tinySA Feature: Units Display
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Erik has included features in the tinySA that even more expensive spectrum analyzers sometimes fail to include. One of those features is an ample choice of display units. The following logarithmic display units are provided: Default dBm units. Optional dBmV units Optional dBuV units The following linear display units are provided: Optional Volts units Optional Watts units Most users will be happy with just the default dBm units but there are disciplines where the other display units are the standard. The conversions from dBm are easy but having the tinySA do them eliminates errors and allows screen captures to show the correct units. It took Erik some time to get the automatic scaling to work seamlessly between all the different units, and is a example of his goal of providing features in the tinySA not seen in other devices in its price class. - Herb
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New release: improved screen capture and better trigger status
New FW released: v1.0-39 New tinySA.exe release Changes: - Small change to increase the robustness of tinySA.exe during screen capturing. - Better status display of trigger status (ARMED/PAUSED) - Corrected a help text typo (IN to OUT -> HIGH to LOW)
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New example added to wiki on using triggering
I added a new example to the wiki to demonstrate the use of triggering to capture ISM transmissions https://tinysa.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.ISMTransmissions
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Is the first production run of TinySA sold out?
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Please update. Thank you.
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New FW release: DiSlord completed the 3D conversion
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Version v1.0-37 For updating see: https://tinysa.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.UpdatingTheFirmware Changes: - completed the 3D conversion with radio buttons and checkmarks (DiSlord) - Now 51,101, 145 and 201 scan points possible
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Firmware
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I was wondering if the firmware source is available, can't find it ?
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tinySA joins hugen's product line
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I posted the following on the NanoVNA groups.io: "hugen has released the tinySA spectrum analyzer at https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Hand-held-tiny-Spectrum-analyzer-TinySA_1600085564565.html . The tinySA joins hugen's stable of products targeted at radio amateurs, students and electronic enthusiasts. It fills the gap for NanoVNA owners who have been trying to use the vna as a spectrum analyzer or signal generator. The tinySA was developed in conjunction with Erik Kaashoek a long time member of this group and an outstanding designer/programmer. At $50, not including shipping and handling, its a no brainer for hobbyists looking to expand their measurement capability on a budget. You can find all the product details at: https://www.tinysa.org/wiki/ " I had the good fortune of receiving a beta version of the tinySA and it has definitely earned its place on my test bench as a sub GHZ spectrum analyzer, with its own display, and built-in rf generator. Because the tinySA's display is not as busy as the NanoVNA, the 2.8" diagonal dimension works out pretty well for me - and I wear glasses. If the 2.8" tinySA is successful enough for a 4" tinySA to be produced, then your purchase of the 2.8" tinySA will not be wasted because you can use it exclusively as a very capable signal generator. - Herb
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TinySA resolution filters
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Next to the performance of the first LO and the first mixer, the performance of the various resolution filters does have a huge impact on the performance of a spectrum analyzer. To provide some understanding of what the tinySA resolution filters can (not) do I added a page to the wiki: https://tinysa.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.ResolutionFilters
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Correction: tinySA Features
#features
{Correction was made to give proper credit to OneOfEleven} DisLord was part of the tinySA Beta testing program, so one of the features that made it into the tinySA UI is the very nice 3D user interface that was originated by OneOfEleven and merged into DiSlord's NanoVNA branch. The UI enhancements give a nice modern look and feel to the tinySA, and are definitely a value added feature. Those user's who have upgraded to the 3D UI on the NanoVNA can attest to its value. Special acknowledgement to both DiSlord and OneOfEleven. - Herb
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tinySA Features
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#features
Unfortunately all the screen captures and the video on the wiki are still the old UI.
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Locked
TinySA introduction video
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As the tinySA FW and HW are nearing completion I made a short introduction video that is available here
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Level sweep function added
The testers have been asking for some extra functionality and it was still possible to fit it into the available space. Here you see two functions in one picture. One tinySA is used as signal generator and does a power sweep from -10 to -60dBm in a sweep time set to 6 seconds. Level sweep can ramp up or ramp down. The second tinySA is set to zero span and a trigger level of -12dBm and also with a saweep time set to 6 seconds. There is still a bit of switching noise in the ramp.
