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CJ2A Oil Filter Pipes

mrtnmead
 

Thanks for help gratefully recieved in the past.

I have a new question: The pipe that carries oil to the oil filter
is connected to the the front most hole on the engine block. Is this
a requirement or can I change the position to the second port from
the front? This is because I feel the oil pipe will lay better fromt
that port as it is not in the way of the fuel pump.

The fuel pump is hard enough as it is to remove (the front most bolt
is difficult to access)without impeding access further with a pipe.

BTW the pipes I have are not original but made up at a local
hydraulic shop.

Many Thanks

Martin
'48 CJ2A
Bourke
Aus.


Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

 

Here's a good photo of the thermostat in the proper position.


John




--- In WillysTech@..., "Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:

John,



Right out of the FSM. I recommend a 160? version. That way straight
water
can be used.



Also some people drill a small 1/16" to 1/8" hole in the thermostat
flange.
This starts the flow and helps heat the thermostat.







Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous Jeep?




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery
Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

<>

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From: WillysTech@...
[mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:02 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



Well, the thermostat was indeed installed upside down. I corrected
it and started the engine. In about two minutes the engine heated
again (the needle went to H on the gauge) and again the hose from
the
thermostat was cool to touch while the others were too hot to
touch.
I probably need a new thermostat. What is the correct one and can
they be purchased locally at NAPA or will I have to order one from
a
jeep supply house?

Mine is stamped 192.

John

--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@> wrote:

John,



Normally there is a "To Radiator" message stamped on one side.

Here are 3 pictures showing the thermostat installed.



The thermostat fits into a thermostat retainer which fits in the
water
outlet.



The temperature sensor needs to be on the engine side. Some times
there is a
small hole drilled in the flange.





Here are 3 links

. <>
org/cgi-bin/i/images/pg129.jpg

. <>
org/cgi-bin/i/images/pg130.jpg

. <>
org/cgi-bin/i/images/pg133.jpg







Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR
. <> org



1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys
Recovery
Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free
.
<>
org/9-11-01_Tribute/America_Attacked.htm
< <>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html>
<>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html
**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

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ups.com
[mailto:WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com]
On
Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:55 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



So what does an upside down thermostat look like? I'll look at it
tomorrow.

John

--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@> wrote:

I vote for the upside down thermostat. That is a common mistake



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR
. <. <> org>
org



1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys
Recovery
Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free
.
<.
<>
org/9-11-01_Tribute/America_Attacked.htm>
org/9-11-01_Tribute/America_Attacked.htm
< <
<> .com/BloodofHeroes.html>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html>
<
<> .com/BloodofHeroes.html>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html
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** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

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ups.com
[mailto:WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com]
On
Behalf Of RJ Kanary
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:58 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



At this time, the prime suspect is a failed or mis-installed
thermostat.The heater hose getting hot demonstrates that the
water
pump is
functioning, and that coolant is circulating.

RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@msn. <mailto:mrkringles%
40msn.com>
com>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get hot
fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom of the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to the
top
of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine getting hot
in
only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is the
first
time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
John










--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve
start
the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is
purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs
flow
to
the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the
water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my
truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the
water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for
engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in
the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer
months
when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on
this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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No, I didn't try that.

John

--- In WillysTech@..., " Rivas" <casey96@...> wrote:

Hello, Did you try to run it without the thermostat
Jim



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Rivas
 

Hello, Did you try to run it without the thermostat
Jim


Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

 

John,



Right out of the FSM. I recommend a 160? version. That way straight water
can be used.



Also some people drill a small 1/16¡± to 1/8¡± hole in the thermostat flange.
This starts the flow and helps heat the thermostat.







Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous Jeep?




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

<>

**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:02 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



Well, the thermostat was indeed installed upside down. I corrected
it and started the engine. In about two minutes the engine heated
again (the needle went to H on the gauge) and again the hose from the
thermostat was cool to touch while the others were too hot to touch.
I probably need a new thermostat. What is the correct one and can
they be purchased locally at NAPA or will I have to order one from a
jeep supply house?

