Re: Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?
Does anyone know if a transmission floor cover off a cj- will fit a 48 willys pickup?
On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:51 AM, Ted McCann <mccannrealty@...> wrote: Thanks for posting about Willys truck warehouse, never knew it existed. Need some body work done on my ‘59.? Hopefully they do good work and are good to deal with. Ted On May 6, 2021, at 10:22 AM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:
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Just to circle back… Had a ton of work just done with transmission and transfer case. Turns out the both the $%$*#!@ mechanics that worked on it previously were more tinker toy scam mechanics than anything.? Lots of $$$4 lost :(
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Los Angeles is nothing but scum, bums, actor wanna bes and homeless. God I need outta here. </rant>
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But thought this might be appreciated. Me and my current old school mechanic decided electric orange might be nice ---LOL. Flashy ay?
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Re: Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?
Thanks for posting about Willys truck warehouse, never knew it existed. Need some body work done on my ‘59.? Hopefully they do good work and are good to deal with.
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On May 6, 2021, at 10:22 AM, AWORKOFMARC <marcwhittemore@...> wrote:
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Just to circle back… Had a ton of work just done with transmission and transfer case. Turns out the both the $%$*#!@ mechanics that worked on it previously were more tinker toy scam mechanics than anything.? Lots of $$$4 lost :(
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Los Angeles is nothing but scum, bums, actor wanna bes and homeless. God I need outta here. </rant>
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But thought this might be appreciated. Me and my current old school mechanic decided electric orange might be nice ---LOL. Flashy ay?
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Re: Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?
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Just to circle back… Had a ton of work just done with transmission and transfer case. Turns out the both the $%$*#!@ mechanics that worked on it previously were more tinker toy scam mechanics than anything.? Lots of $$$4 lost :(
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Los Angeles is nothing but scum, bums, actor wanna bes and homeless. God I need outta here. </rant>
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But thought this might be appreciated. Me and my current old school mechanic decided electric orange might be nice ---LOL. Flashy ay?
 
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If I was closer and not warming up for spring planting, I'd be there......the life of farming....
Landen Schooler
Ps, I was reading my email in reverse order... I see now you're in Idaho...
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On Thu Apr 01 17:21:29 CDT 2021 jay wrote:
Just throwing this out there, I have a 230 out of a 1962 wagon. I did a light rebuild on it several years ago and it has since sat in the garage under cover. Carb will need rebuilt and I have bell housings for willy's and keep wagoneer/gladiator. Like to get $800 at least for everything. Letting the group know before ebay.
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You may want to tell where you and the OHC6-230 is located??
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Hi Jay - where are you located?
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Re: [External] [WillysTech] L6-226 for sale???
Skip, there is a shop in Santa Fe NM that could dl that I think, but it would not be cheap. ?If you need a phone number I can get you one.
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On Apr 1, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Skip Owens via < skipowens@...> wrote:
The pickup is in Colorado Springs, CO. No if's and or but's, it will need to be rebuilt. Compression has dropped on all six cylinders and there's no power. I would agree w Pruitt, when I rebuilt it I don't think we used the hardened valve seats. I purchased the complete kit from one of the willys suppliers, and I don't think that was an option at the time.?? Unfortunately, I'm afraid I'm past doing it again myself and the shops I used to use around here are all gone. Also, we really don't drive it all that much, down to Home Depot in the summer to load up on mulch & flowers, the required ice cream shop runs, etc.,? but I do still plow in the winter. That's why I thought I'd look for one that runs to just swap this one out.?
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Just throwing this out there, I have a 230 out of a 1962 wagon. I did a light rebuild on it several years ago and it has since sat in the garage under cover. Carb will need rebuilt and I have bell housings for willy's and keep wagoneer/gladiator. Like to get $800 at least for everything. Letting the group know before ebay. 
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Re: [External] [WillysTech] L6-226 for sale???
