Re: next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07
Andrew,
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YAAC is beaconing thank you. ?How do I get it to digipeate?
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Then I am off and ready for the bike race. ?I have the course loaded and the all the reststops too.?
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Typical no-beacon reasons: 1. The beacon record isn't enabled (on the Beacon tab in expert-mode configuration). 2. The RF port (AGWPE, Serial_TNC, etc.) is not configured for transmit-enabled. 3. The RF port is not associated with the named beacon record (for multi-RF-port configurations with different beacons for each port). 4. The PTT isn't correctly configured in your software TNC. 5. The PTT signal path isn't correctly wired to the radio. 6. The PTT polarity isn't set correctly. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Tim Huffaker <thuffaker@...> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 9:29 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] No Beacon I running YAAC after a long while for the yearly bicycle event. I noticed when I select BCN after was able to update YAAC it will not transmit a beacon. I checked the normal suspects but cannot get it work. My packet engine is direwolf running as a Kiss TNC. What are the common reasons YAAC will not beacon to help find my error. Tim KM4ESU
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Have you examined the files in YAAC/logdir ?
On 9/17/24 18:29, Tim Huffaker via
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I running YAAC after a long while for the yearly bicycle
event. ?I noticed when I select BCN after was able to update
YAAC it will not transmit a beacon. I checked the normal
suspects but cannot get it work. ?My packet engine is direwolf
running as a Kiss TNC.?
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What are the common reasons YAAC will not beacon to help find
my error. ?
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Tim
KM4ESU
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I running YAAC after a long while for the yearly bicycle event. ?I noticed when I select BCN after was able to update YAAC it will not transmit a beacon. I checked the normal suspects but cannot get it work. ?My packet engine is direwolf running as a Kiss TNC.?
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I also have tried sending APRS messages too and on this I see the RF go red but nothing is transmitted. ?
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What are the common reasons YAAC will not beacon to help find my error. ?
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Tim
KM4ESU
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Re: next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07
You have to run the upgrade through to completion. While running your old version of YAAC, choose the menu entry Help->Check for Updates. If it finds a newer version, it will see if your system allows upgrading (it may not, depending on how the old version was installed; perhaps with a different user account such as "root" so the user running YAAC now doesn't have permissions to overwrite it), and, if OK, download the YAAC.zip file. It will then ask you if you want to run the upgrader. If you don't run the upgrader, the YAAC.zip file won't be unpacked to upgrade your existing installation. When the upgrader is finished, you don't have to let it start the new version of YAAC for you, although you can. I always start the new version manually from a command shell window (not by clicking an icon), so I can see if there are any unexpected error messages. But the important part is not only downloading the new version, but installing it over the old version. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Tim Huffaker <thuffaker@...> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 8:52 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07 Andrew, Yes, it is bike ride time again. I am trying to upgrade YAAC, and I have an Icon on my desktop to launch YAAC. Unfortunately, the icon does not call up the new software. How can I get the icon to call up the new version of YAAC? Thank you for your wonder program. Tim KM4ESU
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Re: next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07
Andrew,
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I left off my icon file.?
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[Desktop Entry]
Name=YAAC
Exec=/usr/bin/java -jar /home/pi/YAAC/YAAC.jar
Comment=Yet Another APRS Client
Icon=/home/pi/YAAC/images/yaaclogo64.ico
Path=/home/pi/YAAC
Terminal=true
Type=Application
Categories=HamRadio
Keywords=Ham Radio;APRS Client;KISS;AGWPE;AX.25
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Re: next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07
Andrew,
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Yes, it is bike ride time again. ?I am trying to upgrade YAAC, and I have an Icon on my desktop to launch YAAC. ?Unfortunately, the icon does not call up the new software. ?How can I get the icon to call up the new version of YAAC?
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Thank you for your wonder program.
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Tim?
