Hi Andrew, thanks for the info. I do have further questions though. Are there instructions for configuring an APRS-IS connection for NWS weather alerts? Where can I get the shape files?
Cheers, Tom kf6kyd
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On Feb 6, 2025, at 18:12, Andrew P. via groups.io <andrewemt@...> wrote:
Here's a few details on seeing severe weather zones:
1. You will only get severe weather alerts (forecasts) if you have an APRS-IS connection with a geographical radius (r/ or m/) or area (a/) filter large enough to include the relevant areas. These messages have position information in them to affect the filtering by the APRS-IS server, and come from a single Internet server that pushes the data from the National Weather Service onto APRS-IS.
2. The shapefiles for the 3 categories of severe weather zones need to be copied into your configured YAAC map tile directory. Just downloading them isn't enough if you don't unpack the .zip files into the correct directory.
3. You have to have Severe Weather Zones enabled on the View->Layers submenu. Note this won't prevent the zones from appearing in the Severe Weather table.
4. There actually have to _be_ severe weather events for the notifications to go out.
Note that it is possible to see other weather data that looks like severe weather alerts, but isn't. These are APRS Objects describing actual weather (such as thunderstorms, tornadoes, flooding, etc.), not forecasts, which also come from the APRS-IS, and commonly have NWS multilines attached to the Objects to draw polygons around the affected area. Rendering of the multilines is controlled by a different menu choice, View->Layers->NWS Multilines. These Objects do _not_ appear in the Severe Weather table, but will appear in the Stations/Objects List.
Hope this helps.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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How are you able to weather alerts? I have had no luck finding out how to do that.
On Feb 4, 2025, at 22:47, e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> wrote:
hi.
i don't get any info in the severe weather zones window. i think i downloaded all teh files from noaa. i do see the weather on the map.
Sincerely,
Eugene Mosqueda
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Re: Weather beacon position over RF
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Of course, this only works if you have a working Internet connection and the same for the Internet site you are sending your data to (the APRS-IS is highly redundant if you choose to use one of the regional rotate names rather than a single hard-coded server address; I can't speak for other weather-data-consuming services). My local ARES/RACES group has weather stations all over our county using RF to deliver the data to an I-gate physically located at the county Department of Emergency Services office, so they can get the data even if there are Internet outages (peeling it off before the I-gate sends it to the APRS-IS). Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Bill Gillenwater via groups.io <k3sv@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 11:10 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Weather beacon position over RF #weather Just some info. You can get your weather data broadcast over the internet and it will show on APRS just like an RF broadcast one. I can find the info and website I used. It’s a national weather link. 73 Bill On Feb 4, 2025, at 1:07?PM, Jamie Elovski via groups.io <jamiesastrophotos@...> wrote: ? Hi All, Maybe this has been asked but I cant find anything. I am trying to setup my RF port to beacon the weather and position but no matter what I do I cant get the weather to be beaconed with the position.
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Re: Weather beacon position over RF
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There are a few things you have to do to have your weather data beaconed with your position reports. 1. You have to have a weather input port opened on YAAC that is receiving the weather data. Serial_Weather accepts serial port data from Peet Bros brand weather stations; WXNOW.TXT accepts weather from any weather station being handled by Cumulus or similar weather client software. In either case, use the View->Weather Status menu choice to confirm you are actually seeing current data from your local weather sensors in YAAC. 2. In your beacon definition, you have to enable your beacon and check the box to have it Report Weather. 3. Due to a quirk in the APRS Protocol Specification, the course and speed fields of a position report always mean the course and speed of the radio station, not the wind, unless the APRS symbol code is for a weather station (/_ or \_). YAAC is smart enough to recognize when you are using a non-weather-station symbol code that would cause your wind information to be lost, and will send the Position Report (without weather information) immediately followed by a Positionless Weather Report (which doesn't care what your symbol code is). This has the convenience that you could have a mobile weather station (e.g., stormchaser) reporting the course and speed of your chase vehicle in the Position Report, plus the weather data separately. YAAC, unfortunately, does not have support for the vector math necessary to convert air velocity around a moving vehicle into ground-relative wind velocity, so your weather sensors would have to do the math prior to delivering the data to YAAC. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Jamie Elovski via groups.io <jamiesastrophotos@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 11:49 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] Weather beacon position over RF #weather Hi All, Maybe this has been asked but I cant find anything. I am trying to setup my RF port to beacon the weather and position but no matter what I do I cant get the weather to be beaconed with the position.
