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Re: Changing Themes #fldigi-parameters

 

Hi Dave,
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Perhaps the UI setting shown in the message linked below will allow you to revert it. On mine, the default was ¡°gtk +¡±
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Graeme


Changing Themes #fldigi-parameters

 

How do I revert back to the light theme for FLDIGI. It's set as a silver style scheme at the moment.
I have looked in some earlier posts about theme's but can't find a way back to the original theme.
Any help would be appreciated.
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73'S DAVE NU4N


Re: fldigi and fllog development releases at

 

Hi David,
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Thank you for fixing the waterfall colour palette issue. It¡¯s working fine for me now.
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Graeme


Re: Not able to copy? #fldigi-parameters

 

In case the "Windows snipping tool" is new to you, here's the deal:

Hold down little "windows?black box [between Fn and Alt keys]. While it's down, also press the SHIFT and the S keys simultaneously. That action will cause the screen to go partly dark, but will expose a little red cross. Once the little red cross appears, you can release the three keys you lend down.

Now, if you press the left-button down on the mouse, you can drag the little?red cross around?and down, to outline the area of the desktop window that you want to grab. You can make the little rectangle any size you need. Once you have the area of interest framed, release the left moist?button.

That portion of the window is now available to be pasted wherever?you want. The easiest?
PASTE command?ins CTRL+V.? [Note: The image gets stored into the?"Clipboard" in Windows... [find that directory on your own.]

This screen-image tool has other options, but just what I have told you here does most of what you want.?

Here are a couple of examples, that I have done out of this email itself:
TINY LITTLE FRAGMENT OF THE SCREEN:
image.png

Here's a bigger one, done same way:
image.png

SEE?-- Easy as pie...
73 Bill K2TNO

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 5:26?PM Dave Garber via <ve3wej=[email protected]> wrote:
try using windows snipping tool to capture the screen

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 4:58?PM Dave Tucker Nu4N via <dwtucker19=[email protected]> wrote:
I was working on my FLDIGI with my ICOM 7300. Tx is working great but I am getting strange characters on the RX screen. Looks similar to Japanese.
I must have something set wrong?
Any help would be appreciated.
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73'S DAVE NU4N


Change screen #fldigi-parameters

 

I have FLDIGI on the screen but it is a metallic color. How to I reset the screen back to normal?
Thanks
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73'S DAVE NU4N


Re: Not able to copy? #fldigi-parameters

 

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I figured it out Dave. It was character set was not set correctly. Copy is fine now.

Thanks for the reply.

On 10/21/2024 4:26 PM, Dave Garber wrote:
try using windows snipping tool to capture the screen

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 4:58?PM Dave Tucker Nu4N via <dwtucker19=[email protected]> wrote:
I was working on my FLDIGI with my ICOM 7300. Tx is working great but I am getting strange characters on the RX screen. Looks similar to Japanese.
I must have something set wrong?
Any help would be appreciated.
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73'S DAVE NU4N
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73's de NU4N

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73'S DAVE NU4N


Re: Not able to copy? #fldigi-parameters

 

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Sorry for the post I changed the character set and now I am able to copy just fine.

Dave

On 10/21/2024 3:58 PM, Dave Tucker Nu4N via groups.io wrote:
I was working on my FLDIGI with my ICOM 7300. Tx is working great but I am getting strange characters on the RX screen. Looks similar to Japanese.
I must have something set wrong?
Any help would be appreciated.
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73'S DAVE NU4N
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73's de NU4N

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73'S DAVE NU4N


Re: Not able to copy? #fldigi-parameters

 

try using windows snipping tool to capture the screen

Dave Garber
VE3WEJ / VE3IE


On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 4:58?PM Dave Tucker Nu4N via <dwtucker19=[email protected]> wrote:
I was working on my FLDIGI with my ICOM 7300. Tx is working great but I am getting strange characters on the RX screen. Looks similar to Japanese.
I must have something set wrong?
Any help would be appreciated.
--
73'S DAVE NU4N


Not able to copy? #fldigi-parameters

 

I was working on my FLDIGI with my ICOM 7300. Tx is working great but I am getting strange characters on the RX screen. Looks similar to Japanese.
I must have something set wrong?
Any help would be appreciated.
--
73'S DAVE NU4N


Re: fldigi 4.2.06 posted at

 

Thank you Dave! The new delayed QSY macro tag works perfectly with my G106!
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73! de HA3MGA Gabor


fldigi and fllog development releases at

 

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Index of /alpha/fllog

commit 04f7b0cc942612e5174594b2dab99cdce3a16aa2
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sat Oct 19 20:47:41 2024 -0500

??? alpha

commit f6928791bcd46949d13d745dc34dea14494d8661
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sat Oct 19 20:47:23 2024 -0500

