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Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

Re:-
I would suggest that you provide feedback to the pipewire and wireplumber developers



and



have lots of messages appearing and the main developers see them daily.

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OK Brian, I have signed up for gitlab, and have read access at least.? I'll wait a day and see if I gain access to comment/raise an issue.
(It seems they have been having a lot of spam posting issues.)
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I thought Github was confusing enough, but gitlab takes the biscuit in that respect!
No doubt if one immerses oneself into it, the mists clear, but for occasional users reporting issues, not helpful from first impressions.
I'll try and stick with it though.
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I'll report back here on any progress with the issues I have found, if they regard them as issues of course.
?
73.
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Dave G0WBX.


Re: [KM4ACK-Pi] Trouble installing VARA on RPi4

 

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Adrian:

Many thanks for the reply ! Linux noob here, but studying. I think I have vb6run (I think SP6) and mfc42 already installed, but I will check.?

I do NOT have cabextract. I¡¯ll also check the others. Now, with a 32 bit system, do I need wine64 or wine32 ?

I need to document all this, because if I actually do get this right, there are a lot of guys that want to know about it. I¡¯ll keep notes. :)

73, Jamie
WB4YDL



On Jan 10, 2025, at 9:22?PM, Adrian Fewster, VK4TUX via groups.io <vk4tux@...> wrote:

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I run some G4HFQ Yaesu VB6 software? (FTBCAT, FTBbasicMMO etc)


?under wine here; Had to do ;

winetricks vb6run

winetricks mfc42


also

sudo apt install cabextract


sudo apt install wine wine64 libwine fonts-wine

With good results


Its interesting with codeweavers 'Crossover' that I paid $ for, that there is no apparent solution to run VB6 programs.

Their forum also ignored the question. wine/winetricks saved the day.


vk4tux


On 11/1/25 12:46, James C. Hall, MD WB4YDL via groups.io wrote:
OK, using Winetricks, I installed VB6, and a few missing other files. I was still getting errors about missing or misinstalled OCX files. I had to retrieve them at OCXme.com.

Finally, VARA FM materialized briefly ¡­ but shut down quickly. A buzzkill. The error is something about advapi32.dll. I tried a different version, but getting the same thing.
¡°Call from 7BDAACE8 to unimplemented function ADVAPI32.DLL. PerfEnumerateCounterSet, aborting wine ¡­¡± Then it calls for debugger which didn¡¯t run.

I¡¯m close, just not there. Any help appreciated. Going to copy this to linuxham group as well.

73, Jamie
WB4YDL

PS - while running Winetricks for missing files, this error box came up
image0.jpeg

This may be the source of why the VARA install Pi App script would just stall. I never got this box when I ran it - only with Winetricks. Tried wineserver -k and -k9, but it never stopped these boxes. But when I clicked OK, it woul take off and continue to complete the requested fill.

Again, RPi4 with 32bit Bullseye.



On Jan 10, 2025, at 2:14?PM, James C. Hall, MD WB4YDL <heartdoc@...> wrote:

? Well, slowly I¡¯m learning some of this Linux stuff ! HI I have a couple SD cards that I go back and forth with. What I decided to do was manually install Box86 and Wine thanks to a great how-to article -

?

So, I installed VARA and VARA FM, but neither would run - missing required DLL - a MS Visual Basic. So, I guess this is where Winetricks comes in to save the day. Lots of studying to do - but it is kinda fun and interesting.

I could never get the Pi Apps install routine for VARA to work - it would just stall out in the middle of things. If anyone can point me in the right direction on installing and running Winetricks, I would appreciate it.

I may try that Pi Apps script again but on Ethernet instead of WiFi. Something to try ¡­

73, Jamie
WB4YDL




On Jan 6, 2025, at 9:51?PM, James C. Hall, MD <heartdoc@...> wrote:

?Is there a time limit to install something on a RPi or something ? I¡¯ve been trying to install VARA (using the Pi-Apps install) and I¡¯ve noticed that it will go so far in the installation and just stop - I can wait an hour and it never moves. The CPU slider on Conky will go down to idle at 6-7%. I can restart the process and it may get a little farther (since some things are now installed), but it again stalls mid-stream. This is a new Bullseye install with minimal 73Linux items selected.

