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Re: OSX Sequoia
Another couple of things for your problem:
1. If it happens again, type ctrl-\ in the Terminal window where you started YAAC. That should cause it to print out the stack traces of all the threads inside the Java virtual machine, so we can see what thread is stuck where. 2. I noted that you are a year and a half behind on your build of YAAC (you're at build 191 from November 2023, and build 209 was released this February [and 210 just this morning in April]). If you still have the problem after manually upgrading YAAC (by unzipping the YAAC distribution file over the existing installation), it will be a lot easier to determine where it is stuck using suggestion#1. I suspect you will have the problem, if it is a system library problem and not an issue in YAAC itself (although in a build that old, there probably are several issues). Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Andrew P. via groups.io <andrewemt@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 7:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] OSX Sequoia Tim, Is your Mac fully up-to-date? My day-job Mac was crashing a different Java desktop GUI application repeatedly until I applied the latest OS X and Xcode upgrades. Something about the newest Java 8 JRE patches was abusing an OS X system library bug. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Tim Huffaker via groups.io <thuffaker@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] OSX Sequoia I am running an M1 Mac OSX 15.3.2 and installed it as shown for a Mac. However, my installation froze at the location shown below. Am I missing a dependency or something to get YAAC running on this Mac. Please let me know it would be helpful during bad weather. Tim KM4ESU timhuffaker@Mac-mini Yaac % java -jar YAAC.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAACBootstrap starting... os.name=Mac OS X os.version=15.3.2 os.arch=x86_64 locale=en_US java.version=1.8.0_441 java.class.version=52.0 JVM: Oracle Corporation Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 25.441-b07 java.class.path=YAAC.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAACBootstrap finding installation directory.... JSSC found at /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/lib/jssc-2.9.4.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: starting YAAC.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC initializing on Mac OS X 15.3.2 [x86_64] with Java 1.8.0_441, 8 cores, heap=5331/251392/3728384KWed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC finding installation directory.... JSSC found at /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/lib/jssc-2.9.4.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: load cached preferences.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC checking if upgrader needs moving.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC loading CoreProvider.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: CoreProvider instantiated. activating plugin --core-- name YAAC version 1.0-beta191(13-Nov-2023) Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC loading plugins.... scanning plugin JAR file /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/plugins/sampleplugin.jar attempting to load provider class org.ka2ddo.yaac.SamplePluginProvider loading plugin /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/plugins/sampleplugin.jar name YAAC Sample Plug-in version V0.1 SamplePluginProvider(org.ka2ddo.yaac.SamplePluginProvider in [file:/Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/plugins/sampleplugin.jar],dep=[]) activating plugin SamplePluginProvider name YAAC Sample Plug-in version V0.1 2025-04-09 11:54:37.984 java[30775:2007008] +[IMKClient subclass]: chose IMKClient_Modern 2025-04-09 11:54:37.984 java[30775:2007008] +[IMKInputSession subclass]: chose IMKInputSession_Modern Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: loading core GUI class.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC raising splash screen.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: load beacon definitions.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: load status definition.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: creating SymAttr objects for 1.0.1... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: filling in text for 1.0.1 symbols... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: set up raw packet data model.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: starting web server... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: YAAC starting main GUI.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: fixing JavaHelp linking... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: setting up common GUI table models... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: starting bulletin board monitor... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: starting firstWindow=map OpenMap(tm) Version 5.1.15 Copyright (C) BBNT Solutions LLC. All rights reserved. See for details. Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: creating top map toolbar... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: 1744217678759: starting to load symbol images... 1744217685804: finished loading 1.0.1 basic symbol images... Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: 1744217685805: done loading symbols. Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: adding map scale widget... Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: adding blinkenlight panel... Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: creating map footer... Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: setting up map hot-keys... Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: sizing alternate map window... Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: YAAC Macifying main menu bar.... registered AboutHandler by Apple proprietary classes registered QuitHandler by Apple proprietary classes registered PreferencesHandler by Apple proprietary classes UI L&F=com.apple.laf.AquaLookAndFeel Aqua Look and Feel for Mac OS X sun.swing.DefaultLayoutStyle@19fe4644 System L&F=com.apple.laf.AquaLookAndFeel Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: YAAC: GUI instantiated, now setting up GUI.... |