The pickup is in Colorado Springs, CO. No if's and or but's, it will need to be rebuilt. Compression has dropped on all six cylinders and there's no power. I would agree w Pruitt, when I rebuilt it I don't think we used the hardened valve seats. I purchased the complete kit from one of the willys suppliers, and I don't think that was an option at the time.?? Unfortunately, I'm afraid I'm past doing it again myself and the shops I used to use around here are all gone. Also, we really don't drive it all that much, down to Home Depot in the summer to load up on mulch & flowers, the required ice cream shop runs, etc.,? but I do still plow in the winter. That's why I thought I'd look for one that runs to just swap this one out.?
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Find a long established forklift company because older forklifts use the exact same Continental engine.....
On Mar 30, 2021 8:57 AM, "Skip Owens via groups.io" <skipowens@...> wrote: Guys,
It's been a while since I've logged into the group - my bad. I've got a '61 pickup with the 226 that I rebuilt many moons ago. This winter I finally started having issues with the motor itself. Being 23 years older and perhaps just a wee less joint dexterity than I had last time, rather than rebuild the engine I got the OK from my other half to replacing it. Anyone have or know of a source for a fair to middling condition flathead 226?
Thanks,
Skip
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Re: [External] [WillysTech] L6-226 for sale???
When I was running the 327 in Tinkertoy I pulled the heads after
around 75,000 miles and found one exhaust seat hammered about 3/16"
into the head. I replaced all the exhaust valves as well as intake
and exhaust seats and guides. After another 75,000 miles I tore the
engine down when I replaced it with the 383 and found all the valves
and seats looking good still. Definitely worth it if you're putting
a lot of miles on it.
John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Graham, Wash.
On 3/31/2021 6:32 AM, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io wrote:
> It depends. If the engine has been run on leaded gas and the seats
> are not cut, there is enough lead embedded to continue running a lot
> of miles on unleaded gas, But, if one cuts the seats during a valve
> job, then the wear starts . About 12,000 miles and the wear is so
> bad there is no compression. I think there are several more factors,
> like how hot the valve gets and spring pressure (new ones) , but
> Both the rear cylinder exhaust seats were gone by an eighth of an
> inch at 12,000 miles on my Chevy V8. Before that, I had run
> probably 100,000 miles on unleaded .
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> With weak springs and low miles you probably could get by. Pruit
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>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Curt Holland <curt@...
>> <mailto:curt@...>> wrote:
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>> Pruitt, Agree on the high zinc oils for flat tappets....a must
>> have. However, I don't agree on the hardened valve seats. I have
>> several vintage car engines that are doing just fine on their
>> engines I rebuilt, and the valves are seated against the original
>> cast iron seats. There has been no bedding, seating, erosion of any
>> valves into the cast iron like was claimed years ago that would
>> happen when tetraethyl lead was removed from fuel. Every few years
>> I check valve clearances, and clearance is staying steady, meaning
>> nothing is happening. I've put thousands of miles on these engines.
>> The milling of blocks/heads to make room for hardened seats is an
>> unnecessary risk to install something not needed..... especially
>> for engines that will likely only ever see a few thousand miles for
>> generations to come. Just my opinion. Curt
>>
>>
>>
>> /Sent from beautiful Bessemer City/ On Mar 30, 2021 6:28 PM, "steve
>> boyer via groups.io "
>> <flash7313@...
>> <mailto:flash7313@...>> wrote: i don't know where
>> you are located, but if it's anywhere near southern nj i know of a
>> place that can do a flathead 226 rebuild well and i thought his
>> prices were reasonable. did mine 4-5 years ago and it runs like a
>> champ. steve
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 03:02:50 PM EDT, Pruit Ginsberg via
>> groups.io <pruitg@...
>> <mailto:pruitg@...>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Most likely you will need to have yours rebuilt. It should have
>> hardened valve seats if you did not install them last time. That
>> procedure may be a problem with valve in block engines. Maybe
>> someone who reb uilds flat head fords? Yes, it will be expensive.
