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Re: Moving Fldigi from C:\ to D:\

 


Hello Paul,

In addition to David's reply (he's faster than me ;-), here are my thoughts and suggestions.


I've also been struggling with C: getting full quite a bit over the years, on different PCs.


But honestly, I would not generally recommend moving functional installed program files elsewhere unless there's a REAL need to do so. because these are files Windows governs quite rigorously. As David has pointed out, for FLdigi, there's a good way to do so, as I explain below.


On the other hand, it usually is the DATA that grows somewhat excessively over time, rather than the programs themselves.


If I may first suggest a different approach (just as an alternative - or simply as a logic check upfront):


Download and install the TREESIZE FREE software from https://www.jam-software.de/treesize_free/.

It is about 8 MB, install it (at least temporarily) where ever it makes most sense to you.

Then take the time, open it, select Drive C: and let it analyze and show you, which files and folders actually take up how much space on your hard disk.

It's very simple and intuitive, IMHO, and quickly gives you a good idea, where the storage really gets absorbed, both visually (the size of the graphical elements is proportional to the space needed on the HDD) and in a folder view, giving the numerical statistics per folder / subfolder etc.


One general word of caution, since this is a common source of confusion: some (even huge) files used by Windows may APPEAR to exist twice or more often in different locations, looking like obsolete multiple copies. In reality, there's a (usually hidden) way of creating so-called 'hard links' between files. Or rather, these make a SINGLE file appear in different places, as if it were physically there separate times. But in fact, deleting one of them, if they are in fact hard linked, will remove all others of the same name, too. So don't try and remove unknown Windows 'stuff' that might fall in this category, because it may do more harm than good!

On the other hand, it is usually safe to remove any files in temporary 'Temp' folders, because those files still being used will deny being deleted anyway.

Finally, depending on the kind of data filling up your hard disk, compressing the respective folders and the files contained therein (Right Click on the folder, Properties, Advanced => Compress...) may be effective. But it will not help in a relevant manner in all cases, where the data consists of already packed or other binary data, such as audio, video, image, office files.


well, if your Treesize (or personal) analysis result is, that it's really the program installations that you need to move for space reasons, well, go ahead and do so. But in most cases, this will probably require an uninstall / re-install of the respective software packages. With possible side effects, because Windows may be picky or restrictive in certain cases. You have been warned ;-)


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As David pointed out, there is a functional and useful procedure in the FLdigi Manual, which may help for your 'relocating' project (the following is basically copied from the Help file):


Installing fldigi on a thumb drive

Installing fldigi (and any of the other NBEMS flxxxx applications) on a thumb drive is very simple. Create a folder on the thumb drive named 'FL_APPS'. Then copy the fldigi executable to that folder. Note that folder FL_APPS may reside on any hard drive, or removable drive (including a rewritable CD/DVD) on your system. Copy the executable for flarq, flrig, flmsg, flamp, etc to that same folder if you want to have a complete NBEMS installation on that device:
fldigi.exe
flarq.exe
flmsg.exe
flamp.exe
flrig.exe

The key to using the applications thus installed is to execute the program from that folder.
This is best accomplished by opening the FL_APPS folder using the system files explorer. Then start the application by double clicking on it's icon.
You will be guided through the new install wizard the first time you do this and fldigi will place all of it's configuration folders in the same folder from which it was started. For example, if the [thumb] drive were device "D:"
D:\FL_APPS\fldigi.exe
D:\FL_APPS\fldigi.files
D:\FL_APPS\fldigi.files\fldigi_def.xml
etc ...


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Now if you first run FLdigi from the new D:\...\FL_APPS\... folder, check whether it actually reads the config etc. from the new location, a sub-folder under D:\...\FL_APPS\...., by opening the Menu - File - Folders - Fldigi Config... => verify that the opening drive and folders are the ones you wish to use, and do the same for the other folders and Macros to be sure.

If the OLD data has not been transferred correctly while installing FLdigi in the D:\...\FL_APPS\... folder, you can shut FLdigi down, copy all your existing data (overwriting any existing newer files on D:) with your original 'OLD' user files from Drive C:

COPY FROM ... C:\users\Paul\fldigi.files\*.* [or where ever your data location currently is - and keep it as a backup for the time being]
COPY -TO- ... D:\...\FL_APPS\fldigi.files\*.* [the new FLdigi data location]

RUN FLdigi from the new location again.

