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Welcome to all NETWORK 105 packeteers!
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Finally found a little time to get this group updated a little. Check out the nice title picture :) Here's the text which Burt used to send out to node stations on the network. I've updated it a little but kept it as original as possible. "Network 105" is a group of packet ham radio operators who enjoy chatting over the hf 20 meter band on 14.105 MHz. Most "conversations" are point-to-point, that is, one ham "talking" to another. However, at times, there can be groups of operators communicating together on a converse channel, a place where multi-chats may take place! The impetus for all this activity was due primarily to Burt Amero, VE1AMA (SK), who was the founder and major trustee of the network. Over the years, his tireless effort has made the 105 network a very vibrant and interesting place to "visit." To find out more, please consider joining our internet forum at /g/network105.net Be sure to stop by, and expand your view of Amateur Radio! The following paragraphs, mostly in his own words as published over the air and disseminated to most major nodes, describe Burt's philosophy and operational guidelines ... Hello and welcome to "NETWORK 105". The network is made up of hams who use their tncs' as KA-Nodes, NETROM, Netnode, PK-nodes and NOS TCP/IP nodes, or any multiported nodes providing point to point or cross over to vhf from hf, and from hf to vhf capability. "NETWORK 105" has been in operation since June 11, 1986 and all stations are here voluntarily, providing help, encouragement, keeping folks in contact and also a base for further experimentation on hf packet. I encourage you to use the system, and any suggestions you may have, please leave at my PBBS. We are in the midst of expanding, and are looking for stations in the West and Midwest both Canada and USA. Also looking for European Stations. Looking forward to hearing from you. Please support "NETWORK 105", by helping others who are new to the network. Operational Guidelines: Please use the following SSID convention in your beacon texts... -1 for PBBS -2 for GATE -7 for KA-NODE, NOSnode, NETROM, K-Net, NOSnode, all nodes. generic PBBS term for any built-in-the-tnc mail systems. terms : JNOS or TNOS TCP/IP type stations NOS = Net Operating System. AMPRNet - AMateur Packet Radio on the interNet) stations that have RF as well as Internet wormhole connections. LAN - Local Area Network. NetRom - Original stand alone node.. (chip in a tnc). K-Net - Kantronic's NETROM-like node. NOS node - (eg: N8DA-7, Software NETROM type node). We have found over the years paclen 60, maxframe 1, frack 5 work best on hf. If you run a coss-vhf port recommended settings are paclen 128, maxframe 1, frack 6. Beacons should be sent no faster than every 20 minutes and the first line should conform as closely as possible to the format "Network 105: VE1AMA/R VE1AMA-1/B VEAMA-7/N FN75" Please include your Maidenhead locator. This is a very useful piece of information for operators with antenna rotor control or for calculating distances. If you want good performance, please DO NOT DIGIPEAT A CONNECTION; it is much better to connect to a node - and then use that node to connect to the station you want. You will only spend 90% of the time retrying and getting RNR and REJ frames if you digipeat the connection. Also PLEASE use CALLSIGNS, and NOT ALIASES. Let's keep it HAM RADIO. No "HANDLE" type calls please, as they can be duplicated, while only you have your own call. At one time we had two with the same "handle" for a node call, it really messed up the frequency with FRMR, errors. The move is to make the -7 indicate a multiported node whether it is a KA-Node, NOS, NETROM, K-Net, any node that is multi-ported. Users will be able to figure it out after exploring it a bit. *** There are no full server BBS to BBS forwarding systems on the network, or at least we hope there are not. Please support and enjoy the network. It can help you get where you want quite efficiently. Those stations that wish to run one of the various BBS systems as a terminal program, no problem, but please no BBS to BBS forwarding, and no full node list broadcasts. TCP/IP stations wishing to join the network, again no problem but please no file forwarding as it would choke the system. TCP/IP is a very powerful system, and for the network to be able to get to know and use it, is a good idea, and you are most welcome here. Please no Winlink, APRS or DX-Cluster. Use 10.151 or 14.103 for APRS, and other frequencies like 14.097, 099, 101, 107, 109, 111 for BBS, DX-Cluster,... thanks. If you have any ideas or suggestions to make the network more enjoyable and efficient, please post them to our internet forum at /g/network105 All the best. 73... Burt & Phyllis "NETWORK 105" Founder/Co-ordinator (1986) Keeping packet alive On "NETWORK 105" Packet is a sharing mode It shares info/data,... and it shares the frequency. In memory of Bernard Joseph "Burt" Amero, VE1AMA 1942-2010
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Kam Plus has two different Btexts? Status Checks?