Re: OSX Sequoia
Tim,
Is your Mac fully up-to-date? My day-job Mac was crashing a different Java desktop GUI application repeatedly until I applied the latest OS X and Xcode upgrades. Something about the newest Java 8 JRE patches was abusing an OS X system library bug. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Tim Huffaker via groups.io <thuffaker@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] OSX Sequoia I am running an M1 Mac OSX 15.3.2 and installed it as shown for a Mac. However, my installation froze at the location shown below. Am I missing a dependency or something to get YAAC running on this Mac. Please let me know it would be helpful during bad weather. Tim KM4ESU timhuffaker@Mac-mini Yaac % java -jar YAAC.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAACBootstrap starting... os.name=Mac OS X os.version=15.3.2 os.arch=x86_64 locale=en_US java.version=1.8.0_441 java.class.version=52.0 JVM: Oracle Corporation Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 25.441-b07 java.class.path=YAAC.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAACBootstrap finding installation directory.... JSSC found at /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/lib/jssc-2.9.4.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: starting YAAC.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC initializing on Mac OS X 15.3.2 [x86_64] with Java 1.8.0_441, 8 cores, heap=5331/251392/3728384KWed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC finding installation directory.... JSSC found at /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/lib/jssc-2.9.4.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: load cached preferences.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC checking if upgrader needs moving.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC loading CoreProvider.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: CoreProvider instantiated. activating plugin --core-- name YAAC version 1.0-beta191(13-Nov-2023) Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC loading plugins.... scanning plugin JAR file /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/plugins/sampleplugin.jar attempting to load provider class org.ka2ddo.yaac.SamplePluginProvider loading plugin /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/plugins/sampleplugin.jar name YAAC Sample Plug-in version V0.1 SamplePluginProvider(org.ka2ddo.yaac.SamplePluginProvider in [file:/Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/plugins/sampleplugin.jar],dep=[]) activating plugin SamplePluginProvider name YAAC Sample Plug-in version V0.1 2025-04-09 11:54:37.984 java[30775:2007008] +[IMKClient subclass]: chose IMKClient_Modern 2025-04-09 11:54:37.984 java[30775:2007008] +[IMKInputSession subclass]: chose IMKInputSession_Modern Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: loading core GUI class.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC raising splash screen.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: load beacon definitions.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: load status definition.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: creating SymAttr objects for 1.0.1... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: filling in text for 1.0.1 symbols... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: set up raw packet data model.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: starting web server... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: YAAC starting main GUI.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: fixing JavaHelp linking... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: setting up common GUI table models... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: starting bulletin board monitor... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: starting firstWindow=map OpenMap(tm) Version 5.1.15 Copyright (C) BBNT Solutions LLC. All rights reserved. See for details. Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: creating top map toolbar... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: 1744217678759: starting to load symbol images... 1744217685804: finished loading 1.0.1 basic symbol images... Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: 1744217685805: done loading symbols. Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: adding map scale widget... Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: adding blinkenlight panel... Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: creating map footer... Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: setting up map hot-keys... Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: sizing alternate map window... Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: YAAC Macifying main menu bar.... registered AboutHandler by Apple proprietary classes registered QuitHandler by Apple proprietary classes registered PreferencesHandler by Apple proprietary classes UI L&F=com.apple.laf.AquaLookAndFeel Aqua Look and Feel for Mac OS X sun.swing.DefaultLayoutStyle@19fe4644 System L&F=com.apple.laf.AquaLookAndFeel Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: YAAC: GUI instantiated, now setting up GUI.... |
Re: next beat build#210 of YAC, created 2025-Apr-09
Andrew, Thank you for all that you do.? This is truly a great application and your willingness to enhance and improve based on user feedback really speaks to your love of this application. Keep up the great work!!!! Scott - W2KP On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 5:24?AM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote: next beta build #210 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2025-Apr-09 |
Re: OSX Sequoia
I am running an M1 Mac OSX 15.3.2 and installed it as shown for a Mac. ?However, my installation froze at the location shown below. ?
