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For members here who also belong to the toyotamotorhome.org site, we have been having problems. Site is down completely but we are working on it. I will drop a message here when it's back up. Thank you for your patience Linda Scott

Last Nov 2023, I overheated my 1982 Toyota Sunrader I owned for 24 years. Of course no brick and mortar shop would deal with something so tall and old, so finally a mobile mechanic named Will came to my driveway in San Diego. Will determined it was a blown head gasket and said he would charged me $1500 to fix it. I paid Will $700 down that he asked for, and he did get the cylinder head remachined, but the engine was already rebuilt 50K miles before. So being that there wasn’t much room to grind, the machinest sold the mechanic a “thicker head gasket”. After putting it on, Will called me Christmas Eve and said that tomorrow he would put the rest of the parts on and then take it for a test drive. But before doing so, he “asked me a favor”. He had earlier told me that he was living out of San Diego hotels at $225 - $325/night because he was staying with his best friend, a married woman, and her husband got jealous and kicked him out. Well now, Christmas Eve, he claimed he lost his debit card, therefore had no way to get a bed for the next two nights. So Will asked if I could advance him $400 for a hotel for the next two nights, till his bank would open to replace his debit card. Being that Christmas was on Monday that year, and he had solid 5 Yelp stars, my kind-hearted soul got scammed into letting him charge my credit card for another $400 to buy him a bed for Christmas. So now I was out $1100. He abandoned the job, never came back, and long story short when the credit card dispute asked that I send them a “second opinion from another mechanic”, I found out why Will abandoned the job. He had always promised me that the engine below was not damaged “I know it isn’t ! I worked for an engine rebuilder for 5 years and I know! Only the head gasket was blown” (I saw the piece was missing between cylinders 3 and 4). Well the second opinion mobile mechanic did a compression test that showed 30 in two cylinders and 60 in the other two. I realized at that moment when Will did his own compression test on Christmas Eve and saw the hopeless numbers, he came up with the scheme to scam this old gullible senior woman for another $400. The credit card dispute did get me back the $1100. But here we are today. Due to putting out other fires in my life, I haven’t dealt with getting my engine replaced till now, a full year later. Yesterday, a local tire shop that a body shop referred me to https://www.yelp.com/biz/san-diego-tire-and-wheel-outlet-san-diego-6?osq=Sd+Tires+and+Wheels&override_cta=Get+pricing+%26+availability found a used 22R engine for me located in LA with 155,000 miles on it for $1999, plus they quoted 8 hours labor at $150/hour to install it, totaling $3200, excluding water pump or other parts, as they have not seen my vehicle to determine other replacement needs. Unlike other shops, the tire shop has a large lot and outdoor area to store my Sunrader. My VIN is JTRN44DOC0052810 , 5 spd manual trans (I changed the 4 spd to 5 spd). The engine was rebuilt before at 120K and now has 173K miles on it. I googled Toyota 22R for sale, and come up with numerous findings for new or remanuf engines for cheaper than that used one for $2000. An RV repair place told me about a rebuilt one for $500 or I heard of used engines for $350 are the prices people are throwing at me. So $1999 for a used engine that has 155,000 miles on it sounds outrageous. Last year, when I was looking for a used engine, the reviews for the businesses selling them all had 1 star ratings, reviews described such horrible experiences in great detail, I was too afraid to do business with them, and even told them so on the phone. Last year, two mechanics quoted me $5000 and $6000 to install a remanufactured engine they provide. Later other people told me a used engine is so much cheaper. I don’t know what to do, and I don’t have any experience with engine replacements and what are rip off prices and what are fair prices . I just want to get my Sunrader going so I could enjoy it. People told me it is too risky and full of unknown issues when you rebuild an engine that has been rebuilt before. Everyone I told this to, said "That is true". Like already the cylinder head barely had enough room to be smoothed, so a thicker gasket had to be sold to Will. Another mechanic said, "The thicker gasket is a red flag already!" When people tell me comments like that, I feel so confused and can't take action, cos I know NOTHING. Any help or feedback where to get another engine would be appreciated. Location of the disabled Sunrader is La Jolla, CA 92037 -- Julia - Scottsdale, AZ