>> And use oil with the lubricant for flat tappet engines. Gibbs
>> racing oil is one. Pruit
>>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Dan Beeker <debeeker@...
>>> <mailto:debeeker@...>> wrote:
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>> Don't know where you are located. In the midwest, Jasper Engines
>> has a
>>
>>
>>> good reputation for remanufactured engines. Expensive but have a
>>> good warranty. If they can do it you will likely need to ship
>>> your old engine to them as the demand for flathead 226s is not
>>> large. They generally work through local shops. It's getting hard
>>> to find mechanics/machinists that have experience with old
>>> engines.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On 3/30/2021 9:57 AM, Skip Owens via groups.io
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Re: [External] [WillysTech] L6-226 for sale???
It depends. If the engine has been run on leaded gas and the seats are not cut, there is enough lead embedded to continue running a lot of miles on unleaded gas, ?But, if one cuts the seats during a valve job, then the wear starts . About 12,000 miles and the wear is so bad there is no compression. ?I think there are several more factors, like how hot the valve gets and spring pressure (new ones) , but Both the rear cylinder exhaust seats were gone by an eighth of an inch at 12,000 miles on my Chevy V8. ?Before that, I had run probably 100,000 miles on unleaded .
With weak springs and low miles you probably could get by.?
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On Mar 30, 2021, at 10:24 PM, Curt Holland < curt@...> wrote:
Pruitt,
Agree on the high zinc oils for flat tappets....a must have.
However, I don't agree on the hardened valve seats. I have several vintage car engines that are doing just fine on their engines I rebuilt, and the valves are seated against the original cast iron seats. There has been no bedding, seating, erosion of any
valves into the cast iron like was claimed years ago that would happen when tetraethyl lead was removed from fuel. Every few years I check valve clearances, and clearance is staying steady, meaning nothing is happening.
I've put thousands of miles on these engines.
The milling of blocks/heads to make room for hardened seats is an unnecessary risk to install something not needed..... especially for engines that will likely only ever see a few thousand miles for generations to come. Just my opinion.
Curt
Sent from beautiful Bessemer City
On Mar 30, 2021 6:28 PM, "steve boyer via " < flash7313@...> wrote:
i don't know where you are located, but if it's anywhere near southern nj i know of a place that can do a flathead 226 rebuild
well and i thought his prices were reasonable.? did mine 4-5 years ago and it runs like a champ.? steve
On Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 03:02:50 PM EDT, Pruit Ginsberg via < pruitg@...> wrote:
Most likely you will need to have yours rebuilt. ?It should have hardened valve seats if you did not install them last time. ?That procedure may be a problem with valve in block engines. ?Maybe someone who reb uilds flat head fords? Yes, it will be expensive.
?And use oil with the lubricant for flat tappet engines. ?Gibbs racing oil is one.
Pruit
On Mar 30, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Dan Beeker < debeeker@...> wrote:
Don't know where you are located. In the midwest, Jasper Engines has a
good reputation for remanufactured engines. Expensive but have a good warranty. If they can do it you will likely need to ship your old engine to them as the demand for flathead 226s is not large. They generally work through
local shops. It's getting hard to find mechanics/machinists that have experience with old engines.
Dan
On 3/30/2021 9:57 AM, Skip Owens via
wrote:
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Guys,
It's been a while since I've logged into the group - my bad. I've got a '61 pickup with the 226 that I rebuilt many moons ago. This winter I finally started having issues with the motor itself. Being 23 years older and perhaps just a wee less joint dexterity
than I had last time, rather than rebuild the engine I got the OK from my other half to replacing it. Anyone have or know of a source for a fair to middling condition flathead 226?
Thanks,
Skip
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Re: [External] [WillysTech] L6-226 for sale???