Mine is stamped 192.

John

--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:

John,



Normally there is a "To Radiator" message stamped on one side.

Here are 3 pictures showing the thermostat installed.



The thermostat fits into a thermostat retainer which fits in the
water
outlet.



The temperature sensor needs to be on the engine side. Some times
there is a
small hole drilled in the flange.





Here are 3 links

. <>
org/cgi-bin/i/images/pg129.jpg

. <>
org/cgi-bin/i/images/pg130.jpg

. <>
org/cgi-bin/i/images/pg133.jpg







Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR
. <> org



1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery
Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free
.
<>
org/9-11-01_Tribute/America_Attacked.htm
< <>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html>
<>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html
**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto:WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
On
Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:55 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



So what does an upside down thermostat look like? I'll look at it
tomorrow.

John

--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@> wrote:

I vote for the upside down thermostat. That is a common mistake



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR
. <. <> org> org



1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys
Recovery
Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free
.
<.
<>
org/9-11-01_Tribute/America_Attacked.htm>
org/9-11-01_Tribute/America_Attacked.htm
< <
<> .com/BloodofHeroes.html>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html>
<
<> .com/BloodofHeroes.html>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html
**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
[mailto:WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com]
On
Behalf Of RJ Kanary
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:58 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



At this time, the prime suspect is a failed or mis-installed
thermostat.The heater hose getting hot demonstrates that the
water
pump is
functioning, and that coolant is circulating.

RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@msn. <mailto:mrkringles%
40msn.com>
com>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get hot fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom of the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to the top
of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine getting hot in
only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is the first
time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
John










--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start
the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is
purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow
to
the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the
water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my
truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for
engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months
when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

 

Well, the thermostat was indeed installed upside down. I corrected
it and started the engine. In about two minutes the engine heated
again (the needle went to H on the gauge) and again the hose from the
thermostat was cool to touch while the others were too hot to touch.
I probably need a new thermostat. What is the correct one and can
they be purchased locally at NAPA or will I have to order one from a
jeep supply house?

Mine is stamped 192.

John

--- In WillysTech@..., "Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:

John,



Normally there is a "To Radiator" message stamped on one side.

Here are 3 pictures showing the thermostat installed.



The thermostat fits into a thermostat retainer which fits in the
water
outlet.



The temperature sensor needs to be on the engine side. Some times
there is a
small hole drilled in the flange.





Here are 3 links













Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery
Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

<>

**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@...
[mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of John Francis
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:55 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



So what does an upside down thermostat look like? I'll look at it
tomorrow.

John

--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@> wrote:

I vote for the upside down thermostat. That is a common mistake



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR
. <> org



1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys
Recovery
Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free
.
<>
org/9-11-01_Tribute/America_Attacked.htm
< <>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html>
<>
.com/BloodofHeroes.html
**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
[mailto:WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com]
On
Behalf Of RJ Kanary
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:58 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



At this time, the prime suspect is a failed or mis-installed
thermostat.The heater hose getting hot demonstrates that the
water
pump is
functioning, and that coolant is circulating.

RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@msn. <mailto:mrkringles%
40msn.com>
com>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get hot fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom of the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to the top
of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine getting hot in
only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is the first
time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
John










--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%
40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start
the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is
purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow
to
the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the
water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my
truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for
engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months
when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

 

John,



Normally there is a "To Radiator" message stamped on one side.

Here are 3 pictures showing the thermostat installed.



The thermostat fits into a thermostat retainer which fits in the water
outlet.



The temperature sensor needs to be on the engine side. Some times there is a
small hole drilled in the flange.





Here are 3 links













Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle



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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:55 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



So what does an upside down thermostat look like? I'll look at it
tomorrow.