??? Hell modes
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????? * dup check all Hell submodes as a single mode

commit c5766d56911ef79f5441740bfe5867ebe66493b0
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Tue Jan 16 20:00:00 2024 -0600

??? Version 1.2.8

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and


Index of /alpha/fldigi

commit 53d71ba5e6a32a0944398dfdb3af237a529e2201
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sat Oct 19 19:51:00 2024 -0500

??? alpha

commit 6eae131e98abb68c477f214bb87c3072ae42b1ee
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Sat Oct 19 20:53:24 2024 -0500

??? Hell modes
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????? * Make all modes equal for duplicate test.? Include
??????? mode designations prior to ADIF conformance code change.

commit b4e763fe467d8067c4b420d53c4859327fed02c9
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Fri Oct 18 06:37:04 2024 -0500

??? ui_colors
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????? * fix bugs introduced by commit 9bd273df32722882f4761651

commit ea5302cfe740a469354f98f9a3300351ac3d3b64
Author: dave-w1hkj <w1hkj@...>
Date:?? Fri Oct 11 08:51:29 2024 -0500

??? Version 4.2.06

73, David, W1HKJ



FLdigi Gibberish

 

I want to thank all of you for input. All of your suggestions were very helpful. After my company leaves this weekend, I'm going to review all of your suggestions and play with my Fldigi settings. I'll let you know how things work out. I appreciate your time and committment to helping me. Thank you.?
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Darryl


Re: FLdigi Gibberish

 

Thank you for your input.?
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Darryl


Re: FLdigi Gibberish

 

Thank you for your input. I'm going to revise my settings.
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Darryl


Re: FLdigi Gibberish

 

Thank you for your input.
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Darryl


Re: FLdigi Gibberish

 


Darryl,

If you consider how digital decoding works, it's a logical consequence, that below a certain amount of SNR (Signal/Noise Ratio), things become completely unreadable - and thus gibberish. Since the computer only reproduces but doesn't 'understand' what it puts on the screen, both cases may and will occur, especially with fading signals on shortwave.


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Take a classic MFSK16 mode, for example, as used on W1AW for their QST bulletins on SW. Simply put, after synching onto the (last found) tone transition time, the decoder only checks, in any pre-defined (fixed length) time slot, which of the 16 tones (used in this mode by design) has the highest amplitude, and considers this one the 'correct' (and supposedly transmitted) tone. Its number is then fed into the FEC and text decoding logic for the text output. As you can imagine, at any audio and SNR level, there will *always* be one of the 16 tones that has the highest amplitude, even if pure noise is received. Thus, unless the decoding logic itself shuts itself down to 'idle' in case of too many consecutive errors, the result will be gibberish put out into the RX window. Usually the decoding logic is designed for high(est) sensitivity, and therefore will continue evaluating, even if the result does not meet the mode's FEC requirements during a certain time.

In modes like MFSK, keeping the idle tone active (uninterrupted) while transmitting, even in text (typing) pauses, usually avoids random characters on the RX side, provided the signal (SNR) is high enough for proper decoding in the first place. If, on the other hand, there are signal gaps, even fractional second pauses entirely without a transmitted signal, as is the case between text blocks and image transmissions in Kim KD9XB's Shortwave Radiograms, you'll usually see a certain amount of gibberish until the TX signal (and RX synch) is restored, when the next text block or image header starts.

The best general workaround on the receiving side, as stated in this discussion thread before, is to activate the Squelch button (bottom right) and then slowly increase the green slider next to it upward in transmission pauses until you shut off (most of) the unwanted characters. Obviously, this is a manual process and exaggerating the Squelch level will turn FLdigi more insensitive against weak or borderline signals, which might otherwise, at least in part, have been decoded. So it's up to you...


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Whenever hams are polite (and knowledgeable) enough to activate TxID (the standardized RSID mode tag), and you do the same on the RX side by activating RxID (both buttons are top right in the FLdigi window), you can setup FLdigi to notify you about the start of a new message (signal). The notifier is user-configurable, and if you add a few empty lines before and after an easily visible RSID tag text, the result may look like this (an example from Shortwave Radiogram, as received this week):


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Shortwave Radiogram now changes to MFSK64 ...



k hcy*Rf0iti¨ª


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RSID: <<2024-10-17T23:38Z MFSK-64 @ 1499>>
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?sLRr s n? iwc







This is Shortwave Radiogram in MFSK64

Please send your reception report to radiogram@...


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You see, there still is a bit of gibberish received and logged in signal pauses, but a new transmission (or mode switch) is now clearly visible in your RX text window!

