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Reed Cary
 

Welcome Jim;

Plenty of 2As on this list. So many I can't count them anymore. Plenty of advice, too.
So just give a holler.

Reed (CA)


--- CJ2A1947@... wrote:
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Howdy, I just signed on and wanted to get acquainted. My name is jim and I
live in North carolina mountains. I have a 1947 cj2a which I have almost got
restored. Would like to hear from you guys. Jim
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Re: How do you remove the OD

Ross Cook
 

Rick,
Is the output shaft from the tranny still attached?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick48CJ2A@... <Rick48CJ2A@...>
To: WillysTech@... <WillysTech@...>
Date: Saturday, June 19, 1999 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] How do you remove the OD


From: Rick48CJ2A@...

Ross,
Everything moves and operates as advertised, so I don't thing it's frozen
(good thought though). We just need to get the thing off of there so we
can
pull the planetary gear and separate the T-case from the tranny. I'm not
sure we will rebuild the OD.

Let's just suppose for a moment that we get the OD off. The next thing we
want to do is disassemble the T-case and try to mix its parts together with
some parts from a Model 20 to make one good one.

Let me explain in a little more detail

1. We have a Model 20 with 26 teeth that has perfect gears and has a 1 1/4"
intermediate shaft.

2. We have a Model 18 that also has perfect gears but has a 1 1/8"
intermediate shaft.

From what I have been told the Model 20 and Model 18 cases are
interchangeable. So we want to build the 1 1/4" model 20 case as a model
18.
My question is will the intermediate shaft and gear from the model 20 work
in this case with the model 18 gears. It looks like it will work but I was
hoping that this wasn't unbroken ground here on Willys Tech.

If we can make all of this work, we will have a 1 1/4" model 18 that will
work with the 26 tooth OD and I will get a spare 29 tooth out to the deal
for
my truck.

If we can sort all of this out we should have a t-case rebuilding day at my
house in a few weeks and maybe even a rebuild guide written. I'm getting
closer to making that Missouri trip happen every day. :-)

Rick S (TX)
In a message dated 6/19/99 9:13:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
rc2ls@... writes:

<<
I very recently went through the same problem. First, get yourself a
picture of the parts break down. If you have an old AA catalog there's
one
in it. What I discovered is that if it has been sitting then the
planetary
gears are froze up. Also the shaft may be stuck in the housing. The
shaft
is supposed to slide out. That is if you have removed all the retainers.
Degrease the heck out of it so you can see everything. I wound up having
to
tap on the spacer that is behind the nut to get the shaft out. I'll have
to
go look at it to remember exactly how it all came out.
Remember the brass hammer? Use a brass drift pin.
Remember what Merl says? "Never beat on the threaded end of anything". >>
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Re: cj2 tires/overhaul/introduction

Reed Cary
 

Ron;

What are you doing running the 7.00x16s on the GPW. I was almost positive the M-38 ran those, from
stock?

Reed (CA)

--- "Ronald L. Cook" <rlcook@...> wrote:
From: "Ronald L. Cook" <rlcook@...>

Ed,
I would stick with the 6.00X16 NDT for two reasons. Clearance and
power. That is the size the little four banger was designed to turn.
Bigger is just hard on clutches, transmissions, x-fer, you name it. I
happen to have 7.00X16 on my GPW at the present and it really doesn't
like them. I am geared a little higher than you, but I still think the
6.00 is a more suitable size.
If you do decide to sell the little Willys, give this Iowegian a
chance.

Ron, Ia
43GPW, 51M38

Ed Dyvig wrote:

From: "Ed Dyvig" <eddyvig@...>

Hi everyone. Couple of questions: I have 6.00x16 snow tires on stock rims on
my 47 CJ2A. If I bought some NDT tires what would be the best size for my
Jeep? I was thinking about 6.50 or 7.00 unless clearance problems would
arise.
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Re: CJ-2A Axles

Reed Cary
 

David:

Firstly, somebody is pulling your leg about the CJ-4. Only one is known to exist. Check out the 3B
site for details.

