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Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
Bob Morrow
Yes, 4.2.06_setup.exe was what I used.
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The other questions: 1 - no 2, 3 - not getting that screen, so no. It goes straight to the Windows UAC prompt. 4 - Windows' UAC did show up, I clicked on Yes. 5 - I didn't see anything after the UAC prompt. Nothing. 6 - Taskbar is not minimized, ribbon is not minimized to the window. I didn't see anything. I do have the taskbar set to show up at the TOP of the screen, but that shouldn't matter. 7 - no aftermarket antivirus or other security stuff. All of the Windows security stuff is at the default settings, I think. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ) Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2024 9:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [winfldigi] double-clicking setup.exe does nothing Interesting. Are you trying to install using: fldigi-4.2.06_setup.exe -which is the latest non-alpha or beta code? 1. Are you getting a blue pop-up screen trying to stop you? 2. Are you selecting “More options� on that screen? 3. When you do that, do you get another blue screen that gives you the choice of backing out or selecting “Install anyway�? 4. When you do the install anyway, you should get the standard Window UAC panel asking you to confirm installation- 5. If you say yes, you will next get the fldigi installer panel and can select some install options and complete the install. 6 If you don’t see that “permissions� panel in 4 above, then look to see if the window is minimized to your Taskbar and open it, then proceed. Let us know where what you see deviates from that sequence. It should work unless you have a 3rd party security app and/or the Windows security stuff cranked up and blocking everything. Jack - KD4IZ On Dec 11, 2024, at 20:30, Bob Morrow <bobmorrow@...> wrote: |
Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
This is an important point regarding W11. I don't see it often on W10, but I am regularly wondering what happened to my installation...then when I check the taskbar, I find it in the 'background'. It took me months to develop the habit of checking the taskbar when my installation dialog 'disappeared'. Now it's my go to.
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On 2024-12-11 19:57:, Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ) wrote:
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Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
You can't please all the people all the time <grin>. Not sniping. I have been supporting fldigi users for years, and I never recommend using the installer. Our local ARES group publishes a zip file that provides a complete installation when it is unzipped...an installation tailored to our needs. Unzip it where you want it.
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But I still get folks who ask why it needs to be so complicated...unzipping an archive, that is...sigh...little is as simple as unzipping a file in the computer world. They ask "Why can't we just install it?" They can. But that brings its own ~potential~ for headaches, as we see here. One of the local hams has created an installer package that unzips the local zip file !!!! and places a shortcut on the desktop, or summat. I havna seen it yet. It's not uncommon for an installer to be an exe that can be unzipped. For me, it's the best of both worlds. YMMV, for sure. So in summary, fldigi is both a 'normal' zip file, but with an 'exe' extension, AND an installer. I havna looked at the fldigi docs lately to see what it says right up front about this, but OTOH, I think that the docs ~should~ address this on page 1, and OTO, I realize that most folks just want to download a file and run it, without reading anything...and then spend the time figuring out what they did. It's pretty much what we see everywhere...and I even get feedback from companies I contact about user docs that says exactly that...they find that most folks don't read the docs at all, even when they have a problem. Much easier to post the same question for the 99th time on some forum, without even searching the forum for answers, than it is to read anything. I taught HS thru uni from 1990 to 2015, and I was surprised at first to hear students...top students, at that...say right up front that they don't read their textbooks. Too much trouble. They figure that faculty will spoon-feed them everything in class that they could have already learned from their texts. In fact, I was 'reviewed' in one of my uni classes after many complaints from students. The department head then called me in to discuss the results. "Prof Messeder expects us to read the text out of class." He just looked at me stunned. How can a uni student ~actually~ write this, he wondered? They were pretty much all like that. (BTW, it was spot on...I don't teach the text. I teach the material. Students are responsible for reading and understanding the text, because they will be tested on it.) Oops...lots of social commentary there, but that's the state of the state, so to speak. ~R~ On 2024-12-11 19:53:, Bob Morrow wrote:
Now, why isn't the fldigi Windows file a 'normal' .ZIP file? |
Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
Hello Bob, Glad this was helpful. I still 'live' in a happy Win7 World that actually helps users achieve their goal rather than trying to trick them out and make them feel like doing something wrong. I did try Win10 before and know very well what you complain about. I assume it is a matter of how the cross-compiler (remember FLdidi is developed on Linux!) into Windows compiles the setup.exe. As here on Win7, it used to work just fine like a genuine Windows installer program, but M$oft has been infamous of ever more deviating from their good old previous 'standards' and thus just does not do anymore, what used to be 'normal' and expected by their users. Keeping up with ever changing behavior this from another operating system is more than hard hard, I would assume. So I have kind of put up with such oddities (to be very polite) and try find my ways to circumvent them best I can. Zip-like exe files are not unusual, and quite a few other setups and even normal program applications can be opened via 7zip. Not all make sense this way, but luckily FLdigi setup does... Good luck and enjoy FLdigi and Ham Radio ;-) 73s from Bavaria SWL Tobias .-.-. Am Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2024 um 01:53:39 MEZ hat Bob Morrow <bobmorrow@...> Folgendes geschrieben: Tobias- Thanks, that fixed the problem! Now, why isn't the fldigi Windows file a 'normal' .ZIP file? I'm sure there are many more like me with this problem. (I don't expect you to know the answer; kind of wondering out loud there.)
