Re: Fldigi and Yeasu FT-2980r
The FT2980r is a simple FM
transceiver without facility to be controlled by a computer.
David
On 9/19/21 1:49 PM, Bernard Bade wrote:
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I need Fldigi and Flrig settings and a XML file for a Yeasu
FT-2980r. What is the correct PTT setting? What is a 2980 default
baud rate, other necessary setting for the FT-2980r to use 2 meter
FM digital. Setting up to test a few digital modes in our area
that voice radio will not cover.
Thanks KE0DHO
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Re: Winfldigi Fails To Start
Juergen,
Understand. I don¡¯t know if that is an issue with fldigi or Windows. In any case Dave Freese is the one to deal with that. I¡¯m sure he reads everything here.
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On Sep 23, 2021, at 01:36, dl8le < dl8le@...> wrote:
Hello Cliff, the problem is not the anti-virus program, but it looks as if
FLDIGI doesn't accept non-English letters: after changing the
language and having a user named Juergen instead of J¨¹rgen the
program started and I could start to configure it. The way I
became aware of this as possible problem was the strange character
in the user name shown by the fatal error notice.
It would be nice if such a behaviour could be modified in one of
the next updates. There are many possible users which have a
similar issue with their user name on Windows as I have. 73 Juergen, DL8LE
Am 23.09.2021 um 00:38 schrieb Cliff:
Juergen,
I don¡¯t run Windows so am guessing here, but if you
have an anti-virus program running, close it while you do the
install. Maybe Windows required some permission to have the
install write to that directory?
If you want a complete uninstall then you need to
remove or rename the fldigi.files directory if it exists.
C:\Users\loginname\fldigi.files
On Sep 22, 2021, at 08:38, dl8le < dl8le@...>
wrote:
I wanted to install FLDIGI latest version on
my Windows 10 notebook today (latest Windows update) to
give it a try on a Windows device (I am using it already
on a Raspi 4). None of the last versions of FLDIGI from
Dave's website could be set up for running (install after
a complete deinstall of FLDIGI each time).
The program was installed but stopped with Fatal Error
"user .... fldigi.files .." could not be installed. A
manual creation of the folder fldigi.files did not bring
any success either.?
Any idea what Windows has caused here? A friend of mine
has the same problem that he is unable to use FLDIGI on
his W10 notebook any longer.
73
Juergen, DL8LE
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Re: Winfldigi Fails To Start
´³¨¹°ù²µ±ð²Ô,
Please refer to this on line fldigi help section.? It is specific to
your start up problem and provides a solution (there are others).
73, David, W1HKJ
On 9/23/21 1:36 AM, dl8le wrote:
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Hello Cliff,
the problem is not the anti-virus program, but it looks as if
FLDIGI doesn't accept non-English letters: after changing the
language and having a user named Juergen instead of J¨¹rgen the
program started and I could start to configure it. The way I
became aware of this as possible problem was the strange
character in the user name shown by the fatal error notice.
It would be nice if such a behaviour could be modified in one
of the next updates. There are many possible users which have a
similar issue with their user name on Windows as I have.
73
Juergen, DL8LE
Am 23.09.2021 um 00:38 schrieb Cliff:
Juergen,
I don¡¯t run Windows so am guessing here, but if
you have an anti-virus program running, close it while you do
the install. Maybe Windows required some permission to have
the install write to that directory?
If you want a complete uninstall then you need to
remove or rename the fldigi.files directory if it exists.
C:\Users\loginname\fldigi.files
On Sep 22, 2021, at 08:38, dl8le < dl8le@...>
wrote:
I wanted to install FLDIGI latest version on
my Windows 10 notebook today (latest Windows update) to
give it a try on a Windows device (I am using it already
on a Raspi 4). None of the last versions of FLDIGI from
Dave's website could be set up for running (install
after a complete deinstall of FLDIGI each time).
The program was installed but stopped with Fatal Error
"user .... fldigi.files .." could not be installed. A
manual creation of the folder fldigi.files did not bring
any success either.?
Any idea what Windows has caused here? A friend of mine
has the same problem that he is unable to use FLDIGI on
his W10 notebook any longer.