Update from Julia about 22R engine search. When I said that I had too many fires to put out in my life 2023, the fires were all about different people cheating me out of a lot of money, all having to do with the same house, but different situations. Now I have 5 separate lawsuits I wanna do Pro Per, cos attorney costs would be more than I hire them to recover. I told Tika I don't have time to "relax and enjoy being on vacation at her Quartzsite Rally", as she told me to. I don't know what it is about me that I am so vulnerable to being cheated! Anyhow here are the options I have for a motor so far, not in any order of expense or desirability: 11. A local (still 30 miles away) metal recycling yard has a used 1983 22R motor for $1200 that comes out of a Hilux Pickup not motorhome, they said is in “good running condition”, but they “have no idea how many miles is on it”. Warranty is 30 days from date of purchase, not date of installation. 2.2. The 1984 22R with 104,215 miles on it that Linda said was at El Rey Auto Parts in LA, costs $1400 (has $100 core charge) has 90-day warranty. El Rey guy named Said said it costs $300 for shipping to San Diego. Right now I don’t have a labor quote from anyone willing to install this used motor if I buy it, except Precision below, who charges $250/hr for 20 hours. 3.3. When I first contacted this 5 solid Yelp star mechanic a year ago, Precision Auto https://www.yelp.com/biz/precision-auto-san-diego (solid 5 star Yelp reviews) owner told me he could install a remanuf 22R for $6000. The business is only about 10 miles from where the Sunrader is stored at. But I didn’t take action then because I didn’t know how much other options would cost. So today it would cost $7097.06. Problem is he doesn’t have a place to store something as tall as Sunraders are and cannot be moved due to non-working engine, there is no locked yard to be covered by insurance. I asked how much the remanf engine itself cost. Service lady named Courtney quoting, said $3000. When I told her that Linda found the used engine for $1400 that another business had marked up $1000 to $2400, and “did you do that to this remanf engine, mark it up?” Courtney admitted, “Yes, Precision would be paying $2000 for the remanuf engine and selling it to me for $3000”. She said the labor to install an engine is 20 hours. Their labor charge is $175/hr, but if I provided my own motor, they would charge $250/hr, and we concluded that the price difference between used motor and remanuf motor with cheaper labor costs to install, it would be better to go with price for installing a remanuf engine. Also the owner cannot get the motor installed within the 30 days used motor warranty which starts from the date of used motor purchase, not from the date of the finished installation. But Precision will give a 4 year warranty on their remanuf engine, and a 2 year labor warranty for the remanf motor. 4.4. The California Mini Truck salvage yard in Montclair, that Tika and Linda said good words about, has a matching 1982 used motor. But for some reason Junior took a look at that motor and does not feel comfortable selling it, as is, used, He said he would rebuild it for $4900 including all new other parts such as new radiator, water pump, and other parts too numerous I forgot. So I called my insurance towing and they quoted $857 from my address in San Diego to Calif Mini Truck 4002 State St., Montclair for 107 miles (says Google Maps). By using Yelp quotes, I got the towing price down, down, down to only $500 here> https://www.yelp.com/biz/david-towing-escondido-3 21 solid 5 star Yelp reviews (incl those weeded reviews not included in the posted ones). Yes, I made him google images of what a Sunrader 18 ft was, and that it weighs 5000 lbs. But Junior had to make sure they could get the parts for the rebuild. Junior called the parts supplier 3 times in the last week, and they still haven’t called him back with an answer, so that is where I am with Calif Mini Truck today. That’s my report, so what do you think, you guys? -- Julia - Scottsdale, AZ