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Just some info. You can get your weather data broadcast over the internet and it will show on APRS just like an RF broadcast one. I can find the info and website I used. It’s a national weather link.?
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? Hi All,
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Maybe this has been asked but I cant find anything. I am trying to setup my RF port to beacon the weather and position but no matter what I do I cant get the weather to be beaconed with the position.
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Here's a few details on seeing severe weather zones: 1. You will only get severe weather alerts (forecasts) if you have an APRS-IS connection with a geographical radius (r/ or m/) or area (a/) filter large enough to include the relevant areas. These messages have position information in them to affect the filtering by the APRS-IS server, and come from a single Internet server that pushes the data from the National Weather Service onto APRS-IS. 2. The shapefiles for the 3 categories of severe weather zones need to be copied into your configured YAAC map tile directory. Just downloading them isn't enough if you don't unpack the .zip files into the correct directory. 3. You have to have Severe Weather Zones enabled on the View->Layers submenu. Note this won't prevent the zones from appearing in the Severe Weather table. 4. There actually have to _be_ severe weather events for the notifications to go out. Note that it is possible to see other weather data that looks like severe weather alerts, but isn't. These are APRS Objects describing actual weather (such as thunderstorms, tornadoes, flooding, etc.), not forecasts, which also come from the APRS-IS, and commonly have NWS multilines attached to the Objects to draw polygons around the affected area. Rendering of the multilines is controlled by a different menu choice, View->Layers->NWS Multilines. These Objects do _not_ appear in the Severe Weather table, but will appear in the Stations/Objects List. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of T W via groups.io <kf6kyd@...> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2025 1:28 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] severe weather zones How are you able to weather alerts? I have had no luck finding out how to do that. On Feb 4, 2025, at 22:47, e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> wrote: hi. i don't get any info in the severe weather zones window. i think i downloaded all teh files from noaa. i do see the weather on the map. Sincerely, Eugene Mosqueda Dominus Providebit
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Andrew,
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How are you able to weather alerts? I have had no luck finding out how to do that.
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On Feb 4, 2025, at 22:47, e m via groups.io <delivers1234@...> wrote:
hi.
i don't get any info in the severe weather zones window.? i think i downloaded all teh files from noaa.? i do see the weather on the map.
Sincerely,
Eugene Mosqueda
Dominus Providebit
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hi.
i don't get any info in the severe weather zones window.? i think i downloaded all teh files from noaa.? i do see the weather on the map.
Sincerely,
Eugene Mosqueda
Dominus Providebit
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Weather beacon position over RF
#weather
Hi All,
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Maybe this has been asked but I cant find anything. I am trying to setup my RF port to beacon the weather and position but no matter what I do I cant get the weather to be beaconed with the position.
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Re: too many GPS icoms. WHY
Text messages are easy to send in YAAC. At the bottom of the map window is a selector to allow to specify the recipient (either from a drop-down list of stations you have heard, or just typing a callsign-SSID in), the digipeat path to use, and the text message you want to send. Then click the SND button. If you are going to be operating on HF, there are some things you need to do to be legally compliant. 1. Go into your beacon definition and set the Initial repeat rate to zero. Yes, zero. That means no automatic beaconing (which is prohibited in the 30-meter band by FCC regulation). If you want to send a beacon, you have to manually trigger it by pressing the BCN button on the map window toolbar, every single time you want to beacon. 2. In your Direwolf configuration file, you will have to change the modem settings to use 300 baud and a 200-Hz tone spacing. Even though the symbol rate limitation has been relaxed, that is still the convention for HF APRS. Faster modem speed will just be ignored (because no one will be listening for it), and will mark you as a lid. More information is on WA8LMF's page on HF APRS. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Niece KA1ULN via groups.io <ka1uln1@...> Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 8:08 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] too many GPS icoms. WHY yep tnx Drew.. that was it... I truly appreciate it. if you can tell me how to send messages would be the ultimate using raspberry pi os and direwolf and YAAC. HF aprs?
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yep? tnx? Drew.. that was? it...
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I truly appreciate it.
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if you can tell me how? to send messages? would? be the ultimate
using?? raspberry pi os and? direwolf and? YAAC.? HF? aprs?