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Am I missing a dependency or something to get YAAC running on this Mac. ?
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Please let me know it would be helpful during bad weather. ?
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Tim
KM4ESU
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timhuffaker@Mac-mini Yaac % java -jar YAAC.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAACBootstrap starting... os.name=Mac OS X os.version=15.3.2 os.arch=x86_64 locale=en_US java.version=1.8.0_441 java.class.version=52.0 JVM: Oracle Corporation Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 25.441-b07 java.class.path=YAAC.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAACBootstrap finding installation directory.... JSSC found at /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/lib/jssc-2.9.4.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: starting YAAC.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC initializing on Mac OS X 15.3.2 [x86_64] with Java 1.8.0_441, 8 cores, heap=5331/251392/3728384KWed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC finding installation directory.... JSSC found at /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/lib/jssc-2.9.4.jar Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: load cached preferences.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC checking if upgrader needs moving.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC loading CoreProvider.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: CoreProvider instantiated. activating plugin --core-- name YAAC version 1.0-beta191(13-Nov-2023) Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC loading plugins.... scanning plugin JAR file /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/plugins/sampleplugin.jar attempting to load provider class org.ka2ddo.yaac.SamplePluginProvider loading plugin /Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/plugins/sampleplugin.jar name YAAC Sample Plug-in version V0.1 SamplePluginProvider(org.ka2ddo.yaac.SamplePluginProvider in [file:/Users/timhuffaker/YAAC/plugins/sampleplugin.jar],dep=[]) activating plugin SamplePluginProvider name YAAC Sample Plug-in version V0.1 2025-04-09 11:54:37.984 java[30775:2007008] +[IMKClient subclass]: chose IMKClient_Modern 2025-04-09 11:54:37.984 java[30775:2007008] +[IMKInputSession subclass]: chose IMKInputSession_Modern ? Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: loading core GUI class.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:37 CDT 2025: YAAC raising splash screen.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: load beacon definitions.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: load status definition.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: creating SymAttr objects for 1.0.1... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: filling in text for 1.0.1 symbols... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: set up raw packet data model.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: starting web server... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: YAAC starting main GUI.... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: fixing JavaHelp linking... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: setting up common GUI table models... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: starting bulletin board monitor... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: starting firstWindow=map OpenMap(tm) Version 5.1.15 ? Copyright (C) BBNT Solutions LLC.? All rights reserved. ? See http://openmap-java.org/ for details. ? Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: creating top map toolbar... Wed Apr 09 11:54:38 CDT 2025: 1744217678759: starting to load symbol images... 1744217685804: finished loading 1.0.1 basic symbol images... Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: 1744217685805: done loading symbols. Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: adding map scale widget... Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: adding blinkenlight panel... Wed Apr 09 11:54:45 CDT 2025: creating map footer... Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: setting up map hot-keys... Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: sizing alternate map window... Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: YAAC Macifying main menu bar.... ?? registered AboutHandler by Apple proprietary classes ?? registered QuitHandler by Apple proprietary classes ?? registered PreferencesHandler by Apple proprietary classes UI L&F=com.apple.laf.AquaLookAndFeel ?? Aqua Look and Feel for Mac OS X ?? sun.swing.DefaultLayoutStyle@19fe4644 System L&F=com.apple.laf.AquaLookAndFeel Wed Apr 09 11:54:46 CDT 2025: YAAC: GUI instantiated, now setting up GUI.... ? |
