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Re: No mobile APRS in YAAC
First off, is your digipeater a digipeater-plus-I-gate, or just a digipeater? Since your iPhone is not a transmitter on ham bands, the only way your Internet-originated APRS packets are going to get to amateur-band RF is via somebody's transmit-capable I-gate. If you don't have a transmit-capable I-gate in the neighborhood, no one is going to put your Internet packets on RF.
Secondly, I-gates (and the APRS-IS backbone servers) have some logic within them to keep from flooding the local RF channel with excess traffic. Unless explicitly configured otherwise at the I-gate, traffic will not be sent from the Internet to the I-gate for retransmission on RF unless: 1. the APRS packet is a text message addressed to an RF station reported to the backbone as being heard by that particular I-gate. 2. the APRS packet is a position report from an Internet-relayed station that has just sent a text message meeting rule#1 (so the text message recipient can see where the message sender is located). This is what keeps transmit-capable I-gates from saturating the RF channel with spurious traffic. And the APRS-IS does not know that a connected station is _not_ an I-gate. If it is connected to APRS-IS, then it will be treated like an I-gate, and therefore the rules for sending traffic to an I-gate apply in every backbone server. Traffic is only forwarded to the connected station if rule#1, rule#2, or an explicit filter specification would pass the traffic. And a proper I-gate should enforce the rules too, in case somebody floods the APRS-IS with spurious traffic, or a filter is specified on the connection to APRS-IS. This is why YAAC has the supplemental filter to force additional traffic to RF (above and beyond rule#1 and rule#2 traffic); this capability should be used very carefully and cautiously, as the the RF channel doesn't have much bandwidth. So, send more than just a beacon from your iPhone. Remember, one of the fundamental regulations of amateur radio is that it is two-way communications. Telemetry is an allowed but secondary purpose of amateur radio. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC |
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Re: Pi and mobilinkd
开云体育I'm not sure. I've only tested the Bluetooth plugin on Microsoft Windows and Debian Linux (Intel processors). So I don't know which Pi processors the ARM native library will work on.Please, try it on any Pi version you want, and let me know if it does or doesn't work so I can update the documentation. Andrew, KA2DDO -------- Original message --------
From: Jeremy West <ticfifty@...> Date: 4/16/20 17:38 (GMT-05:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Pi and mobilinkd You said you don't know if the second option would work for pi 4, do you know if it would for the pi 3? It sounds like the second option you gave me would be the more stable if I can make that work would you agree? On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 7:15 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote: Greetings. |
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Re: Pi and mobilinkd
You said you don't know if the second option would work for pi 4, do you know if it would for the pi 3? It sounds like the second option you gave me would be the more stable if I can make that work would you agree? On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 7:15 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote: Greetings. |
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Re: Pi and mobilinkd
Greetings.
You have two options here. If you bind the Mobilinkd TNC to your Pi using their Bluetooth drivers, you can use the Serial_TNC port type. However, if you have Bluetooth connectivity dropouts, this may hang or crash YAAC. Another option is to use the Bluetooth plugin for YAAC and thereby let YAAC manage the Bluetooth connection (and deal with flakiness thereof) with the Bluetooth_TNC port type. It has a limited set of native libraries, so I'm not sure if the included armv5 library will work on a Pi4, but you can try it. No guarantees; I don't own that particular hardware, so I can't test it. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC |
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Re: Coordinates and station location in the map
Thank you Andrew.? That explains that I am entering the wrong format.? I was confused with the DDD MM.SS with DDD MM.mm.? Now entered the DDD MM.mm and it is now in the right location.
I have another question but that will be in another thread perhaps. Best regards, Maximo, DU2UXH |
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Re: Changing Call Sign in YACC
robert nazro
Spot on. Thanks.? On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:22 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote: The callsigns are not for the station as a whole, but for each APRS communications port (Serial_TNC, APRS-IS, etc.). The reason the old callsign keeps showing up in the wizard is because you didn't change the callsign on each existing port, so that old callsign comes back when the wizard comes up with a default callsign for creating new ports. --
Bob Nazro, W1RPQ |
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Re: Changing Call Sign in YACC
The callsigns are not for the station as a whole, but for each APRS communications port (Serial_TNC, APRS-IS, etc.). The reason the old callsign keeps showing up in the wizard is because you didn't change the callsign on each existing port, so that old callsign comes back when the wizard comes up with a default callsign for creating new ports.