I installed VARA previously without issue a couple years ago and didn¡¯t have any issues thanks to Jason¡¯s tutorial.

WINE stalls about when installing fonts.

Any suggestions to try ?

73, Jamie
WB4YDL



Re: [KM4ACK-Pi] Trouble installing VARA on RPi4

 

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OK, using Winetricks, I installed VB6, and a few missing other files. I was still getting errors about missing or misinstalled OCX files. I had to retrieve them at OCXme.com.

Finally, VARA FM materialized briefly ¡­ but shut down quickly. A buzzkill. The error is something about advapi32.dll. I tried a different version, but getting the same thing.
¡°Call from 7BDAACE8 to unimplemented function ADVAPI32.DLL. PerfEnumerateCounterSet, aborting wine ¡­¡± Then it calls for debugger which didn¡¯t run.

I¡¯m close, just not there. Any help appreciated. Going to copy this to linuxham group as well.

73, Jamie
WB4YDL

PS - while running Winetricks for missing files, this error box came up
image0.jpeg

This may be the source of why the VARA install Pi App script would just stall. I never got this box when I ran it - only with Winetricks. Tried wineserver -k and -k9, but it never stopped these boxes. But when I clicked OK, it woul take off and continue to complete the requested fill.

Again, RPi4 with 32bit Bullseye.



On Jan 10, 2025, at 2:14?PM, James C. Hall, MD WB4YDL <heartdoc@...> wrote:

?Well, slowly I¡¯m learning some of this Linux stuff ! HI I have a couple SD cards that I go back and forth with. What I decided to do was manually install Box86 and Wine thanks to a great how-to article -

?

So, I installed VARA and VARA FM, but neither would run - missing required DLL - a MS Visual Basic. So, I guess this is where Winetricks comes in to save the day. Lots of studying to do - but it is kinda fun and interesting.

I could never get the Pi Apps install routine for VARA to work - it would just stall out in the middle of things. If anyone can point me in the right direction on installing and running Winetricks, I would appreciate it.

I may try that Pi Apps script again but on Ethernet instead of WiFi. Something to try ¡­

73, Jamie
WB4YDL




On Jan 6, 2025, at 9:51?PM, James C. Hall, MD <heartdoc@...> wrote:

?Is there a time limit to install something on a RPi or something ? I¡¯ve been trying to install VARA (using the Pi-Apps install) and I¡¯ve noticed that it will go so far in the installation and just stop - I can wait an hour and it never moves. The CPU slider on Conky will go down to idle at 6-7%. I can restart the process and it may get a little farther (since some things are now installed), but it again stalls mid-stream. This is a new Bullseye install with minimal 73Linux items selected.

I installed VARA previously without issue a couple years ago and didn¡¯t have any issues thanks to Jason¡¯s tutorial.

WINE stalls about when installing fonts.

Any suggestions to try ?

73, Jamie
WB4YDL



Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

Thanks Brian.
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I will follow that up.
?
73.
?
Dave G0WBX
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Re: CWID confusion.

 

Thanks Dave 'HKJ.
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I'll try that when home tomorrow and let you know.
?
One thing that always frustrates me, is the lack of a context driven help system.? However, achieving that would not be a trivial undertaking.
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I also fail to find the obvious in the help documentation, I just don't think in the way it is laid out.
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(Same with general Web searching!? My Google foo is poor.)
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73.
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Dave G0WBX.
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Re: Bug report/request - failure of various RsID/Lk operations fldigi V3 to V4

 

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Bob,

I am investigating.

David

On 1/10/25 01:23, Bob Cameron, VK2YQA via groups.io wrote:

Wonder if you would review this again Dave. Same behaviour in 4.2.06.19 (yeah I am slow...)