KM4ESU
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Re: beacon button remains grey
I presume you used the wizard to do your initial configuration. In that case, the wizard only pulls in around 100km radius of 1-degree tiles of map data; if that happens to be part-way across a tile, the whole tile is pulled in. This is reasonable as a default, since APRS is a local tactical protocol, so you wouldn't be able to hear RF stations much further away unless you have an unusual digipeater environment. But if you want to pull in more, go to the menu choice File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, and specify the radius you want to pull in, and let YAAC pull the larger quantity of tiles from my server. As for the beacon button being gray, on the last panel of the wizard (Finish Configuring Beacon), did you check the "Enable station beacon" checkbox? If you didn't, then you can't send beacons, because you configured YAAC to not do so. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of SV?SGS via groups.io <sv0sgs@...> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2024 7:09 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] beacon button remains grey Hello! It looks like I have direwolf and the latest yaac set up correctly. no error messages. i have configured both tcp-ip and agwpe ports and connected my HT via cable to the audio input/output of my laptop. I am running windoz 10 for this exercise. The beacon button remains grey. What have I missed? Also, when I zoom out on the map, the tiles are not filled in. See pic below: [cid: [email protected]] how can i get yaac to fill in the tiles so that i can view a larger map area? thanks in advance for anyone's help. vy 73 david sv0sgs
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beacon button remains grey
Hello!? It looks like I have direwolf and the latest yaac set up correctly. no error messages.? i have configured both tcp-ip and agwpe ports and connected my HT via cable to the audio input/output of my laptop.? I am running windoz 10 for this exercise.? The beacon button remains grey.? What have I missed?
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Also, when I zoom out on the map, the tiles are not filled in.? See pic below:
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how can i get yaac to fill in the tiles so that i can view a larger map area?
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thanks in advance for anyone's help.
vy 73 david sv0sgs
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That "connect timed out" error says there is no AGWPE server (AGWPE, DireWolf, SoundModem, etc.) running at the port and non-local Internet address you specified in your port configuration. This could be due to: 1. a firewall setting on the remote computer (or the path to it), not permitting outside access to the specified port and just dropping the connection request rather than sending back a "connection refused" ICMP packet, or 2. the specified computer does not exist at all. This configured behavior of firewalls is becoming more common with Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) and network mapping attacks becoming more prevalent. You should never see this error if you are running the AGWPE server on your local computer where YAAC is running, as the firewall there shouldn't prevent you from talking to services on your own computer, but you could see the "connection refused" or "no such port" error if the software TNC program wasn't running when YAAC tried to connect to it. For convenience, if you are running the software TNC on the same computer as YAAC, you should always use the "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" loopback address for the AGWPE server, rather than the network address the router assigned to your computer with DHCP. It is entirely possible for the router to change the address assigned to your computer without notice to you the human, and suddenly YAAC will think the AGWPE server is running somewhere else and try to reach the network address your computer used to use. Note you don't use the AGWPE port type to connect to the APRS-IS Internet backbone; you use the APRS-IS port type instead. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of SV?SGS via groups.io <sv0sgs@...> Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2024 3:40 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [yaac-users] problem with java hello! I wanted to use yaack and configure an agwpe port but got this error: [cid: [email protected]] I am using the most current version of yaack and java. my os is windows 10. can someone help me out here? vy 73 David SV0SGS
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hello! ?I wanted to use yaack and configure an agwpe port but got this error:
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I am using the most current version of yaack and java.? my
os is windows 10. can someone help me out here?
vy 73
David SV0SGS
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next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07
next beta build#202 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2024-Sep-07
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changes and updates include:
1. fix hanging condition in marineports plugin's NMEA0183-over-TCP driver
(library code in core YAAC contributed to the problem).
2. fix some incorrect Javadoc comments in the source code.
3. stop rendering locally-created APRS Objects on the map when displaying
Objects is conditionally suppressed in a YAAC display.
4. fix Edit Filter dialog so that red dot on tabs will appear initially
if a filter on that tab is already restricting the packets and stations
viewed.
5. fix sorting problems on View Local Objects table.
6. conserve storage in imported OSM way files where the Way is identified
as being some sort of amenity type instead of a road or waterway.
7. fix message content filter UI to not place the controls for setting
ambiguity bounds off the screen.
8. fix recognition of some non-standard OSM amenity type values when
importing OSM data into YAAC.
9. add support for the OSM Boundary type "timezone" and the Emergency type
"water_rescue_station". add more OSM amenity types from allowed
value additions to the "man_made" and "building" keys.
10. fix OSM import processing when multiple tags provide amenity type values
and/or the provided values are multiple for a single tag.
11. improve error messages from the JSON message parser when a JSON source
is providing invalid JSON text.
12. fix versioning error for persisted routes in dynamic objects plugin.