Click on the RF and IP buttons above the map; those will bring up the editing panels for each of those ports so you can fix the callsigns on them. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC |
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Re: Missing lake in front of my house
Hi Andrew
Thanks for this.? I do not mean to sound ungrateful by any means.? I think you are doing a great job in creating and supporting YAAC.? It has a lot of great features and is very simple to use,? I gather then that mapping is not a trivial exercise and I should have realized this!? I look forward to future releases. Joe VA3JLF |
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Re: Missing lake in front of my house
My thoughts are: it's really really hard to slice up a vector map with filled areas into lots of smaller vector maps with correctly sliced filled areas, which is what the YAAC OSM map importer does. And it still has bugs in it. Half a dozen builds ago of YAAC, you didn't even have water in front of your house. :-) I'm still trying to fix the importer algorithms to handle large squiggly-edged bodies of water that span multiple 1x1-degree tiles. It's better than it was, but still not correct.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC |
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Missing lake in front of my house
Hi Andrew
I live in the vicinity of East Lake Ontario Canada and the lake is missing from the YAAC map , instead of the lake there is a white space.? The coordinates of the lake are?43.9189° N, 77.2003° W.?? Also, going right through the words Prince Edward Count on the YAAC map is a blue band which should not be there.? I have checked the same location on Openstreetmap.org and the map features for the same location are correct on the openstreetmap site, indicating that the source of the data is correct.? ?Could it be that these errors were introduced during the transition to the yaac map? I would appreciate your thoughts on what could be done here.? If you give me step by step directions, I could also make the map tiles from the original as I have a fast internet connection.? Thanks. Joe VA3JLF |
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Re: WX station question
Thanks for investigating Andrew! I checked the Weathercat documentation and there doesn't appear to be anyway of changing the format unfortunately, it seems to be tied to the CWOP service Bob On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:50 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote: Yes, it does indicate a syntax error. The specified format of the WXNOW.TXT file (that YAAC knows about, anyway, according to the Cumulus application's documentation) is a two-line file. The first line contains the date/time of the weather sample in the format |
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Re: WX station question
Yes, it does indicate a syntax error. The specified format of the WXNOW.TXT file (that YAAC knows about, anyway, according to the Cumulus application's documentation) is a two-line file. The first line contains the date/time of the weather sample in the format
MMM dd yyyy HH:mm Not sure whether that is local time or GMT, but YAAC interprets it as local time. The second line is the APRS packet starting at the wind direction (for your sample, at the "051/004" text), without the position, timestamp, or APRS-IS third-party header. If I need to support this format as well, I can add that in a future build of YAAC. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Evans <bob9750@...> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] WX station question Thanks for getting back to me so fast! I am using the wxnow file generated by Weathercat and I selected the location using the port update screen in YACC /Users/admin/Library/Application Support/WCWeb/WXNOW.txt I'm also using the latest build #148 26Mar2020 Just checked the error log and it shows the following: Mon Apr 13 10:15:48 EDT 2020: WxPoller unable to read weather due to: java.text.ParseException: Unparseable date: "FW6940>APRS,TCPIP*:@131415z4208.54N/07137.00W_051/004g016t056r023p037P038h92b10145WeatherCatV244B2H31" at java.text.DateFormat.parse(DateFormat.java:366) at org.ka2ddo.yaac.io.WxnowTxtConnector$WxPoller.run(WxnowTxtConnector.java:99) at java.util.TimerThread.mainLoop(Timer.java:555) at