QUARTZSITE RALLY RESERVATIONS NOW BEING ACCEPTED! Unlike some more informal rallies in Quartzsite, this is not a Rally that you can just show up at. The number of spots we have available is 17. Therefore if you are wanting to attend, please CALL US ON THE PHONE soon to register (not via group post or text), and then send your payment right away to secure your campsite before we are full. Now here below are all the specific details (please read it all carefully): - - - - The dates are Thursday, January 16 to Tuesday, January 21, 2025. This is our annual rally that takes place during the first weekend of the huge RV Show which is held in Quartzsite every year. Actually, if you want to, you can stay even longer -- some folks in our group will be staying for the entire 10-day show. The location where we will be camping is Stuffed Camel RV Park in Quartzsite. It is the not the same RV park as last year, nor where we were two years ago. Rather it is a small family-owned RV park on the north side of the Interstate on the Main Street — about .8 miles’ walk to the RV show’s “Big Tent.” The "Early-Bird" registration rate totals $135 for the five nights with full hookups. The reason we are putting a limit on the number of folks we can accommodate this year — only 17 Toyota RVs -- is because that’s how many sites there are in this RV park. This means that if we have that many attendees, we will pretty much have the RV park all to ourselves! To reserve one of the 17 spots, please CALL US (626-798-4510) to be put on the list, and then send your payment right away. The fee for an RV campsite is a very reasonable $25 per day which includes water, electric, and sewer if requested. If you don’t plug into the electricity, it is only $20 per day (honor system, please). (Note: No generators are permitted). In addition there is a one-time registration fee of $10 to cover the costs of putting on this multi-day Rally. The full fee is to be paid when you register with US — not with the RV Park as previously. NOTE: This park does NOT have unlimited dry camping space like the other rally locations, so you need to be paid up and be on the list to get in. If you cancel, your full payment is refundable upon request, if another Toyota RVer takes over your reservation, less a $10 cancellation fee. You need to send us your total registration fee in advance via Zelle, Paypal, or check. The address for electronic funds transfer or for US mail will be provided when you call to register. To encourage folks to pay soon, the $10 "Early-Bird" price is for registrations paid before December 27th. If you wait until the last 3 weeks, the registration fee goes up to $20 (plus nightly fees) — but that is only if spots are still available. If we have more folks wanting to come than we have spots, we will be creating a waiting list. If for some reason you are not able to attend, please let us know as soon as possible so your spot can be given to someone on the waiting list this year. So you can know more about what to expect, the first attachment to this email is the video panorama that was taken at a previous year’s Rally, in case you haven’t seen it. Many of you who were there are in the video. Also attached is a short video taken at this year’s RV park. The park is rather basic, but it has hook-ups, and it will basically be all ours! Now here below are some additional Rally details: The annual RV Show in Quartzsite is a really fun event with free admission. A giant show tent is erected with hundreds of vendors that cater to RVers. They also present dozens of Seminars about various topics related to RVing. You can view a list of them on RV Show’s website (see the link below). In addition to the RV Show’s “Big Tent,” the rest of the town turns into one giant swap meet. There are specific sections for antiques, gems & minerals, and new merchandise. This year the "Pow Wow" Gem and Mineral Show will be taking place at the Community Center (walking distance across the street) during the first few days of our Rally, if you would like to go to it (like on Friday). Plus th

Lost a front hub cap on our 87 Dolphin. Is there a good source for a replacement? 5.5” diameter. Thanks Ken

Happy Thanksgiving, Everyone! Is anybody camping this holiday weekend?