73
Juergen, DL8LE
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Jeff,
Before that, read and follow carefully this wiki on setting up the 7300. It will cover everything to get it going properly. Once it is setup like this then if you¡¯re still having issues please get back to the group. There¡¯s a number of 7300 users here that can help.
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On Sep 22, 2021, at 22:31, Jeff Freedman < k7jfjeff@...> wrote:
Cliff, I hate like heck to ask, but would you (or anyone else) have some time one of these days to get on Zoom and help me get this 7300 set up correctly.
I really appreciate any help here, please.
Thanks again - Jeff
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Re: Winfldigi Fails To Start
Hello Cliff,
the problem is not the anti-virus program, but it looks as if
FLDIGI doesn't accept non-English letters: after changing the
language and having a user named Juergen instead of J¨¹rgen the
program started and I could start to configure it. The way I
became aware of this as possible problem was the strange character
in the user name shown by the fatal error notice.
It would be nice if such a behaviour could be modified in one of
the next updates. There are many possible users which have a
similar issue with their user name on Windows as I have.
73
Juergen, DL8LE
Am 23.09.2021 um 00:38 schrieb Cliff:
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Juergen,
I don¡¯t run Windows so am guessing here, but if you
have an anti-virus program running, close it while you do the
install. Maybe Windows required some permission to have the
install write to that directory?
If you want a complete uninstall then you need to
remove or rename the fldigi.files directory if it exists.
C:\Users\loginname\fldigi.files
On Sep 22, 2021, at 08:38, dl8le < dl8le@...>
wrote:
I wanted to install FLDIGI latest version on
my Windows 10 notebook today (latest Windows update) to
give it a try on a Windows device (I am using it already
on a Raspi 4). None of the last versions of FLDIGI from
Dave's website could be set up for running (install after
a complete deinstall of FLDIGI each time).
The program was installed but stopped with Fatal Error
"user .... fldigi.files .." could not be installed. A
manual creation of the folder fldigi.files did not bring
any success either.?
Any idea what Windows has caused here? A friend of mine
has the same problem that he is unable to use FLDIGI on
his W10 notebook any longer.
73
Juergen, DL8LE
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Cliff, I hate like heck to ask, but would you (or anyone else) have some time one of these days to get on Zoom and help me get this 7300 set up correctly.
I really appreciate any help here, please.
Thanks again - Jeff
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Hugo, You never said which speed of JS8 you were using.? After experimenting with JS8 a bit I note that there are several different speeds/widths of JS8.? It could be that if you were using a wider bandwidth mode the doppler shifted signal could be?mixed in with the direct signal and can't be seen whereas with the narrower band width PSK31 it is easier to see.? With CW it is real easy to see.? Just guessing about that.?
Dave K3GAU
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 2:29 PM VE3KTN < hal9k@...> wrote: Dave,? the images were fairly dynamic and I thought that they might be Doppler shifted reflections too but why were they entirely absent when using JS8Call?? Just "lucky" that the planes were buzzing only when using FLDigi?? Not likely.? This was between 7:30 - 8:30 pm local time and the CYOW airport is between us just slightly to the West.? We were on PSK31 for about 1/2 hour and these images came and went with each exchange, each of which may have been a minute or less and each time their locations and intensity was different.? We went to JS8Call straightaway from PSK31 for another 1/2 hour and never once did we see anything similar appear above the waterfall noise floor.? Same qso freq, power, antennas etc.? So why on FLdigi and not JS8????
Hugo.
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Dave,
I made up a Mapit macro to see what it does.? The macro is just <MAPIT>.? Click on a call sign so it goes into the call box and then hit the Mapit macro and you'll get your map.? From there you can figure out how to use it in a macro.
John
KC3FL
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Jeff,
For fldigi to work the 7300 needs to be in USB-D mode, not RTTY. Choose RTTY from the fldigi menu Opt Mode to see it in fldigi.
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On Sep 22, 2021, at 16:49, Jeff Freedman < k7jfjeff@...> wrote:
Brand new to the group. IC7300 in RTTY mode. Trying to figure out what setting I don't have right.
