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Re: HF packet data rates

 

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Hi Michael

See attached as an example of a mfj1270b manual.

There are dip switches on the rear panel that control the serial port speed and the radio speed….. should be covered in the manual,if not i have a couple of snips from the manual with tables of the switch settings.

B

On Dec 19, 2024, at 4:46?PM, Michael Boudreaux VE3XZ via groups.io <vk3xz@...> wrote:

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Hi Bob,
I have a few MFJ 1270 units but do not know how to use them for the Network 105. Is?
There a guide or Youtube Video for guidance Please? 73 Mike vk4sy
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Re: HF packet data rates

 

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Let me take a look, i usually justgoogle for an mfj2270b manual?

Bob

On Dec 19, 2024, at 4:46?PM, Michael Boudreaux VE3XZ via groups.io <vk3xz@...> wrote:

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Hi Bob,
I have a few MFJ 1270 units but do not know how to use them for the Network 105. Is?
There a guide or Youtube Video for guidance Please? 73 Mike vk4sy


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hi Bob,
I have a few MFJ 1270 units but do not know how to use them for the Network 105. Is?
There a guide or Youtube Video for guidance Please? 73 Mike vk4sy


1200B

 

Yes Steve

?What you mentioned appears to be correct when looking at the U.S. band plan.

I am operational and beaconing on 28.135 USB at least today and maybe tomorrow, in case there be any interest in trying it.? I may be off air for intermittent periods of time while doing some last? minute shopping.

73/warren
WB7ECU

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Re: 1200B Packet

 

I took the info from the IRU Region 2 bandplan... sorry - should have checked ARRL instead.
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Let me flip the question around then, is there any part in the 10m Band that allows FM and Data?
If not then let's stick to SSB and the frequency mentioned in the beginning.
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Marcel


Re: 1200B Packet

 

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 05:44 PM, Marcel, VA3UKW wrote:
We could also go higher and try FM? 29200-29300 6000 All modes ACDS
Sadly we cannot in the US. If I'm not mistaken, we are limited to 28.0 to 28.3 for data on 10m. Above that is phone and image only.
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But I would love to try 2400 baud sometime, too. :)
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Steve K4RVA


Re: 1200B Packet

 

Do me? a favor and let me know when and on what frequency everybody is going to do this so I can get the word out on other packet groups.
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Maybe we can do a monthly QSO party on a specific (or rotating) date time.
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73 de Chris (moderator)
ww2bsa.org
"Packet Radio Nut"?

On 12/18/2024 7:44 PM EST Marcel, VA3UKW via groups.io <marcel@...> wrote:
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no objection, 28.135 sounds fine. We could also go higher and try FM??
29200-29300 6000 All modes ACDS?
I remember playing with 10m FM with VP9NO - I believe we even got a connection with 2400 baud going for a while.
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73
Marcel


Re: 1200B Packet

 

no objection, 28.135 sounds fine. We could also go higher and try FM??
29200-29300 6000 All modes ACDS?
I remember playing with 10m FM with VP9NO - I believe we even got a connection with 2400 baud going for a while.
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73
Marcel


Re: 1200B Packet

 

I'm in! :)
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Just let me know the frequency and whether LSB or USB. I think last time we used 28.135 LSB (dial frequency) because it fell within the portion of the band which allows for automated stations, 28.120–28.189 MHz in the US.
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So maybe 28.135 MHz LSB + 1700 Hz (28133.3 center frequency)?
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Does that work for you in Canada, Marcel?
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Steve K4RVA


10m 1200b

 

Hi Marcel

If I recall I think we congregated up around 28.135USB?

I used one of the SCS Trackers in 1200B mode for that, but not long after, I broke one of the male pins on the 6pin din connector, while trying to plug it in back of the FT991A upside down. The location to plug those in in my opinion is less than ideal. It has been a while since I terminated one of those DIN connectors, and they are a bit of a chore to do, so I'll try and get a new male din connector soldered in. It may be after Christmas though.

73/warren
WB7ECU

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Re: 1200B Packet

 

I wouldn't mind firing up packet and playing some more with 1200baud on 10m or other bands.
Anyone else interested?
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73
Marcel


1200B Packet

 

Last year we did a couple days of? experiments on 10m. I managed to leave a? msg into VA3UKW-1 BBS, as well as another state side contact. We? used USB 1200B. It was my thought that because of 1200 B's faster rate, we could slip a few packets between the fading, and that seemed to be the case.

73/warren
WB7ECU
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Re: HF packet data rates

 

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Thanks for the reply i will take a look….. right now i am using a hw tnc because i have a stack of mfj1270’s
Bob


On Dec 18, 2024, at 3:28?PM, VP9NO Dom via groups.io <sunday.weaver@...> wrote:

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Whoops, I meant Bob.
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See my prior post, Chris and I actually experimented with this, and it's just a matter of adoption with people agreeing on dual Soundmodem (Windows folks) decoders, and/or the best mode in QTSoundModem that's compatible with both of us 300+600 afsk.?