After starting our 1987 Toyota Sunrader today a number of times, on our last stop at the grocery store, it wouldn’t start. Fortunately, it was within walking distance of home, to get our car and our groceries home and have supper. All startup sounds are the same, and all the instrument lights show bright. But, nothing from the starter. What is heard is a single click from this attached electrical device. Turn the key to start - one click. The same each retry. Any ideas? We bought this Sunrader 13 years ago on 11/1/11. And when I bought it, I never had the idea of not using it. I thought we would always enjoy traveling with it. But our last trip with it was in June 2023, and that was just for three days. I start it every three months, drive it around to exercise the tires, but time hasn’t allowed for doing more with it. On 2/23/23, our Grand Girl was born and started living with us. And that is where our time is being well spent. My birthday is June 23rd, so each month on the 23rd, we celebrate our birth days. She was just 20 months of age and on the same day, I was 952 months of age. In other words, 79+. And it is age though, that has me now thinking of letting somebody else use the Sunrader, for we aren’t getting around to it. Yet when it started right off today, I couldn't help by think, well if it still has get up and go, maybe I can keep up with it. The 22RE has an age of only 59,000 miles. I realize I don’t have such longevity. Such thoughts were with me as I drove it around today, pleased again that it started right up. Though we were just driving errands around town, moving along with it - I was moved, like the pleasing experience of being on the road again. Got it filled with gas, Sta-Bil in it and the cover ready to shelter it from the winter rains. I just got to get it home. Tom

When I have a trickle charger on the truck battery... is the house battery also being charged?

For many folks it is time to put away your RV for the winter; for others, the snowbird season is just starting!

I am in search of the two vertical insert trim pieces and the top drip edge. Just wondering if there are other options people have explored if they are not available. Best to all! Thanks, David

Hi guys, I just to pick your brains. Winterizing my 92 Warrior, I disconnect both lines to the hot water tank and join them together with a brass fitting. Not hard, but not the easiest thing to do. What does everyone else do? I know they sell bypass kits with valves, but I'm not sure how "standard" the plumbing is in these older machines. I could build my own bypass from the hardware store. I just wonder what everybody else does. I don't want to reinvent the wheel. Thanks! -- JohnJab01 in Ohio 92 Warrior 97,000 miles 3.4 swap

Disregard, I had somehow saved the wrong installation instructions, they were for the same model number but not for the toyota 1 ton chassis, I found the correct ones here: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0693/4560/7962/files/Timbren_SES_Installation_Instructions_-_sku_TOR2002.pdf?v=1679341714

Hi All, I know at least a couple of you have Timbrens installed, can you please reply with a pic? I had a spring shop redo my springs a few years ago and they threw away the lower brackets for the timbrens saying I wouldn't need them anymore and I miss them. The company sent me the lower brackets again but I can't remember how they're supposed to mount and the instructions aren't helping. Here's a pic of the rubber part still mounted, I need to figure out how/where to mount the lower plate. Thanks! Ed

Spotted this on Craigslist while shopping for my "What if a garbage truck wipes out my car and I need one right away?" car. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/d/san-leandro-1989-toyota-sunrader/7795140675.html Buzz L. San Jose, CA Former '86 Dolphin, '89 HiLux, and '96 Tacoma owner

I like to ask, if a 88 Toyota RV that has not run for 10 years, a v6 motor, 145K kms, or maybe miles, needs lots of camper love, but would the truck part be redeemable, no rust and looks clean, if one pulled the spark plugs and soaked inside with oil, and wait a few days would you think the motor be able to start, minding if all the extra details were tended to like fuel pumps and anything else, looking here for advice on yes no or solid rust inside the motor. This would need to be put on trailer home, don't want to buy scrap metal. Thank you for any thoughts, opinions & wisdom's, .... thank you! Bruce.

