangle should now have a clump of blue and/or white dots on it indicating 1x1-degree tiles for which you have downloaded map data. The upper-left quadrant of the rectangle covers North America and the Caribbean, the lower-left quadrant is South America, and the right half is the corresponding Eastern hemisphere of the globe. So, is that clump of dots in the correct place relative to where your station location would appear on a world map? Note that those 4 directories you pointed out should be named with the latitudes of the 1-degree chunks you downloaded. Since you have an Ontario Canada callsign prefix, I'm assuming you should have N43 and N44 directories (assuming you're around Toronto, although you might have N48 and N49 if you were in Thunder Bay).
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 5:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
ok, I have 4 subfolders in the tiles subdirectory, but still no map
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:10 PM Dave Garber via <> <ve3wej=[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
ok, if i select pre tiles, a window pops up, with info on it.
what is the next step from this
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>> wrote:
No, that's the one that's probably going to melt your Pi, assuming you have enough non-SD-card storage to handle the import (an SD card can't handle the number of write cycles involved in an import), and are willing to wait a few days.
You should use File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, which allows you to bypass the painful and resource-intensive process of importing the PBF file into YAAC-format map data.
For performing the full-planet import, I use an 8-core 3.0 GHz gaming server with 36GB of RAM and a solid-state disk just for the DB index files (which has been replaced twice over the development lifetime of YAAC due to wearing it out from imports), and it still takes over 20 hours.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...<mailto:ve3wej@...>>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:52 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
ok, YAAC installed, downloading geofabrik north america pbf file.? ?should be done in about an hour or more
hope that the right one
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: Sending Winlink messages
Hmmm... Yep, their documentation was a little misleading. The message format they send isn't what YAAC was expecting. Next build will match the example you showed me. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Bill AA6BD <bill@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 6:00 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Sending Winlink messages This video shows the dialog for passwords. --Bill AA6BD
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Re: Sending Winlink messages
This video
shows the dialog for passwords.
--Bill AA6BD
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
The next step is to select the area you wish to download by center position and radius (for example, 200 kilometers around your lat/lon), and click OK. Before you click OK, you can optionally use the filters to get rid of map data types you may not care about (such as Nodes for individual trees, or administrative/political boundary Ways) and don't want to waste disk storage and CPU time on rendering. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 4:10 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps ok, if i select pre tiles, a window pops up, with info on it. what is the next step from this Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>> wrote: No, that's the one that's probably going to melt your Pi, assuming you have enough non-SD-card storage to handle the import (an SD card can't handle the number of write cycles involved in an import), and are willing to wait a few days. You should use File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, which allows you to bypass the painful and resource-intensive process of importing the PBF file into YAAC-format map data. For performing the full-planet import, I use an 8-core 3.0 GHz gaming server with 36GB of RAM and a solid-state disk just for the DB index files (which has been replaced twice over the development lifetime of YAAC due to wearing it out from imports), and it still takes over 20 hours. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> < [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...<mailto:ve3wej@...>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:52 PM To: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps ok, YAAC installed, downloading geofabrik north america pbf file. should be done in about an hour or more hope that the right one Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
Pan or zoom the map a bit. It doesn't reliably recalculate the map when download is complete. Also, did you download in the correct area? There have been bug reports when people downloaded using East longitude instead of West longitude, so they had no map data for Missouri but lots of data for Afghanistan (for example) cluttering up their disk drive. If you go to File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles again, the black rectangle should now have a clump of blue and/or white dots on it indicating 1x1-degree tiles for which you have downloaded map data. The upper-left quadrant of the rectangle covers North America and the Caribbean, the lower-left quadrant is South America, and the right half is the corresponding Eastern hemisphere of the globe. So, is that clump of dots in the correct place relative to where your station location would appear on a world map? Note that those 4 directories you pointed out should be named with the latitudes of the 1-degree chunks you downloaded. Since you have an Ontario Canada callsign prefix, I'm assuming you should have N43 and N44 directories (assuming you're around Toronto, although you might have N48 and N49 if you were in Thunder Bay). Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 5:08 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps ok, I have 4 subfolders in the tiles subdirectory, but still no map Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:10 PM Dave Garber via groups.io<> <ve3wej@...<mailto: [email protected]>> wrote: ok, if i select pre tiles, a window pops up, with info on it. what is the next step from this Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:00 PM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>> wrote: No, that's the one that's probably going to melt your Pi, assuming you have enough non-SD-card storage to handle the import (an SD card can't handle the number of write cycles involved in an import), and are willing to wait a few days. You should use File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, which allows you to bypass the painful and resource-intensive process of importing the PBF file into YAAC-format map data. For performing the full-planet import, I use an 8-core 3.0 GHz gaming server with 36GB of RAM and a solid-state disk just for the DB index files (which has been replaced twice over the development lifetime of YAAC due to wearing it out from imports), and it still takes over 20 hours. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> < [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]>> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...<mailto:ve3wej@...>> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:52 PM To: [email protected]<mailto: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps ok, YAAC installed, downloading geofabrik north america pbf file. should be done in about an hour or more hope that the right one Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
ok, I have 4 subfolders in the tiles subdirectory, but still no map
Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
ok, if i select pre tiles, a window pops up, with info on it.? ?
what is the next step from this Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
No, that's the one that's probably going to melt your Pi, assuming you have enough non-SD-card storage to handle the import (an SD card can't handle the number of write cycles involved in an import), and are willing to wait a few days.
You should use File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, which allows you to bypass the painful and resource-intensive process of importing the PBF file into YAAC-format map data.
For performing the full-planet import, I use an 8-core 3.0 GHz gaming server with 36GB of RAM and a solid-state disk just for the DB index files (which has been replaced twice over the development lifetime of YAAC due to wearing it out from imports), and it still takes over 20 hours.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
ok, YAAC installed, downloading geofabrik north america pbf file.? ?should be done in about an hour or more
hope that the right one
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
ok, if i select pre tiles, a window pops up, with info on it.? ?
what is the next step from this Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
No, that's the one that's probably going to melt your Pi, assuming you have enough non-SD-card storage to handle the import (an SD card can't handle the number of write cycles involved in an import), and are willing to wait a few days.
You should use File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, which allows you to bypass the painful and resource-intensive process of importing the PBF file into YAAC-format map data.
For performing the full-planet import, I use an 8-core 3.0 GHz gaming server with 36GB of RAM and a solid-state disk just for the DB index files (which has been replaced twice over the development lifetime of YAAC due to wearing it out from imports), and it still takes over 20 hours.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
ok, YAAC installed, downloading geofabrik north america pbf file.? ?should be done in about an hour or more
hope that the right one
Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
No, that's the one that's probably going to melt your Pi, assuming you have enough non-SD-card storage to handle the import (an SD card can't handle the number of write cycles involved in an import), and are willing to wait a few days. You should use File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, which allows you to bypass the painful and resource-intensive process of importing the PBF file into YAAC-format map data. For performing the full-planet import, I use an 8-core 3.0 GHz gaming server with 36GB of RAM and a solid-state disk just for the DB index files (which has been replaced twice over the development lifetime of YAAC due to wearing it out from imports), and it still takes over 20 hours. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Dave Garber <ve3wej@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:52 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps ok, YAAC installed, downloading geofabrik north america pbf file. should be done in about an hour or more hope that the right one Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
ok, YAAC installed, downloading geofabrik north america pbf file.? ?should be done in about an hour or more hope that the right one
Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
I will install again on the Rpi3+, and advise of any errors, and I will be sure to wait the 10 minutes, at least
will advise, soon
Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
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Re: java heap error message on rasp pi 3 when trying to download maps
Tha is what I did, except in my case I did it on a Mac. ?It worked without any fuss.
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On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Dave Garber < ve3wej@...> wrote:
I am the one Chris was referring to. I am trying to download 100 kms radius. ? here is a copy of my captured screen...? ?not really an error, it just will not proceed to download can I download via windows, then copy files to a raspberry folder
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