John

--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
"Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:

I vote for the upside down thermostat. That is a common mistake



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1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery
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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



At this time, the prime suspect is a failed or mis-installed
thermostat.The heater hose getting hot demonstrates that the water
pump is
functioning, and that coolant is circulating.

RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@msn. <mailto:mrkringles%40msn.com>
com>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get hot fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom of the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to the top of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine getting hot in
only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is the first
time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
John










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"RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow to
the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the
water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my
truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for
engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months
when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

 

John,

While you have it out drill an 1/8" hole in the flange to allow air to
bubble out. When you first fill with coolant you can get some air
pockets and the L134 can run a little hot till they all get out. The
hole helps speed this up. Make sure you keep topping off the coolant
level until it finds the level it likes.

Rick Mc
'47 CJ2A
Iowa



So what does an upside down thermostat look like? I'll look at it
tomorrow.

John

--- In WillysTech@..., "Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:

I vote for the upside down thermostat. That is a common mistake



Ric -.
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Home of the World Famous JeepR



Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

RJ Kanary
 

The non-Robertshaw type should have the wax capsule facing the engine.The side of the thermostat with the bridge in it that centers the wax capsule and valve should face the radiator.The Robertshaw type, working from fading memory, should have the bellows end facing the engine.

RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@...>
To: <WillysTech@...>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


So what does an upside down thermostat look like? I'll look at it
tomorrow.

John


--- In WillysTech@..., "Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:

I vote for the upside down thermostat. That is a common mistake



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery
Vehicle



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[mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of RJ Kanary
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:58 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



At this time, the prime suspect is a failed or mis-installed
thermostat.The heater hose getting hot demonstrates that the water
pump is
functioning, and that coolant is circulating.

RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@msn. <mailto:mrkringles%40msn.com>
com>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get hot fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom of the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to the top of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine getting hot in
only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is the first
time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
John










--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow to
the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the
water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my
truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for
engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months
when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

 

So what does an upside down thermostat look like? I'll look at it
tomorrow.

John


--- In WillysTech@..., "Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:

I vote for the upside down thermostat. That is a common mistake



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Toledo, Ohio
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1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery
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From: WillysTech@...
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Behalf Of RJ Kanary
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:58 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



At this time, the prime suspect is a failed or mis-installed
thermostat.The heater hose getting hot demonstrates that the water
pump is
functioning, and that coolant is circulating.

RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@msn. <mailto:mrkringles%40msn.com>
com>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get hot fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom of the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to the top of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine getting hot in
only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is the first
time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
John










--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com,
"RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com>
ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow to
the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the
water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my
truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for
engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months
when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

 

I vote for the upside down thermostat. That is a common mistake



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle



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** Variables Won't ****
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From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of RJ Kanary
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:58 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit



At this time, the prime suspect is a failed or mis-installed
thermostat.The heater hose getting hot demonstrates that the water pump is
functioning, and that coolant is circulating.

RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@msn. <mailto:mrkringles%40msn.com> com>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get hot fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom of the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to the top of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine getting hot in only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is the first time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
John










--- In WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com,
"RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@...> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@...>
To: <WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow to the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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Re: F134 Cooling Circuit

lross7170
 

John,

Your correct. The valve was the first way to control the heat during
the summer months. The reason it heats faster bypassing it is the
heater core acts like a second radiator when the valve is open.

Larry
1948 CJ2A


--- In WillysTech@..., "RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@...> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@...>
To: <WillysTech@...>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow to the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

RJ Kanary
 

At this time, the prime suspect is a failed or mis-installed thermostat.The heater hose getting hot demonstrates that the water pump is functioning, and that coolant is circulating.


RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@...>
To: <WillysTech@...>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get hot fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom of the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to the top of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine getting hot in only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is the first time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
John










--- In WillysTech@..., "RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@...> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@...>
To: <WillysTech@...>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow to the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

 

I opened this valve and find the hose connected to get hot fairly
quickly. I then felt the large hose going to the bottom of the
radiator and it too is hot. However, the large hose to the top of
the radiator is cool. The gauge shows the engine getting hot in only
a couple of minutes so I shut it down. Since this is the first time
I put coolant in it is there something I am missing?

