As someone else noted, I¡¯m finding that plugging in stereo phones requires some fussing around to get audio in both ears. Could it be that the jack is mono? (I haven¡¯t opened it.) If so, I¡¯ll make an adapter.
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I believe that a Moderator can modify the Subject line of a thread to add a missing or incorrect hashtag. ?
If a member modifies a subject line in reply to a thread, like by adding ¡±...Problem Solved¡±, then it shows up as a second thread. ?
I usually use the merge function to merge it back into the correct thread.
Of course this requires Moderator(s) who are focused on the structure, as opposed necessarily to the content.
Larry?
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From Groups.io help page on using hashtags:
Applying hashtags to topics
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When you are creating a topic on the group website, you can apply existing hashtags by selecting the hashtags from the Add Tags list that appears below the subject line on the NewTopic page. Be aware that some groups require every topic to include at least one hashtag (which will be stated on the New Topic page).
When you are writing an email message to send to the group, you can simply enter hashtags in the subject line. If a hashtag you enter in the subject line does not already exist in the group, it is created (if the group allows?members to create new hashtags). Be aware that some groups require every topic to include at least one hashtag. If you email a new topic to a group that requires hashtags but do not include any hashtags on the email¡¯s subject line, the system returns the message to you with a delivery failure notification that contains the statement ¡°Messages to this group require at least one hashtag to be specified in the subject.¡± You must resend your message and include at least one of the required hashtags on the subject line. You can find out what hashtags are available by logging in to Groups.io?and checking the group¡¯s website. See Viewing the hashtags used in a group.
Note:?
- Hashtags take effect only if they are placed on the first message in a topic, and they will be applied to all messages in the topic.
- It is possible for you to add a hashtag to an emailed reply by editing the subject line, but this addition has no effect. The hashtag will be included in the reply¡¯s subject line for members receiving messages through email, but it will not be included in the subject line of the archived message or of any other messages within the topic.
- Some hashtags might be reserved for moderator use only.
The hashtag limit is five per topic. (The system allows message subject lines to contain more than five hashtags, but only the first five hashtags are saved in the message archive.
As I noted in my previous message there are already hashtags for #tinysay and #ultra. And as others have noted this will be imperfect since many won't know or will forget to use them. But then the same can be said when a separate group is created or for that matter any approach you take.? Perfection doesn't exist here.
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Spliting into groups doesn't make sense to me.
Erik has created hashtags for #tinysa and #ultra and it makes sense to try to use those to identify relavence of messages. Groups.io allows "muting" tags so that people can filter the messages they see.
I say "try" to use hashtags because I suspect that many aren't even aware of the concept. But then I expect that the same would be true if an attempted was made to identify messages with simple word tags.
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On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 01:08 PM, W0LEV wrote:
And the $80 / month = $960 / year is a huge discouragement for any new groups!
Anything and everything these days to make a buck on the part of Google.
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Google?
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:53 PM David J Taylor via <david-taylor= [email protected]> wrote: On 05/12/2022 17:43, Mike C. wrote:
> David,
>
> A little more detail, if you please, 'why aren't you in favor'? Please explain.
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> Mike C. Sand Mtn GA
Mike,
It's as Gary says:? "As long as the TinySA and TinySA Ultra remain basically
the same I see no need to artificially separate the discussions about the two.".
Splitting discussions can make things more difficult to find - I think we see
that - at least to a degree - in the multiple "nanoVNA" groups.? Perhaps the
concept of "spectrum analyser" is more familiar to folk with modern equipment
already incorporating spectra and waterfalls.? Erik's videos help a lot, too.
The cost doesn't justify the gain.
Cheers,
David
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SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv
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Yes, Google Groups is it.? I need to slow down and engage the grey matter before hitting the keyboard.
Dave - W?LEV
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 9:22 PM Larry McElhiney via <lmcelhiney= [email protected]> wrote: Two things:
-The $80/month estimate is based on a group with the membership the size of this group.? A smaller group would pay less.
- has no relationship with Google.? You might be thinking of Google Groups.
