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Soooooooo..

I have to have a little fun here as I am intrigued by this discussion.

If I'm reading this right, we can take a Weather Alert and feed that to APRS via YAAC? If true, I want to learn how......

And I know what's wrong with Dale's configuration. Its that he's a Chiefs fan.. Go Hawks!!!!!!! Hi HI......

73 all of you, thank you all for threads here.

Jamie Hughes
WA7JH
(360) 340-8886

The difference between the APRS-IS port filter and the supplemental Tx I-gate filter is as follows:

The APRS-IS port filter controls what extra comes _into_ YAAC from the APRS-IS backbone. The supplemental Tx I-gate filter specifies what extra will be _forced_ to RF of what was received (assuming you are configured to allow Tx I-gating at all, which is a separate checkbox in the expert-mode configuration dialog). Which means that you can force all you want, but if it doesn't come in, it won't be there to be forced out.

I hope that period after K0FJ* is a typo in writing your email, because it wouldn't match either of the callsigns. I hope you don't have the literal word "filter" in your YAAC filter expressions, because it is automatically injected prior to the expression you specify, and would cause a syntax error in the filter parsers (saying "filter filter m/600 ..."). Also, specifying the NWS stations as NWSGLD isn't going to work; the examples I have seen are messages GLDSVR (for severe weather from GLD). So you might want to just look for senders GLD* and DDR* (since neither of those starts are valid amateur radio callsign prefixes). Other suffixes to those three-letter NWS offices are things like TOR (tornado), SVS (severe weather), FLS (flood), etc.

Also, that is _way_ too much to specify in a supplemental Tx filter, because you won't have enough bandwidth to force all that out to RF. A 600-kilometer radius of traffic shoved onto a 1200-baud channel, when normal RF range maxes out around 100km (unless you have some serious mountain digipeaters) and channel saturation can easily be much smaller than that?

An Object sticks around for 3 retransmission intervals after you kill it, to send "I'm a dead Object" message (so other stations don't have to wait for it to timeout in 80 minutes).

If you delete an Object from the Local Objects table without changing it to killed status first, then the received traffic (from digipeaters) will continue to sit there until your data purging time interval is reached (since you will never receive a "killed Object" report).

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Chiefsfan2 <chiefsfan2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2024 8:10 PM
To: yaac-users@groups.io
Subject: [yaac-users] APRS-IS Filter

Back when I was using UI-View I use to gate wx warnings to RF from 2 od my area NWS offices. UI-View had a special area to add stations you wanted to gate. I would put NWSDDC* and NWSGLD* in that list and I would get the warnings. In Yaac I have my APR-IS filter in the port settings to fllter m/600 b/K0FJ*.W0RBO*/NWSDDC*/NWSGLD*/ t/nwt but am getting no alerts. I have the sane in the supplemental TX I-gate filter as well. I havent figured out the differnce between the two.

Also I was testing sending out objects to certain locations. I then went to kill the object but it still shows on my screen although it isnt being sent out anymore? Thanks Dale

You can delete the entire contents of some tables. For example, if you open the View->Local Objects table, you can choose File->Clear Table to delete every local Object.

But there's nothing in-between to delete some but not all local Objects.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2024 11:06 AM
To: yaac-users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Import CSV file to make objects

Once you have imported a POS file is there a way to un-import it too? I have'nt found a way other than closing YAAC and restarting, or deleting each object individually.
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Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA USA

Typical no-beacon reasons:

1. The beacon record isn't enabled (on the Beacon tab in expert-mode configuration).
2. The RF port (AGWPE, Serial_TNC, etc.) is not configured for transmit-enabled.
3. The RF port is not associated with the named beacon record (for multi-RF-port configurations with different beacons for each port).
4. The PTT isn't correctly configured in your software TNC.
5. The PTT signal path isn't correctly wired to the radio.
6. The PTT polarity isn't set correctly.

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From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Tim Huffaker <thuffaker@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 9:29 PM
To: yaac-users@groups.io
Subject: [yaac-users] No Beacon

I running YAAC after a long while for the yearly bicycle event. I noticed when I select BCN after was able to update YAAC it will not transmit a beacon. I checked the normal suspects but cannot get it work. My packet engine is direwolf running as a Kiss TNC.