On 12/11/24 2:32 PM, T² via groups.io wrote: Hi Bob, Never mind, it's the 'usual' Windows 'Double Trouble'. But yes, it's an archive. Please get yourself the free and (IMHO) most versatile 7zip (7z) archive manager, and with it, you can right click and open the setup.exe as an archive and copy the updated files to your respective FLdigi folder. Check it out at . This is what most FLdigi users do anyway, because you actually see and decide, what will be copied where. Much better than a 'blind' update in the background! Hope this helps. 73s Tobias .-.-. Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2024 um 22:03:27 MEZ hat Bob Morrow <bobmorrow@...> Folgendes geschrieben: I have the very same problem described here: [email protected] | Double-clicking setup.exe does nothing but I can’t seem to post there.
I’m running Win 10 pro 64-bit. When I click on setup.exe, I get the Windows user account control warning about running an app from an unknown publisher, I say Yes to it, and nothing happens. This happens on another Win 10 Pro 64-bit unit as well.
The file I’m using is fldigi_4.2.06_setup.exe from
-- Bob N7PTM “Number 7 Pegs The Meter�
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Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
Interesting. Are you trying to install using:
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fldigi-4.2.06_setup.exe -which is the latest non-alpha or beta code? 1. Are you getting a blue pop-up screen trying to stop you? 2. Are you selecting “More options� on that screen? 3. When you do that, do you get another blue screen that gives you the choice of backing out or selecting “Install anyway�? 4. When you do the install anyway, you should get the standard Window UAC panel asking you to confirm installation- 5. If you say yes, you will next get the fldigi installer panel and can select some install options and complete the install. 6 If you don’t see that “permissions� panel in 4 above, then look to see if the window is minimized to your Taskbar and open it, then proceed. Let us know where what you see deviates from that sequence. It should work unless you have a 3rd party security app and/or the Windows security stuff cranked up and blocking everything. Jack - KD4IZ On Dec 11, 2024, at 20:30, Bob Morrow <bobmorrow@...> wrote: |
Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
Bob Morrow
I don't see that at all.
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They should make it a regular .zip file. The help files are, so the executable should be as well. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ) Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2024 5:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [winfldigi] double-clicking setup.exe does nothing Bob, On both my Win11 box and my now deprecated Win10 box I get the same “apparent� result� however, if you look in the taskbar ribbon, you will see an icon for the minimized installer waiting for you to OK the installation. If you don’t see it in the taskbar, check the task manager. Either way, you should be able to bring it up onscreen and tell it to finish the installation. Jack - KD4IZ |
Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
Bob,
On both my Win11 box and my now deprecated Win10 box I get the same “apparent� result� however, if you look in the taskbar ribbon, you will see an icon for the minimized installer waiting for you to OK the installation. If you don’t see it in the taskbar, check the task manager. Either way, you should be able to bring it up onscreen and tell it to finish the installation. Jack - KD4IZ |
Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
Bob Morrow
Tobias- Thanks, that fixed the problem! Now, why isn't the fldigi Windows file a 'normal' .ZIP file? I'm
sure there are many more like me with this problem. (I don't
expect you to know the answer; kind of wondering out loud there.)
On 12/11/24 2:32 PM, T² via groups.io
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Re: Soundcard calibration for TX ppm
Mike Black
Mike W9MDB
On Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 12:45:13 PM CST, Mark KE8NHT Ohio via groups.io <ke8nht@...> wrote:
The rig is an IC-7300 using the internal soundcard. I didn't think +127 was much of a correction - I've had previous setups with much larger correction. If there's a procedure to calibrate the radio, I'm certainly open to giving that a shot. For now, receive works quite well.
I did calibrate the TX ppm with another user who, I believe, had already calibrated the receive system. I'd like to find a way to do this accurately off-air. I'm unaware of a way to get the transmit audio from the radio which would be the only way to accurately calibrate the transmit audio through the radio's internal soundcard. The TX ppm worked out to around +225, although probably not quite as accurately set as the RX ppm. Obviously, using the calibrated RX value helped but wasn't very close.