Larry
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Yes, there is a Max Hold. ?It is under Trace>CalcOff>MaxHold
There is also the ability to ¡°draw¡± limit lines for a test. ?Example: ?The limit lines shown on Self Test.
Larry
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Two things:
-The $80/month estimate is based on a group with the membership the size of this group. ?A smaller group would pay less.
-groups.io has no relationship with Google. ?You might be thinking of Google Groups.
Larry
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Bingo!? That works.? Thanks?
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DC Decouple the SA from the prescribed test point and assure the level of injected signal is well below the max of the SA input.? That will trace the BPF shape as the injected signal is swept through the BPF.? I don't have one, yet, but if it has a max hold, that would be appropriate as you sweep the injected signal.
The term "persistence" wrt a spectrum analyzer goes??? W A Y??? back to the "original" HP141 with its "variable persistence".? Yes, I used one many times.....
Dave - W?LEV
I'm trying to adjust 4 inductors in a Kenwood ts 440.? The step requires a certain shape of waveform.? How do you make the tiny draw a wave shape??
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And the $80 / month = $960 / year is a huge discouragement for any new groups! Anything and everything these days to make a buck on the part of Google.
Dave - W?LEV
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:53 PM David J Taylor via <david-taylor= [email protected]> wrote: On 05/12/2022 17:43, Mike C. wrote:
> David,
>
> A little more detail, if you please, 'why aren't you in favor'? Please explain.
>
> Mike C. Sand Mtn GA
Mike,
It's as Gary says:? "As long as the TinySA and TinySA Ultra remain basically
the same I see no need to artificially separate the discussions about the two.".
Splitting discussions can make things more difficult to find - I think we see
that - at least to a degree - in the multiple "nanoVNA" groups.? Perhaps the
concept of "spectrum analyser" is more familiar to folk with modern equipment
already incorporating spectra and waterfalls.? Erik's videos help a lot, too.
The cost doesn't justify the gain.
Cheers,
David
--
SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv
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I'm trying to adjust 4 inductors in a Kenwood ts 440.? The step requires a certain shape of waveform.? How do you make the tiny draw a wave shape??
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Re: My Ultra just has arrived!
Mine arrived from R&L on Friday. The display seems to be in perfect alignment. Haven't done much with the Ultra yet, but I'm looking forward to running it through its paces.
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On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:12 AM, Larry McElhiney wrote:
I believe that the focus will probably be to meld the code into a single FW so that it will work appropriately on both models. ?This seems the direction from the Wiki descriptions.
Is already done. ? --
For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/
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I believe that the focus will probably be to meld the code into a single FW so that it will work appropriately on both models. ?This seems the direction from the Wiki descriptions.
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Virtually ANY addition to the Subject line is fraught with potential errors. ?groups.io allows one to interact using many platforms, email and webpage and several different message viewing and responding methods (Digest, individual, etc.). ?Many people change the Subject line to meet their own needs. ?Unfortunately, this results in a NEW thread being created, so message threading forks to another branch. ?If some folks add a word like Ultra in the Subject line as an identifier and not everyone follows that style, you end up as we are now.
Some thoughts left to simmer¡
Take care,
Larry
AC9OX?
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On 05/12/2022 17:43, Mike C. wrote: David,
A little more detail, if you please, 'why aren't you in favor'? Please explain.
Mike C. Sand Mtn GA Mike, It's as Gary says: "As long as the TinySA and TinySA Ultra remain basically the same I see no need to artificially separate the discussions about the two.". Splitting discussions can make things more difficult to find - I think we see that - at least to a degree - in the multiple "nanoVNA" groups. Perhaps the concept of "spectrum analyser" is more familiar to folk with modern equipment already incorporating spectra and waterfalls. Erik's videos help a lot, too. The cost doesn't justify the gain. Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: Email: david-taylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv
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Once you understand the workings of a vector network analyzer, going from one model to another, even the "professinal" models ($$$$), this is no longer an issue.? Spend the time to learn the VNA, and you won't have that problem.?