When sending, all I hear in the monitor is a single tone. Station on other end reports same.?
Do not see their text on fldigi, even though I see them on the 7300. See their call and frequency on the left-side screen.
How messed up am I?
Appreciate your help, thanks.
--
Jeff Freedman K7JF
Gig Harbor, Washington
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Re: Winfldigi Fails To Start
Juergen,
I don¡¯t run Windows so am guessing here, but if you have an anti-virus program running, close it while you do the install. Maybe Windows required some permission to have the install write to that directory?
If you want a complete uninstall then you need to remove or rename the fldigi.files directory if it exists. C:\Users\loginname\fldigi.files
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On Sep 22, 2021, at 08:38, dl8le < dl8le@...> wrote:
I wanted to install FLDIGI latest version on my Windows 10 notebook today (latest Windows update) to give it a try on a Windows device (I am using it already on a Raspi 4). None of the last versions of FLDIGI from Dave's website could be set up for running (install after a complete deinstall of FLDIGI each time).
The program was installed but stopped with Fatal Error "user .... fldigi.files .." could not be installed. A manual creation of the folder fldigi.files did not bring any success either.?
Any idea what Windows has caused here? A friend of mine has the same problem that he is unable to use FLDIGI on his W10 notebook any longer.
73
Juergen, DL8LE
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Re: Winfldigi Fails To Start
I wanted to install FLDIGI latest version on my Windows 10 notebook today (latest Windows update) to give it a try on a Windows device (I am using it already on a Raspi 4). None of the last versions of FLDIGI from Dave's website could be set up for running (install after a complete deinstall of FLDIGI each time).
The program was installed but stopped with Fatal Error "user .... fldigi.files .." could not be installed. A manual creation of the folder fldigi.files did not bring any success either.?
Any idea what Windows has caused here? A friend of mine has the same problem that he is unable to use FLDIGI on his W10 notebook any longer.
73
Juergen, DL8LE
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Dave,
Please post your macro. If you¡¯ve already cleared the logging area Mapit will have no data to map so it would have to go before clearing the log in fldigi.
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John I am having troubles with the mapit. I put the mapit macro
in my logging macro and it shows up as <RX><CLRTX>.
Which should not show up and it does not got to RX or CLRTX. Where
should I put the Mapit macro ?? 73's Dave NU4N
On 9/18/2021 8:19 AM, Dave wrote:
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The code logic:
static void MAPIT(int how)
{
??? float lat = 0, lon = 0;
??? std::string sCALL = inpCall->value();
??? std::string sLOC = inpLoc->value();
??? std::string url = ;
// LOOKUP BY ADDRESS REQUIRES ADDRESS, STATE & COUNTRY (or
national equivalent)
??? if (how > 1 && !lookup_country.empty()) {
??? ???
url.append(lookup_addr1).append(",").append(lookup_addr2).append(",");
??? ???