Pruitt,
Agree on the high zinc oils for flat tappets....a must have.
However, I don't agree on the hardened valve seats. I have several vintage car engines that are doing just fine on their engines I rebuilt, and the valves are seated against the original cast iron seats. There has been no bedding, seating, erosion of any
valves into the cast iron like was claimed years ago that would happen when tetraethyl lead was removed from fuel. Every few years I check valve clearances, and clearance is staying steady, meaning nothing is happening.
I've put thousands of miles on these engines.
The milling of blocks/heads to make room for hardened seats is an unnecessary risk to install something not needed..... especially for engines that will likely only ever see a few thousand miles for generations to come. Just my opinion.
Curt
Sent from beautiful Bessemer City
On Mar 30, 2021 6:28 PM, "steve boyer via groups.io" <flash7313@...> wrote:
i don't know where you are located, but if it's anywhere near southern nj i know of a place that can do a flathead 226 rebuild
well and i thought his prices were reasonable.? did mine 4-5 years ago and it runs like a champ.? steve
On Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 03:02:50 PM EDT, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io <pruitg@...> wrote:
Most likely you will need to have yours rebuilt. ?It should have hardened valve seats if you did not install them last time. ?That procedure may be a problem with valve in block engines. ?Maybe someone who reb uilds flat head fords? Yes, it will be expensive.
?And use oil with the lubricant for flat tappet engines. ?Gibbs racing oil is one.
Pruit
On Mar 30, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Dan Beeker < debeeker@...> wrote:
Don't know where you are located. In the midwest, Jasper Engines has a
good reputation for remanufactured engines. Expensive but have a good warranty. If they can do it you will likely need to ship your old engine to them as the demand for flathead 226s is not large. They generally work through
local shops. It's getting hard to find mechanics/machinists that have experience with old engines.
Dan
On 3/30/2021 9:57 AM, Skip Owens via
wrote:
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Guys,
It's been a while since I've logged into the group - my bad. I've got a '61 pickup with the 226 that I rebuilt many moons ago. This winter I finally started having issues with the motor itself. Being 23 years older and perhaps just a wee less joint dexterity
than I had last time, rather than rebuild the engine I got the OK from my other half to replacing it. Anyone have or know of a source for a fair to middling condition flathead 226?
Thanks,
Skip
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Re: [External] [WillysTech] L6-226 for sale???
i don't know where you are located, but if it's anywhere near southern nj i know of a place that can do a flathead 226 rebuild well and i thought his prices were reasonable.? did mine 4-5 years ago and it runs like a champ.? steve
On Tuesday, March 30, 2021, 03:02:50 PM EDT, Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io <pruitg@...> wrote:
Most likely you will need to have yours rebuilt. ?It should have hardened valve seats if you did not install them last time. ?That procedure may be a problem with valve in block engines. ?Maybe someone who reb uilds flat head fords? Yes, it will be expensive. ?And use oil with the lubricant for flat tappet engines. ?Gibbs racing oil is one. Pruit On Mar 30, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Dan Beeker < debeeker@...> wrote:
Don't know where you are located. In the midwest, Jasper Engines has a good reputation for remanufactured engines. Expensive but have a good warranty. If they can do it you will likely need to ship your old engine to them as the demand for flathead 226s
is not large. They generally work through local shops. It's getting hard to find mechanics/machinists that have experience with old engines.
Dan
On 3/30/2021 9:57 AM, Skip Owens via wrote:
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Guys,
It's been a while since I've logged into the group - my bad. I've got a '61 pickup with the 226 that I rebuilt many moons ago. This winter I finally started having issues with the motor itself. Being 23 years older and perhaps just a wee less joint dexterity
than I had last time, rather than rebuild the engine I got the OK from my other half to replacing it. Anyone have or know of a source for a fair to middling condition flathead 226?
Thanks,
Skip
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Re: [External] [WillysTech] L6-226 for sale???