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Ye gads! That's four days since I fixed the problem, and people are still seeing "no name" errors, when my domain is configured to expire in 8 _hours_ to require DNS resolvers to look it up again. There were times when I was updating the DNS records in my zone rapidly for research I was doing. _Someone_ out there is ignoring the settings on my domain and caching stale information far longer than the Internet RFCs say to; it certainly isn't _my_ DNS service. More reasons how the Internet is broken. hartmangj, who are you using for your DNS resolver? Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of hartmangj via groups.io <hartmangj@...> Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 1:13 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Site Down? It's working now. I was getting the site not found DNS error. I even checked with just to make sure it wasn't just me and that website said it was down too. Now that it's back up I'm going to see if there is info on there to help me figure out how to use message filtering.
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Re: too many GPS icoms. WHY
How many times did you create another GPS port in your configuration? That includes re-running the configuration wizard and telling it to create another GPS connection.
Go to the menu choice File->Configuration->Expert-mode, then select the Ports tab. Each line in the displayed table corresponds to adding another port to your configuration. If a port is closed due to some error (e.g., unplugging a USB GPS puck),
you should fix the error for the existing port. Don't just create another port.
Since you have way too many, select one of the extra lines that does NOT correspond to your present GPS hookup and click the Delete button to remove that excess port from your configuration. Repeat until only ports corresponding to your actual
hardware, network, or software hookups (such as an AGWPE port to a Direwolf instance) remains.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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here is my current YAAC screen
running raspberry pi os.?
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why is there. so many gps icons?
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here is my current YAAC screen
running raspberry pi os.?
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why is there. so many gps icons?
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It's working now. I was getting the site not found DNS error. I even checked with https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/ka2ddo.org.html just to make sure it wasn't just me and that website said it was down too.
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Now that it's back up I'm going to see if there is info on there to help me figure out how to use message filtering.
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Oops. Works fine when I use the right callsign.
Sorry about that.
Michael WA7SKG
Michael WA7SKG wrote on 2/2/25 18:17:
> Down for me, too. As of 0216Z 2/3/2025.
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wrote on 2/2/25 17:58:
>> That's peculiar. I updated the security information for the domain
>> names several days ago and it began working again immediately. What
>> error message are you getting from your browser?
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>> Andrew, KA2DDO
>> author of YAAC
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of
>> hartmangj via
<hartmangj@...>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2025 7:35 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Site Down?
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>> It appears that the website is still down.
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Oops. Works fine when I use the right callsign.
Sorry about that.
Michael WA7SKG
Michael WA7SKG wrote on 2/2/25 18:17:
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Down for me, too. As of 0216Z 2/3/2025.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. via groups.io wrote on 2/2/25 17:58:
That's peculiar. I updated the security information for the domain
names several days ago and it began working again immediately. What
error message are you getting from your browser?
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
hartmangj via groups.io <hartmangj@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2025 7:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Site Down?
It appears that the website is still down.
Glenn, WA3Z
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Works from Canada, no 25% tariffs added on yet either!?
First thing, it's not , it's kA2ddo.org.
Try that and see if it works.
Andrew, KA2DDO
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Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2025 9:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Site Down?
Down for me, too. As of 0216Z 2/3/2025.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. via wrote on 2/2/25 17:58:
> That's peculiar. I updated the security information for the domain names several days ago and it began working again immediately. What error message are you getting from your browser?
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> Andrew, KA2DDO
> author of YAAC
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> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of hartmangj via <hartmangj=[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2025 7:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Site Down?
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> It appears that the website is still down.
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First thing, it's not kd2ddo.org, it's kA2ddo.org. Try that and see if it works. Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...> Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2025 9:17 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Site Down? Down for me, too. As of 0216Z 2/3/2025. Michael WA7SKG Andrew P. via groups.io wrote on 2/2/25 17:58: That's peculiar. I updated the security information for the domain names several days ago and it began working again immediately. What error message are you getting from your browser?
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of hartmangj via groups.io <hartmangj@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2025 7:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Site Down?
It appears that the website is still down.
Glenn, WA3Z
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Down for me, too. As of 0216Z 2/3/2025.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. via groups.io wrote on 2/2/25 17:58:
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That's peculiar. I updated the security information for the domain names several days ago and it began working again immediately. What error message are you getting from your browser?
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of hartmangj via groups.io <hartmangj@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2025 7:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Site Down?
It appears that the website is still down.
Glenn, WA3Z
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