Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

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Just to make sure it's not a YAAC problem, after connecting the USB cable and powering up the Alinco radio, try issuing the Linux shell command:

ls -l /dev/ttyUSB*

Do you actually find any such devices on your Linux system?

Andrew, KA2DDO

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From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 3:07:50 PM
To: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

They provide a short adapter cable from the mini-USB connector on the TNC board

to a printer-type 'square' USB-B connector.

I tried bypassing that adapter with a mini-USB to USB cable, to rule-out an adapter failure.

No joy.

On 4/18/24 11:30, Christopher Rose wrote:

How is the Argent product wired through the radio case?

On Apr 18, 2024 9:49 AM, DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> wrote:

No.

When you install the Argent Data Tracker the Serial Port is no longer accessible.

YAAC can't communicate with a USB port?

Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

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I'm using ls -al /dev/ to see what's recognized.

Lots of tty entries but no ttyUSB0 or similar.

I'm communicating with Argent Data to see what I need to do ...

Thanks

On 4/18/24 13:26, Andrew P. wrote:

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You still need to tell YAAC what type of equipment you are connecting (a TNC, a GPS receiver, etc.) first, i.e., the YAAC Port Type. Then YAAC will give you a list of physical connection ports available (such as /dev/ttyUSB0) that support that type of device. There are about a dozen different types of devices and network connections you can make in YAAC, and none of them self-identify what they are to YAAC, so you need to tell YAAC what it is.

Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 12:42:30 PM
To: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

I'm used to seeing /dev/ttyUSB0, etc. in drop-down menus for port selection.

If I add YAAC as a member of the group owning the 'serial port device' /dev/ttyUSB0 - or whatever it turns out to be,

will /dev/ttyUSB0 be automatically added to the drop-down ports menu?

Thanks.

On 4/18/24 09:55, Andrew P. wrote:

That's because USB isn't a type of TNC or remote sensor. You could have your Argent Data Tracker connected through a motherboard COM port (non-USB) if your computer was old enough to have one; the TNC would behave the same regardless of the cable type.

What the YAAC port types specify is what is on the other end of the communications cable, such as a Serial_TNC for a Terminal Network Controller connected through a serial port. Similarly, Serial_GPS specifies a GPS receiver connected through a serial port.

Note that the Linux user account running YAAC will have to be a member of the group owning the serial port device (such as /dev/ttyUSB0), or YAAC will not have permissions to open the port. Typically, this will be the "dialout" group. Type the "groups" command at a shell prompt to see in which groups your account is a member. You can use the "sudo usermod" command to modify your account's supplemental group membership if needed.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

Can YAAC talk to USB? I looked in File -> Configure -> Expert Mode -> Add Port but none of the drop-down options mention USB. My rig is an ALinco DR-135T MkIII with an internal Argent Data Tracker TNC that's connected via USB. Thanks?

Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

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You still need to tell YAAC what type of equipment you are connecting (a TNC, a GPS receiver, etc.) first, i.e., the YAAC Port Type. Then YAAC will give you a list of physical connection ports available (such as /dev/ttyUSB0) that support that type of device. There are about a dozen different types of devices and network connections you can make in YAAC, and none of them self-identify what they are to YAAC, so you need to tell YAAC what it is.

Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

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From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2024 12:42:30 PM
To: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

I'm used to seeing /dev/ttyUSB0, etc. in drop-down menus for port selection.

If I add YAAC as a member of the group owning the 'serial port device' /dev/ttyUSB0 - or whatever it turns out to be,

will /dev/ttyUSB0 be automatically added to the drop-down ports menu?

Thanks.

On 4/18/24 09:55, Andrew P. wrote:

That's because USB isn't a type of TNC or remote sensor. You could have your Argent Data Tracker connected through a motherboard COM port (non-USB) if your computer was old enough to have one; the TNC would behave the same regardless of the cable type.

What the YAAC port types specify is what is on the other end of the communications cable, such as a Serial_TNC for a Terminal Network Controller connected through a serial port. Similarly, Serial_GPS specifies a GPS receiver connected through a serial port.