Most likely you will need to have yours rebuilt. ?It should have hardened valve seats if you did not install them last time. ?That procedure may be a problem with valve in block engines. ?Maybe someone who reb uilds flat head fords? Yes, it will be expensive. ?And use oil with the lubricant for flat tappet engines. ?Gibbs racing oil is one. Pruit
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On Mar 30, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Dan Beeker < debeeker@...> wrote:
Don't know where you are located. In the midwest, Jasper Engines has a
good reputation for remanufactured engines. Expensive but have a good warranty. If they can do it you will likely need to ship your old engine to them as the demand for flathead 226s
is not large. They generally work through local shops. It's getting hard to find mechanics/machinists that have experience with old engines.
Dan
On 3/30/2021 9:57 AM, Skip Owens via wrote:
This message was sent from a non-IU address. Please exercise caution when clicking links or opening attachments from external sources.
Guys,
It's been a while since I've logged into the group - my bad. I've got a '61 pickup with the 226 that I rebuilt many moons ago. This winter I finally started having issues with the motor itself. Being 23 years older and perhaps just a wee less joint dexterity
than I had last time, rather than rebuild the engine I got the OK from my other half to replacing it. Anyone have or know of a source for a fair to middling condition flathead 226?
Thanks,
Skip
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Re: [External] [WillysTech] L6-226 for sale???
Don't know where you are located. In the midwest, Jasper Engines has a good reputation for remanufactured engines. Expensive but have a good warranty. If they can do it you will likely need to ship your old engine to them as the demand for flathead 226s
is not large. They generally work through local shops. It's getting hard to find mechanics/machinists that have experience with old engines.
Dan
On 3/30/2021 9:57 AM, Skip Owens via groups.io wrote:
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Guys,
It's been a while since I've logged into the group - my bad. I've got a '61 pickup with the 226 that I rebuilt many moons ago. This winter I finally started having issues with the motor itself. Being 23 years older and perhaps just a wee less joint dexterity
than I had last time, rather than rebuild the engine I got the OK from my other half to replacing it. Anyone have or know of a source for a fair to middling condition flathead 226?
Thanks,
Skip
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Guys,
It's been a while since I've logged into the group - my bad. I've got a '61 pickup with the 226 that I rebuilt many moons ago. This winter I finally started having issues with the motor itself. Being 23 years older and perhaps just a wee less joint dexterity than I had last time, rather than rebuild the engine I got the OK from my other half to replacing it. Anyone have or know of a source for a fair to middling condition flathead 226?
Thanks,
Skip
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On Amazon prime, there is a 1995 movie called "Three Wishes".? There's a 2 WD wagon used by the family, sounds and looks stock,? same colors as the one I rode around in when I was small.?? Recommended for the car watching,? anyway.
Dan
-- Dan 53 2wd Wagon Eugene, OR
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Re: Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case?
? ? Ok cool… Thanks Gents!? Slowly bring this old girl back to her glory days.. ? Checking with my mechanic now…? but it almost makes more sense to just replace it since everything has to come off anyways… ?May have found a case closer to me in Riverside for $50. And the drive to get there. ? ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Pruit Ginsberg via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 6:11 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [WillysTech] Know of a place I might find a used 57 Wagon Transfer Case? ? And afterward to cool slowly. If it is not in a bad place, it could be brazed easier than welded, but you would have to get the crack area red hot for the brass to bond. Pruit
On Mar 17, 2021, at 4:50 PM, Pruit Ginsberg via <pruitg@...> wrote: ? It is cast iron, not the easiest to weld, but can be. ?Use ss rod. ?Might depend on where it is cracked. It must be a Dana 18 in a 57. Pruit
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Hey Gents....
Found out my 57 Wagon transfer case is cracked. Booo.?
Wondering if it can be repair welded (that is, if it's not made of pot metal) or if there's a recommended salvage yard I might find one of those?
Thanks
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