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I've just set up my previously owned KAM Plus for HF and VHF operation, having disconnected my SignaLink with EasyTerm and SoundModem for HF, and PK232 for VHF. I think the KAM Plus is properly operating but I'm still learning its parameters. Right now I have an earlier version of my Btext on VHF and a newer version on HF. I don't see any way to correct this or set up the same or different Btexts for the different modes. Any suggestions/ Also, if anyone sees my signals or connects to me and notices any non-standard operation, please let me know. Thanks and 73, Daniel N0BN
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Need Clarification: Kantronics ADDNODE command
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Hello Group, I understand that the ADDNODE command is used to add a new destination node or to modify and existing destination node in one's node table. However, I'm hoping someone could clarify the syntax as well as the meaning of "destination" and "neighbor." ADDNODE [alias:]call port neighbor [via digi 1[,digi2]] quality [obscnt] Is the "alias:call" the parameter for my own node? Neighbor, I would assume would be the "other guy's" node - let's call it W6GUY - that is within my RF range. But if W6GUY was out of my range, I could still list him in my nodes table as long as I had a station in between us to Digi, right? Port, I would assume is always 1 on a KPC-3+ unless I'm using a 9612 in which case the high speed 15 pin connector port would be port 2, right? So, for example, would this be right for my neighbor W2AH? ADDNODE 440NOD:WW2BSA-5 1 W2AH-7 70 and this example if there was a digi? ADDNODE 440NOD:WW2BSA-5 1 W2AH-7 W2LV-2 70 Tnx es 73 de Chris WW2BSA
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Ham Rig For Sale.
Hello Everyone, Am selling the below ham radio for a Silent key (AL0U) who has passed away. The rig are in excellent working condition and comes with accessories and original boxes. Kenwood TS-890, Kenwood SP-890 Speaker....Asking $2,650 shipped Icom IC-705 & AH-705 Tuner w/extras....Asking $1,300 shipped Icom IC-7610.....Asking $2,550 plus shipping You can email me if you're interested in buying. Email: al5t.hamrig@... I'm also good on QRZ.COM Am located in Alaska Thanks AL5T Robert 73's
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New to HF packet
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Hello, I am using KAM XL for VHF and HF, VHF setup was easy but I cant figure out that frequency I have to set my radio to for 14.105, I am using Yaesu 891, mode set to D-LSB. Audio, PTT all ok, I just think I am off freq. to receive packets. Maybe someone can help me with it, thank you Rosti, KC3FQF
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Jamming???
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New to Network 105¡. On 14.105 sometimes get some really interesting sounding signal drowning out packets. Is this another mode/station stepping on the network or shenanigans? WB7PZZ Anthony DM33wo
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Reconfiguring for HF and VHF packet, telnet, Winlink RMS, etc.
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I'm trying to figure out how to expand my packet/digital system and also make it more resilient. I'm totally confused with all the options, and I would really prefer to not have to learn and struggle with a lot of new protocols. I have searched prior messages but didn't find anything that answered my questions. If there is one or more, please let me know. I don't like asking questions when the answers are already out there somewhere. I have had my 145.050 packet station running for many years using my AEA PK232M. My radio is a Kenwood TH-G71 with a 70 watt amplifier. My antenna is an Arrow J-pole up perhaps 30 feet. It may be relevant that I have another similar Arrow J-pole connected to the VHF port of the Yaesu FT857 mentioned below. I also have a spare Yaesu FT-2900R, currently used for FM voice but which could be used for packet. In the last few months, I have added an HF station on 14105 LSB using my Yaesu FT857, and SoundModem and EasyTerm with a SignaLink. My antenna is an NVIS Chameleon Emcomm II up about 10 feet. My computer is an Evolve III Maestro Windows 10 laptop which operates on 12 VDC ($79.99 at Microcenter). When I'm away from home I disconnect the internet and pause Windows updates. The laptop is fairly new, and the built-in battery works as a temporary UPS, and I have another UPS as backup for the radios, TNC and SignaLink. My station is in a somewhat remote location, but I have reliable RF access to several Denver Front Range BBS, digipeaters/nodes and Winlink RMS gateways. I have another AEA PK232M, and one each of a KPC3+, KPC3 and Kantronics PC9612 Plus, either as backups or to integrate as part of an upgrade expansion. My budget and computer skills are somewhat limited although not non-existent! 