url.append(lookup_state).append(",").append(lookup_country);
??? } else {
// LOOKUP BY LAT/LONG
??? ??? if (how > 0 && (!lookup_latd.empty() &&
!lookup_lond.empty())) {
??? ??? ??? url.append(lookup_latd).append(",");
??? ??? ??? url.append(lookup_lond);
??? ??? } else {
// LOOKUP BY LOCATOR CONVERTS THE 6 CHARACTER LOCATOR TO LAT/LON
??? ??? ??? if (sLOC.empty()) return;
??? ??? ??? if (sLOC.length() < 4) return;
??? ??? ??? if (sLOC.length() < 6) sLOC.append("aa");
??? ??? ??? for (size_t i = 0; i < 6; i++) sLOC[i] =
toupper(sLOC[i]);
??? ??? ??? if (sLOC[0] -'A' > 17 || sLOC[4] - 'A' > 23 ||
??? ??? ??? ??? sLOC[1] -'A' > 17 || sLOC[5] - 'A' > 23 ||
??? ??? ??? ??? !isdigit(sLOC[2]) || !isdigit(sLOC[3])) return;
??? ??? ??? lon =??? -180.0 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[0] - 'A') * 20 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[2] - '0') * 2 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[4] - 'A' + 0.5) / 12;
??? ??? ??? lat = -90.0 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[1] - 'A') * 10 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[3] - '0') +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[5] - 'A' + 0.5) / 24;
??? ??? ??? char sdata[20];
??? ??? ??? snprintf(sdata, sizeof(sdata),"%10.6f", lat);
??? ??? ??? url.append(sdata).append(",");
??? ??? ??? snprintf(sdata, sizeof(sdata),"%10.6f", lon);
??? ??? ??? url.append(sdata);
??? ??? }
??? }
??? if (!sCALL.empty()) url.append("(").append(sCALL).append(")");
??? else url.append("(nocall)");
??? url.append("&t=p&z=10");
??? cb_mnuVisitURL(NULL, (void*)url.c_str());
}
static void pMAPIT(std::string &s, size_t &i, size_t
endbracket)
{
??? if (within_exec) {
??? ??? substitute(s, i, endbracket, "");
??? ??? return;
??? }
??? std::string sVal = s.substr(i + 7, endbracket - i - 7);
??? if (sVal.length() > 0) {
??? ??? if (sVal.compare(0,3,"adr") == 0)
??? ??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,2);? // MAP USING ADDRESS
??? ??? else if (sVal.compare(0,6,"latlon") == 0)
??? ??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,1); // MAP USING LATITUDE / LONGITUDE
??? ??? else if (sVal.compare(0,3,"loc") == 0)
??? ??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,0); // MAP USING LOCATOR
??? ??? else
??? ??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,2); // DEFAULT TO ADDRESS
??? } else
??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,2); // <MAP> DEFAULTS TO ADDRESS
??? s.erase(i, s.find('>', i) + 1 - i);
??? expand = false;
}
The lookup will be OK 99.99% of the time using <MAPIT>
73, David, W1HKJ
On 9/18/21 6:16 AM, Dave Tucker Nu4N
wrote:
David I was looking at the mapit macro. Are those lines that
divide adr,lat & loc straight lines up or "/"?? Thanks for the reply. 73's Dave NU4N
On 9/17/2021 7:27 PM, Dave wrote:
Create a "map it"
macro.? See
Executing the macro will open the browser to the current
stations grid locator, or lat/lon.
David
On 9/17/21 6:35 PM, John via
wrote:
Dave,
You can hit the lookup icon on Fldigi which should bring
up the stations QRZ page if you have that setup.? Click on
the detail tab and then the show map box.? That is the
only way I know how to get the Google map of the station.?
You can click on the box symbol in the upper right corner
for full screen.
John
KC3FL
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73 NU4N Dave
-- 73 NU4N Dave
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Brand new to the group. IC7300 in RTTY mode. Trying to figure out what setting I don't have right.
When sending, all I hear in the monitor is a single tone. Station on other end reports same.?
Do not see their text on fldigi, even though I see them on the 7300. See their call and frequency on the left-side screen.
How messed up am I?
Appreciate your help, thanks.
--
Jeff Freedman K7JF
Gig Harbor, Washington
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John I am having troubles with the mapit. I put the mapit macro
in my logging macro and it shows up as <RX><CLRTX>.
Which should not show up and it does not got to RX or CLRTX. Where
should I put the Mapit macro ??
73's Dave NU4N
On 9/18/2021 8:19 AM, Dave wrote:
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The code logic:
static void MAPIT(int how)
{
??? float lat = 0, lon = 0;
??? std::string sCALL = inpCall->value();
??? std::string sLOC = inpLoc->value();
??? std::string url = ;
// LOOKUP BY ADDRESS REQUIRES ADDRESS, STATE & COUNTRY (or
national equivalent)
??? if (how > 1 && !lookup_country.empty()) {
??? ???
url.append(lookup_addr1).append(",").append(lookup_addr2).append(",");
??? ???