Thanks,
John










--- In WillysTech@..., "RJ Kanary" <rjkanary@...> wrote:

It is possible that the valve should have been left open
during the
filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start the
engine and
recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is purged,
you may
reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@...>
To: <WillysTech@...>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow to the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the water
pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water
pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the
winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months when
cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this
matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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Re: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit

RJ Kanary
 

It is possible that the valve should have been left open during the filling an purging of the cooling system.Open the valve start the engine and recheck the level. Refill as required.After the system is purged, you may reclose the valve if you wish.

RJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Francis" <mrkringles@...>
To: <WillysTech@...>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [WT] F134 Cooling Circuit


On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow to the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the water pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months when cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John



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F134 Cooling Circuit

 

On the rear of my engine is a water valve that directs flow to the
heater in my cab. From the heater another hose runs to the water pump.
I do not have my heater mounted yet but want to drive my truck. I
connected a single hose directly from the valve to the water pump. It
is necessary for this valve to be opened all the time for engine
cooling to take place? I'm not certain if they opened in the winter
months and closed it completely during the hot summer months when cab
heat was not needed. Would someone please educate me on this matter.
I closed it completely and it seems my engine got hot fast.

Thanks,
John


Re: [WT] Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

 

Hi Tobias,



For a modification of my parking brake I made a print to size of the parking
brake system, including part of the back of the transfercase. For whatever
it¡¯s worth I¡¯ll mail it to you. May be it¡¯ll be of help for starting
sketching.



Regards,

Robert



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Tobias Gogolin
Skickat: den 21 september 2007 21:14
Till: WillysTech@...
?mne: Re: [WT] Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]



Thanks Robert!
Its true and I think I found the ideal spot for where the motor could go!
Right next to the drive shaft to the rear differential. behind the
transfercase there is plenty of space on my CJ7!
The motor could be geared to the axis where the drive shaft connects this
way one would have the option to drive electrically with Transfercase or
gearbox in neutral, and one could even do electric 4WD!

Those Briggs and Straton etek motors or newer Perm(anent Magnet) 132 are
amazingly light and small at 8-15 HP.
I have to start make some spread sheets on torque from standstill, max speed
and potential range.
Of course I expect to find problems there... I know that most electric
conversions replace the motor and use the gear box to gear for torque or
speed as necessary!

This etek went for just over 300 bucks...
.
<
STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130153369694&rd=1>
com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&
viewitem=&item=130153369694&rd=1

On 9/19/07, Carla van Linge en Robert Verheij < carla.robert@
<mailto:carla.robert%40telia.com> telia.com>
wrote:

I think a very interesting idea, although not something I am considering
for
my Willys.



However, in a previous job I was working on using a stirling engine (close
to a hot-air engine) for use in a bus, so that explains my interest.



Disadvantage of connecting the electrical motor to either the front or
rear
axle is the added unsprung weight, and that the asymmetric weight of the
E-motor on the axle will cause the axle to rotate (leaf springs are
flexible
by the nature of the beast). And adding more weight to the axle will also
increase the tendency of the axle "to jump around the place" when the road
gets worse. For me it would be a NoNo to add any substantial weight
directly
to the axle.



But what about this? There may be another point to connect the E-motor to.

And that is the end of the transmission (of the T90). There you can
connect
an overdrive to, so an electrical motor should also be possible. The
E-motor
would always be spinning, but depending on the mode, it would act as a
generator to load the batteries, or as the engine driving the car alone or
even in combination with the gasoline engine. Extra boost! Extra
advantage:
the E-motor is not connected to the axle.



Stay in touch, very interested to hear where it will be going, and I am
sure
the Willys Gods will smile at the experiment.