java.util.TimerThread.run(Timer.java:505) Mon Apr 13 10:15:48 EDT 2020: port WXNOW.TXT: /Users/admin/Library/Application Support/WCWeb/WXNOW.txt failed Does this indicate that it's a problem with the Weathercat format? Bob On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:10 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>> wrote: OK, which weather port driver are you using inside YAAC? The Serial_Weather port type can only be used with Peet Bros weather stations, and requires exclusive use of the serial port connected to the weather station (i.e., the same serial port can't also be used by WeatherCat or any other application). If you are using the WXNOW.TXT port driver in YAAC (what you should be using in your case), did you configure the port to the correct location where WeatherCat is storing the WXNOW.TXT file? The orange button on the toolbar indicates an error in the port, possibly due to not being able to find the file. It can also be due to a file access collision where YAAC tries to read the file while WeatherCat is updating it. If that is the cause, update to the latest build of YAAC; I recently put a fix in to deal with file access collisions. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Bob Evans <bob9750@...<mailto:bob9750@...>> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:50 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [yaac-users] WX station question Hi Andrew I have been using YAAC for several years and it is a great program and really appreciate all fo your work. My system is usually just connected to the internet and no RF. Recently I decided to connect it to my weather station and enabled the WXNOW.txt functionality. I am using a Davis Vantage with Weathercat software on OSX, I subscribed to CWOP and have a weather station ID of FW6940 and that works fine, if I go to aprs.fi<> and search for FW6940 I can see the charts etc. However, if I look for ab2ne-1 I see the wx station symbol but no weather data, when I look at other local stations e.g. KC1AJT-13 in YAAC I see the wind speed arrow and the icons showing rain etc The port for the WX in YAAC is enabled although the icon is yellow and my wxnow.txt file is: FW6940>APRS,TCPIP*:@131329z4208.54N/07137.00W_236/004g017t056r000p026P026h92b10152WeatherCatV244B2H31 I did try changing the ID for the wxnow file to AB2NE-1 and that did show some data, but I don't think that was going via YAAC but rather via CWOP. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks Bob AB2NE |
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Re: WX station question
Thanks for?getting back to me so fast! I am using the wxnow file generated by Weathercat and I selected the location using the port update screen in YACC /Users/admin/Library/Application Support/WCWeb/WXNOW.txt I'm also using the latest build #148 26Mar2020 Just checked the error log and it shows the following: Mon Apr 13 10:15:48 EDT 2020: WxPoller unable to read weather due to: java.text.ParseException: Unparseable date: "FW6940>APRS,TCPIP*:@131415z4208.54N/07137.00W_051/004g016t056r023p037P038h92b10145WeatherCatV244B2H31" at java.text.DateFormat.parse(DateFormat.java:366) at org.ka2ddo.yaac.io.WxnowTxtConnector$WxPoller.run(WxnowTxtConnector.java:99) at java.util.TimerThread.mainLoop(Timer.java:555) at java.util.TimerThread.run(Timer.java:505) Mon Apr 13 10:15:48 EDT 2020: port WXNOW.TXT: /Users/admin/Library/Application Support/WCWeb/WXNOW.txt failed Does this indicate?that it's a problem with the Weathercat format? Bob On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:10 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote: OK, which weather port driver are you using inside YAAC? The Serial_Weather port type can only be used with Peet Bros weather stations, and requires exclusive use of the serial port connected to the weather station (i.e., the same serial port can't also be used by WeatherCat or any other application). |
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Re: WX station question
OK, which weather port driver are you using inside YAAC? The Serial_Weather port type can only be used with Peet Bros weather stations, and requires exclusive use of the serial port connected to the weather station (i.e., the same serial port can't also be used by WeatherCat or any other application).
