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Re: Issue with Harpoon games


 

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Bonjour ¨¤ tous.
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Je pense que verrouiller l'acc¨¨s aux cellules ¨¤ ne pas modifier est une bonne id¨¦e.
Laurent
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Le 2021-01-28 15:08, Laurent Leclerc a ¨¦crit?:

Hi, I¡¯m probably the culprit here, or one of them. ?I believe it
would be better to simply freeze and lock the sheet and cells that
need to be untouched than completely removing the .ods files to the
player. ?

I frequently take hours to try various hypothesis and optimize the
route of ships and planes, and the sheet is essential for this work.
And it would bring even more work on the should of the referee which
is not a good thing.

Also note that the modification done to the sheet was in an attempt to
provide proper data to the GPSVisualization site to generate .kmz
files to get myself a good overview of the situation. ?So, if the
files was modified for this, I would need to work it all out.

The Referee job is already a heavy workload, for the sake of your
personal life, and the future of the group, is should be kept as low
as possible.

Salutations,

_ _

_LAURENT LECLERC _

DE : [email protected] <[email protected]> DE LA PART DE
Francis Marliere
ENVOY? : 27 janvier 2021 11:14
? : [email protected]
OBJET : [laguerrenavale] Issue with Harpoon games

Bonjour ¨¤ tous,

l'arbitrage des parties Harpoon, d¨¦j¨¤ intrins¨¨quement tr¨¨s
compliqu¨¦, est rendu plus difficile encore par des manipulations
malheureuses de vos interfaces ods. Je sais bien qu'aucun de vous ne
pense ¨¤ mal, mais les erreurs commises me compliquent
consid¨¦rablement le travail.

Ne touchez svp pas ¨¤ la structure du fichier. Un joueur l'a fait pour
personnaliser son interface (ce qui est l¨¦gitime). Le r¨¦sultat est
que j'ai du reconstruire le fichier pour g¨¦n¨¦rer les kmz.

Ne touchez pas non plus aux donn¨¦es des tours pr¨¦c¨¦dents : lorsque
je vous envoie le fichier ods, vous devez ajouter les ordres du tour
¨¤ venir mais en aucun cas modifier les donn¨¦es existantes (celles
des tours pr¨¦c¨¦dents). Un joueur l'a fait r¨¦cemment : les
changements apport¨¦s ont modifi¨¦ les coordonn¨¦es de l'unit¨¦
concern¨¦e, qui s'est trouv¨¦e ainsi "t¨¦l¨¦port¨¦e" de plusieurs
dizaines de nautiques vers l'est. Comme je ne m'en suis pas aper?u
tout de suite, cela a cr¨¦¨¦ une situation embrouill¨¦e ¨¤ laquelle je
ne comprenais plus rien, et m'a oblig¨¦ ¨¤ g¨¦rer de nouveau le tour
apr¨¨s avoir compris d'o¨´ venait le probl¨¨me.

Comprenez-bien que je ne jette la pierre ¨¤ personne. Je suis
conscient que le syst¨¨me de jeu par correspondance n'est pas parfait
et pr¨¦sente des fragilit¨¦s. Merci donc de faire attention en
attendant que je trouve des solutions. Une solution que j'envisage est
de restreindre l'usage de l'interface ods ¨¤ l'arbitre, qui la
renseignera en fonction des consignes donn¨¦es par les joueurs (dans
le document odt). Qu'en pensez-vous ?

Francis

_Gents,_

_I had serious issues while running both Harpoon games recently. Some
of you made some changes to their ods log sheet, with bad
consequences._

_One player did change the structure of the document (erasing formulas
or lines, etc.). Thereafter, the API no longer worked and I could not
generate kmz files untill I rewrite the files._

_Another did change data from past turns. Consequently, it modified
the current coordinates of the unit, that was 'teleported' from one
point to another. As I did not realise it from the start, I had to
manage a confused situation, then re-run the whole turn with the units
at their correct position._

_I know that none of you had bad intentions and I am not angry at all.
I just ask you to do your best untill I find a solution to the
problem. I understand that the tools for PBEM are not perfect and
allow easily errors. A possibiity would to let the referee enter data
in the ods document. Players would issue their orders in the odt / doc
file. Let me know what you think about that._

_Francis_

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