Hello Fellow Toyota RVers, If you haven't heard yet, this year the 17th Annual Fall Mid-West Toyota RV Rally will take place on the third weekend in October: Thursday, October 17th through Sunday, October 20th. (That's in just 2 weeks). We will be at the “Springfield Area Highland Games and Celtic Festival” in New Berlin, Illinois. This is a Scottish-themed Festival with Scottish Dancers, Scottish Food, Bagpipes, and unusual athletic competitions. We have only a limited number of campsites for this Rally, so if you are interested in reserving a site, we suggest you call us soon to avoid being disappointed. Call 626-798-4510 -- Leave a message if you get our business voicemail, and we will call you back. Tika and Tom, Rally coordinators Now here is the complete invitation -- please study it carefully as it will answer most all of your questions: - - - - - - - - - 17th ANNUAL FALL MID-WEST TOYOTA RV RALLY Location: Springfield Area Highland Games and Celtic Festival at the Sangamon County Fairgrounds in New Berlin, Illinois, 30 miles west of Springfield, Illinois. Dates: Thursday, October 17th through Sunday, October 20th — three nights. Reservations are now being taken; please note that this is not a rally where you can just show up. The RV Park where we will be staying is actually a part of the Sangamon County Fairgrounds where the festival will be taking place. (See the map links below.) This RV Park will have other festival-goers, but the staff is reserving one particular section for our group. The address is: Sangamon County Fair 316 W Birch St New Berlin, IL 62670 Please don’t re-post or share this location online without also saying that advance reservations by phone are required. The cost per night for a campsite with electricity is $40 (including tax), plus there is a one-time “rally participation fee” of $8 to cover the costs of putting on the Rally. Sites have electricity included, but if you want to hook up to the water spigot, add $5 more per day (honor system). The Fairgrounds have restrooms available in the main building, with one shower stall in each side. Free use of the dump station is included. For optimum positioning of your RV, you might want to bring a heavy-duty RV extension cord to be able to conveniently access the electric hook-up posts. Now here is the Rally Schedule: THURSDAY - Oct 17th Anytime after 3:00p - Arrive at the RV Park and check in with the Rally co-ordinators to be assigned a specific spot. 6:00p - We gather for a get-acquainted “Community Meal” around our fire circle (bring lawn chairs). Bring your own dinner but we’ll all eat together. (If the weather is rainy, we will have the community meal in one of the fairground buildings.) 7:30p - Campfire with s’mores, if enough folks are so inclined. Please bring some firewood if you can. FRIDAY - Oct 18th 9:00a - 11:00a - “Open House” for those that want to tour each other’s RVs to see what folks have done to personalize them. This usually lasts for a couple hours and is always a highlight of our Rallies. 11:30p - Group Tour of Historic Springfield, IL. Our “RV-Pool” leaves for a pre-arranged tour to visit several historic attractions: the Route 66 Museum, and President Lincoln's Historic Home and burial site 4:15p - The “RV-Pool” returns to the RV Park 6:00p - Friday evening we will have a true Potluck Dinner at the RV Park around our fire circle. Bring a dish to share (and your own table service and drink) -- we eat whatever food shows up. (As before, if the weather is rainy, we will have the potluck in one of the fairground buildings.) 7:30p - Campfire again if folks are so inclined. And again bring more firewood if you can. SATURDAY - Oct 19th The Scottish Festival takes place all day. (See the link below for the schedule.) All events are at the Fairgrounds: 9:00a - 10:00p -- Visit the Festival (Scottish attire is welcome!) -- Highland Games: various competitions -- Scottish and Celtic vendors -- Live music and entertainment (Scottish Dancers and Bagpipes) -- Clan tents -- Scottish Food vendors Online Early-Bird Festival Pricing, from

Correction, I dug a bit more and see it was custom and commercial wheel that we were getting them from, the AT100F adapters here: https://www.customandcommercialwheel.com/vw-wheels-1 I did a little searching for the correct 5x4.5 to 6x7.25 size too and they seem as elusive as always. So, should I just call custom and commercial or is there indeed a better/cheaper option now? Thanks! Ed

Hi All, where's the best source for two 5 to 6 lug adapters these days? I found the place below which I "think" is where we were getting them years ago but am hoping there may be a more affordable option these days. Also, what size should I get? https://customwheelaccessories.com/adapters/5-to-6-lug-adapters Thank you. Ed

The tiny house site featured this toyota camper https://tinyhousetalk.com/toyota-motorhome-4x4-overlander/ Liz

my 87 Seabreeze started to overheat immediately recently. What could cause it to lose water and antfreeze?