next beat build#210 of YAC, created 2025-Apr-09
next beta build #210 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2025-Apr-09
downloadable from changes and updates include: 1. stop auto-appending a carriage-return character to position messages. 2. fix NullPointerException for non-GPS stations using compressed-format position reports, and fix the encoding of speed for GPS-using stations using compressed format. Add unit tests to build system so that correct compressed-mode positions will be verified in regression tests. 3. fix broken hyperlinks in the YAAC source code Javadocs and in the built-in help files. 4. fix debug category ordering stability and NullPointerExceptions caused in the debug control plugin. 5. fix startup race condition for loading the digipeat alias catalog. 6. prevent listing national weather message destinations as drop-down choices for sending APRS text messages. 7. properly handle non-APRS and non-OpenTRAC position messages in the station histories. Such stations can come from the TAK plugin. 8. fix table update errors for local objects table. 9. fix NullPointerExceptions in Radio View when receiving connected-mode control packets (S-frames). 10. fix updating of pre-populated drop-down lists for message sending panels to not get frozen against further updates after the drop-down is used once. 11. fix ObjectEditor to not allow Save or OK buttons until the edited Object has a name. 12. fix NullPointerExceptions when sorting station and packet histories for packets without bodies. 13. fix RailroadStroke so it can be scaled up when a railroad-related amenity is highlighted on the map. 14. fix sort order on Station/Object list when user chooses to sort by age. 15. fix match list logic to properly handle clicking on local objects on the map without any packet history. 16. fix topographic tile download dialog to update the "map" of which tiles have already been downloaded, so the "map" won't freeze before finishing the Southern hemisphere. 17. fix OSM rendering bugs for "holes" in a solid Way, and when rendering shorelines and coastlines that are given the size of the landmass they surround (rather than the width of the beach the shorelines identify). 18. some performance improvements for OSM obstruction finder (used by line-of-sight views and AREDN plugin). 19. improve performance of nearest-point-on-OSM-Way calculator (used by dynamic objects plugin to fit a route to exact streets). 20. clean up the UI prompts and menu choices to be grammatically correct. 21. fix ADS-B plugin to support the alternate raw packet format provided by FlightRadar ADS-B receivers (as opposed to the format provided by the rtl_adsb and dump1090 programs). Add regression unit tests and debug logging to verify the packet parsing. 22. add support for AREDN node configuration's AGL height value, so inter-node propagation can be calculated better. 23. fix dynamic objects plugin to properly update the plugin's table views, and more efficiently fit a coarse set of route vertices to OpenStreetMap ways (roads, etc.). 24. optionally have dynamic objects route importer extract waypoints from a GPX file and convert into private APRS Objects on the map. 25. add the debugging option (from a JVM command-line system property) to number the vertices of a dynamic route on the map. 26. fix Mac OS X "right-mouse-click" issues in repeater finder plugin, and apply bugfixes in main YAAC station renderer to repeater finder map. 27. fix inter-plugin linking error for newer Java runtime versions in the small screen plugin. 28. fix packet rendering of packets received by TAK plugin. Also fill in reasonable defaults in TAK port configuration panel. 29. fix the built-in help files for the weather alert plugin to work correctly with the other help files. |
Re: Weird rendering of OSM for Guatemala
Well, this one is sure weird. I finally tracked it down to the OSM Relation#272896, the shoreline of Grande-Terre of Guadaloupe. For some reason (not seen elsewhere for islands in OSM), this shoreline is given a length and width, which is being rendered as the width of the beach along the shoreline, rather than as the length and width of the whole landmass. Since the width of the island is listed as 35000 meters, that draws the shoreline as a stripe that overlaps in the center of the island and extends beyond the coastline into the Caribbean Sea by 17500 meters (yes, over 10 statute miles). Hence the huge brown stain on the map that still has an irregular boundary (an amplified version of what the actual shoreline looks like).
