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Re: Packet - what do you consider a "logable" contact?


 

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Those that do not have the time to hang onto the mike for a contact miss out on the hobby¡¯s intent and purpose ¨C human contact.

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And when disasters strike, the human element becomes paramount.

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I find it ironic for police and miliary purposes despite all of the digital information, we get the job and mission done faster during its execution with the human voice.

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Instant gratification ¨C the difference between the ¡°busy person¡± and the hunter, explorer and adventurer.

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If life and in my case, engineering was so simple at the push of a mouse button, then innovation would die and we would still be driving horses around.

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I find FT8 a bore requiring no skill as in other modes where the computer is just gathering data for human processing purposes.

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As in a hobby that Amateur Radio is, time to do so means one is not too busy in my opinion.

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I still find in military SIGINT, when we dropped the HUMINT and human operator out of the process, we missed several signals and/or their deadly purpose.

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The lessons learned from the Israeli slaughter was too much Internet and automation vice the human operator.

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In my Naval Aviation Officer days, all of the neat toys never replaced the human operator in the loop ¡­ too much data at times and having to sort out what is as important was solved by turning off these toys that some engineer thought would help, but never really asked us who prosecuted the attacks.

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The more we digitalize what we do in amateur radio, the less human we all become and grow as insensitive to the human being needs as we see now across the globe as we have become a ID or a number rather than a name and a voice behind it, now all so impersonable.

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W4JDY

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Christopher Molnar KO4YAW via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 2:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [network105] Packet - what do you consider a "logable" contact?

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Thanks all!

I think this is where we begin to loose interest by the "younger" generations. I do not see anywhere in the definition and purpose of amateur radio that we continue to do things the same way as years before. This includes only accepting person to person contact. Most of us just do not have time to hang around mike's and keyboard's anymore waiting for that perfect contact.

Why is a QSO not acceptable if I connect to a packet system via RF, leave a message on that system for a valid user of that system, and then get a return message (or ACK that the message was received)? This is totally via radio, and the other station can reply to that message when they desire.

I understand digipeating being borderline, but message drop off and retrieval later? I do not think that is cheating as long as it uses radio.

Thanks all for your opinions, I really do appreciate and value, even if I do not totally agree.

de Chris
KO4YAW


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