Re: HF packet data rates

 

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Thanks Chris

B

On Dec 18, 2024, at 3:16?PM, Chris Lance WW2BSA <Ww2bsa@...> wrote:

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Welcome to HF Packet, Bob. Network105 traditionally uses 300 baud AX.25, however, due to the limitations being lifted there have been members here experimenting successfully with 600 baud and higher.
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I'm sure after reading your post, they'll come out to comment. :-)
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73 de Chris (moderator)
"Packet Radio Nut"
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On 12/18/2024 3:00 PM EST Bob-va3rjs via groups.io <va3rjs@...> wrote:
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New here, so sorry if this is a rehash……. I have been running packet on U/HHF for a long time so typically 1200 or 9600 rate, but i am trying to extend my node reach and looking at HF, ?typically HF was limited to 300 baud but i was wondering if this network was still using 300 on HF or if you have moved up to 1200?

thanks
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bob
va3rjs


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Whoops, I meant Bob.
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See my prior post, Chris and I actually experimented with this, and it's just a matter of adoption with people agreeing on dual Soundmodem (Windows folks) decoders, and/or the best mode in QTSoundModem that's compatible with both of us 300+600 afsk.?


Re: HF packet data rates

 

Hiya Chris,
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I actually re-started this discussion just about a year ago :)
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Sadly, due to hurricanes, I've been off-air (rip G5RV) for the past 6 months
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and this recap of mine specifically,
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The conclusion I and some other Canadian+USA (north-East coast) Hams is that if everyone keeps an recently updated Soundmodem around and enabled a few options (FX25 at a minimum) then 600Baud on the 2nd modem / 'B' slot can work fine. You can also tell various terminal software (EasyTerm) to connect by Port A (300 Baud, normal offset+freq) or Port B (600 baud). It's a bit tricky, but you can config them to do beaconing sequentially without interruptions too
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My decoded packet-

1:Fm VP9NO To BEACON <UI C? pid=F0 Len=51>[03:27:26R][---+-][AX25 1690]
VP9NO(-1 MBox) FM72 45W FT991A G5RV & 600bd @1225cf
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Note, that people must ensure (especially with trying 600/1200 baud) that their center frequencies and radios are decently calibrated so we don't overstep the main Network105 (14.105 LSB) frequency :)
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Re: HF packet data rates

 

Welcome to HF Packet, Bob. Network105 traditionally uses 300 baud AX.25, however, due to the limitations being lifted there have been members here experimenting successfully with 600 baud and higher.
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I'm sure after reading your post, they'll come out to comment. :-)
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73 de Chris (moderator)
"Packet Radio Nut"
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On 12/18/2024 3:00 PM EST Bob-va3rjs via groups.io <va3rjs@...> wrote:
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New here, so sorry if this is a rehash……. I have been running packet on U/HHF for a long time so typically 1200 or 9600 rate, but i am trying to extend my node reach and looking at HF, ?typically HF was limited to 300 baud but i was wondering if this network was still using 300 on HF or if you have moved up to 1200?

thanks
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bob
va3rjs


HF packet data rates

 

New here, so sorry if this is a rehash……. I have been running packet on U/HHF for a long time so typically 1200 or 9600 rate, but i am trying to extend my node reach and looking at HF, ?typically HF was limited to 300 baud but i was wondering if this network was still using 300 on HF or if you have moved up to 1200?

thanks
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bob
va3rjs


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Re: Packet - what do you consider a "logable" contact?

 

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Those that do not have the time to hang onto the mike for a contact miss out on the hobby’s intent and purpose – human contact.

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And when disasters strike, the human element becomes paramount.

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I find it ironic for police and miliary purposes despite all of the digital information, we get the job and mission done faster during its execution with the human voice.

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Instant gratification – the difference between the “busy person” and the hunter, explorer and adventurer.

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If life and in my case, engineering was so simple at the push of a mouse button, then innovation would die and we would still be driving horses around.

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I find FT8 a bore requiring no skill as in other modes where the computer is just gathering data for human processing purposes.

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As in a hobby that Amateur Radio is, time to do so means one is not too busy in my opinion.

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I still find in military SIGINT, when we dropped the HUMINT and human operator out of the process, we missed several signals and/or their deadly purpose.

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The lessons learned from the Israeli slaughter was too much Internet and automation vice the human operator.

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In my Naval Aviation Officer days, all of the neat toys never replaced the human operator in the loop … too much data at times and having to sort out what is as important was solved by turning off these toys that some engineer thought would help, but never really asked us who prosecuted the attacks.

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The more we digitalize what we do in amateur radio, the less human we all become and grow as insensitive to the human being needs as we see now across the globe as we have become a ID or a number rather than a name and a voice behind it, now all so impersonable.

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W4JDY

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Christopher Molnar KO4YAW via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 2:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [network105] Packet - what do you consider a "logable" contact?

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Thanks all!

I think this is where we begin to loose interest by the "younger" generations. I do not see anywhere in the definition and purpose of amateur radio that we continue to do things the same way as years before. This includes only accepting person to person contact. Most of us just do not have time to hang around mike's and keyboard's anymore waiting for that perfect contact.

Why is a QSO not acceptable if I connect to a packet system via RF, leave a message on that system for a valid user of that system, and then get a return message (or ACK that the message was received)? This is totally via radio, and the other station can reply to that message when they desire.

I understand digipeating being borderline, but message drop off and retrieval later? I do not think that is cheating as long as it uses radio.

Thanks all for your opinions, I really do appreciate and value, even if I do not totally agree.

de Chris
KO4YAW


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