What I didn't make clear in my OP was with "Retain tx freq lock" enabled, the operational expectation is that the RX freq would shift to meet the RSID centre, but leave the TX frequency where it is. If "Retain tx freq lock" is disabled I expect the TX and RX to shift together. (which is what it does)

Note there us differing action too if the modem changes vs not. Please try a few RSID's of the same modem, then try changing the modem.

Cheers Bob


On 19/8/24 20:22, w1hkj wrote:
Bob,

This is on 4.2.05.25



The transmit stays locked at 7071.0 and the Rx is at 7071.3.

Dave

On 8/14/24 21:54, Bob Gypay wrote:

Crossposted? to both fldigi-devel and linuxham

Tested on v4.2.04.11 and 4.2.04.24 against 3.23.21 (By John VK2ETA)

Using PSK250RC7, PSK500RC3, PSK125RC10 and PSK63RCx (ie not all modems checked)

With "Retain tx freq lock" enabled in RsID configuration plus Lk set, V4 no longer enables Lk operation nor splits the wfall TX/RX for the PSK125RC &? PSK63RC modems. The PSK250RC and PSK500RC modems act in the same way as 8PSKx and OFDMx modems, shifting TX/RX together, ignoring the RsID config setting and also not responding to Lk.

It might also be a good idea to force Lk operation when setting this RsID config parameter and update the tooltip to explain what is happening.

As it currently stands a mode such as PSK63RC5 is quite troublesome to RsID tune as disabling TX lock can cause TX/RX "walking" if any RIT is in play.

And since it is in the same "auto" tuning area it might be a good idea to modify the AFC button tooltip to grey out on unsupported modes. ie only single carrier PSK.

Cheers Bob VK2YQA



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Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:09:07 +0000
"Dave, G?WBX via groups.io" <g8kbvdave@...> wrote:

Emulations are not always perfect of course, it takes only one "edge
case" and all bet's are off..

One thing I know Pipewire prevents, when using Pavucontrol, is
renaming of the devices.? Whatever instructions I follow (that has
always worked in the past) to make that facility available, it just
doesn't even attempt to allow renaming.

This is on LMDE 6, LMDE 5 worked perfectly in that respect.

I have tried WirePlumber, that seems to work (device renaming also,
within that application) and settings were remembered, but each time
it was started, the graphical layout was "re-arranged" differently
(at random, with items spread all over the UI and a tangle of
"wires"!) making it almost useless for most people.

Frankly, for serious usage where "stability of settings" is needed
between sessions, Pipewire still has some way to go.

Plus, detailed info about it is non existent to "varied and sketchy"
if you search online for help, indicating to me anyway, that it is
still someway off being suitable for prime-time distribution.

73.

Dave G0WBX.

Still, trying to figure out why I can only use one LMDE 6 PC as Root,
"my" user, it seems has lost the permissions needed to allow the
Cinnamon desktop to start!? (Something to do with permissions to
access ports 0x00 to 0x3f!)? None of the online solutions so far have
even come close to helping.?? That issue happened either during a
"proper and correct" shutdown, or a later (some days) cold boot. The
PC hardware is fine.
I would suggest that you provide feedback to the pipewire and
wireplumber developers



and



have lots of messages appearing and the main developers see them daily.

--

Brian G8SEZ


Re: CWID confusion.

 

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<PUSH>
<TXRSID:off>
<MODEM:NULL>
<CWID><TX><RX>
<@TXRSID:on>
<@POP>

You need to reset the TX RsID and modem restore using the @ predecedent to insure those occur after returning to the receive mode.

Dave

On 1/10/25 06:47, Dave, G?WBX via groups.io wrote:

Hi.

I'm sure I had all this working in the past, but not now....... Not helped by issues with my main PC preventing reliable access to it.?? That is fully disconnected, cold and dead for now.

Fldigi 4.2.06 with Flrig 2.0.05 on LMDE 6 running on an 8 core intel based machine, a Dell XPS laptop with 8G RAM, using external USB connected sound device, and serial port DTR to key the radio, a TS870s.