As for the best axle u-joints, that is a matter of opinion. I have seen (someplace) an opinion
that the Spicer Cardon (common u-joint) is absolutely the best, bar none. THe other two, the
Rzeppa and the Bendix are early constant-velocity types (at least I think they are). The Rzeppa
seems to be close in design to those used on VWs and other front wheel drive vehicles w/ a
transaxle. I have the Bendix type on my '51 3A, and have no complaints. So what can *I* say?

Reed (CA)


--- David Best <dbest@...> wrote:
Anybody got an opinion on rzeppa joint axles Vs. u-joint axles in early Jeeps? I've got a
combination of the two.
Also, how rare would a CJ-4 be? A friend of mine has found one.
David




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Re: cj2 tires/overhaul/introduction

Ronald L. Cook
 

Ed,
I would stick with the 6.00X16 NDT for two reasons. Clearance and
power. That is the size the little four banger was designed to turn.
Bigger is just hard on clutches, transmissions, x-fer, you name it. I
happen to have 7.00X16 on my GPW at the present and it really doesn't
like them. I am geared a little higher than you, but I still think the
6.00 is a more suitable size.
If you do decide to sell the little Willys, give this Iowegian a
chance.

Ron, Ia
43GPW, 51M38

Ed Dyvig wrote:


From: "Ed Dyvig" <eddyvig@...>

Hi everyone. Couple of questions: I have 6.00x16 snow tires on stock rims on
my 47 CJ2A. If I bought some NDT tires what would be the best size for my
Jeep? I was thinking about 6.50 or 7.00 unless clearance problems would
arise.


CJ-2A Axles

David Best
 

Anybody got an opinion on rzeppa joint axles Vs. u-joint axles in early Jeeps? I've got a combination of the two.
Also, how rare would a CJ-4 be? A friend of mine has found one.
David


Re: How do you remove the OD

Ross Cook
 

I very recently went through the same problem. First, get yourself a
picture of the parts break down. If you have an old AA catalog there's one
in it. What I discovered is that if it has been sitting then the planetary
gears are froze up. Also the shaft may be stuck in the housing. The shaft
is supposed to slide out. That is if you have removed all the retainers.
Degrease the heck out of it so you can see everything. I wound up having to
tap on the spacer that is behind the nut to get the shaft out. I'll have to
go look at it to remember exactly how it all came out.
Remember the brass hammer? Use a brass drift pin.
Remember what Merl says? "Never beat on the threaded end of anything".

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick48CJ2A@... <Rick48CJ2A@...>
To: WillysTech@... <WillysTech@...>
Date: Saturday, June 19, 1999 12:40 PM
Subject: [WT] How do you remove the OD


From: Rick48CJ2A@...

I've been trying to remove a WARN OD from a model 18 and I can't get it to
come off. I removed the 5 bolts around the case and then the shifter
linkage. It slips out of the T-case about 1/8" and stops. Can someone
tell
me the secret to getting it off. I will not use force. I read the factory
installation instructions (very poorly written) and they don't mention any
kind of retainer, so what gives? Does the OD selector shaft have to be in
a
certain position? Patiently waiting. :-)

Rick S (TX) Yes this is my day to ask the questions. :-)
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Re: (WT)302 in willys

Landen Schooler
 

Geno Hacker wrote:

From: Geno Hacker <linkupgear@...>

I have a 49 Willys pickup with a Ford 302 in it. I have heard that you can
put 351 heads on it for more power. I know this might seem off subject but
I was wondering if anyone knows how this will afect the low end performance.
Any thoughts...comments?
Thanks
Geno Hacker - Arizona 49 4x4 pu
Well if you go ahead and do this, you'll be needing a parts
source for your D25 and Timkin axles...

In short....don't do it.

Landen Schooler


drive line noise

 

I just put new springs on my 49CJ3A. A1" lift was built into the springs but
it gave me a full 2" lift over the worn out stock springs. My problem is when
driving it and coasting the drive line makes a lot of noise. I have all new
ujoints and I put in a 1degree shim to tip the axel up incase the ujoint
angle was too great with the lift. Nothing has help. To make the noise I
need to be going over 30MPH and then put the tranny on neutral, or let off
the gas slightly. If I fully let off the gas so the engine is slowing the
vehical the noise goes away. Also if I stall on the power there is no noise.
I have checked the slinger on the rear drive shaft for rubbing and found some
on the back side by the seal. I made a shim to place the yoke out farther
to give more space for the slinger but this has not helped.
P.S. I have removed the from drive shaft and have lockout hub, this should
eliminate the front end.

