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File //tinysa-ultra-upgrade.sh updated
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The following items have been updated in the Files area of the [email protected] group. //tinysa-ultra-upgrade.sh By: Rob, W9LOT <rjgebis@...> Description: Debian/Ubuntu Linux and MacOSX (Intel and arm64) shell script to upgrade tinySA Ultra versions firmware # Download to your machine and change permissions cd ~/Downloads/ chmod 750 ./tinysa-ultra-upgrade.sh # Example ./tinysa-ultra-upgrade.sh --program tinySA4_v1.4-196-g1e9c187.bin --erase # Output == Using firmware binary: firmware/tinySA4_v1.4-196-g1e9c187.bin Checking for DFU utilities... ========================================================= Before upgrading, run self test to make sure the device is OK 1. Connect a loop cable between CH0 and CH1 ports 2. Select Config / Self Test ========================================================= Did the self-test succeed? (y/n): y ========================================================= tinySA Ultra 1. Press and hold jog button before switching on the tinySA Ultra 2. Switching on, the screen will stay black ========================================================= Continue with upgrade? (y/n): y Checking for device in DFU mode... == Running lsusb to detect DFU device... Bus 001 Device 013: ID 0483:df11 STMicroelectronics STM32 BOOTLOADER Serial: XXXXXXXXXXXX == Device found in DFU mode. == Programming firmware... It takes around 30 sec == Firmware update completed successfully. ========================================================= Reset & Calibration Connect a loop cable between CH0 and CH1 ports 1. Config / More / Clear Config: 1234 2. Config / Level Cal / Reset Calibration 3. Config / Level Cal / Select Range 4. Config / Self Test # Check tinysa-ultra-upgrade.log for all output
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dfu-util warnings and errors (ZS405 and ZS407)
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Hello Erick, I was trying to update the both units today with latest tinySA4_v1.4-196-g1e9c187.bin Following your your Firmware Upgrade page I did run $ dfu-util -a 0 -s 0x08000000:leave -D tinySA4_v1.4-196-g1e9c187.bin This produced following output. The bottom output if from my shell script wit reset steps. dfu-util 0.11 Copyright 2005-2009 Weston Schmidt, Harald Welte and OpenMoko Inc. Copyright 2010-2021 Tormod Volden and Stefan Schmidt This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Please report bugs to http://sourceforge.net/p/dfu-util/tickets/ dfu-util: Warning: Invalid DFU suffix signature dfu-util: A valid DFU suffix will be required in a future dfu-util release Opening DFU capable USB device... Device ID 0483:df11 Device DFU version 011a Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Interface #0 ... Determining device status... DFU state(10) = dfuERROR, status(10) = Device's firmware is corrupt. It cannot return to run-time (non-DFU) operations Clearing status Determining device status... DFU state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present DFU mode device DFU version 011a Device returned transfer size 2048 DfuSe interface name: "Internal Flash " Downloading element to address = 0x08000000, size = 186256 Erase [=========================] 100% 186256 bytes Erase done. Download [=========================] 100% 186256 bytes Download done. File downloaded successfully Submitting leave request... Transitioning to dfuMANIFEST state Reset & Calibrarion # Connect a loop cable to CH0 and CH1 # 1. Config / Self Test 2. Config / More / Clear Config: 1234 3. Config / Level Cal / Reset Calibration 4. Config / Level Cal / Select Range 5. Config / Self Test As you see I am running version 0.11 on my MacOS 15.3. The interesting lines are dfu-util: Warning: Invalid DFU suffix signature dfu-util: A valid DFU suffix will be required in a future dfu-util release and DFU state(10) = dfuERROR, status(10) = Device's firmware is corrupt. It cannot return to run-time (non-DFU) operations The first one I fixed by running and when refreshing the first message was gone. $ dfu-suffix -a tinySA4_v1.4-196-g1e9c187.bin -v 0483 -p df11 -d 0100 Then I did try to erase flash by running putting the device back DFU mode $ dfu-util -a 0 -s 0x08000000:mass-erase:force Which produced following output Opening DFU capable USB device... Device ID 0483:df11 Device DFU version 011a Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Interface #0 ... Determining device status... DFU state(10) = dfuERROR, status(10) = Device's firmware is corrupt. It cannot return to run-time (non-DFU) operations Clearing status Determining device status... DFU state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present DFU mode device DFU version 011a Device returned transfer size 2048 DfuSe interface name: "Internal Flash " Performing mass erase, this can take a moment Next I did try to flush again which produced a better result Match vendor ID from file: 0483 Match product ID from file: df11 Opening DFU capable USB device... Device ID 0483:df11 Device DFU version 011a Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Interface #0 ... Determining device status... DFU state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present DFU mode device DFU version 011a Device returned transfer size 2048 DfuSe interface name: "Internal Flash " Downloading element to address = 0x08000000, size = 186256 Erase [=========================] 100% 186256 bytes Erase done. Download [=========================] 100% 186256 bytes Download done. File downloaded successfully Submitting leave request... Transitioning to dfuMANIFEST state If you approve these steps, I can upload my shell script her to files for your approval. Robert