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Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
I believe clicking on Yes in the warning dialog means you accept the Windows conclusion that the installer file is unsafe, and so it doesn't run it. If the warning message gives you a "More info" link, you need to click on that and then in the "more info" dialog tell it to run the program anyway despite the warning. If it doesn't give you such a link, you might try looking at the Properties of the downloaded file for a notification to the effect that the file has been blocked because it might be unsafe, in which case there should be a button to unblock the file after which you should be able to run it.
73,
Rich VE3KI
On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 04:03 PM, Bob Morrow wrote:
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Re: double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
Hi Bob, Never mind, it's the 'usual' Windows 'Double Trouble'. But yes, it's an archive. Please get yourself the free and (IMHO) most versatile 7zip (7z) archive manager, and with it, you can right click and open the setup.exe as an archive and copy the updated files to your respective FLdigi folder. Check it out at www.7-zip.org. This is what most FLdigi users do anyway, because you actually see and decide, what will be copied where. Much better than a 'blind' update in the background! Hope this helps. 73s Tobias .-.-. Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2024 um 22:03:27 MEZ hat Bob Morrow <bobmorrow@...> Folgendes geschrieben: I have the very same problem described here: [email protected] | Double-clicking setup.exe does nothing but I can’t seem to post there.
I’m running Win 10 pro 64-bit. When I click on setup.exe, I get the Windows user account control warning about running an app from an unknown publisher, I say Yes to it, and nothing happens. This happens on another Win 10 Pro 64-bit unit as well.
The file I’m using is fldigi_4.2.06_setup.exe from
-- Bob N7PTM “Number 7 Pegs The Meter�
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double-clicking setup.exe does nothing
I have the very same problem described here: [email protected] | Double-clicking setup.exe does nothing but I can’t seem to post there. I’m running Win 10 pro 64-bit. When I click on setup.exe, I get the Windows user account control warning about running an app from an unknown publisher, I say Yes to it, and nothing happens. This happens on another Win 10 Pro 64-bit unit as well.
The file I’m using is fldigi_4.2.06_setup.exe from -- Bob N7PTM “Number 7 Pegs The Meter� |
Re: Soundcard calibration for TX ppm
The rig is an IC-7300 using the internal soundcard. I didn't think +127 was much of a correction - I've had previous setups with much larger correction. If there's a procedure to calibrate the radio, I'm certainly open to giving that a shot. For now, receive works quite well.
I did calibrate the TX ppm with another user who, I believe, had already calibrated the receive system. I'd like to find a way to do this accurately off-air. I'm unaware of a way to get the transmit audio from the radio which would be the only way to accurately calibrate the transmit audio through the radio's internal soundcard. The TX ppm worked out to around +225, although probably not quite as accurately set as the RX ppm. Obviously, using the calibrated RX value helped but wasn't very close.
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FLrig Remotely Accessed Scanning Script
I am trying to help out someone who is looking to use the JNOS bbs with
FLrig/FLdigi and have the HF radio scan groups of frequencies waiting for connections. The group of frequencies will change based on time of day for propagation changes. For example, 80 meters during evening or overnight and 40 meters during daylight. The FLdigi would be the modem and the FLrig would do all of the radio control functions. We can set up scripting with JNOS and have it communicate with FLrig/FLdigi via TCP/IP. Is this doable and where can I find the commands needed to make it happen to build out the script? Thanks. -- Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord. NYC-ARECS/RACES Nets 441.100/136.5 PL ARnewsline Broadcast Mon. @ 8:00PM NYC-ARECS Weekly Net Mon. @ 8:30PM NY-NBEMS Net Saturdays @ 10AM & USeast-NBEMS Net Wednesdays @ 7PM on 7.036 Mhz USB (alt 3.536)/1500 hz waterfall spot; MFSK-16 or 32 "Information is the oxygen of the modern age. It seeps through the walls topped by barbed wire, it wafts across the electrified borders." - Ronald Reagan "The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus "Molann an obair an fear" - Irish Saying (The work praises the man.) "No matter how big and powerful government gets, and the many services it provides, it can never take the place of volunteers." - Ronald Reagan |
Re: HELP WITH A RUN TIME ERROR
Steve and Barry thanks for your interest. This morning I got up and decided to try an use Winlink and VarAC by starting the software using Run As Administrator and both programs opened and worked as tested. In VarAC the Com Port 3 did save upon exit and was still on Com Port 3 when I started VarAC again. VARA opened and I did not get the Run Time Error.
