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I didn't see an option where to save it, but I didn't look for one. I will investigate.

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That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

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On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:

Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

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I just tried this on a Win11 virtual machine with KiCad 6.0.11.? In the symbol editor I clicked "New Library" and it defaulted to creating "RMS detector" in C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\symbols which is writable.? If you are trying to add a library to the system library folder, that might not be writable, but I don't see why KiCad would default to that.

Do you get the option to select where to put the library?

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KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

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I am trying to create a symbol for the AD736 RMS detector, but I am having no success either creating a new symbol or modifying an existing one (NE555). I created a library 'RMS detector', but I am told that it is not writeable, so I can't create or modify a symbol.

I found this with a search engine, but it only seems to go as far as
Kicad 6:



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Does KiCad publish its roadmap for guiding future development publicly? If so, can someone please provide a link to it.

Thanks.

out of curiosity: do you have any pictures and more information about the original author of KiCAD? Mr Jean Pierre Charras. I'm looking for a picture of him and I can't find it. I'm writing a book

Have been using Kicad 6 for some time.? I installed Kicad 7 and a project I am working on has four different pcb designs.? All were designed using Kicad 6.? 3 of the boards migrated fine into Kicad 7 and I can edit the boards etc. However, one board does not allow me to edit it in Kicad 7, all tracks, vias and components are highlighted in purple and the lock/unlock toolbar options are greyed out.? It is though something has completely locked up the design and I see no way to unlock it.

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Hello

Hole to hole clearance(Different nets)
Via to Via clearance(Same nets)
Pad to Pad clearance(Pad with hole, Different nets)

Yes, these all have the same drawing, but they are different types of structures.? What bugs me is they are actually talking about the holes for the structures, but simply say "via" or "pad" rather than specifying the drill hole.? I chalk this up to language issues. What would you expect to see different in the three drawing??

I also don't appreciate that they leave as ambiguous whether the hole is the finished hole, or the drilled hole.? I would expect it to be the drilled hole for any sort of clearance, but who knows what they are doing if they don't tell you?

Why would "Via to Track" be different from "PTH to Track", but the same as "NPTH to Track"??

With the volume they produce, you would think they might put more effort into effective communication.

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On 2/1/23 19:01, Alan Pearce via groups.io wrote:

Yeah, well, that is most likely a chat bot with no-one on the other end. That seems to be the case with those things as I understand it.
While they use identical pictograms they DO dimension correctly for the dimension they are providing, and if one can't follow the dimension lines ...

=> Definitely: No!

I don't know at which pictures you are looking at - or what browser you use.
I was referring (I called it PictureX) to exactly
in the section "Minimum clearance" on

Which is used at least three times: Via-to-Track, PTH-to-Track, NPTH-to-Track.

Same with:
This is used three times as well: Hole-to-Hole, Via-to-Via, Pad-to-Pad.

We seem to waste time here dissecting JLCPCBs Website... come on.

Greets,

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On 2/1/23 19:01, Alan Pearce via groups.io wrote:

Yeah, well, that is most likely a chat bot with no-one on the other end. That seems to be the case with those things as I understand it.
While they use identical pictograms they DO dimension correctly for the dimension they are providing, and if one can't follow the dimension lines ...
A difference between track-pad and track-track spacing will be normal to allow for soldering of pads. Even vias will require extra space for manufacturing tolerancing.
On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 16:44, Clemens Koller <cko@... <mailto:cko@...>> wrote:
Hi!
The <>
are IMO inconsistent in many aspects. Identical pictograms are used
for different values, indeed leading to confusion.
And I asked the staff directly via the online chat, why there is a
difference in between track-pad (PTH) spacing vs. track-track spacing.
The answer was "pls wait"; then "still checking" and then
"The chat has been closed due to long user inactivity."
-> good luck.
Greets,
Clemens

Hi!

On 2/1/23 19:01, Alan Pearce via groups.io wrote:

Yeah, well, that is most likely a chat bot with no-one on theother end. That seems to be the case with those things as I understand it.

I had the impression there was a human at the other end.
But good point. Next time, I'll ask a sqrt(64)+34=? question before I
continue wasting my time.

While they use identical pictograms they DO dimension correctly

for the dimension they are providing, and if one can't follow the dimension lines ...

I tend to disagree:
Via-to-Track = 0.254mm = PictureX
PTH-to-Track = 0.33mm = same PictureX
NPTH-to-Track = 0.254mm = same PictureX, which, btw. shows a PTH and not a NPTH.

A difference between track-pad and track-track spacing will be normal
to allow for soldering of pads.

I disagree when details are missing.
JLCPCB's seems to be mixing up PTH / NPTH and non drilled SMT Pads.

Anyway:
It seems to be advisable to send them your data to check their rules
for you. Maybe they are right, then. Only if you get a written
commitment, you can pull the trigger to go.

I have a good set of rules for my boards settled over the years which
can be manufactured at a known set of HDI-Houses. And I know where
the limitations are of some of them. Those are mostly originates not
due to the design rules, but more like in their manufacturing process.
E-Test failed because of open Vias (aspect ratio was 8:1 and they said
they are able to do that) because there was air trapped in the Via
(A shaker/vibrator thingy in the chemical bath was broken.)
Or we had Via barrel ruptures because of a failed de-smearing process.
The E-Test was okay after manufacturing... but after soldering we
ran into failing boards... You can guess, it was an lengthly discussion
about who will be responsible for the damage.
Good that we saved soldering temperature profiles...


Greets,

Clemens

On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 at 16:44, Clemens Koller <cko@... <mailto:cko@...>> wrote:
Hi!
The <>
are IMO inconsistent in many aspects. Identical pictograms are used
for different values, indeed leading to confusion.
And I asked the staff directly via the online chat, why there is a
difference in between track-pad (PTH) spacing vs. track-track spacing.
The answer was "pls wait"; then "still checking" and then
"The chat has been closed due to long user inactivity."
-> good luck.
Greets,
Clemens

Hi!

The
are IMO inconsistent in many aspects. Identical pictograms are used
for different values, indeed leading to confusion.

And I asked the staff directly via the online chat, why there is a
difference in between track-pad (PTH) spacing vs. track-track spacing.

The answer was "pls wait"; then "still checking" and then
"The chat has been closed due to long user inactivity."

-> good luck.

Greets,

Clemens