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connecting to macOS to issue commands
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Hello, I want to connect to tinySA from macOS. I did it previously for updating a firmware (dfu-util) and now tried tinySA.py following the steps according to athome.kaashoek.com/tinySA/python/. Capturing the display was ok. The device is tinySA Basic with 1.4175 firmware. Now I'd like to issue other commands, explicitly to calibrate the low output level. But don't know which scripts are used in the drivers. I only found info that there are windows and linux drivers. Would like to try to install from source to macOS. Could someone provide a link? I searched github but appears that Ho-Ro/nanovna-tools are not the right ones. Radek
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I've been reading the responses to my own thread on here and watching several YouTube videos and still feel like I do not have a good handle on the attenuation required. In the videos, I have seen multiple hams use a 40db 10w attenuator with no internal attenuation to test a 5w HT with apparently no ill effects. I've also seen some use more attenuation for lower power outputs. To my understanding from reading what has been written here and these videos: 1. I would need around 60-80db of attenuation to safely input a 1w signal into the Ultra. 2. I should not use the internal attenuator - or, alternatively, I should. 3. I should use a variable attenuator in conjunction with the 40db attenuator, or I should just use 2 40db attenuators, or I should use the 40db attenuator plus the internal on "auto". 4. I should use a CleanRF.com RF-S2K & dummy load with a 40W attenuator or by itself (but the CleanRF is only specced for 3-30Mhz, so I don't understand how it would work anyway...) I could really use some authoritative answers on how to safely test VHF/UHF/HF rigs without letting the smoke out of the Ultra. I have the 40db attenuator (10w, covers the spectrum) already. I'm not sure what else I need to obtain. Thanks, Joe AB2M
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Hello all, I ordered a NanoVNA but amazon sent me a SAUltra on accident (which I planned on ordering too anyways) But it fails the self test and the calibration too. I fed in the 30MHz cal signal and it reads way low. My old SA reads the cal signal fine. When I connect an antenna, the FM broadcast band is faint to say the least. Any tips?
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Looking for beta testers for a new product
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For a new product I'm looking for a number of testers, preferably in Europe The product is tiny and has a high resolution dual time stamping and frequency/phase measurement capability Frequency/time/phase reference can be external or internal using a built in gpsdo. The accuracy is less then the tinyPFA but it has much more functionality No specific test equipment availability is required but it's important to have a project that can benefit from the above functionality to ensure actual usage. If you are motivated to join the testing and do have sufficient time to frequently load, test and report on firmware updates, please send me a private reply with some info on your project and how you intend to use the product. If available, you can add some info on your experience and relevant test equipment Replies to the list will be ignored. -- Designer of the tinySA For more info go to https://tinysa.org/wiki
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SVHFS Conference 2025, Call for Papers & Presentations
Here's an update on the SVHFS 2025 Conference; Deadline for papers has been extended to March 17 Conference & hotel registration is open; details are in the attached file. Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC
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Good day All. I'm trying to restore/align an old FRG7 Com-radio, have a TinySA that have been using as an RF sig gen and a Zeewiie DSO1151g scope that 'should' run past 100Mhz, well lets just say 30Mhz is about its limit, this means I'm unable to look at signals in RF range. My question, attached are sample alignment procedures for the RFG-7. Given that I dont have a fit-for-purpose scope (have three scope probes) but do have a TinySA and a NanoVNA (on the way) how should I then perform the alignements that require use of a scope, so what modifications do I make to testing and how should I review the results. Scopes, Im happy with using. SA and VNA interpretation, I'm not familiar with and no option to buy a higher bandwidth scope. Thank you. Br John.
