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Disaster recovery?

 

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I asked KiCad to renumber the components on the schematic. What I didn't realise is that it turns the PCB into a disaster area, because many of the components are then in the wrong places, with wrong connections. Is there a way to recover from this, or do I have to delete all the components and tracks and start again?? Is there a way to prevent the disaster, other than not renumbering?

I have another question: is there a way of printing the list of keyboard shortcuts? Since it is an HTML page in the on-line manual, I can't see how to do it.

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Re: Footprint without schematic symbol

 

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Thanks, Andy. Yes, that's what I should be doing, but it's a big job to get started on. I'm trying to appease the alligators, before draining he swamp.

On 2024-05-23 10:24, Andy wrote:
SW_DP3T looks something like what you are asking form it's in the switch
lib.

Get used to making your own footprints and symbols it's one of the most
useful things you can do as it's a great time saver.

The way to go is find a symbol (or footprint) that's close, copy it,
rename and save in your own libs which you should be doing anyway, and
it's not a good idea to use the provided libs directly as you have no way
of knowing if an update has changed something. It's should not, bit it
can happen.  

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On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:53:09 +0100
"John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

I want to use a double-pole switch with centre-off position, and the 
footprint: 
Button_Switch_THT:SW_Push_2P2T_Vertical_E-Switch_800UDP8P1A1M6 is good. 
But I can't find? a schematic symbol for it, only SPDT_MSM for a 
single-pole version. Do I have to make a new symbol for it? That means 
delving into the 'user libraries' process, which I find very confusing.

Actually, I am using only one pole, but that switch fits mechanically 
very well and I have a supply.

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Re: Footprint without schematic symbol

 

SW_DP3T looks something like what you are asking form it's in the switch
lib.

Get used to making your own footprints and symbols it's one of the most
useful things you can do as it's a great time saver.

The way to go is find a symbol (or footprint) that's close, copy it,
rename and save in your own libs which you should be doing anyway, and
it's not a good idea to use the provided libs directly as you have no way
of knowing if an update has changed something. It's should not, bit it
can happen.

Andy



On Thu, 23 May 2024 09:53:09 +0100
"John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

I want to use a double-pole switch with centre-off position, and the
footprint:
Button_Switch_THT:SW_Push_2P2T_Vertical_E-Switch_800UDP8P1A1M6 is good.
But I can't find? a schematic symbol for it, only SPDT_MSM for a
single-pole version. Do I have to make a new symbol for it? That means
delving into the 'user libraries' process, which I find very confusing.

Actually, I am using only one pole, but that switch fits mechanically
very well and I have a supply.

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Footprint without schematic symbol

 

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I want to use a double-pole switch with centre-off position, and the footprint: Button_Switch_THT:SW_Push_2P2T_Vertical_E-Switch_800UDP8P1A1M6 is good. But I can't find? a schematic symbol for it, only SPDT_MSM for a single-pole version. Do I have to make a new symbol for it? That means delving into the 'user libraries' process, which I find very confusing.

Actually, I am using only one pole, but that switch fits mechanically very well and I have a supply.

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Re: Problemsending data from schematic to PCB

 

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Yes, that was the problem, but the designations need to show in order to put the components in their places.

On 2024-05-18 21:53, Andy wrote:
I agree that this just sounds like the layers are switched off

usually on the right hand side of the window there is a panel with some
tabs Layers Objects Nets 

Select layers and make sure there is an eye symbol and not a stop symbol.

It's quite common to turn off the silkscreen and other layers as they can
cause a lot of mess on screen when you are trying to lay out a board.

Andy

On Sat, 18 May 2024 19:54:52 +0100
"John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

Thank you. I will check that.

On 2024-05-18 19:41, CW via groups.io wrote:
* Double-click a footprint in the PCB editor and make sure 'Show' is
ticked in the relevant field checkboxes.

* Depending upon which board layers you have set to Visible, you may or
may not see certain text items. Check, for example, whether Fab and
Silkscreen layers are 'Off'.

On 5/18/2024 11:00 AM, John Woodgate wrote:  
I have drawn a schematic and corrected all the errors. When I switch to
PCB, the footprints appear but no designations and other text for them.
I cannot find any setting that would make the designations visible or
not. Please advise.

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Re: Problemsending data from schematic to PCB

 

I agree that this just sounds like the layers are switched off

usually on the right hand side of the window there is a panel with some
tabs Layers Objects Nets

Select layers and make sure there is an eye symbol and not a stop symbol.

It's quite common to turn off the silkscreen and other layers as they can
cause a lot of mess on screen when you are trying to lay out a board.