UNFORTUNATELY, this is not backwards-compatible, so you will have to
manually delete the old persisted routes from the $HOME/YAAC/routes
directory, and re-load them into YAAC. But now you will not have
issues from further updates to the dynamicobjects plugin.
13. make Ant build.xml file for the ms150utils utility consistent with other
build.xml files in YAAC, having the default target of PACKAGE to build
everything in the module.
14. remove use of the dated.tile.dir override Java property, and allow the
user to select from the GUI older available versions of the imported
OSM data in case of incompatible YAAC structure version or OSM
database vandalism.
14. add logic to allow recreating all window menus when a plugin is installed.
15. add logic to permit removing menu entries for simplified training version
of YAAC (training plugin not yet written).
16. on tile downloading dialogs, don't enable the "refresh all tiles" checkbox
unless there are existing tiles to refresh (preventing user complaints
they never got any tiles downloaded).
17. improve OSM map searches for propagation obstructions.
18. support enlarging the size of the ID field for OSM Ways to prepare for
future growth in way ID numbers, rather than having incompatibility
in the future.
19. fix help lookup code to support possible help file locale plugins.
20. merge Uri DO7HBL's corrections to the German locale translation of
YAAC's UI text.
21. fix OSM rendering of islands in the ocean.
22. fix logic errors in AREDN Objects plugin, fix interconnections view
to not scroll the left-column node names away when scrolling
horizontally. fix race conditions in the AREDN plugin.
23. upgrade Apache compress and POI libraries to latest versions.
24. fix the demo plugin so changing the sequence of slides actually will
update the running demonstration without having to stop the demo
or YAAC itself.
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Watching marine traffic (was: Re: [yaac-users] What a coooooool tool!!!)
Jamie, The capability of AIS tracking in YAAC already exists. You will need to use DireWolf 1.7 or later, configured to use the AIS modem instead of the AX.25 packet modem, and connect it to a radio capable of tuning the appropriate VHF marine channels and providing direct discriminator tap-off for wide-bandwidth audio (all of this is written up in documentation provided with DireWolf). Then in YAAC, you install the AISDecoder plugin, and connect YAAC to the AIS-configured instance of DireWolf the same way you would to an AX.25-configured DireWolf instance using a AGWPE or KISS-over-TCP port type. Received marine vessel transmissions will now be mapped into map objects conceptually the same way ADS-B frames are mapped to aircraft symbols, and a new choice on the View menu will display a tabular list of all tracked vessels. There is no reason (other than the amount of memory, CPU power, and USB connections on your computer) why you can't use the ADSB plugin and the AIS plugin simultaneously. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Jamie H Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [yaac-users] What a coooooool tool!!! I need to find out how to track marine traffic and then see if Andrew might add that plug in. I know that APRS.fi has it but that requires internet.? Thank to you all and thanks again Andrew! Jamie Hughes WA7JH
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
Happy hump day all,
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My real intent was to call out Andrew for making such a cool tool.
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I only included the services and the link as to show I was successful, and if I can do it, well, most others can toooooo.
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Why I have gone down the APRS YAAC rabbit hole is related to a local effort that has lots of odd requirements during emergencies.
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Here is what stands YAAC out for me.
- Is cross platform. – Anyone can use it.
- It’s cross connective. – It can connect to several sources of APRS data.
- This could include moving to a nonstandard frequency for operation if things need to be a little less congested.
- It’s internet independent. – All the important features can be locally cashed to include maps.
- It’s voiceless. – Adding objects (downed tress or power lines, or broken water mains, etc) can be published
as objects that require no voice and include lots of quick details that can be added.
- When the object is created (or updated), there’s a time stamp.
- It can have comments so that others can review them as needed.
- It can be modified by others or at least this is supposed to be an APRS thing, and it appears to work in some
of the limited testing I’ve done.
- It’s relatively easy with some instruction. – One of our missions may be to have several stations preset by
advanced users for configuration, but then we may ask non-technical users to use the tool (YAAC).
- The data it can include. - ?Imagine for a moment the desire to track resources and while currently using AX.25,
the ADS-B add-in makes it easy to also track some aircraft. During emergencies, ones worthy of note, likely you wouldn’t see anything since they would likely be military and are not required to use ADS-B, but if we use civilian aircraft, we can see that voiceless
and easy.