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tinySA App #Feature Request
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tinySA App does not display the RBW or attenuation when they are set to AUTO; perhaps they could be displayed on the status bar along the bottom. I also do not see a control nor display for VBW. Having all 3 displayed on screen shots would be valuable for documentation purposes, VBW control/display would be more "nice to have" as most leave it untouched. Thanks and best regards, Don Brant
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How to stop or abort an ongoing scan or scanraw command?
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Hello there, I am using the Tiny SA Ultra+ (ZS-406, firmware 1.4-196) and sending scan and scanraw commands to retrieve spectrum data, however I was wondering Is there any way to stop or abort an ongoing scan or scanraw command before it completes? From my tests, it seems that once the command is sent, the device continues the process until completion. But in certain cases, I would like to interrupt the scan early (e.g., if the user cancels the operation in my application). Thanks in advance! Juan, M0WWA
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Thanks for DFU-Buddy Software
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Thanks to chri5k for adding DFU-Buddy to the files section. I wasted about 20 minutes trying to get my windows machine to recognize my TinySA. Windows wouldn't even recognize the SA or let me install the DFuse drivers. Then I remembered seeing DFU-Buddy I had seen when I was browsing the files section. I grabbed my Mac and installed the software (you do have to go into system settings and give permission to install the software) and the rest was easy. Opened the software, found my TinySA, selected the dfu file I had downloaded and installed the firmware. Done and dusted in way less time than I had fought with the PC. Terry
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Battery of my Tinysa Ultra expired & no new available ! Does "smart" power bank is compatible ?
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Hello. I have Tinysa Ultra (1st hardware version), & using it as panadaptor to my ICOM7100 ...... It's built-in lithium battery is expired & I searched in my country, Iraq, for new original replacement but I couldn't find ! I found original power bank of smart type that has "smart" charging controller & support multiple types of voltage output (5V, 9V, 12V, 15V, 20V, 5 - 11V) with maximum power output of 85W. The "smart" power bank "automatically" determine needed voltage for the device .... I asked about it & one of my friends (YI6AT) asked me to never using it to power my Tinysa Ultra or my antenna analyzer because it can destroy such devices ! Due to my failure to find original replacement for battery of my TinySA Ultra & because the "smart" power bank is original & of high quality I prefer to ask about it's safety to be used with my TinySA Ultra. So, please help me about this. Data about power bank: - CUKTECH Power Bank - 20000mAh 85W Specifications (from it's paper user manual): - Model: PB200 - Battery Type: Lithium-ion cell - Battery Energy (Rated/Typical): 72Wh/73.44Wh 14.4V 5000mAh/5100mAh - Rated Capacity: 11000mAh (5V DC 3A) - Input Port: Type-C - Output Port: USB-A/Type-C - Input: IN1(Type-C1) 5V DC 3A, 9V DC 3A, 21V DC 3A, 15V DC 3A, 20V DC 3.25A - Output: 85W MAX (The maximum output peak power is 85W (OUT1 20V DC 3.25A OUT2 9V DC 2.22A), subject to the actual testing method adopted by CUKTECH lab. * OUT1 (Type-C1) 5V DC 3A, 9V DC 3A, 12V DC 3A, 15V DC 3A, 20V DC 3.25A, 5 - 11V DC 6.1A 67W MAX * OUT2 (Type-C2) 5V DC 3A, 9V DC 3A, 5 - 11V DC 3A 33W MAX * OUT3 (USB-A1) 5V DC 3A, 9V DC 3A, 5 - 11V DC 3A 33W MAX * Multi-Port: 5V DC 3A (OUT1 5V DC 1A OUT2 5V DC 1A OUT3 5V DC 1A) 9V DC 6A (OUT1 9V DC 3A OUT2 9V DC 3A) 12V DC 3A 15V DC 3A 20V DC 3.25A www.cuktech.com https://cuktech.com/collections/frontpage/products/cuktech-15se-power-bank-20000mah-85w-max Can I use this power bank to power my TinySA Ultra while I'm using it connected to my ICOM7100 ?? (we added IF output port for this station: YI1ZQ made such customization for his STN & for my STN) Any help is appreciated !