I'm not sure how to fix this, except possibly ignoring OSM width values for shorelines and coastlines (assuming they are infinitely thin at the water's edge halfway between high and low tide). The boxed-out white area where there should be the Caribbean Sea is still my issues with the osmcoastline utility. I will take another try at fixing that when I bring in the latest snapshot of the OSM data and import it. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric H. Christensen via groups.io <wg3k@...> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2025 10:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Weird rendering of OSM for Guatemala ??♂?This is what happens when I try to compute too late at night. Of course Guadeloupe. ? 73, Eric WG3K FM18rpPacket: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM E-Mail: wg3k@... GPG: D5A62094161B8C5D2A13E96EBA220AE2C4D9A50E -------- Original Message -------- On 4/6/25 00:07, Andrew P. via groups.io <andrewemt@...> wrote: Are you sure that's Guatemala in Central America? It looks more like an island somewhere in the southern Caribbean (especially given the border line bubbling around it labeled America/Puerto_Rico timezone). What latitude and longitude were you at? |
Re: Weird rendering of OSM for Guatemala
??♂?This is what happens when I try to compute too late at night. Of course Guadeloupe. ?
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73, Eric WG3K FM18rpPacket: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM E-Mail: wg3k@... GPG: D5A62094161B8C5D2A13E96EBA220AE2C4D9A50E -------- Original Message --------
On 4/6/25 00:07, Andrew P. via groups.io <andrewemt@...> wrote: Are you sure that's Guatemala in Central America? It looks more like an island somewhere in the southern Caribbean (especially given the border line bubbling around it labeled America/Puerto_Rico timezone). What latitude and longitude were you at? |
Re: Weird rendering of OSM for Guatemala
The text in the image says it's the French West Indies, with Point-a-pitre being the central city. That island is otherwise known as Guadeloupe. KH6CP On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 5:00?PM Eric H. Christensen via <wg3k=[email protected]> wrote: I'm seeing a very strange rendering of OSM data for Guatemala.? I looked at the OSM data and can't figure why it looks so strange (see attached). |
Re: Weird rendering of OSM for Guatemala
Are you sure that's Guatemala in Central America? It looks more like an island somewhere in the southern Caribbean (especially given the border line bubbling around it labeled America/Puerto_Rico timezone). What latitude and longitude were you at?
As for the weird square ocean chop-off, I've been trying to fix that for years. Between the dingbats and vandals breaking coastline segments so the math doesn't work right, plus the peculiar way the osmcoastline utility segments the oceans into pieces that don't exceed maximum vertex counts, I've never gotten a completely correct ocean plotting. The brown splotch is probably a protected area or marine park; click on it to see what it is identified to be. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric H. Christensen via groups.io <wg3k@...> Sent: Saturday, April 5, 2025 11:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Weird rendering of OSM for Guatemala I'm seeing a very strange rendering of OSM data for Guatemala. I looked at the OSM data and can't figure why it looks so strange (see attached). 73, Eric WG3K FM18rp Packet: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM E-Mail: wg3k@... GPG: D5A62094161B8C5D2A13E96EBA220AE2C4D9A50E |
Re: ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24)
That was interesting. Not only was it fixable, but your FlightRadar ADS-B receiver seems to be doing a much better job of receiving ADS-B frames without errors than my old RTL-SDR is. When I added unit test code to verify both packet formats would be accepted, I received no checksum errors on the packets you sent me (except where the CRC was overloaded to carry an identifier in old Mode S packets), but I had a ton of checksum errors coming out of my RTL-SDR. Probably lousy reception here due to terrain (like I can stand in my backyard and look _down_ at the antennas on my house roof, the slope is so steep) and no nearby aircraft because the wind is currently blowing the wrong way for the instrument approach that goes over my house (the few non-erroneous packets I received showed aircraft at 30600 feet altitude when the airport is at 36 feet elevation MSL, so they are probably staying above the Class B airspace).
Anyway, the plugin fix will be released with the next build of YAAC. But if you want to try it now, I've attached the updated plugin file for your convenience. It's in a ZIP file so email filters won't get annoyed; you'll have to unzip it to get the JAR file out to put in your plugins directory. Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Andrew P. via groups.io <andrewemt@...> Sent: Friday, April 4, 2025 10:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24) It was more than a leading symbol, but it was worth it to re-review the ADS-B plugin code, which I haven't looked at for a few years. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jamie H via groups.io <wa7jh@...> Sent: Friday, April 4, 2025 5:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24) Andrew, Before you go through that work, are the packets correct other than the leading symbol? I have been playing around with the different ADS-B receivers and found some play well together and others do not. FR24 provides it's own build. RF24 has a very clean UI and feeder compensation plan. Not to mention a cool support crew. The reason I like them. So cool if you want to support their feed, but please don't do that work if the work is more than the leading symbol. |
Re: ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24)
It was more than a leading symbol, but it was worth it to re-review the ADS-B plugin code, which I haven't looked at for a few years.