Dave - W?LEV
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 6:40 PM Gary - W6GVS < gvsmith5@...> wrote:
I would like to add a thought to this discussion.? I'm also own a
NanoVNA-F.? I've owned it for two or three years.? I also
joined the nanovna users and nanovna-f reflectors.? The
nanovna users group is primarily for the H-series models with some
discussion of some of the other iterations not usually including the -F
model.? I've read all of the traffic on the two reflectors and I
have a difficult time separating what works on one model and not on the
other, etc.? I keep the two groups in separate mailboxes in my
e-mail client.? But I still get thoroughly confused by separate
discussions of which firmware and hardware and adjunct software works
with which model.? I have to go into each mailbox to find a answer
to any questions I have.? As long as the TinySA and TinySA Ultra
remain basically the same I see no need to artificially separate the
discussions about the two.
73,
Gary - W6GVS
At 10:08 PM 12/4/2022, you wrote:
Hey Guys,
Since the tinySA and Ultra are two very different animals,
has anyone kicked the can down the road to see if there is any interest
in a separate "Ultra" group? (just thinking, don't shoot the
messenger)
Mike C. Sand Mtn GA
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Why not just put "Ultra" somewhere in the subject line, so in an instant everyone will know which device the email is about? If it's not there, then everyone knows you are referring to the original. Easy-Peezy!
David AD4TJ
On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 12:44:11 PM EST, Mike C. <mg@...> wrote:
David,
A little more detail, if you please, 'why aren't
you in favor'? Please explain.
Mike C. Sand Mtn GA
On 12/5/2022 3:37 AM, David J Taylor
via groups.io wrote:
On
05/12/2022 04:44, Larry McElhiney via groups.io wrote:
Currently new groups.io groups are
prohibitively expense once they go past to Free (100 member)
level.
This TinySA group would cost around $80/month if new.
- Is this group grandfathered in - "Legacy Enabled"?
- If so, can you create sub-groups free of charge?
- Even if, would the group members wish that?
?? I would not be in favour.
Just pondering as I've had this issue in another group...
Cheers,
David
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I would like to add a thought to this discussion.? I'm also own a
NanoVNA-F.? I've owned it for two or three years.? I also
joined the nanovna users and nanovna-f group.io reflectors.? The
nanovna users group is primarily for the H-series models with some
discussion of some of the other iterations not usually including the -F
model.? I've read all of the traffic on the two reflectors and I
have a difficult time separating what works on one model and not on the
other, etc.? I keep the two groups in separate mailboxes in my
e-mail client.? But I still get thoroughly confused by separate
discussions of which firmware and hardware and adjunct software works
with which model.? I have to go into each mailbox to find a answer
to any questions I have.? As long as the TinySA and TinySA Ultra
remain basically the same I see no need to artificially separate the
discussions about the two.
73,
Gary - W6GVS
At 10:08 PM 12/4/2022, you wrote:
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Hey Guys,
Since the tinySA and Ultra are two very different animals,
has anyone kicked the can down the road to see if there is any interest
in a separate "Ultra" group? (just thinking, don't shoot the
messenger)
Mike C. Sand Mtn GA
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Ditto.
On 12/5/2022 11:47 AM, N2MS wrote:
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I'd rather keep it the way it is. Like me a good number of members have the tinysa and intend to get the ultra in the future.
We can read the messages in one group to see updates and information.
Mike N2MS
On 12/05/2022 4:35 AM Erik Kaashoek <erik@...> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:37 AM, David J Taylor wrote:
- If so, can you create sub-groups free of charge?
Its not possible to create sub groups free of charge
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Hey Bill,
Yeah, works for me, but can we..... (just kidding)
Mike C. Sand Mtn GA
On 12/5/2022 10:00 AM, Bill Cromwell
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In some
groups they use the # sign in the subject to indicate which
devices/versions the message is for. #ultra for example. More than
a few list members don't understand or use those just as some
would post to the wrong group or thread even if there is a
different group. We will have to just muddle a long the best we
can.
73,
Bill KU8H
bark less - wag more
On 12/5/22 04:40, David J Taylor via groups.io wrote:
On 05/12/2022 09:35, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
Its not possible to create sub groups
free of charge
That settles that discussion, then!
David
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Larry McElhiney
David J Taylor
Mike C.