Robert

Sweden

Willys M38A1, 1955



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?mne: [WT] Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]



Hey everybody!
I'm new to this list, just subscribed, and im happy to see how active this
group is!

With rising fuel prizes and all I have been thinking...
What if I removed the rear drive shaft and placed an electric motor there

Then I could drive on batteries for the short local hauls
and when I run down the battery I can simply lock the front hubs and
continue driving with the normal motor...

Anybody ever try that?

I have an 84 CJ7 with the 4.2l inline 6

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Superwinch Locking Hubs Now Removed

 

The Superwich hubs have been removed, but not in the way I had hoped. I
bought a Allen driver to fit my impact driver, went home and gave it a
shot. After several blows on the bolt the head was "stripped." So I
resorted to Plan B by drilling out the bolt. This did slight damage to
the hub because the bolt has a slightly tapered head. I think I will
replace that bolt with a cap screw. If that doesn't work I may have to
replace the hub. At least now I can completely disassemble the front
hubs to clean and inspect the wheel and king pin bearings.

Rodney Frey

-----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of Keith Haw
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:06 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Re: Removing Superwinch Locking Hubs

Mine came with allen drivers and screw drivers. I would think that
standard 3/8" allens, for ratchet wrench, would work.
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: Frey, Rodney
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: [WT] Re: Removing Superwinch Locking Hubs


Thanks for this idea. Didn't think of that and I've got an impact
driver. Is there an Allen driver attachment?

rf

-----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...]
On
Behalf Of Keith Haw
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:20 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] Re: Removing Superwinch Locking Hubs

I use an Impact Driver like this,


93481 . Mine will work with screw, allen or nut driver attachments.
Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: John Francis
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:00 PM
Subject: [WT] Re: Removing Superwinch Locking Hubs

Have you tried an air impact wrench?

Johnb

--- In WillysTech@..., "Frey, Rodney" <rodfrey@...> wrote:
>
> Good Morning,
>
> This group is a wonderful source for advice and support when we
novices
> run into problems. And I have run into a problem.
> The 46CJ2A had Superwinch lockout hubs when I bought it. There is
no
> way to know when they were installed or how long since they were
last
> removed. I need to get them off so I can work on the brakes. The
hubs
> are bolted on with six hardened steel Allen head bolts. As one
might
> expect, all of the bolts came loose except one. I have used PB
Blaster
> on it, tapped on it, ruined two L-shaped Allen wrenches, bought a
new
> T-handle one last night that didn't do the job, gently heated the
hub
> hoping that differential expansion rates would provide some help.
> Bottom line: bolt is still in the hub.
>
> Question: What advice can you offer to get this stubborn bolt out?
>
> Rodney Frey
> 46 CJ2A
> 48CJ2A
> North Newton, KS 67117


Re: [WT] Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]

 

Thanks Robert!
Its true and I think I found the ideal spot for where the motor could go!
Right next to the drive shaft to the rear differential. behind the
transfercase there is plenty of space on my CJ7!
The motor could be geared to the axis where the drive shaft connects this
way one would have the option to drive electrically with Transfercase or
gearbox in neutral, and one could even do electric 4WD!

Those Briggs and Straton etek motors or newer Perm(anent Magnet) 132 are
amazingly light and small at 8-15 HP.
I have to start make some spread sheets on torque from standstill, max speed
and potential range.
Of course I expect to find problems there... I know that most electric
conversions replace the motor and use the gear box to gear for torque or
speed as necessary!

This etek went for just over 300 bucks...



On 9/19/07, Carla van Linge en Robert Verheij < carla.robert@...>
wrote:

I think a very interesting idea, although not something I am considering
for
my Willys.



However, in a previous job I was working on using a stirling engine (close
to a hot-air engine) for use in a bus, so that explains my interest.



Disadvantage of connecting the electrical motor to either the front or
rear
axle is the added unsprung weight, and that the asymmetric weight of the
E-motor on the axle will cause the axle to rotate (leaf springs are
flexible
by the nature of the beast). And adding more weight to the axle will also
increase the tendency of the axle "to jump around the place" when the road
gets worse. For me it would be a NoNo to add any substantial weight
directly
to the axle.



