#7967

Richard at Lionheart have advised me that he has received the quotation from the factory for the 14mm locomotive wheel sets, which has an MOQ of 100 sets. Unfortunately he considers that this figure to be too high, together with the complicated and difficult assembly, so they shall not be offering this conversion.

For background I did I trial conversion for Richard of the standard wheels he supplied with 14mm axles and although the back-to-back was correct the flanges were quite fat so the wheels came out over gauge. Hence the need for special wheels with finer flanges.

I don't know if this decision can be changed with a firm commitment of numbers.

Regards
John

#7968

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John?

I had heard rumours of this and it is very disappointing as they were advertised as the first ready to run 7mm scale 14mm gauge locomotives. ?I have an order placed for one, surely UK retailers could advise how many orders have been placed.

Is this an opportunity for someone enterprising to offer a conversion kit and/or fitting service - I for one would definitely be interested.

Regards

Cliff

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On 28 Feb 2023, at 11:27, John C via groups.io <jclutterbuck2001@...> wrote:

Richard at Lionheart have advised me that he has received the quotation from the factory for the 14mm locomotive wheel sets, which has an MOQ of 100 sets. Unfortunately he considers that this figure to be too high, together with the complicated and difficult assembly, so they shall not be offering this conversion.

For background I did I trial conversion for Richard of the standard wheels he supplied with 14mm axles and although the back-to-back was correct the flanges were quite fat so the wheels came out over gauge. Hence the need for special wheels with finer flanges.

I don't know if this decision can be changed with a firm commitment of numbers.

Regards
John

#7969

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 03:35 AM, Cliff Stone wrote:

Is this an opportunity for someone enterprising to offer a conversion kit and/or fitting service - I for one would definitely be interested.

I have had the same information from Richard and have started a dialogue with him to that end. I fear it may be prohibitively expensive to do as a commercial operation along with being risky. As for the dealers giving feedback on numbers that probaly isnt going to work given there has been no requirement to state preference in the ordering process.

Once again I think the fact has to be faced that 014 is a niche beyond what is commercial. I am aware of another development in the offing that whilst ideal for it makes no provision for 014. Personally, producing the 014 Ready to Plonk track has been a loss maker with minimal demand and not a hope of recouping the development or production time.

Paul Martin. EDM Models

#7970

Further to the above I am going to chip in that speculation and protestations that "they" and "someone" should do something about itreally don't help when I am trying to be the "They" and the "Someone". I too got an e-mail from Richard Webster but instead of blabbing to the 014 very small world I set about trying to do something about it and my heart sank when I saw it posted on here before i could even hit send on my reply to Richard.

#7972

Why don't you contact David at Slater's, they have the loco wheels for both 16.5mm and 14mm gauge the axles have a thread so the wheels screw onto the axles and the axles have a square boss on the end to fit the cranks, they're available with 9 and 10 spoke versions 2'9" dia.

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Date 28/02/2023 10:09:00 PM

Subject Re: [o14] Lionheart L&B Manning Wardle

Further to the above I am going to chip in that speculation and protestations that "they" and "someone" should do something about itreally don't help when I am trying to be the "They" and the "Someone". I too got an e-mail from Richard Webster but instead of blabbing to the 014 very small world I set about trying to do something about it and my heart sank when I saw it posted on here before i could even hit send on my reply to Richard.

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#7973

Two reasons spring immediately to mind….

1. ?We’re working with the manufacturer to create a solution
2. ?It’s a split frame chassis that would be shorted by the Slaters axle

#7974

In this day and age all loco's and rollingstock should be designed for the chassis to be completely insulated from any electrical contact, which makes it more DCC friendly as well as for dead rail or battery powered operation, the days of using the chassis or body as part of the electrical circuit are long gone around the rest of the world, you fella's in the UK seem to want to stay living back in the last century.

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Date 1/03/2023 10:21:09 AM

Subject Re: [o14] Lionheart L&B Manning Wardle

Two reasons spring immediately to mind….

1. ?We’re working with the manufacturer to create a solution
2. ?It’s a split frame chassis that would be shorted by the Slaters axle

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#7975

In this day and age all loco's and rollingstock should be designed for the chassis to be completely insulated from any electrical contact, which makes it more DCC friendly as well as for dead rail or battery powered operation, the days of using the chassis or body as part of the electrical circuit are long gone around the rest of the world, you fella's in the UK seem to want to stay living back in the last century.Brian, please let us know what answer you get when you tell Richard at Lionheart that he is wrong and doesn’t know what he’s doing! It’ll be an interesting read.

 Suspect that it’s a bit late in the design process to change this, though you never know, they might change their ways once they hear from someone who appears to have superior knowledge to the people who’s job it is to design these things for a living. 

Andrew