Using Fldigi/Flrig for "normal" working is fine, but attempting to create a macro to send a CWID and "ONLY" a CWID, and I'm failing...

I'm sure this has cropped up before in the list, but attempting to create a macro to send a CWID and "ONLY" a CWID, regardless of the prevailing mode that was being used I can't make work, after some 40 minutes faffing about, so hear I am.

This is the contents behind a freshly assigned "CW ID" Macro button...

<TXRSID:off>
<PUSH>
<MODEM:CW>
<TX>
<CWID>
<RX>
<POP>
<TXRSID:on>

It fails miserably...

Firstly it doe not always put the rig into TX!? Sometimes it will for a few attempts, then it'll not bother, but sends audio each and every time.? (Debugging this with the rig on low power into a load, while using the default audio device for the TX audio, so hopefully no QRM being sent.)

It always sends a RSID (TXID button here is enabled by default, and is not seen to be disabled while the macro runs.)? Then a burst of Olivia 8/250 (the mode that is present before invoking the macro) then does the CWID, and goes back to recieve.

The indicated mode does not change in the lower left display of Fldigi either.

Each individual macro function works exactly as advertised, but not it seems when combined into one file.? In this case.

What have I missed this time??? I.e.? How to force a macro to execute sequentially, as it is shown in the editor.

I just want it to key the radio, send an unadulterated CWID without any TXID or burst of whatever other digimode was being used, then go back to RX restoring the mode that was in use before the macro was invoked.

As earlier.? "Normal" Fldigi usage is fine.?? As are the usual macros for calling answering sending info, logging and closing QSO's etc.

Confused again and getting fed up with it.

73.

Dave G0WBX.



CWID confusion.

 

Hi.

I'm sure I had all this working in the past, but not now....... Not helped by issues with my main PC preventing reliable access to it.?? That is fully disconnected, cold and dead for now.

Fldigi 4.2.06 with Flrig 2.0.05 on LMDE 6 running on an 8 core intel based machine, a Dell XPS laptop with 8G RAM, using external USB connected sound device, and serial port DTR to key the radio, a TS870s.

Using Fldigi/Flrig for "normal" working is fine, but attempting to create a macro to send a CWID and "ONLY" a CWID, and I'm failing...

I'm sure this has cropped up before in the list, but attempting to create a macro to send a CWID and "ONLY" a CWID, regardless of the prevailing mode that was being used I can't make work, after some 40 minutes faffing about, so hear I am.

This is the contents behind a freshly assigned "CW ID" Macro button...

<TXRSID:off>
<PUSH>
<MODEM:CW>
<TX>
<CWID>
<RX>
<POP>
<TXRSID:on>

It fails miserably...

Firstly it doe not always put the rig into TX!? Sometimes it will for a few attempts, then it'll not bother, but sends audio each and every time.? (Debugging this with the rig on low power into a load, while using the default audio device for the TX audio, so hopefully no QRM being sent.)

It always sends a RSID (TXID button here is enabled by default, and is not seen to be disabled while the macro runs.)? Then a burst of Olivia 8/250 (the mode that is present before invoking the macro) then does the CWID, and goes back to recieve.

The indicated mode does not change in the lower left display of Fldigi either.

Each individual macro function works exactly as advertised, but not it seems when combined into one file.? In this case.

What have I missed this time??? I.e.? How to force a macro to execute sequentially, as it is shown in the editor.

I just want it to key the radio, send an unadulterated CWID without any TXID or burst of whatever other digimode was being used, then go back to RX restoring the mode that was in use before the macro was invoked.

As earlier.? "Normal" Fldigi usage is fine.?? As are the usual macros for calling answering sending info, logging and closing QSO's etc.

Confused again and getting fed up with it.

73.

Dave G0WBX.

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Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using open source software:


Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

From: Dave, W1HKJ
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 13:48:52 GMT
Pipewire is designed to emulate the API calls made to Pulseaudio.