Note that the Linux user account running YAAC will have to be a member of the group owning the serial port device (such as /dev/ttyUSB0), or YAAC will not have permissions to open the port. Typically, this will be the "dialout" group. Type the "groups" command at a shell prompt to see in which groups your account is a member. You can use the "sudo usermod" command to modify your account's supplemental group membership if needed.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

Can YAAC talk to USB? I looked in File -> Configure -> Expert Mode -> Add Port but none of the drop-down options mention USB. My rig is an ALinco DR-135T MkIII with an internal Argent Data Tracker TNC that's connected via USB. Thanks?

Re: Sound Plugin Stopping

#2353

Restarted YAAC last week to restore sound alerts. Been receiving
messages almost daily and APRSThursday messages today, all with sound
alert. So far so good. I'm hoping it was just a transient glitch.

Michael

wa7skg wrote on 4/15/24 9:19 AM:

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It doesn't seem to matter the number of messages. I sent a bunch of test
messages and so far it is still working. I restarted last Thursday.
We'll see what happens this Thursday. It's only been a couple weeks, so
maybe it was just some glitch and no longer happening.

Michael WA7SKG

Andrew P. wrote on 4/14/24 2:04 PM:
I can't be certain, but I am guessing you are exceeding your open file
quota by re-opening the same .wav file without ever closing it. As
such, eventually YAAC would no longer be open the file. This would
also interfere in YAAC logging, as it doesn't keep the log files open
constantly, but only opens them for burst writes of the last few
minutes backlog.

Alas, I didn't run YAAC for days after implementing the fix, so I
didn't notice any quota leak.

I will look into it the next time I can work on YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Michael
WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
*From:*
Sunday, April 14, 2024 3:30:00 PM
*Sent:*
After applying the latest update, I am now getting an alert as
expected with an incoming message, however, it is not lasting. I
participate in the APRS Thursday thing and when I send my report, I
get several messages and the alert sounds. The following week, no
sounds. I have to restart YAAC to get the sounds to come again with
incoming messages. Sometime during the week, they stop working and by
the next Thursday I have to restart YAAC to get them back. My APRS
runs 24/7 here in the shack. I'm not seeing any other issues and no
indication when the sound feature stops working, until I look at the
message list and see a message came in and I got no alert. Ideas? --
73, Michael WA7SKG



















"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."

Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

#2352

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They provide a short adapter cable from the mini-USB connector on the TNC board

to a printer-type 'square' USB-B connector.

I tried bypassing that adapter with a mini-USB to USB cable, to rule-out an adapter failure.

No joy.

On 4/18/24 11:30, Christopher Rose wrote:

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How is the Argent product wired through the radio case?

On Apr 18, 2024 9:49 AM, DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> wrote:

No.

When you install the Argent Data Tracker the Serial Port is no longer accessible.

YAAC can't communicate with a USB port?

Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

#2351

How is the Argent product wired through the radio case?

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On Apr 18, 2024 9:49 AM, DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> wrote:

No.

When you install the Argent Data Tracker the Serial Port is no longer accessible.

YAAC can't communicate with a USB port?

Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

#2350

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I'm used to seeing /dev/ttyUSB0, etc. in drop-down menus for port selection.

If I add YAAC as a member of the group owning the 'serial port device' /dev/ttyUSB0 - or whatever it turns out to be,

will /dev/ttyUSB0 be automatically added to the drop-down ports menu?

Thanks.

On 4/18/24 09:55, Andrew P. wrote:

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That's because USB isn't a type of TNC or remote sensor. You could have your Argent Data Tracker connected through a motherboard COM port (non-USB) if your computer was old enough to have one; the TNC would behave the same regardless of the cable type.

What the YAAC port types specify is what is on the other end of the communications cable, such as a Serial_TNC for a Terminal Network Controller connected through a serial port. Similarly, Serial_GPS specifies a GPS receiver connected through a serial port.