url.append(lookup_state).append(",").append(lookup_country);
??? } else {
// LOOKUP BY LAT/LONG
??? ??? if (how > 0 && (!lookup_latd.empty() &&
!lookup_lond.empty())) {
??? ??? ??? url.append(lookup_latd).append(",");
??? ??? ??? url.append(lookup_lond);
??? ??? } else {
// LOOKUP BY LOCATOR CONVERTS THE 6 CHARACTER LOCATOR TO LAT/LON
??? ??? ??? if (sLOC.empty()) return;
??? ??? ??? if (sLOC.length() < 4) return;
??? ??? ??? if (sLOC.length() < 6) sLOC.append("aa");
??? ??? ??? for (size_t i = 0; i < 6; i++) sLOC[i] =
toupper(sLOC[i]);
??? ??? ??? if (sLOC[0] -'A' > 17 || sLOC[4] - 'A' > 23 ||
??? ??? ??? ??? sLOC[1] -'A' > 17 || sLOC[5] - 'A' > 23 ||
??? ??? ??? ??? !isdigit(sLOC[2]) || !isdigit(sLOC[3])) return;
??? ??? ??? lon =??? -180.0 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[0] - 'A') * 20 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[2] - '0') * 2 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[4] - 'A' + 0.5) / 12;
??? ??? ??? lat = -90.0 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[1] - 'A') * 10 +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[3] - '0') +
??? ??? ??? (sLOC[5] - 'A' + 0.5) / 24;
??? ??? ??? char sdata[20];
??? ??? ??? snprintf(sdata, sizeof(sdata),"%10.6f", lat);
??? ??? ??? url.append(sdata).append(",");
??? ??? ??? snprintf(sdata, sizeof(sdata),"%10.6f", lon);
??? ??? ??? url.append(sdata);
??? ??? }
??? }
??? if (!sCALL.empty()) url.append("(").append(sCALL).append(")");
??? else url.append("(nocall)");
??? url.append("&t=p&z=10");
??? cb_mnuVisitURL(NULL, (void*)url.c_str());
}
static void pMAPIT(std::string &s, size_t &i, size_t
endbracket)
{
??? if (within_exec) {
??? ??? substitute(s, i, endbracket, "");
??? ??? return;
??? }
??? std::string sVal = s.substr(i + 7, endbracket - i - 7);
??? if (sVal.length() > 0) {
??? ??? if (sVal.compare(0,3,"adr") == 0)
??? ??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,2);? // MAP USING ADDRESS
??? ??? else if (sVal.compare(0,6,"latlon") == 0)
??? ??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,1); // MAP USING LATITUDE / LONGITUDE
??? ??? else if (sVal.compare(0,3,"loc") == 0)
??? ??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,0); // MAP USING LOCATOR
??? ??? else
??? ??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,2); // DEFAULT TO ADDRESS
??? } else
??? ??? REQ(MAPIT,2); // <MAP> DEFAULTS TO ADDRESS
??? s.erase(i, s.find('>', i) + 1 - i);
??? expand = false;
}
The lookup will be OK 99.99% of the time using <MAPIT>
73, David, W1HKJ
On 9/18/21 6:16 AM, Dave Tucker Nu4N
wrote:
David I was looking at the mapit macro. Are those lines that
divide adr,lat & loc straight lines up or "/"??
Thanks for the reply.
73's Dave NU4N
On 9/17/2021 7:27 PM, Dave wrote:
Create a "map it"
macro.? See
Executing the macro will open the browser to the current
stations grid locator, or lat/lon.
David
On 9/17/21 6:35 PM, John via
groups.io wrote:
Dave,
You can hit the lookup icon on Fldigi which should bring
up the stations QRZ page if you have that setup.? Click on
the detail tab and then the show map box.? That is the
only way I know how to get the Google map of the station.?
You can click on the box symbol in the upper right corner
for full screen.
John
KC3FL
--
73 NU4N Dave
--
73 NU4N Dave
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Dave,? the images were fairly dynamic and I thought that they might be Doppler shifted reflections too but why were they entirely absent when using JS8Call?? Just "lucky" that the planes were buzzing only when using FLDigi?? Not likely.? This was between 7:30 - 8:30 pm local time and the CYOW airport is between us just slightly to the West.? We were on PSK31 for about 1/2 hour and these images came and went with each exchange, each of which may have been a minute or less and each time their locations and intensity was different.? We went to JS8Call straightaway from PSK31 for another 1/2 hour and never once did we see anything similar appear above the waterfall noise floor.? Same qso freq, power, antennas etc.? So why on FLdigi and not JS8????