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Any chance to have a analog output representing RSSI level in Zero span mode? And/or level at cursor point on analog output. Like a RF-detector, just much better since Rx bandwidth can be set and much high sensitivty than typical diode-RF-detectors.
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New FW release: Ext gating repaired
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New FW release Version V0.1340 Changes: - External gating working again. External gating can only be activated using: Counter 1 using input A with gating from input B or counter 2 using input B with gating from input A. Not all illegal configurations are yet block (using counter 1 with A gated by B and then select counter 2 to use input A) -- Designer of the tinySA For more info go to https://tinysa.org/wiki
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New FW release Version V1.4195 Changes: - Reduced spurs for ZS-407 -- Designer of the tinySA For more info go to https://tinysa.org/wiki
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There is a problem with this firmware. вт, 11 февр. 2025 г., 20:11 Erik Kaashoek via groups.io <erik@...>:
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Hi, I am trying out my friend's tinySA. I'm hoping to replace my RF Explorer if I can get this issue resolved. One thing I cannot figure out is how to get the traces off the SD card just by connecting the tinySA to my Mac via the USB C cable. Any advice on an easy way to do this? This is a dealbreaker for me because I really don't want to fumble around with micro SD cards while I'm working on site.
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Hi, with the various options visible in the vertical bar on the left of the image below and after recalling a previously saved preset, in my TinySA Ultra with firmware v1.4-196 there is a problem with the spacing of the text of the various onscreen options that causes the date to go under the green icon representing the Sd card, as visible in this screenshot: This results in the date and time not being readable and, sometimes, when trying to press the green icon representing the Sd card, the screen for changing the date appears instead of saving the current image visible on the screen. The problem sometimes does not occur as visible in the picture below: I report this here in the hope that the problem can perhaps be resolved with the next firmware update. Bye
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Be sure to check the cleanliness of your ultimate 1152 MHz LO. Remember LO noise will also degrade receive performance in direct proportion to the amplitude of the noise pedestal. In addition, the width of the multiplied noise pedestal will be multiplied by the SQRT of the multiplication factor, in this cast: by 3.5. -50 dBc is pretty noisey for a quiet LO. I set my signal generator to 1152 MHz and took pictures with both the HP8568 and the TINY SA with identical measurement parameters (you can read those from the images). See the attached images. Interesting (especially for Eric) that they both show about -70 dBc to the noise pedestal. I'm impressed with the TINY SA performance in this respect! Virus-free.www.avg.com-- Dave - W?LEV
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I have created a Python Qt5 application to work with the TinySA Ultra that runs in Linux. https://github.com/g4ixt/QtTinySA Working Features: LNA on/off SPUR auto/off Theoretically unlimited points, but I have set the maximum to 15,400 for no particular reason. RBW control 4 different colour traces, all can be turned on/off and set to average, max hold or min hold Selectable averaging Amateur band frequency selection Start/stop frequency selection 4 markers. Each trace has 1 marker associated with it. Markers can be set to normal, delta, or one of the four largest peaks. The selected marker(s) can be set to sweep start frequency with a button, or can be draggged to any desired frequency. All standard pyqtgraph features, which are selectable by right-click on the graph display, including: Export as CSV, HDF5, Image file of various types, Matplotlib window, SVG 3D spectrum (very primitive) with measurements over time represented as a surface plot. Can be clicked/zoomed/dragged/rotated using the mouse.
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