But what about this? There may be another point to connect the E-motor to.

And that is the end of the transmission (of the T90). There you can
connect
an overdrive to, so an electrical motor should also be possible. The
E-motor
would always be spinning, but depending on the mode, it would act as a
generator to load the batteries, or as the engine driving the car alone or
even in combination with the gasoline engine. Extra boost! Extra
advantage:
the E-motor is not connected to the axle.



Stay in touch, very interested to hear where it will be going, and I am
sure
the Willys Gods will smile at the experiment.



Robert

Sweden

Willys M38A1, 1955



_____

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Tobias Gogolin
Skickat: den 18 september 2007 19:45
Till: WillysTech@...
?mne: [WT] Idea going round in my head... [Hybrid conversion]



Hey everybody!
I'm new to this list, just subscribed, and im happy to see how active this
group is!

With rising fuel prizes and all I have been thinking...
What if I removed the rear drive shaft and placed an electric motor there

Then I could drive on batteries for the short local hauls
and when I run down the battery I can simply lock the front hubs and
continue driving with the normal motor...

Anybody ever try that?

I have an 84 CJ7 with the 4.2l inline 6

--
Tobias Gogolin
cel. (646) 124 32 82
skype: moontogo
messenger: usertogo@hotmail. <mailto: usertogo%40hotmail.com> com

You develop an open source motor controller at
. < >
yahoo.com/group/GoBox

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Re: [WT] Coming Out!

SF
 

Man,I can relate. Body work take a bunch of time. I have the cab and bed left to paint. But, those are the two biggest pieces. The rest of the parts all turned out pretty darn good. I don't like this paint tho. But, too late to use something else.
SF

----- Original Message -----
From: John Francis
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WT] Coming Out!


That's a bummer. It looks great in the pictures! My rear fenders
took the most time as they were really beat up. If I did it again I
would just buy new fiberglass ones. The fellow that is doing my body
work and paint is retired and works in his garage. It takes him a
while to get things done but he does good work at a fair price. I'm
still waiting on the bed and rear fenders. Once all is done he wants
the assembled truck back for two days to "chicken shit" it, he says.

There is still a lot to do on this truck and I wish I had more time
to spend on it. Keep us posted as to your progress.

John

--- In WillysTech@..., Scott Strudwick <scott@...> wrote:
>
> John congrats. Your about 3-4 weeks ahead of me. Looks Great!! I
had to
> send mine back to a different body shop as the first one screwed
the cab
> up big time. I am suing the original body shop as they painted
directly
> over rust and didn't prep it properly and just did an overall #@&@
(*^
> job. Doors were not hung properly, 27 items on the list of items
done
> improperly. They had over 1/2" of mud (bondo) on one of the rear
fenders
> alone. Also applied the bondo over rust without prepping it
properly. It
> has been a painful process dealing with this. I should have it back
in
> about 3 weeks than I can finish the wiring and get it running. I
have a
> couple of pictures of when I assembled the body last week before
sending
> it to the new body shop.
>
>

c=
>
> or under photos "Strud's 53 Pickup Progress"
>
> Scott "Strud" Strudwick
> strudsjeep@...
> www.strudsplace.com
> Amsoil Dealer
> -o|||||o-
> 49 CJ-2A
> 50 CJ-3A
> 53 475 4WD PU
> 57 FC-170
> 59 CJ-5 Jeep-A-Trench
> 65 J-200 Gladiator
> 69 CJ-5 225 V-6
> 01 XJ Cherokee Ltd
> Esko, MN
>
>
>
> John Francis wrote:
> >
> > Tonight the Willys moved on its own power for the first time in 14
> > months. A simple trip out of the barn and back in was enough to
break
> > open a bottle of champaign with the family! Look under "coming
out" in
> > the photo section for pictures.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>