Emulations are not always perfect of course, it takes only one "edge case" and all bet's are off..

One thing I know Pipewire prevents, when using Pavucontrol, is renaming of the devices.? Whatever instructions I follow (that has always worked in the past) to make that facility available, it just doesn't even attempt to allow renaming.

This is on LMDE 6, LMDE 5 worked perfectly in that respect.

I have tried WirePlumber, that seems to work (device renaming also, within that application) and settings were remembered, but each time it was started, the graphical layout was "re-arranged" differently (at random, with items spread all over the UI and a tangle of "wires"!) making it almost useless for most people.

Frankly, for serious usage where "stability of settings" is needed between sessions, Pipewire still has some way to go.

Plus, detailed info about it is non existent to "varied and sketchy" if you search online for help, indicating to me anyway, that it is still someway off being suitable for prime-time distribution.

73.

Dave G0WBX.

Still, trying to figure out why I can only use one LMDE 6 PC as Root, "my" user, it seems has lost the permissions needed to allow the Cinnamon desktop to start!? (Something to do with permissions to access ports 0x00 to 0x3f!)? None of the online solutions so far have even come close to helping.?? That issue happened either during a "proper and correct" shutdown, or a later (some days) cold boot. The PC hardware is fine.

--
Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using open source software:


Re: Bug report/request - failure of various RsID/Lk operations fldigi V3 to V4

 

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Wonder if you would review this again Dave. Same behaviour in 4.2.06.19 (yeah I am slow...)

What I didn't make clear in my OP was with "Retain tx freq lock" enabled, the operational expectation is that the RX freq would shift to meet the RSID centre, but leave the TX frequency where it is. If "Retain tx freq lock" is disabled I expect the TX and RX to shift together. (which is what it does)

Note there us differing action too if the modem changes vs not. Please try a few RSID's of the same modem, then try changing the modem.

Cheers Bob


On 19/8/24 20:22, w1hkj wrote:

Bob,

This is on 4.2.05.25



The transmit stays locked at 7071.0 and the Rx is at 7071.3.

Dave

On 8/14/24 21:54, Bob Gypay wrote:

Crossposted? to both fldigi-devel and linuxham

Tested on v4.2.04.11 and 4.2.04.24 against 3.23.21 (By John VK2ETA)

Using PSK250RC7, PSK500RC3, PSK125RC10 and PSK63RCx (ie not all modems checked)

With "Retain tx freq lock" enabled in RsID configuration plus Lk set, V4 no longer enables Lk operation nor splits the wfall TX/RX for the PSK125RC &? PSK63RC modems. The PSK250RC and PSK500RC modems act in the same way as 8PSKx and OFDMx modems, shifting TX/RX together, ignoring the RsID config setting and also not responding to Lk.

It might also be a good idea to force Lk operation when setting this RsID config parameter and update the tooltip to explain what is happening.

As it currently stands a mode such as PSK63RC5 is quite troublesome to RsID tune as disabling TX lock can cause TX/RX "walking" if any RIT is in play.

And since it is in the same "auto" tuning area it might be a good idea to modify the AFC button tooltip to grey out on unsupported modes. ie only single carrier PSK.

Cheers Bob VK2YQA



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CTY-3502 Country Files - 10 January 2025

 

The Country (CTY) Files were updated on 10 January 2025:



For installation instructions, start at:



Hover your mouse over the word Contest in the menu, then select the
software you are using.

To install the file, follow the link to your software at the top of the page.

If you are interested in a bigger CTY.DAT for everyday logging, you can get
it here:



Note that the release notes (and Version Entity) for this larger file are
different than what is shown below. There is a separate link to them.