Hugo.
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GM Hugo,
How long did these images last?? If they only lasted for a relatively short time each it could be from airplane reflections.? I quite often see airplane reflections on a 6 meter propagation?beacon some miles away.? Because of doppler effects it causes the reflected signal to change frequency.? :-) Dave K3GAU
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:36 AM VE3KTN < hal9k@...> wrote: Hi all,
I was on 6 m. with another local ham and noticed images of the desired signal appearing while we were conversing on PSK31; screen shots from my qth attached (text areas redacted for privacy).? While the main signal frequency remained stable, the images wandered back and forth between approx. +/- 60 Hz. offset.? If these images are real, I'm at a loss to explain why they're there.? Both I and the other ham were seeing this, so it's not just me.? To compound the mystery, neither of us recall having ever seen this when we were conversing on 2 m. last year.? I've also seen this image thingy occur in a qso I had with a third local ham about a month ago.
After spending some time on PSK31, we decided to try out JS8Call and hooked up there.? During roughly 25 minutes on JS8, neither he nor I saw this imaging effect at all, so I'm a bit suspicious that this is something to do with FLDigi, but why are we seeing this only on 6 m.??? (At least so far).? Both of us have upgraded to FLDigi 4.1.20, whereas I was using 4.1.17 for all the qso's we've had on 2 m. leading up to Field Day 2021.
Anyone have any ideas?
Hugo, ve3ktn.
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Gary,
The drop down menus are in Fldigi, not Windows.? Click on the Configure tab in Fldigi to get to the drop downs.? If you just see "Configure", click on the "+". plus sign and it will expand the menus.? To collapse, click on the "-", minus sign.
John
KC3FL
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Hi all,
I was on 6 m. with another local ham and noticed images of the desired signal appearing while we were conversing on PSK31; screen shots from my qth attached (text areas redacted for privacy).? While the main signal frequency remained stable, the images wandered back and forth between approx. +/- 60 Hz. offset.? If these images are real, I'm at a loss to explain why they're there.? Both I and the other ham were seeing this, so it's not just me.? To compound the mystery, neither of us recall having ever seen this when we were conversing on 2 m. last year.? I've also seen this image thingy occur in a qso I had with a third local ham about a month ago.
After spending some time on PSK31, we decided to try out JS8Call and hooked up there.? During roughly 25 minutes on JS8, neither he nor I saw this imaging effect at all, so I'm a bit suspicious that this is something to do with FLDigi, but why are we seeing this only on 6 m.??? (At least so far).? Both of us have upgraded to FLDigi 4.1.20, whereas I was using 4.1.17 for all the qso's we've had on 2 m. leading up to Field Day 2021.
Anyone have any ideas?
Hugo, ve3ktn.
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Lee,
The 7300 only needs the one USB cable. It will carry the Serial data for Cat Control as well as make available the USB Codec for the audio. Just install the driver for the rig with the USB cable disconnected then connect and go for it.
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On Sep 21, 2021, at 02:13, Lee Asher < vk4cxx@...> wrote:
General Info Callsign: VK4CXX QTH: Brisbane, Australia RIG: IC-7300 Experience Level: Zilt.
Is it possible to send ALL comms between the 7300 and Fldigi via the usb cable ??? Or do I need to setup two audio lines between the 7300 and the soundcard ?? as well.
Regards, Lee Asher Regular Aussie Virus Updates at
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Need help getting fldigi to work with windows 10 and ic7100 = it is working with wsjt ok, so I may be close. The help? pages and videos I have found on the net show setup being done from dialogue boxes and drop down menus which dont appear on windows 10 and I think? it is confusing my setting choices. I would appreciate any Ideas you might have for a beginner.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? tnx Gary? w9hm
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Dave
VE3KTN