If you are using the WXNOW.TXT port driver in YAAC (what you should be using in your case), did you configure the port to the correct location where WeatherCat is storing the WXNOW.TXT file? The orange button on the toolbar indicates an error in the port, possibly due to not being able to find the file. It can also be due to a file access collision where YAAC tries to read the file while WeatherCat is updating it. If that is the cause, update to the latest build of YAAC; I recently put a fix in to deal with file access collisions. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Evans <bob9750@...> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] WX station question Hi Andrew I have been using YAAC for several years and it is a great program and really appreciate all fo your work. My system is usually just connected to the internet and no RF. Recently I decided to connect it to my weather station and enabled the WXNOW.txt functionality. I am using a Davis Vantage with Weathercat software on OSX, I subscribed to CWOP and have a weather station ID of FW6940 and that works fine, if I go to aprs.fi and search for FW6940 I can see the charts etc. However, if I look for ab2ne-1 I see the wx station symbol but no weather data, when I look at other local stations e.g. KC1AJT-13 in YAAC I see the wind speed arrow and the icons showing rain etc The port for the WX in YAAC is enabled although the icon is yellow and my wxnow.txt file is: FW6940>APRS,TCPIP*:@131329z4208.54N/07137.00W_236/004g017t056r000p026P026h92b10152WeatherCatV244B2H31 I did try changing the ID for the wxnow file to AB2NE-1 and that did show some data, but I don't think that was going via YAAC but rather via CWOP. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks Bob AB2NE |
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WX station question
Hi Andrew
I have been using YAAC for several years and it is a great program and really appreciate all fo your work. My system is usually just connected to the internet and no RF. Recently I decided to connect it to my weather station and enabled the WXNOW.txt functionality. I am using a Davis Vantage with Weathercat software on OSX, I subscribed to CWOP and have a weather station ID of FW6940 and that works fine, if I go to aprs.fi and search for FW6940 I can see the charts etc. However, if I look for ab2ne-1 I see the wx station symbol but no weather data, when I look at other local stations e.g. KC1AJT-13 in YAAC I see the wind speed arrow and the icons showing rain etc The port for the WX in YAAC is enabled although the icon is yellow and my wxnow.txt file is: FW6940>APRS,TCPIP*:@131329z4208.54N/07137.00W_236/004g017t056r000p026P026h92b10152WeatherCatV244B2H31 I did try changing the ID for the wxnow file to AB2NE-1 and that did show some data, but I don't think that was going via YAAC but rather via CWOP. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks Bob AB2NE |
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Re: Coordinates and station location in the map
Greetings.
From your description and my doing a test run on the whatsmygps.com website, are you sure that your QTH's exact location is what they came up with? I typed in my address (including the street name and house number), and got a different segment of the street in my village, rather than the exact location of my house, as if they ignored the street name and house number of my address, or got confused because the street name is used in several discontiguous places. Their satellite map image actually showed the location of the middle school over a kilometer from my house. Another possibility is that you're using the wrong units to enter your latitude and longitude. APRS uses a standardized format called DDMM.MM (or degrees and fractional minutes). It specifically does _not_ use degrees/minutes/seconds (typical GPS device display format) or fractional degrees (such as whatsmygps.com reports). Although you can change preferences in YAAC to display and enter coordinates in those formats/units, they will be translated to DDMM.MM format before transmission in APRS packets. My suggestion for easy data entry is to download the OpenStreetMap data for the region around your QTH, pan and zoom in enough so you can precisely see the street location of your station (relative to nearby intersections, curves in the road, etc.), then right-click on the map where your home is, and pick the "Move Home Here" popup menu choice. Once you confirm the change, YAAC will copy the coordinates of where you right-clicked as the new fixed location of your station. If you have an actual GPS receiver, you can confirm that the same coordinates were returned. Another thing to confirm is if the OpenStreetMap data is actually correct for your area. Since it is entered by crowd-sourcing, it is entirely possible that the person doing the data entry made an error, or used incorrect source data. You might need to get a GPS receiver and an OpenStreetMap account and correct your local data, in which case I would pick up the changes a week or so later when I download another snapshot of the world-wide OpenStreetMap dataset and reprocess it into YAAC format. I did enter your address as provided on QRZ.com into both maps.google.com and and got similar-looking maps, but I have no way to confirm that either are correct or accurately placed (or that I didn't get the wrong town with the same name elsewhere in your country). Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC |
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Coordinates and station location in the map
I am new to YAAC and APRS.? I am configuring a RPi3B+ APRS iGATE/Digipeater using Direwolf and YAAC.? I know I have set my coordinates exactly as what I got from "whatsmygps.com".? But my station (DX2CAR) is somewhere few kilometers away from the exact location.? Am I doing something wrong?
Thank you. de DU2UXH, Maximo |
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