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Hardware availability?
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Is it possible to purchase a TinySA now?. I realize that it could be preliminary versions, but I think that all traffic in the group is too much for a very reduced group of beta testers. Regards, Ignacio EB4APL -- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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1dB Comnpression Point
Measuring the 1dB compression point is a lot of work as you manually have to step through many signal levels to find the level where the detected signal is 1dB below the expected level. Using the internal step attenuator and the LINEARITY measurement in the MEASURE menu most of the manual step are automated. The green line in the picture below shows 9 measurements shown for each 1 dB step starting at 29dB attenuation. https://tinysa.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.CompressionPoint Using an external signal generator at any of the supported low input frequencies at a level above the expected compression point level (such as +10dBm) will allow a quick measurement of the linearity. As the green line shows little disturbances below where the compression starts it is safe to conclude the internal step attenuator is very linear.
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TinySA linearity
One of the beta testers did a very good job at measuring the power linearity of an uncalibrated tinySA. Uncalibrated implies the absolute level may be a couple of dB off but the relative steps should be accurate First the low input And the high input From these measurements that are a couple of conclusions. The 1dBc of the low input is possibly at or a bit above 0dBm The 1dBc of the high input is expected to be close to -10dBm The low input LPF is at -3dB around 300MHz and at -6dB at 350MHz. This will have to be compensated for. Below 1MHz the low input is having some problems. These possibly can be corrected by adjusting AGC and LNA Below 0.4MHz the phase noise limits the low end of the power measurement range The high input is flat +/- 1.5dB over the whole range The power level measurement is close to the official +/- 1dB overall linearity. Overall this measurement confirms the spec on the wiki. https://tinysa.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.Specification
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RFI Source Identification Signature Storage Application
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Greetings Erik, A common problem for radio amateurs is the proliferation of modern day RFI sources that cause significant interference particularly to the HF bands. IMHO a portable low cost spectrum analyzer that includes some specific features intended to support tracking down noise sources would be of significant interest for many hams. Often noise sources are related to the power line frequency. It has been well documented elsewhere that because there are often multiple A/C power related RFI sources around the home and within the local hydro grid that an ability to record the time domain signature of the most offending noise is helpful for identifying the most significant cause. Once a problem is located within one's home it can usually be corrected. If a power grid problem is pinpointed it has been experienced that usually the utility will repair it expediently. Spectrum analyzers with time domain signature waveform comparison capability are now used by many utility companies for locating RFI sources. I found it interesting that that the tinyVNA firmware already offers a zero span mode with time domain display capability. I wonder if the time domain display could be designed to lock on to a hydro buzz type of noise and store a few cycles? If this were implemented the offending RFI waveform signature could be compared to noise sources found in the field to help identify the source. Possibly a split screen display with the stored waveform shown within the top half and real time waveform in the bottom half would offer a convenient means for the user to compare signatures. I am interested in evaluating a tinyVNA for the purpose of tracking down RFI sources. Best Regards, Tom, VA7TA
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TinySA-saver updated
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For those using Linux Multiple segments is now working in tinySA-saver https://github.com/erikkaashoek/tinySA-saver The tinySA data is in the S21Gain (dB) graph. Suggest to remove all other displayed charts except S21 Gain Make sure you set the tinySA in high or low input mode before running tinySA-saver Screen capture works. See "manage"/"screenshot" Apart from making the data visible I did not do ANYTHING to make it robust
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New measurement example: Spur Free Dynamic Range
A new measurement example is added to demonstrate the dynamic range of the tinySA in measuring harmonics coming from a transmitter https://tinysa.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.DynamicRange
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Anybody been able to update firmware from Linux?
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Has anybody been able to update the firmware from Linux? I downloaded and installed the software from ST. I have not been able to get the GUI to run at all. I am able to connect from the commandline, but when I try to download the firmware to the tinySA, it tells me I must connect first. I am running Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon. Any help?
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Checking modulation
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#feature_request
How close to a carrier I can get? Many Hams, educators and me would like to see and check their modulators. That is, can I see what does spectrum of SSB with 1kHz modulation look like. Or 300Hz and closer.
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