1) It seems to me a hardware TNC system is more resilient than a soundcard system, and because of that, I'm considering using the PK232M for HF, and the KPC3+ for VHF. I believe keeping the laptop running poses an additional vulnerability. 2) It would be great to have a port between the now totally independent stations: HF-VHF, and VHF-HF. 3) It would be great to have a telnet port. (For the last couple of years, I've had reliable internet using StarLink.) 4) It would be great to have a VHF Winlink RMS gateway but that would require connecting another radio for a separate VHF frequency than the one used for packet. (Maybe the Winlink gateway could solely be based on telnet access rather than RF?) Please ask any questions and provide any suggestions or comments you might have. If you want to check out my current setup, my HF station is N0BN-1 and N0BN-7 on 14105, and my VHF station on 145.050 is accessible via N0HI-1, C 3 AB0VZ-7, C N0BN-1 or N0BN-7. I may ask other questions on other forums as well, but my primary focus is on RF packet, with internet-based functions a second priority. Several of you nationally and locally have been helpful already in other ways. Thanks in advance for some more help, and 73, Daniel N0BN/W3TQG (sometimes when mobile or testing)
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Packet tone pair for Kantronics KAM XL
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I have a new KAM XL running with an Icom IC-7410. Apparently, the default tone pair for HF packet is 2100/2300 Hz, CF 2200 Hz. I have flashed the latest Firmware BIOS and all looks to be OK running in terminal mode. Using the "Data LSB" mode in the 7410, my dial frequency turns out to be 14.105.5, instead of 14.105.0. I don't mind working around it this way. Just for the sake of consistency, I would like to somehow change the tone pair to 1600/1800 Hz. According to the manual, it looks like the MARK and SPACE commands are just for the RTTY mode. Likewise, using the "LOWTONES ON" command seems to have no effect either. The manual states that this command is used for "European" tones in RTTY, I assume. Am I missing something? Ideally, I would like to have the 1600/1800 Hz tone pair for Packet and even Pactor. But I would like to retain the 2125/2295 Hz tone pair for RTTY without having to change tones when switching between the modes. Am I able to do this? I can use the direct FSK keying from the KAM XL and have the 7410 generate the proper shift in the RTTY mode. But the issue remain with the decoding the corresponding tone pair on receive. I hope that I am making sense with this request. 73, Randy, WB9WKJ
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Housekeeping Network105 Groups.io
Dear Members, I'm excited to say that our group has topped over 500 members. Membership is open to any valid licensed amateur radio operator interested in HF packet radio. Please take a moment to update your Display Name with at least your first name and your call sign. Display names without this information will be considered for deletion. Thank you, Chris Lance, WW2BSA Network105 Groups.io Moderator
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First tries on HF PAcket
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Hello to all of the group from IW5CI from Italy , US callsign KD2KRK. i am trying to setup an hf packet station and it was a really good news to ear that this group promotes hf packet. It reminds me when i used to use packet with the C64 in the eighties! My setup is a vintage HP-85A personal Computer with serial interface and a KAM+ TNC . I hace connected this setup to my Yaesu FT-5000 using the rear packet port. The radio setup was not simple because the packet mode of the ft-5000 is very narrow . I managed to decode some packets with the MENU "PKT SFT" set to 1700 HZ because at lower or higher settings i could not decode anything. i have some question to ask before putting the radio in rx of 14.105 to try to ear some traffic from the states: the radio does not go in TX if i don't set the squelch on , but how i can receive low signals in ssb with the squelch on? which is the correct frequency to tune the ft-5000 to receive the traffic with my setup? is it correct 14.105 packet lsb? it's possible to receive the traffic from europe? in that case i will leave my radio active during the weekend and i hope someone will leave a message on my iw5ci-1 pbbs! 73
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YouTube video
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I'm trying to get uz7ho sound modem to talk to easy term.