Now at last, the (copied) original data should be properly read from the new D: location, giving you the 'usual' look and feel from the old installation.

Once all is OK and after you have verified (confirmed!) all your user settings, macros, logbook etc. to be OK, you can remove your OLD installation and data files from the C: drive. Yet, I'd still keep a copy somewhere for a while, just in case, instead of deleting the files for good.


I cannot give a guarantee that this works in your case, but I've tried it here in a similar manner, and it appears to work just fine.

So in case you find anything going wrong or not being properly described above, please let us know, to the benefit of any future requests of this kind. Thank you.


Good Luck!



Best regards
Tobias
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Am Montag, 27. Januar 2025 um 16:59:17 MEZ hat Paul Bell via groups.io <kd8bxy@...> Folgendes geschrieben:


Is there an easy way to move my Fldigi install from my C:\ Drive to another Drive like D:\ without having to re-install the software?? Are there any Configuration settings I can change to do this?? I could not find any setting under the Config Dialog Menu.? I would like to install as much as possible to another Drive designation because my C:\ drive is getting full.? I want to move both C:\Program Files, C:\Program Files (x86) and C:\Users\*\fl* files.


Re: Rearrange macros #macos

 

See

On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 11:14?AM Ryan Trullinger (KC0QNB) via <rt83021=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Is there a simple way to change macro positions on the GUI? Drag and drop would be nice, but I am not sure if that would work. I don't like the macro layout that is the default it doesn't flow quite right. I have copied and pasted a few in the macro editor but that takes a lot of time.


Re: Moving Fldigi from C:\ to D:\

 

See

Substitute drive D for drive H in the instructions.


On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 9:58?AM Paul Bell via <KD8BXY=hotmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Is there an easy way to move my Fldigi install from my C:\ Drive to another Drive like D:\ without having to re-install the software?? Are there any Configuration settings I can change to do this?? I could not find any setting under the Config Dialog Menu.? I would like to install as much as possible to another Drive designation because my C:\ drive is getting full.? I want to move both C:\Program Files, C:\Program Files (x86) and C:\Users\*\fl* files.


Rearrange macros #macos

 

Is there a simple way to change macro positions on the GUI? Drag and drop would be nice, but I am not sure if that would work. I don't like the macro layout that is the default it doesn't flow quite right. I have copied and pasted a few in the macro editor but that takes a lot of time.


Re: Alert sound files

 

Thanks, Dave!


Moving Fldigi from C:\ to D:\

 

Is there an easy way to move my Fldigi install from my C:\ Drive to another Drive like D:\ without having to re-install the software?? Are there any Configuration settings I can change to do this?? I could not find any setting under the Config Dialog Menu.? I would like to install as much as possible to another Drive designation because my C:\ drive is getting full.? I want to move both C:\Program Files, C:\Program Files (x86) and C:\Users\*\fl* files.


Re: Alert sound files

 

You can download alert clips here:

73, David

On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 10:19?PM Ryan Trullinger (KC0QNB) via <rt83021=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I will try it tomorrow, thanks?


Re: Alert sound files

 

I will try it tomorrow, thanks?


Winter Field Day Logging Bug

 

During WFD, the Fldigi logging window would not accept any 'Mobile' class or several sections (WNY & PA just to name two) entries by clicking on them.? Had to enter them manually.? Other than that, the software worked flawlessly.
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Tom, WA9AFM


Re: XMIT Color Change Not Persistent 4.2.06

 


Just FYI,

I tried changing the color in v4.2.06.19 and it worked just as expected

Save instead of just closing the dialog might be a clue, but it even seemed to work correctly both ways, I think.

I tried changing the color to a different one, like blue, to better see the effect on the tiny button.

73s Tobias
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Am Sonntag, 26. Januar 2025 um 23:27:10 MEZ hat Dave via groups.io <w1hkj25@...> Folgendes geschrieben:


Thank you for the report Mike.

David


On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 12:06?PM Mike KM2B via <mike.km2b=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Use Case:
?
Select Configure
Expand Colors-Fonts
Select Rx-Tx
click on XMIT (red by default)
move slider down to a darker red
click OK.
result:? color remains red.
?
Working as designed in 4.2.04.
KM2B
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Re: XMIT Color Change Not Persistent 4.2.06

 

Thank you for the report Mike.