________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jamie H via groups.io <wa7jh@...> Sent: Friday, April 4, 2025 5:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24) Andrew, Before you go through that work, are the packets correct other than the leading symbol? I have been playing around with the different ADS-B receivers and found some play well together and others do not. FR24 provides it's own build. RF24 has a very clean UI and feeder compensation plan. Not to mention a cool support crew. The reason I like them. So cool if you want to support their feed, but please don't do that work if the work is more than the leading symbol. |
Re: ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24)
Andrew,
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Before you go through that work, are the packets correct other than the leading symbol?
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I have been playing around with the different ADS-B receivers and found some play well together and others do not. FR24 provides it's own build. RF24 has a very clean UI and feeder compensation plan. Not to mention a cool support crew. The reason I like them. So cool if you want to support their feed, but please don't do that work if the work is more than the leading symbol. |
Re: ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24)
That's interesting. Your raw packet feed records start with '@', but the ADS-B plugin for YAAC expected them to start with '*' (as the rtl_adsb program produces). I will tweak the ADS-B plugin to accept either record prefix; this will be released with the next build of YAAC.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jamie H via groups.io <wa7jh@...> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 11:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24) [Edited Message Follows] Andrew, Thank you for the quick reply. I see when using PUTTY, via a telnet connection to the PI address and the 30002 port, a stream of stuff, but nothing shows on the YAAC map. Here is a quick snippet. @001447DE7C5C8DADBDC123053079CB4820141706; @001447DED9728DA86E1DEA1D68B8015E88F42120; @001447DEF05102A18615722A6F; @001447E0473B02A18615722A6F; @001447E7F1EF02060D3D67D8CA; @001447E86ED38DA8A82F9910401F70C0078B4E78; @001447E9C9938DA56DCF9909098E78080558B521; @001447ED9BD6020003B71940C3; @001447F05DDF5DA86E1D4CEC0E; @001447F376CE8DA8A82F581F3731CD80050D91FD; @001447F4092F028183B30A4B7B; @001447F701EA8DA76DF8584307359D8CAD6948AB; @001447FAA8C38DA76DF8990CD89DD82803B19B7A; @00144803D71D5DA76DF8EBFD6E; @00144807DF1302E6141046BB20; @0014480935055DC0360EFEFEA5; @0014480D7FEB8DA56DCFEA11A8C0013C0847DFB7; @0014480FED948DADBDC1F8230006004AB8F03218; @0014481878818DA5CF82F8230006004AB8551238; @0014481909928DA86E1D583163E9E0CE725F8F65; @0014481B160D02C1883015E2AC; |
Re: ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24)
Andrew,
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Thank you for the quick reply.
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I see when using PUTTY, via a telnet connection to the PI address and the 30002 port, a stream of stuff, but nothing shows on the YAAC map.
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Here is a quick snippet.
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? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447DE7C5C8DADBDC123053079CB4820141706;
? ?@001447DED9728DA86E1DEA1D68B8015E88F42120; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447DEF05102A18615722A6F; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447E0473B02A18615722A6F; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447E7F1EF02060D3D67D8CA; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447E86ED38DA8A82F9910401F70C0078B4E78; ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447E9C9938DA56DCF9909098E78080558B521; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447ED9BD6020003B71940C3; ?@001447F05DDF5DA86E1D4CEC0E; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447F376CE8DA8A82F581F3731CD80050D91FD; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447F4092F028183B30A4B7B; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447F701EA8DA76DF8584307359D8CAD6948AB; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@001447FAA8C38DA76DF8990CD89DD82803B19B7A; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@00144803D71D5DA76DF8EBFD6E; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@00144807DF1302E6141046BB20; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@0014480935055DC0360EFEFEA5; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@0014480D7FEB8DA56DCFEA11A8C0013C0847DFB7; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@0014480FED948DADBDC1F8230006004AB8F03218; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@0014481878818DA5CF82F8230006004AB8551238; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@0014481909928DA86E1D583163E9E0CE725F8F65; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?@0014481B160D02C1883015E2AC; ?