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EasyTerm
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How do you send the stored messages ¡°welcome.txt, info.txt, and bye.txt¡± New to Net 105 Bill N0AVK
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Grid Down Exercise Planning Group Wanted
Good Day All, The TPRFN Network is looking for a group of people to start the planning of a possible Grid Down Exercise, either in the late spring or early summer this year. The exercise would revolve around Packet Radio (all modes), Winlink (offline post office), APRS (RF over HF) & AREDN RF connected networks, and any other digital modes that can integrated. We would like to partner with any other EMCOMM groups that have or would like to implement a backbone RF network in your local regions. Looking to include: ARRL/ARES AuxComm USA AuxComm State Groups RRI Any other Emergency Management Organizations Others This is just conceptual and would require some planning but at the same time not be to difficult for people/groups to participate. The only way to fully understand what our RF EMCOMM capabilities really are in the US is to put it to the test! If you have an interest in being part of this organizational group, please use the Contact Us form on the www.tprfn.net website. Feel free to share this email/post with local groups or clubs. As always the TPRFN Network is continuing to look for additional Hub & Polling Stations across the US.. Apologies for any grammar or spelling errors! -- 73 de Glenn Allison N3MEL (tprfn) The Packet Radio Forwarding Network EPA Hub Station www.tprfn.net Emergency Coordinator Chester County ARES/RACES www.w3eoc.org Sent with Spark
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HF packet data rates
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New here, so sorry if this is a rehash¡¡. I have been running packet on U/HHF for a long time so typically 1200 or 9600 rate, but i am trying to extend my node reach and looking at HF, typically HF was limited to 300 baud but i was wondering if this network was still using 300 on HF or if you have moved up to 1200? thanks bob va3rjs
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UZ7HO Question
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Hell name here is Tom. I am new to the group and HF Packet. I recently installed UZ7HO'S sound modem and easy term clients. I have been trying to connect to stations on 14.105 LSB, from my MHeard list, for a few weeks now without any success. I have everything configured to suggested parameters. I am using a windows 10 machine along with a rigblaster interface. This setup works perfectly with many other sound card clients.
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Happy New Year!
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Happy New Year to all! 73 de Chris ww2bsa
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SCS PTC-II modem tones
I am leaving this here in case someone else runs up against the same problem The DSP-II-module used to add packet radio in the PTC-II and PTC-IIpro has fixed tones for 300B packet ? DSP-Packet-Radio-Module-II for: - 300 baud AFSK (modem tones are fixed to 2300/2100 Hz, High-Tones) All the other modulations follow the definable tones parameter so i was confused why the tones were not following what i had selected. So with these fixed tones i simply had to tune dial to 14.105.5 and it decoded the packets just fine. 73 -Jadon
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Jumpering ports on SCS PTC-II?
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I've installed a DSP Module II into my older SCS PRC-II, so I can access the Net105 Group running 300b HF packet, but finding that it's a pain to switch my 5 pin Din cable back between HF port and Port 2 to change from normal Winlink modes on Pactor to the Packet modem. Has anyone tried, or can I safely jumper the 3 wires - tx, rx and ptt between the 2 ports, and just stay in the HF port? While I don't see any danger, I thought I'd query the experts. Any ideas? Tnx - 73 Mike VE3EQP .....>
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Packet on Ubuntu
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Hey Ryan, Unfortunately there are no simple instructions for setting up packet on Linux, because it depends on how your PC is connected to your radio, and what exactly you want to do with packet. But basically, you can get started with connecting to other stations by installing Direwolf and a packet terminal program. To install Direwolf, you can either use 'sudo apt install direwolf' or you can download and compile the source code from github: https://github.com/wb2osz/direwolf Once you have it installed, you need to configure the direwolf.conf file for your system, in particular for soundcard and PTT control. I'll attached a copy of my config file to help get you started. Mine is certainly not necessarily the "right way" to do it, but it is one way. :) Look for the Direwolf "User-Guide.pdf" either on the github site, or in the source code directory if you compiled it manually. Next you'll need a packet terminal. An easy one to install is called Paracon, which is located here: https://github.com/mfncooper/paracon Another one is QtTermTCP, written by G8BPQ the same guy that maintains the BPQ packet radio BBS programs. I have never been able to get it to work properly on Ubuntu/Linux Mint, apparently I'm missing some libraries. But you might have better luck than me! https://www.cantab.net/users/john.wiseman/Documents/QtTermTCP.html A third option is to install Wine (the Windows Emulator) on Linux and then run UZ7HO's EasyTerm in Wine. It works great, and it also includes a simple mailbox feature that the others do not have. I hope that helps get you started, and feel free to let me know if you have any questions along the way! -- Cheers, Steve K4RVA
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