Greg
Chanhassen
CJ3A


Brake Line Replacement

 

I am about to replace may brake lines (3 on the PU). Any tips before I
begin? The old ones are pretty beaten up and somewhat frayed.

Any comments welcome. I am learning to ask first . . . .

Thanks,

Jim

56 PU L6 226
CA


Re: How do you remove the OD

RGGRAY
 

Rick,
Is this a contest? To remove the OD unit from the transfer
you must remove the cover on the back of the OD unit, remove
the cotter key, remove the nut. After doing this, if the other five
bolt are that mount the unit to the transfer have been removed. the
unit will slide back off the shaft....

Rick/cc

----------
From: Rick48CJ2A@...
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: [WT] How do you remove the OD
Date: Saturday, June 19, 1999 12:38 PM

From: Rick48CJ2A@...

I've been trying to remove a WARN OD from a model 18 and I can't get it
to
come off. I removed the 5 bolts around the case and then the shifter
linkage. It slips out of the T-case about 1/8" and stops. Can someone
tell
me the secret to getting it off. I will not use force. I read the
factory
installation instructions (very poorly written) and they don't mention
any
kind of retainer, so what gives? Does the OD selector shaft have to be
in a
certain position? Patiently waiting. :-)

Rick S (TX) Yes this is my day to ask the questions. :-)
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Re: Pickup tailgate nuts was (6 Volts Signal Flashers/PU Tail Gate Tip)

 

Rick,

I had a similar problem with the captive nut on the other side of the truck.
When I would turn the bolt the nut would turn with it. Again I turned to
duct tape and pvc pipe.
Materials:
Open end wrench that fits the (non)captive square nut, I think it was 1/2
inch.
Lots of duct tape
1/2 pvc irrigation pipe - about 15 inches long.
Flash light
Helper to tease you as you get frustrated.
Optional: a dark place to work so you can "see the light".

The Tool:
Find the proper size open end wrench (1/2 inch?), put it half way in the 1/2
pvc pipe. Too keep the wrench from moving around cut some wood shims (wedge
shaped) and tapped them between the wrench and the pvc pipe. Put the shims on
one side so the wrench is closer to one side of the pvc than the other. Use
a liberal amount of duct tape around the mid section of the wrench and the
pvc to secure the wrench in place.

The Procedure - (a patient helper may be needed.) Also, marinate the nut and
bolt in your favorite liquid wrench solution for a few days.

Feed the "tool" down the tail gate shaft. By having the wrench further to
one side of the pvc you can try different angles of attack. Look down the
shaft to see the nut. This is where a dark place to work and a flashlight
comes in handy. Shine the flashlight down the shaft so you can see when the
nut lines up with the wrench. Like fishing, you either hook up immediately or
it takes forever use the "WT Force" to feel when the wrench is on the nut.

Once you hook up, have your trusty assistant use a socket drive to remove the
bolt. Try to refrain from swearing each of the 27 times the wrench slips off
the nut. You will find by pushing the pvc pipe in different directions you
can get better leverage. I tried doing this by my self for an hour. I would
get the wrench on the nut and then try to move down and turn the socket
drive. Either the wrench would slip off or the socket would pop off.
Actually, this is how I broke the first one off and started the other process.

One other method I thought of as a last resort, slide a metal pipe in there,
use a 8 pound sledge and break the nut off of the captive. But then, the
little voice said, "do it right the first time".

Good luck,

If my directions are unclear let me know.