As a reminder, there is an RSS feed of the latest country file announcements:



Here are the release notes:

10 January 2025 (CTY-3502)
VER20250110, Version entity is Bulgaria, LZ

Added/changed Entities/Prefixes/Callsigns:

* EA7CA is Canary Islands, EA8
* TO8AN is St. Martin, FS
* GB2KW is Scotland, GM
* GB9KW is Wales, GW
* KC0RKB, KF5JC and WA6QDQ are all Hawaii, KH6
* AC1RU and KD9CVY are both Alaska, KL
* LU6DJ/D, LU6DM/D, LU8DCH/D, LU8EMD/D, LW5EVI/D and LW9EVV/D are all Argentina, LU
* LU1YY/V is Argentina, LU in ITU zone 16
* R8FF/P is in ITU zone 29, not ITU zone 30
* R8FF/P is in CQ zone 16, not CQ zone 17
* RA8CP/P is Asiatic Russia, UA9
* RC1BM/P is Asiatic Russia, UA9 in CQ zone 16

Removed Entities/Prefixes/Callsigns:

* EA3HSD/P in Spain, EA
* FO/NX1P in Marquesas Islands, FO/m
* W4ATD in United States, K
* K7DN, KN6EQR, KQ4UZD and N8XUL in Alaska, KL
* R8XF/P, R9JQ/6, RN3QOP/4 and UA9XL/P in European Russia, UA
* CF2I in Canada, VE

Though I am subscribed to this reflector so that I can make these
announcements, I do not see most messages posted to it. If you have
any comments or corrections to the country file, please contact me
directly.

73 - Jim AD1C

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Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

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Same here on Fedora 39 and now 41. ?pavucontrol works fine


On Thu, 2025-01-09 at 14:15 -0600, Dave, W1HKJ via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Brian.? Any reports from other distribution users?

David

On 1/9/25 13:07, Brian Morrison ,G8SEZ via groups.io wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:15:05 -0600
"Dave, W1HKJ" <w1hkj@...> wrote:


Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do
not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.
I've been using pipewire under Fedora for over 2 years now and
pavucontrol works perfectly with it here.




Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

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Thanks Brian.? Any reports from other distribution users?

David

On 1/9/25 13:07, Brian Morrison ,G8SEZ via groups.io wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:15:05 -0600
"Dave, W1HKJ" <w1hkj@...> wrote:

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do
not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.
I've been using pipewire under Fedora for over 2 years now and
pavucontrol works perfectly with it here.



Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 18:15:05 -0600
"Dave, W1HKJ" <w1hkj@...> wrote:

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do
not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.
I've been using pipewire under Fedora for over 2 years now and
pavucontrol works perfectly with it here.

--

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Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

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Pipewire is designed to emulate the API calls made to Pulseaudio.

David

On 1/9/25 07:40, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:

Sounds good. Just like I've always had it. It just confused me a little because I'm hearing from the tech world that pipewire is the replacement for pulseaudio so I thought we would have to change the configuration from pulseaudio to portaudio using pipewire. It's a challenge keeping all of this straight LOL.

Ron NY3J


On 1/9/25 08:22, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
If you are using Pipewire as the audio controller then simple check "PulseAudio" on the fldigi Soundcard/Devices dialog tab.

David

On 1/9/25 05:06, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:
Thanks David,

So I installed qpwgraph and when I run it I see a graphical display but I don't see any slider bars to adjust audio. I can see pipewire in my pulse audio volume control application so is it okay to use that? Here's what it looks like:



Also, in Fldigi sound card configuration do I need to select PortAudio, pipewire for my Devices?



Ron NY3J

On 1/8/25 19:15, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

When working with PipeWire, you can use audio mixer controls like "qpwgraph" (a Qt-based graphical patchbay), "Helvum" (a GTK-based patchbay), or Carla (a JACK-based mixer) to manage your audio routing and mixing, depending on your preferred interface and complexity needs; for more advanced audio processing, consider using dedicated plugins within your DAW or applications that support PipeWire integration.
Key points about these options:

??? qpwgraph:
??? Considered one of the most popular choices due to its user-friendly interface and Qt framework, offering a visual representation of your audio connections within PipeWire.
??? Helvum:
??? A GTK-based patchbay that provides a similar functionality to qpwgraph, with a slightly different interface.
??? Carla:
??? While primarily a JACK-based mixer, it can be used with PipeWire through the JACK protocol, allowing for more complex audio processing and plugin integration.