- The “lightweight web server,” That allows an EOC to have up a live view of the situational area. The IC can
simply look up and see a real time picture of the affected area or areas.
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Anyway, it’s just super cool and super flexible.
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I need to find out how to track marine traffic and then see if Andrew might add that plug in. I know that APRS.fi has it but that requires internet.?
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Thank to you all and thanks again Andrew!
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Doug Ferrell
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 6:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] What a coooooool tool!!!
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Thanks for the explanation Andrew!
Sometimes I have a blue screen in my brain and it takes a dump.? :-)
-Doug
KD4MOJ
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
Thanks for the explanation Andrew!
Sometimes I have a blue screen in my brain and it takes a dump.? :-)
-Doug
KD4MOJ
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
That map is a copy of Jamie WA7JH's map window in his running copy of YAAC at his station. YAAC has a mini webserver built into it so other computers on the same LAN as the YAAC computer can see most of the information the YAAC user can see (the map, the station list, the incoming text message list, etc.). Jamie has exported that local webserver by port-forwarding through his firewall router, so anyone on the Internet can see what his station sees. Thankfully, the webserver in YAAC is small and stupid enough that it can't be used as a bot vector for attacking other systems; the worst it can do is crash YAAC from being overloaded with requests. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Doug Ferrell <lists@...> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 8:22 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] What a coooooool tool!!! Ok I guess I must have missed something. I saw a map on the link. What exactly is the tool? ...DOUG KD4MOJ On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote: Andrew, Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool. I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working.... And man is it cool! Weather enabled!! ADS-B enabled!!!! RF TNC Enabled !!!!!!!! APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!! Custom objects created! For those wanting to check it out!!!! Andrew, thank you man!! Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my club! _._,_._,
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Ok I guess I must have missed something. I saw a map on the link. What exactly is the tool?
...DOUG
KD4MOJ
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On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote:
Andrew,
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Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool.
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I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working.... And man is it cool!
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Weather enabled!!
ADS-B enabled!!!!
RF TNC Enabled !!!!!!!!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
Custom objects created!
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For those wanting to check it out!!!!
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Andrew, thank you man!!
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Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my club!
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
Works now!? Thanks.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and
Win32
On 8/27/2024 12:02 PM, Jamie H wrote:
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翱谤…….
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I forgot to add a firewall rule.
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Try again, sorry.
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Jamie
Hughes
WA7JH
(360)
340-8886
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That looks like the HamNet (the block of
Internet addresses reserved for public ham radio). His
HamNet fragment may not have a route to the public Internet.
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Have you been slash-dotted??? Or is it
just not reachable from the Internet at large?
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote:
Just in case no one has said it, you
make a really cool tool.
I've had to fight it a little bit, as
I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always
seem to get it working.... And man is it cool!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
For those wanting to check it out!!!!
Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for
doing a demo on this to my club!
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
翱谤…….
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I forgot to add a firewall rule.
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Try again, sorry.
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Jamie Hughes
WA7JH
(360) 340-8886
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Andrew P.
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 8:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] What a coooooool tool!!!
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That looks like the HamNet (the block of Internet addresses reserved for public ham radio). His HamNet fragment may not have a route to the public Internet.
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Have you been slash-dotted??? Or is it just not reachable from the Internet at large?
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote:
Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool.
I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working.... And man is it cool!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
For those wanting to check it out!!!!
Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my club!
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Re: What a coooooool tool!!!
That looks like the HamNet (the block of Internet addresses reserved for public ham radio). His HamNet fragment may not have a route to the public Internet.
Andrew, KA2DDO
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Have you been slash-dotted??? Or is it just not reachable from the Internet at large?
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS.?
On 8/26/2024 11:39 PM, Jamie H wrote:
Andrew,
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Just in case no one has said it, you make a really cool tool.
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I've had to fight it a little bit, as I am sure it's me or something I am doing, but I always seem to get it working.... And man is it cool!
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Weather enabled!!
ADS-B enabled!!!!
RF TNC Enabled !!!!!!!!
APRS-IS Enabled !!!!!!!!!
Custom objects created!
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For those wanting to check it out!!!!
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Andrew, thank you man!!
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Big shoutout to Jason, KM4ACK for doing a demo on this to my club!
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Jamie H