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Re: ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24)
You'd want to connect to port 30002 to get the raw data. YAAC ADS-B decoder plugin processes the raw data itself.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jamie H via groups.io <wa7jh@...> Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 7:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] ADS-B - FlightRadar24 (FR24) Has anyone had any luck with using the TCP socket to FLightRadar24? Here are the options from the connection: [cid:[email protected]] If I use Putty and telnet to these, there is data there. Just not sure what data it wants? |
Re: Beacon not shown on Map 1.0-beta209
hi Andrew,
thanks for your reply because after i made a submission to yaac-users i thought my posting got lost.
i found your software from a youtube video at a conference you did many years ago.
what a wonderful product you have created for the community.
i didn't see any request for financial support;? is the there one ?
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i am sorry my description was so unclear, as i try hard to convey my issues to anyone whom i am asking help from.
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#1? 'in the Beacon <TAB> i created a new beacon with - X Enabled station beacon Beacon Type: position, manual lat/lon, Display symbol: \#
the remaining setting are unchanged. [ however in the included image of 'southYampa' beacon below, i have subsequently changed the "Stable slow repeat rate (sec):" to a lower value, thinking this setting would increase the frequency of transmissions; after my first posting to yaac-users ]
lastly i pressed the 'Save Changes button.' ?
i was working on the page with the Beacon <TAB>.
the 'X' was suppose to represent a 'check-mark' in the checkbox marked "Enabled station beacon"; i guess it should been done like this:?? [x]
the "Beacon Type" was set to 'position'
i manually entered the lat/lon
and the "Display symbol" was entered as '\#'
the remaining settings were left as defaults.
lastly i pressed the "Save Changes" button.
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so yes, i believe i have made the changes correctly and saved them.
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#2 "How many beacon definitions do you have?" i have only defined one additional beacon (including the default beacon, there are 2 total).
yes, i have it check-marked as enabled before saving the beacon definition.
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#3 "On your APRS-IS and KISS-over-TCP ports, are they enabled for transmit?"
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#3 cont. - the sequence i followed was to first setup the Beacon, then set up the Ports.
as stated in my first posting:
"if i return to the Beacon <TAB> the Enable station beacon - no longer has a check in the box,
the Display symbol - textbox is empty/blank" ?
what i failed to say is that upon returning to the Beacon settings, the Default beacon is enabled as shown here:
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upon returning to the 'southYampa' Beacon, the setting have been disabled
and the "Display symbol" is removed even though i previously had applied the "Save Changes" button.
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my issues might occurring because i am unclear as to how the "Selected? Digipeat Paths in Proportional Path Order" are supposed to be setup. are these used in addition to the "Standard Digipeat Paths" ?
is the second group (Selected? Digipeat Paths in Proportional Path Order) creating some type of priority from the first group ("Standard Digipeat Paths" )
these settings may be related to the serial port setting problem i mention in my answer #4
what i mean here, is there something in the two groups above that should be add OR related to the serial port in order for digipeating ?
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#4 thank you for explaining this as i was not seeing my "Display symbol" icon on the map.
i would like to follow up on this sub-topic later because as you may have seen i have not been able to properly configure the serial port,
which i assume is required to have YAAC to operate as a DigiPeater.
p.s. i was afraid to add any more text or images of the serial port for concern that my posting here might crash after spending allthis time on it; so i am sending it without proofing it ? ? ? ;(
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thanks you Andrew for this fantastic program and i would like to support it financially, please let me know how.
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