David

On 1/8/25 15:45, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:
Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.
?
It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.
?
My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.
?
? Dan
? N7SHM









Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

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Sounds good. Just like I've always had it. It just confused me a little because I'm hearing from the tech world that pipewire is the replacement for pulseaudio so I thought we would have to change the configuration from pulseaudio to portaudio using pipewire. It's a challenge keeping all of this straight LOL.

Ron NY3J


On 1/9/25 08:22, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

If you are using Pipewire as the audio controller then simple check "PulseAudio" on the fldigi Soundcard/Devices dialog tab.

David

On 1/9/25 05:06, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:
Thanks David,

So I installed qpwgraph and when I run it I see a graphical display but I don't see any slider bars to adjust audio. I can see pipewire in my pulse audio volume control application so is it okay to use that? Here's what it looks like:



Also, in Fldigi sound card configuration do I need to select PortAudio, pipewire for my Devices?



Ron NY3J

On 1/8/25 19:15, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

When working with PipeWire, you can use audio mixer controls like "qpwgraph" (a Qt-based graphical patchbay), "Helvum" (a GTK-based patchbay), or Carla (a JACK-based mixer) to manage your audio routing and mixing, depending on your preferred interface and complexity needs; for more advanced audio processing, consider using dedicated plugins within your DAW or applications that support PipeWire integration.
Key points about these options:

??? qpwgraph:
??? Considered one of the most popular choices due to its user-friendly interface and Qt framework, offering a visual representation of your audio connections within PipeWire.
??? Helvum:
??? A GTK-based patchbay that provides a similar functionality to qpwgraph, with a slightly different interface.
??? Carla:
??? While primarily a JACK-based mixer, it can be used with PipeWire through the JACK protocol, allowing for more complex audio processing and plugin integration.

David

On 1/8/25 15:45, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:
Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.
?
It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.
?
My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.
?
? Dan
? N7SHM








Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

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If you are using Pipewire as the audio controller then simple check "PulseAudio" on the fldigi Soundcard/Devices dialog tab.

David

On 1/9/25 05:06, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:

Thanks David,

So I installed qpwgraph and when I run it I see a graphical display but I don't see any slider bars to adjust audio. I can see pipewire in my pulse audio volume control application so is it okay to use that? Here's what it looks like:



Also, in Fldigi sound card configuration do I need to select PortAudio, pipewire for my Devices?



Ron NY3J

On 1/8/25 19:15, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

When working with PipeWire, you can use audio mixer controls like "qpwgraph" (a Qt-based graphical patchbay), "Helvum" (a GTK-based patchbay), or Carla (a JACK-based mixer) to manage your audio routing and mixing, depending on your preferred interface and complexity needs; for more advanced audio processing, consider using dedicated plugins within your DAW or applications that support PipeWire integration.
Key points about these options:

??? qpwgraph:
??? Considered one of the most popular choices due to its user-friendly interface and Qt framework, offering a visual representation of your audio connections within PipeWire.
??? Helvum:
??? A GTK-based patchbay that provides a similar functionality to qpwgraph, with a slightly different interface.
??? Carla:
??? While primarily a JACK-based mixer, it can be used with PipeWire through the JACK protocol, allowing for more complex audio processing and plugin integration.

David

On 1/8/25 15:45, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:
Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.
?
It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.
?
My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.
?
? Dan
? N7SHM







Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Thanks David,

So I installed qpwgraph and when I run it I see a graphical display but I don't see any slider bars to adjust audio. I can see pipewire in my pulse audio volume control application so is it okay to use that? Here's what it looks like:



Also, in Fldigi sound card configuration do I need to select PortAudio, pipewire for my Devices?