David


On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 12:06?PM Mike KM2B via <mike.km2b=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Use Case:
?
Select Configure
Expand Colors-Fonts
Select Rx-Tx
click on XMIT (red by default)
move slider down to a darker red
click OK.
result:? color remains red.
?
Working as designed in 4.2.04.
KM2B
?
?
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Re: Alert sound files

 

Hello Ryan,

Please take a look at the attachment and try activating what you need.

This works as described in the dialogs.

First step is to test a selected sound using the test button. Then either use or change the respective sound. There also is a 'wav' option if you wish or need to use another sound not present on your PC.


Good luck!

73s Tobias
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Am Sonntag, 26. Januar 2025 um 22:04:32 MEZ hat Ryan Trullinger (KC0QNB) via groups.io <rt83021@...> Folgendes geschrieben:


I tried to set up alerts with audio files.
Are the sound files included in the FLDIGI files or do I need to download them? What more do I need to do to make them work?


Alert sound files

 

I tried to set up alerts with audio files.
Are the sound files included in the FLDIGI files or do I need to download them? What more do I need to do to make them work?


XMIT Color Change Not Persistent 4.2.06

 

Use Case:
?
Select Configure
Expand Colors-Fonts
Select Rx-Tx
click on XMIT (red by default)
move slider down to a darker red
click OK.
result:? color remains red.
?
Working as designed in 4.2.04.
KM2B
?
?
?


4.2.06: Transmit color changes not persistent

 

Use Case.

1.? Select Configure -> ConfigDialog > Colors-Fonts > Rx-Tx.
2.? Left click on XMIT color button.? Move the slider down to a darker red.? Click OK.
3.? XMIT button does not change color.? Red default continues as transmit color.

4.2.04 works as expected.? ?Upon sliding down to darker red XMIT button and text take on new color.

This is my first post and I hope this is the right place for bug reports.??

Please point me to right place on sourceforge if not.

Thank you in advance.

KM2B


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Re: New web hosting site for www.w1hkj

 

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Will you also be repopulating the "alpha" tree there? It did not seem to have any content just now.
Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ
FM19oo
Parkton, MD


On 1/24/2025 8:23 PM, Dave via groups.io wrote:

I am in the process of moving the entire w1hkj web site to be hosted at QTH.com.? The new site is

Please visit the site and report any discrepancies, particularly misdirection of links.? fldigi, flrig, etal still need to be modified to reflect this move to the QTH host.

73, David
W1HKJ


Re: New web hosting site for www.w1hkj

 

New site looks ok for me (Win 11, Edge) 73


Re: New web hosting site for www.w1hkj

 

Philip, David,

Agreed, apologies, I had tried it using my built-in (SAMSUNG) cellphone browser, which seems to be unnecessarily 'picky'.

Using Firefox, it worked right away and said 'secured'.


My fault... ;-)


Thank you!


73s Tobias
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Am Samstag, 25. Januar 2025 um 17:13:48 MEZ hat Philip - K4PO via groups.io <k4po.ars@...> Folgendes geschrieben:


Tobias,
The site shows as secure in my browser Google Chrome and MS Edge.? Regards, Phil?
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Re: fldigi CW decoding problems

 

I use PCW Fistcheck all the time to keep in practice twixt on air sessions. I find that it does really well at decoding what my rigs send. I use a straight key 90% of the time, which is why I like the PCWF feedback on my timing. The timing dialog is great for that. I agree that getting CW off the air is another matter, with signal shifts, fading, etc, but I have used PCFW with a local ham on HF, and it was pretty good. In fact, PCWF showed what fldigi could not...

One of the new CW hams was using a keyer, and thinking that he was sending great code. His dits and dahs were great, actually...as you'd expect from a keyer. Problem was that he couldn't send a letter or a word that was generally understandable by ear, so PCWF had no chance. But I copied what PCWF recorded, and sent that to him. He got the message right away, and decided to shift from keyer to straight key until he had a better sense of timing.

I think using fldigi is overkill for these simple tasks, but I understand wanting to use it if the goal is to actually send and receive CW using fldigi.

I occasionally use Morse Expert. It is great at showing just how much the RX CW signal shifts around, and why it is so difficult to machine decode hand sent CW.

73 Rich NE1EE
The Dusty Key
On the banks of the Piscataqua

On 2025-01-25 10:54:, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
RE: No decode on hand sent CW from the K4. Is the monitor audio getting to the computer?


Re: New web hosting site for www.w1hkj

 

Tobias,
The site shows as secure in my browser Google Chrome and MS Edge.? Regards, Phil?
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