I bet Vern could make us all a professional tool as described above that
would allow the interchange of various end pieces for working in restricted
places. :)

Jim
56 PU L6 226
CA


Re: Digest Number 429

Don Miller
 

Help! Can a T86 transmission replace my defective T90? The T86 is from my
parts CJ5 V-6 and the T90 is in my CJ3B. I also have the bell housing ,
engine, and transfer case from the CJ5. Maybe the best solution is to put
V-6 and all in CJ3B. V-6 is froze up (lack of use) and Hurricane run very
well. Appreciate any comments. Thanks
Don in Burlington NC
---(0)IIIIII(0)---


(WT)302 in willys

Geno Hacker
 

I have a 49 Willys pickup with a Ford 302 in it. I have heard that you can
put 351 heads on it for more power. I know this might seem off subject but
I was wondering if anyone knows how this will afect the low end performance.
Any thoughts...comments?
Thanks
Geno Hacker - Arizona 49 4x4 pu


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Re: How do you remove the OD

 

In a message dated 6/19/99 7:12:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
rggray@... writes:

<<
Rick,
Is this a contest? To remove the OD unit from the transfer
you must remove the cover on the back of the OD unit, remove
the cotter key, remove the nut. After doing this, if the other five
bolt are that mount the unit to the transfer have been removed. the
unit will slide back off the shaft....

Rick/cc >>

Ok Rick,
I'm puzzled by this. What is holding that shaft to the planetary gear
assembly?

I was of the impression that the planetary gear bolted onto the tranny main
shaft in place of the output gear and that the OD slid into the planetary
gear assembly. The installation instructions never mention installation of
the second cover or the nut and cotter pin so I assumed that these were only
removed for rebuilding the OD. When looking at the IPB I can't find anything
that looks like it would hold the shaft in the planetary gear assembly.

Rick S (TX)


Re: How do you remove the OD

 

MVP,
I'm going to try this tomorrow and see what happens. Thanks.

In a message dated 6/19/99 8:08:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
therbfrm@... writes:

<< Rick:

My 1986 Warn OD came w/ a tag attached to the shift selector on the OD
that
read that the OD should be installed w/ the OD disengaged (rod pushed all the
way in on the OD unit). I would assume the same is true for the removal.

You might have to pull and twist the unit at the same time after you have
removed the 5 bolts that mate the transfer case and OD unit to get the unit
removed. Be careful to pull straight back and twist so you don't bend the oil
supply tube. Then you just remove the the nut and retaining clip to remove
the
planetary gear assembly from the T-90 output shaft.
>>


(No subject)

 

Howdy, I just signed on and wanted to get acquainted. My name is jim and I
live in North carolina mountains. I have a 1947 cj2a which I have almost got
restored. Would like to hear from you guys. Jim


Re: How do you remove the OD

 

Ross,
Everything moves and operates as advertised, so I don't thing it's frozen
(good thought though). We just need to get the thing off of there so we can
pull the planetary gear and separate the T-case from the tranny. I'm not
sure we will rebuild the OD.

Let's just suppose for a moment that we get the OD off. The next thing we
want to do is disassemble the T-case and try to mix its parts together with
some parts from a Model 20 to make one good one.

Let me explain in a little more detail

1. We have a Model 20 with 26 teeth that has perfect gears and has a 1 1/4"
intermediate shaft.

2. We have a Model 18 that also has perfect gears but has a 1 1/8"
intermediate shaft.

From what I have been told the Model 20 and Model 18 cases are
interchangeable. So we want to build the 1 1/4" model 20 case as a model 18.
My question is will the intermediate shaft and gear from the model 20 work
in this case with the model 18 gears. It looks like it will work but I was
hoping that this wasn't unbroken ground here on Willys Tech.

If we can make all of this work, we will have a 1 1/4" model 18 that will
work with the 26 tooth OD and I will get a spare 29 tooth out to the deal for
my truck.