What are the common reasons YAAC will not beacon to help find my error.

Tim
KM4ESU

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Have you examined the files in YAAC/logdir ?

You have to run the upgrade through to completion.

While running your old version of YAAC, choose the menu entry Help->Check for Updates. If it finds a newer version, it will see if your system allows upgrading (it may not, depending on how the old version was installed; perhaps with a different user account such as "root" so the user running YAAC now doesn't have permissions to overwrite it), and, if OK, download the YAAC.zip file. It will then ask you if you want to run the upgrader. If you don't run the upgrader, the YAAC.zip file won't be unpacked to upgrade your existing installation.

When the upgrader is finished, you don't have to let it start the new version of YAAC for you, although you can. I always start the new version manually from a command shell window (not by clicking an icon), so I can see if there are any unexpected error messages.

But the important part is not only downloading the new version, but installing it over the old version.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Tim Huffaker <thuffaker@...>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2024 8:52 PM
To: yaac-users@groups.io
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] next beta build#202 of YAAC, cerated 2024-Sep-07

Andrew,

Yes, it is bike ride time again. I am trying to upgrade YAAC, and I have an Icon on my desktop to launch YAAC. Unfortunately, the icon does not call up the new software. How can I get the icon to call up the new version of YAAC?

Thank you for your wonder program.

Tim
KM4ESU

I presume you used the wizard to do your initial configuration. In that case, the wizard only pulls in around 100km radius of 1-degree tiles of map data; if that happens to be part-way across a tile, the whole tile is pulled in. This is reasonable as a default, since APRS is a local tactical protocol, so you wouldn't be able to hear RF stations much further away unless you have an unusual digipeater environment. But if you want to pull in more, go to the menu choice File->OpenStreetMap->Download Pre-Imported Tiles, and specify the radius you want to pull in, and let YAAC pull the larger quantity of tiles from my server.

As for the beacon button being gray, on the last panel of the wizard (Finish Configuring Beacon), did you check the "Enable station beacon" checkbox? If you didn't, then you can't send beacons, because you configured YAAC to not do so.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of SV?SGS via groups.io <sv0sgs@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2024 7:09 AM
To: yaac-users@groups.io
Subject: [yaac-users] beacon button remains grey

Hello! It looks like I have direwolf and the latest yaac set up correctly. no error messages. i have configured both tcp-ip and agwpe ports and connected my HT via cable to the audio input/output of my laptop. I am running windoz 10 for this exercise. The beacon button remains grey. What have I missed?

Also, when I zoom out on the map, the tiles are not filled in. See pic below:

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how can i get yaac to fill in the tiles so that i can view a larger map area?

thanks in advance for anyone's help.
vy 73 david sv0sgs

That "connect timed out" error says there is no AGWPE server (AGWPE, DireWolf, SoundModem, etc.) running at the port and non-local Internet address you specified in your port configuration. This could be due to:
1. a firewall setting on the remote computer (or the path to it), not permitting outside access to the specified port and just dropping the connection request rather than sending back a "connection refused" ICMP packet, or
2. the specified computer does not exist at all.

This configured behavior of firewalls is becoming more common with Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) and network mapping attacks becoming more prevalent.

You should never see this error if you are running the AGWPE server on your local computer where YAAC is running, as the firewall there shouldn't prevent you from talking to services on your own computer, but you could see the "connection refused" or "no such port" error if the software TNC program wasn't running when YAAC tried to connect to it.

For convenience, if you are running the software TNC on the same computer as YAAC, you should always use the "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" loopback address for the AGWPE server, rather than the network address the router assigned to your computer with DHCP. It is entirely possible for the router to change the address assigned to your computer without notice to you the human, and suddenly YAAC will think the AGWPE server is running somewhere else and try to reach the network address your computer used to use.