I attach my 'notify.prefs' as stored in 'C:\Users\ < U S E R N A M E > \fldigi.files', which should give you the RSID tag layout shown above, should you be inclined to try it out (be sure to close FLdigi if you copy this file into your folder - and backup your existing file before, in case you wish to return to the previous settings). The leading and trailing empty lines are defined in 'notify.prefs' by the NewLine token backslash-n (\n = 1 new line, \n\n = 1 new and empty line etc.), and you can easily adapt this to your needs in any text editor. The tiny preview in the 'Notifications' Dialog may not correctly show such extra lines etc., but they will be visible in the RX window. Most user-configurable settings are available under Menu - Configure - Notifications, others under Menu - Configure - Config Dialog - IDs [+] RsID, and 2 attached (commented) screenshots show some of the settings to choose from.

Note: in FLdigi, RSID can be (de)activated *per mode*, which may not be very intuitive, but is certainly way better than no choice at all. In the attached screenshot 'FLdigi_Configuration.png', you'll see a Button 'Rx modes' and another Button 'Transmit modes'. They are entirely independent, but only activating the RSID function for all 'your' modes in both TX and RX will make these useful features available.


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On the other hand, when people don't use RSID and we can only resort to the Squelch option described above, I dearly miss a simple feature in FLdigi, which would be adding an (ideally user configurable) marker and/or newline(s), whenever Squelch opens again. That would then, instead of simply appending new text *within* the current line (so far without any indication that there was a transition or new message), place a new message *below* the previous one. I don't really understand why nobody has implemented such a helpful function, which, code wise, should be easy enough to realize, I assume. Especially when there are random characters between closed Squelch periods from time to time, such a simple visualizaton would certainly help sort the wheat from the chaff in the RX text. But sadly, so far, this is just a suggestion, not a feature.


Good luck and enjoy FLdigi, it's really a great piece of free software, thanks to Dave's generous work he puts into ever improving it...


Vy 73 SWL Tobias
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Am Samstag, 19. Oktober 2024 um 15:24:38 MESZ hat Darryl KD8JQE <kd8jqe@...> Folgendes geschrieben:


Good Afternoon Follow FLdigi users,
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I have followed the FLdigi setup procedures and watched many videos. However, I can not find any information on how to stop the gibberish text on the screen. What do I do in the setup to stop the Gibberish text?
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Re: FLdigi Gibberish

 

I don't recall losing information this way, either. The decoding process is designed to extract real signals from the noise, and that process is pretty reliable.

You could turn SQL up unless you are receiving...then turn it down for reception...back up when not RX. I try to minimize the gibberish at times, because I want to save a log, and want minimal info in the text file to address later.

I have put two seemingly identical systems side-by-side, and RX the same signal. It seemed that the gibberish was actually generated by the host system, not the RF signal. But I never took the time to find the source of the noise, which I took to be system-based, based on my observations. I have given thought that it might be related in some cases to an audio driver artifact. That is, the host system or the radio applies the equivalent of AGC, so when there is no signal present, the noise floor rises, and when the signal appears, the NF falls, so that the signal, being much higher than the noise, seems to be filtered by SQL.

~R~

On 2024-10-19 09:48:, Cliff wrote:
Turn in the SQL and set the SQL level so it just stops the gibberish, i.e. the slider at the extreme right end of the waterfall. I've never lost text from modes with Forward Error Correction that way.

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA


Re: FLdigi Gibberish

Cliff
 

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Turn in the SQL and set the SQL level so it just stops the gibberish, i.e. the slider at the extreme right end of the waterfall. I've never lost text from modes with Forward Error Correction that way.

73,
Cliff, AE5ZA



On Oct 19, 2024, at 08:25, Don Rolph via <don.rolph@...> wrote:

You can turn on SQL, but at the risk of losing text from modes with forward error correction.

Most of us probably?just tolerate the "gibberish".

On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 9:24?AM Darryl KD8JQE via <kd8jqe=[email protected]> wrote:
Good Afternoon Follow FLdigi users,
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I have followed the FLdigi setup procedures and watched many videos. However, I can not find any information on how to stop the gibberish text on the screen. What do I do in the setup to stop the Gibberish text?
?
?




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73,
AB1PH
Don Rolph


Re: FLdigi Gibberish

 

You can turn on SQL, but at the risk of losing text from modes with forward error correction.

Most of us probably?just tolerate the "gibberish".

On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 9:24?AM Darryl KD8JQE via <kd8jqe=[email protected]> wrote:
Good Afternoon Follow FLdigi users,
?
I have followed the FLdigi setup procedures and watched many videos. However, I can not find any information on how to stop the gibberish text on the screen. What do I do in the setup to stop the Gibberish text?
?
?



--

73,
AB1PH
Don Rolph


FLdigi Gibberish

 

Good Afternoon Follow FLdigi users,
?
I have followed the FLdigi setup procedures and watched many videos. However, I can not find any information on how to stop the gibberish text on the screen. What do I do in the setup to stop the Gibberish text?
?
?