If we can sort all of this out we should have a t-case rebuilding day at my
house in a few weeks and maybe even a rebuild guide written. I'm getting
closer to making that Missouri trip happen every day. :-)

Rick S (TX)

In a message dated 6/19/99 9:13:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
rc2ls@... writes:

<<
I very recently went through the same problem. First, get yourself a
picture of the parts break down. If you have an old AA catalog there's one
in it. What I discovered is that if it has been sitting then the planetary
gears are froze up. Also the shaft may be stuck in the housing. The shaft
is supposed to slide out. That is if you have removed all the retainers.
Degrease the heck out of it so you can see everything. I wound up having to
tap on the spacer that is behind the nut to get the shaft out. I'll have to
go look at it to remember exactly how it all came out.
Remember the brass hammer? Use a brass drift pin.
Remember what Merl says? "Never beat on the threaded end of anything". >>


Re: Wonka

bmagee
 

SHES ALIVE SHES ALIVE


after sitting 27 years she has 40 lbs oil pressure and purrs like a
kitten let the WONKA on the road!

-----Original Message-----
From: bmagee <puttpirate@...>
To: WillysTech@... <WillysTech@...>
Date: Saturday, June 19, 1999 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WT] Wonka


From: "bmagee" <puttpirate@...>

Thanks Rob for the welcome, im in the process of changing all the points
plug rotor plug wires coil etc,,,,and fuel lines from the pump to the ww
carb.
hopefully i will get her to spark id love to hear it run a bit. the
firewall of mine
was altered a bit as well, and done very cleanly. Hopefully by tommorow
ill
send
a report shes alive !shes alive!
-----Original Message-----
From: wohleb@... <wohleb@...>
To: WillysTech@... <WillysTech@...>
Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] Introduction


From: wohleb@...

Welcome Bill,
The Stude V8 was actually a common repower as it was set up for
6V pos ground. Also, the engine did not put to much strain on the
tranny or axles. I have a 51 with the same conversion. The firewall
was altered to make it work. Be sure and check the front springs
as the motor is heavy which could let her bottom out.
Rob

From: "bmagee" <puttpirate@...>
To: <WillysTech@...>
Date sent: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:56:27 -0700
Send reply to: WillysTech@...
Subject: [WT] Introduction

From: "bmagee" <puttpirate@...>


Hello fellow Willys..

Figured i would introduce myself,, come out of the garage so to speak. I
am
a long time Willys Fan, who FINALLY got his dream I recently towed home a
51
4x473 to my home. I have been wheelin since 74 when i bought my first new
rig a FJ40. I now own a 98 TJ, a 95 YJ (sons) a 93 ZJ ( wifes) and the
'51
i am restoreing for my daughters first car. The wagon had been sitting
for
27 years and had a tree growing between the bumper and grill! It has
taken
me two years of jaw'n with the original owner to have him part with her,
all
the locks work, the keys etc all chrome is on her, i had to air one tire
and pump the brakes and we towed her home with a tow chain. the major
modification was old Louie got tired of them damn @#$%^&* chevys passin
him,
so he slapped a '54 Studebaker 232 v8 in her called her a willybaker!
Well
i actually like the idea of the studie in her so i picked up a 6 volt
die
hard, pushed the starter button and she turns over clean ( actually had
been manually turned over every year so the motor turns ovr well
ordered
all the new plugs points ect from napa and plan on starten her this
weekend, before i rebuild her. anyway The new Willys name is WONKA as
in
Willys Wonka ( since im william kind of a double entendre..) I know
she
wont be stock without the 4 banger but the studie puts out 120 Hourses
kind of seems like a good fit and unique as well..... any coments you all
want to make i am all ears i am planing on havin here on the road by
fall.....


BIll Magee
Live in northern Idaho willys country, jeep country,



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Re: How do you remove the OD

Kendal Jackson
 

Rick,

If you promise to let me have the OD I will make a deal with the devil to
get it off for you ;-) (just kidding....really)


At 01:38 PM 6/19/99 EDT, you wrote:
From: Rick48CJ2A@...

I've been trying to remove a WARN OD from a model 18 and I can't get it to
come off. I removed the 5 bolts around the case and then the shifter
linkage. It slips out of the T-case about 1/8" and stops. Can someone tell
me the secret to getting it off. I will not use force. I read the factory
installation instructions (very poorly written) and they don't mention any
kind of retainer, so what gives? Does the OD selector shaft have to be in a
certain position? Patiently waiting. :-)

Rick S (TX) Yes this is my day to ask the questions. :-)
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