Note you don't use the AGWPE port type to connect to the APRS-IS Internet backbone; you use the APRS-IS port type instead.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2024 3:40 PM
To: yaac-users@groups.io
Subject: [yaac-users] problem with java

hello! I wanted to use yaack and configure an agwpe port but got this error:

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I am using the most current version of yaack and java. my os is windows 10. can someone help me out here?


vy 73


David SV0SGS

next beta build#202 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2024-Sep-07

downloadable from
or

changes and updates include:
1. fix hanging condition in marineports plugin's NMEA0183-over-TCP driver
(library code in core YAAC contributed to the problem).
2. fix some incorrect Javadoc comments in the source code.
3. stop rendering locally-created APRS Objects on the map when displaying
Objects is conditionally suppressed in a YAAC display.
4. fix Edit Filter dialog so that red dot on tabs will appear initially
if a filter on that tab is already restricting the packets and stations
viewed.
5. fix sorting problems on View Local Objects table.
6. conserve storage in imported OSM way files where the Way is identified
as being some sort of amenity type instead of a road or waterway.
7. fix message content filter UI to not place the controls for setting
ambiguity bounds off the screen.
8. fix recognition of some non-standard OSM amenity type values when
importing OSM data into YAAC.
9. add support for the OSM Boundary type "timezone" and the Emergency type
"water_rescue_station". add more OSM amenity types from allowed
value additions to the "man_made" and "building" keys.
10. fix OSM import processing when multiple tags provide amenity type values
and/or the provided values are multiple for a single tag.
11. improve error messages from the JSON message parser when a JSON source
is providing invalid JSON text.
12. fix versioning error for persisted routes in dynamic objects plugin.
UNFORTUNATELY, this is not backwards-compatible, so you will have to
manually delete the old persisted routes from the $HOME/YAAC/routes
directory, and re-load them into YAAC. But now you will not have
issues from further updates to the dynamicobjects plugin.
13. make Ant build.xml file for the ms150utils utility consistent with other
build.xml files in YAAC, having the default target of PACKAGE to build
everything in the module.
14. remove use of the dated.tile.dir override Java property, and allow the
user to select from the GUI older available versions of the imported
OSM data in case of incompatible YAAC structure version or OSM
database vandalism.
14. add logic to allow recreating all window menus when a plugin is installed.
15. add logic to permit removing menu entries for simplified training version
of YAAC (training plugin not yet written).
16. on tile downloading dialogs, don't enable the "refresh all tiles" checkbox
unless there are existing tiles to refresh (preventing user complaints
they never got any tiles downloaded).
17. improve OSM map searches for propagation obstructions.
18. support enlarging the size of the ID field for OSM Ways to prepare for
future growth in way ID numbers, rather than having incompatibility
in the future.
19. fix help lookup code to support possible help file locale plugins.
20. merge Uri DO7HBL's corrections to the German locale translation of
YAAC's UI text.
21. fix OSM rendering of islands in the ocean.
22. fix logic errors in AREDN Objects plugin, fix interconnections view
to not scroll the left-column node names away when scrolling
horizontally. fix race conditions in the AREDN plugin.
23. upgrade Apache compress and POI libraries to latest versions.
24. fix the demo plugin so changing the sequence of slides actually will
update the running demonstration without having to stop the demo
or YAAC itself.

Jamie,

The capability of AIS tracking in YAAC already exists. You will need to use DireWolf 1.7 or later, configured to use the AIS modem instead of the AX.25 packet modem, and connect it to a radio capable of tuning the appropriate VHF marine channels and providing direct discriminator tap-off for wide-bandwidth audio (all of this is written up in documentation provided with DireWolf). Then in YAAC, you install the AISDecoder plugin, and connect YAAC to the AIS-configured instance of DireWolf the same way you would to an AX.25-configured DireWolf instance using a AGWPE or KISS-over-TCP port type. Received marine vessel transmissions will now be mapped into map objects conceptually the same way ADS-B frames are mapped to aircraft symbols, and a new choice on the View menu will display a tabular list of all tracked vessels.

There is no reason (other than the amount of memory, CPU power, and USB connections on your computer) why you can't use the ADSB plugin and the AIS plugin simultaneously.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Jamie H
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] What a coooooool tool!!!

I need to find out how to track marine traffic and then see if Andrew might add that plug in. I know that APRS.fi has it but that requires internet.?

Thank to you all and thanks again Andrew!

Jamie Hughes
WA7JH

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