Note that the Linux user account running YAAC will have to be a member of the group owning the serial port device (such as /dev/ttyUSB0), or YAAC will not have permissions to open the port. Typically, this will be the "dialout" group. Type the "groups" command at a shell prompt to see in which groups your account is a member. You can use the "sudo usermod" command to modify your account's supplemental group membership if needed.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

Can YAAC talk to USB? I looked in File -> Configure -> Expert Mode -> Add Port but none of the drop-down options mention USB. My rig is an ALinco DR-135T MkIII with an internal Argent Data Tracker TNC that's connected via USB. Thanks Groups.io Links:
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Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

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That's because USB isn't a type of TNC or remote sensor. You could have your Argent Data Tracker connected through a motherboard COM port (non-USB) if your computer was old enough to have one; the TNC would behave the same regardless of the cable type.

What the YAAC port types specify is what is on the other end of the communications cable, such as a Serial_TNC for a Terminal Network Controller connected through a serial port. Similarly, Serial_GPS specifies a GPS receiver connected through a serial port.

Note that the Linux user account running YAAC will have to be a member of the group owning the serial port device (such as /dev/ttyUSB0), or YAAC will not have permissions to open the port. Typically, this will be the "dialout" group. Type the "groups" command at a shell prompt to see in which groups your account is a member. You can use the "sudo usermod" command to modify your account's supplemental group membership if needed.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

#2348

No.

When you install the Argent Data Tracker the Serial Port is no longer accessible.

YAAC can't communicate with a USB port?

Re: YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

#2347

Alinco has a serial port, no?
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From: "DavidC KD4E" <qrv@...>
Reply-To: <yaac-users@groups.io>
To: <yaac-users@groups.io>
Sent: April 18, 2024 at 7:57 AM EDT
Subject: [yaac-users] YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option
Can YAAC talk to USB?

I looked in File -> Configure -> Expert Mode -> Add Port but none of the drop-down options mention USB.

My rig is an ALinco DR-135T MkIII with an internal Argent Data Tracker TNC that's connected via USB.

Thanks

YAAC - Installed on inovato Quadra but no USB to TNC option

#2346

Can YAAC talk to USB?

I looked in File -> Configure -> Expert Mode -> Add Port but none of the drop-down options mention USB.

My rig is an ALinco DR-135T MkIII with an internal Argent Data Tracker TNC that's connected via USB.

Thanks

Re: Sound Plugin Stopping

#2345

It doesn't seem to matter the number of messages. I sent a bunch of test
messages and so far it is still working. I restarted last Thursday.
We'll see what happens this Thursday. It's only been a couple weeks, so
maybe it was just some glitch and no longer happening.

Michael WA7SKG

Andrew P. wrote on 4/14/24 2:04 PM:

Show quoted text

I can't be certain, but I am guessing you are exceeding your open file
quota by re-opening the same .wav file without ever closing it. As such,
eventually YAAC would no longer be open the file. This would also
interfere in YAAC logging, as it doesn't keep the log files open
constantly, but only opens them for burst writes of the last few minutes
backlog.

Alas, I didn't run YAAC for days after implementing the fix, so I didn't
notice any quota leak.

I will look into it the next time I can work on YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
------------------------------------------------------------------------
yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG
<wa7skg@...>
*From:*
Sunday, April 14, 2024 3:30:00 PM
*Sent:*
After applying the latest update, I am now getting an alert as expected
with an incoming message, however, it is not lasting. I participate in
the APRS Thursday thing and when I send my report, I get several
messages and the alert sounds. The following week, no sounds. I have to
restart YAAC to get the sounds to come again with incoming messages.
Sometime during the week, they stop working and by the next Thursday I
have to restart YAAC to get them back. My APRS runs 24/7 here in the
shack. I'm not seeing any other issues and no indication when the sound
feature stops working, until I look at the message list and see a
message came in and I got no alert. Ideas? -- 73, Michael WA7SKG

"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."

Re: Sound Plugin Stopping

#2344

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I can't be certain, but I am guessing you are exceeding your open file quota by re-opening the same .wav file without ever closing it. As such, eventually YAAC would no longer be open the file. This would also interfere in YAAC logging, as it doesn't keep the log files open constantly, but only opens them for burst writes of the last few minutes backlog.

Alas, I didn't run YAAC for days after implementing the fix, so I didn't notice any quota leak.

I will look into it the next time I can work on YAAC.

Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

Sound Plugin Stopping

#2343

After applying the latest update, I am now getting an alert as expected
with an incoming message, however, it is not lasting. I participate in
the APRS Thursday thing and when I send my report, I get several
messages and the alert sounds. The following week, no sounds. I have to
restart YAAC to get the sounds to come again with incoming messages.
Sometime during the week, they stop working and by the next Thursday I
have to restart YAAC to get them back.

My APRS runs 24/7 here in the shack. I'm not seeing any other issues and
no indication when the sound feature stops working, until I look at the
message list and see a message came in and I got no alert.

Ideas?


--
73,
Michael WA7SKG

"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."

Re: Monitoring a single port?

#2342

Hi Andrew,

On 10 Apr 2024, at 5:55?AM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

This is a trivially simple operation. Click Filter->Edit Filter. Then go to the Packet Source tab of the Edit Filter dialog, and uncheck all the sources you currently don't want to see.

I put this feature in for (I'm guessing) exactly the reason you want it.Ahh, that filters everything, not just the map.  Didn’t realise that, thanks!

Carl.

Re: Monitoring a single port?

#2341

This is a trivially simple operation. Click Filter->Edit Filter. Then go to the Packet Source tab of the Edit Filter dialog, and uncheck all the sources you currently don't want to see.

I put this feature in for (I'm guessing) exactly the reason you want it.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Carl Makin <carl@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 1:29 AM
To: yaac-users@groups.io
Subject: [yaac-users] Monitoring a single port?

Hi Everyone,
I have a radio port, and an APRSIS port on my YAAC instance.  The APRSIS feed drowns out the RF port when viewing raw packets.  Is there any way to filter the raw packet view to just seeing packets to/from a single port?

Carl,
vk1kcm.

Monitoring a single port?

#2340

Hi Everyone,
I have a radio port, and an APRSIS port on my YAAC instance.  The APRSIS feed drowns out the RF port when viewing raw packets.  Is there any way to filter the raw packet view to just seeing packets to/from a single port?

Carl,
vk1kcm.

Re: Getting GPSD to continually update position (update)

#2339

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Alas, that won't help; u-blox is far more recent than the DeLorme GPSs. On the other hand, if you used a u-blox GPS with GPSD, it's entirely probable that GPSD switched the GPS into u-blox proprietary binary protocol.

Andrew, KA2DDO?

author of YAAC

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From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Paul Chambers <veast1@...>
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2024 1:31:51 PM
To: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting GPSD to continually update position (update)

Andrew, it's a u-blox. What model i don't recall, however it is several years old.

I used a puck style unit and it works with Linux, so the problem was definitely with the u-blox.

With the information you have given me i'll experiment with the Earthmate setting. Maybe thats all it needs.

Paul

On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 07:10:04 AM PDT, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

Hmmm.... is this one of the old DeLorme TripMate or EarthMate GPSs? They had a characteristic of sending a model announcement string, and wouldn't do anything else until that string was echoed back by the computer.

YAAC knows the sequence to enable a TripMate or EarthMate running in the Serial_GPS driver (not using GPSD), but may not know the proprietary code for the one you are using. What specific make and model of GPS are you using?

Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

_._,

Re: Getting GPSD to continually update position (update)

#2338

Andrew, it's a u-blox. What model i don't recall, however it is several years old.

I used a puck style unit and it works with Linux, so the problem was definitely with the u-blox.

With the information you have given me i'll experiment with the Earthmate setting. Maybe thats all it needs.

Paul

On Sunday, April 7, 2024 at 07:10:04 AM PDT, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Paul Chambers <veast1@...>

Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2024 9:53:20 AM

Again, thank you for the help Andrew. Using your suggestion i found that the GPS
module signs on with some kind of header and then fails to send anymore information to
YAAC. While it will stream to a terminal, it does not do so otherwise.

It was necessary to purchase a new laptop as one of my older ones died, before installing Ubuntu i'll
give it a try with YAAC in Windows 11 and a different GPS puck and see what happens.

Thank-you again and this can be closed as the problem is somewhere other than YAAC.

73 all. N6MYA

Re: Getting GPSD to continually update position (update)

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Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

From: yaac-users@groups.io <yaac-users@groups.io> on behalf of Paul Chambers <veast1@...>

Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2024 9:53:20 AM

73 all. N6MYA

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