The short conclusion is Winlink and VarAC worked using Run As Administrator and if I have to do this on the Win 10 machine that's ok by me. I do not know enough about using Run As Administrator to determine why it works so not sure if considered a work around. Fldigi opens normally executing the icon on desktop.
The good news is I can use the digital programs on this Win 10 machine. Barry - The Win 7 machine works on digital programs, laptop stays in one place and I do not use for anything else. Plus it is an old heavy Toshiba laptop. I have other computers to use.
Steve I have deinstalled Winlink and VarAC and reinstalled and maybe I did not get all the remnants so I will try again and take a deeper look. Nothing wrong with doing that and I can rename the Freq Dir and other and save to thumb drive if I decide.
Steve, I will let you know results as I can do the deinstall this weekend. This sounds strange but my computer knowledge has greatly improved trying to get digital programs functioning through all the variables computers presents and I share what I learned with others. Thanks again Mick N3OJP
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Re: HELP WITH A RUN TIME ERROR
In my experience you will not resolve this problem by troubleshooting. I recommend you uninstall VARA HF (and FM if you've installed it) and all VARA utilities including VARAC. Then wipe out all of the directories. Some would tell you to search the registry and delete any VARA entry there. If you choose to do that, backup your registry first.) Then reboot the computer and reinstall the VARA HF and FM modems first and test your Winlink Express configuration. If that works you can rebuild the rest of your VARA configuration. 73 de K3FZT / Steve -- Steve Davidson K3FZT | GMRS: WRVS468Winlink Gateway K3FZT-10@...direct or via W3EOC-3 Supporting VARA FM Wide/1200bd Packet WIRES-X Room #85218 "MARC-DARBY" 444.050 mHz K3FZT@...FN20ja On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 7:54 AM Barry Feierman <k3euibarry@...> wrote:
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HELP WITH A RUN TIME ERROR
MickN3OJP I have never encountered a “run time error� so have no advice, other than to keep asking folks more familiar with operating systems. I will copy your concern to folks who are pretty solid with FLDIGI. I would not complain if a Win 7 machine fails. Update! But my three Win10 computers (two desktops, one laptop) have never encountered a RUN TIME ERROR. Keep us in the loop. I would delete the PREFS file first, and start all over with FLDIGI. Barry Why am I getting a runtime error? Runtime errors can occurif you are running two software programs that are not compatible, if your computer has memory problems, or if the computer has been infected with malicious software. Therefore, I suggest you to check if there are any latest updates available for the program from the manufacturer's site.Aug 30, 2011 Barry On Dec 10, 2024, at 6:05 PM, MICHAEL PYZOHA <pyzoham@...> wrote:
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Re: Soundcard calibration for TX ppm
Hello Mark,
I hope the attached recipe will help... 73s Tobias .-.-. Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2024 um 19:19:13 MEZ hat Mark KE8NHT Ohio via groups.io <ke8nht@...> Folgendes geschrieben: I have calibrated my soundcard for receive using WWV to +127. What is the optimum method for determining the transmit ppm value? Other than sending an image to another station which has also been calibrated, then adjusting the value until the transmitted image is not skewed, I'm not finding a way. It seems there's probably an off-air method, but I'm not finding it. I don't think the help text covers setting the TX ppm value. I only discovered the need when I sent an image to an HF net and none of the stations received it correctly. Thanks and 73, Mark KE8NHT |
Re: Soundcard calibration for TX ppm
Mike Black
What rig do you have -- sounds like you need to calibrate the rig. The +127 is a lot to change on the receive side. Look in the service manual for how to do it. You can work with somebody who has also calibrated their receiver. Contact me off-list and I can watch your signal. Mike W9MDB
On Tuesday, December 10, 2024 at 12:19:13 PM CST, Mark KE8NHT Ohio via groups.io <ke8nht@...> wrote:
I have calibrated my soundcard for receive using WWV to +127. What is the optimum method for determining the transmit ppm value? Other than sending an image to another station which has also been calibrated, then adjusting the value until the transmitted image is not skewed, I'm not finding a way. It seems there's probably an off-air method, but I'm not finding it. I don't think the help text covers setting the TX ppm value. I only discovered the need when I sent an image to an HF net and none of the stations received it correctly.
Thanks and 73,
Mark KE8NHT
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Soundcard calibration for TX ppm
I have calibrated my soundcard for receive using WWV to +127. What is the optimum method for determining the transmit ppm value? Other than sending an image to another station which has also been calibrated, then adjusting the value until the transmitted image is not skewed, I'm not finding a way. It seems there's probably an off-air method, but I'm not finding it. I don't think the help text covers setting the TX ppm value. I only discovered the need when I sent an image to an HF net and none of the stations received it correctly.
Thanks and 73,
Mark KE8NHT |