Ron NY3J

On 1/8/25 19:15, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

When working with PipeWire, you can use audio mixer controls like "qpwgraph" (a Qt-based graphical patchbay), "Helvum" (a GTK-based patchbay), or Carla (a JACK-based mixer) to manage your audio routing and mixing, depending on your preferred interface and complexity needs; for more advanced audio processing, consider using dedicated plugins within your DAW or applications that support PipeWire integration.
Key points about these options:

??? qpwgraph:
??? Considered one of the most popular choices due to its user-friendly interface and Qt framework, offering a visual representation of your audio connections within PipeWire.
??? Helvum:
??? A GTK-based patchbay that provides a similar functionality to qpwgraph, with a slightly different interface.
??? Carla:
??? While primarily a JACK-based mixer, it can be used with PipeWire through the JACK protocol, allowing for more complex audio processing and plugin integration.

David

On 1/8/25 15:45, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:
Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:
Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.
?
It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.
?
My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.
?
? Dan
? N7SHM






Re: fldigi abort witnessed - Pi 4.2.05.24

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Pipewire is supposed to emulate the API calls for pulseaudio.? I do not think that pavucontrol is compatible with pipewire.

When working with PipeWire, you can use audio mixer controls like "qpwgraph" (a Qt-based graphical patchbay), "Helvum" (a GTK-based patchbay), or Carla (a JACK-based mixer) to manage your audio routing and mixing, depending on your preferred interface and complexity needs; for more advanced audio processing, consider using dedicated plugins within your DAW or applications that support PipeWire integration.
Key points about these options:

??? qpwgraph:
??? Considered one of the most popular choices due to its user-friendly interface and Qt framework, offering a visual representation of your audio connections within PipeWire.
??? Helvum:
??? A GTK-based patchbay that provides a similar functionality to qpwgraph, with a slightly different interface.
??? Carla:
??? While primarily a JACK-based mixer, it can be used with PipeWire through the JACK protocol, allowing for more complex audio processing and plugin integration.

David

On 1/8/25 15:45, Ron NY3J via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Dave, I will try the debugger.
I just did a new install on my new install of Linux Cinnamon Mint 22 using the WIKI. I followed the console and couldn't see what version of fltk it was installing.
Here's some notes I'm not sure about when I do the build:

****

sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi fails...

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude build-dep fldigi
Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12)
Unable to apply some actions, aborting

so I continue to do sudo apt-get

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep fldigi

When I do the sudo aptitude install pavucontrol command I get the following:

ny3j@ny3j-NucBox-G3:~$ sudo aptitude install pavucontrol
[sudo] password for ny3j:??????? ?
The following NEW packages will be installed:
? libasound2-plugins{a} pavucontrol pulseaudio{a}
0 packages upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,137 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,081 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
?pipewire-audio : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
????????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
?pipewire-alsa : Conflicts: pulseaudio but 1:16.1+dfsg1-2ubuntu10.1 is to be installed
???????????????? Conflicts: pulseaudio:i386 but it is not going to be installed
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

???? Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)???? pulseaudio [Not Installed]??????????????????????? ?

???? Leave the following dependencies unresolved:??????? ?
2)???? pavucontrol recommends pulseaudio???????????????? ?



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

I choose Y to accept this solution.

***

The messages that I get about Pulse Audio and Pipe Wire have me nervous.

73, Ron NY3J

On 1/7/25 09:27, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Have any of you tried running the offending code from within the gnu debugger?? reference:

David

On 1/7/25 08:14, Dave, W1HKJ wrote:
Which version of fltk is being used for the build?

On 1/6/25 23:26, N7SHM via groups.io wrote:
Same problem here with Debian 12 and fldigi 4.1.23 (latest in the mainline repository).? Locks up every few days with high CPU utilization.
?
It's the program, rather than some RFI or other environmental.?? Been there, have the t-shirt.? Too predictable for that, plus the OS and other programs run rock solid.
?
My guess is a Pipewire incompatibility as mentioned.? Will be checking out the potential flmsg connection.
?
? Dan
? N7SHM