Andy

On Sat, 18 May 2024 19:54:52 +0100
"John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

Thank you. I will check that.

On 2024-05-18 19:41, CW via groups.io wrote:
* Double-click a footprint in the PCB editor and make sure 'Show' is
ticked in the relevant field checkboxes.

* Depending upon which board layers you have set to Visible, you may or
may not see certain text items. Check, for example, whether Fab and
Silkscreen layers are 'Off'.

On 5/18/2024 11:00 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
I have drawn a schematic and corrected all the errors. When I switch to
PCB, the footprints appear but no designations and other text for them.
I cannot find any setting that would make the designations visible or
not. Please advise.

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Re: Problemsending data from schematic to PCB

 

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Thank you. I will check that.

On 2024-05-18 19:41, CW via groups.io wrote:
* Double-click a footprint in the PCB editor and make sure 'Show' is 
ticked in the relevant field checkboxes.

* Depending upon which board layers you have set to Visible, you may or 
may not see certain text items. Check, for example, whether Fab and 
Silkscreen layers are 'Off'.

On 5/18/2024 11:00 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
I have drawn a schematic and corrected all the errors. When I switch to 
PCB, the footprints appear but no designations and other text for them. 
I cannot find any setting that would make the designations visible or 
not. Please advise.

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Re: Problemsending data from schematic to PCB

 

* Double-click a footprint in the PCB editor and make sure 'Show' is
ticked in the relevant field checkboxes.

* Depending upon which board layers you have set to Visible, you may or
may not see certain text items. Check, for example, whether Fab and
Silkscreen layers are 'Off'.

On 5/18/2024 11:00 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
I have drawn a schematic and corrected all the errors. When I switch to
PCB, the footprints appear but no designations and other text for them.
I cannot find any setting that would make the designations visible or
not. Please advise.

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Problemsending data from schematic to PCB

 

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I have drawn a schematic and corrected all the errors. When I switch to PCB, the footprints appear but no designations and other text for them. I cannot find any setting that would make the designations visible or not. Please advise.

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Re: Power flag problem

 

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You can place a PWR_FLAG symbol on the relevant net. You can find this in symbol folder called "Power". Usually, GND also needs one.

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On 18/05/2024 13:26, John Woodgate wrote:

I have a schematic that does not have a power source, it comes from a connector. I have labelled the power wires +VDC #PWR01 and -VDC #PWR02, but Electrical Rules Check gives the 'Input power pin not driven ...' error message for both. How can I fix this?


Re: Power flag problem

 

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Thank you. My problem cam from opening the power symbol list by clicking on the 'earth/ground' icon. The list that opened did not show the PWR_FLG symbol, but later it appeared. I suppose the list did not fully load.

On 2024-05-18 13:19, Robert via groups.io wrote:
You need to connect a power flag symbol to each of the two wires.
You'll find it in the standard symbol libraries (it looks like a lollipop).

Regards,

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Re: Power flag problem

 

You need to connect a power flag symbol to each of the two wires.
You'll find it in the standard symbol libraries (it looks like a lollipop).

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Power flag problem

 

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I have a schematic that does not have a power source, it comes from a connector. I have labelled the power wires +VDC #PWR01 and -VDC #PWR02, but Electrical Rules Check gives the 'Input power pin not driven ...' error message for both. How can I fix this?

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Re: DB15 connector symbol

 

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Indeed. For some reason, they all got to be called 'DB', perhaps because the 25-contact size shell was so widely used. And before the high-density range was introduced, the pin-count and shell-size were 1-to -1 matched.

On 2024-05-17 21:28, Donald H Locker via groups.io wrote:

Oops; I actually lied. The SHELL size is indicated by the character after the D; turns out that there are multiple pin densities that can be fitted to each shell size.

Donald.

On 2024-05-17 16:26, Donald H Locker wrote:

D-submini connectors use the character after the "D" to indicate pin count:

DA=15-contact
DB=25-contact
DC=37-contact
DD=50-contact
DE=9-contact

Donald.

On 2024-05-17 10:00, John Woodgate wrote:

Ah! I found it. I didn't expect the unpopular but correct DA prefix to be used.

On 2024-05-17 14:46, John Woodgate wrote:

Is there anywhere a symbol for the DB15 15-contact connector? I know that I could make one, but its geometry is not simple.

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Re: DB15 connector symbol

 

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Oops; I actually lied. The SHELL size is indicated by the character after the D; turns out that there are multiple pin densities that can be fitted to each shell size.

Donald.

On 2024-05-17 16:26, Donald H Locker wrote:

D-submini connectors use the character after the "D" to indicate pin count:

DA=15-contact
DB=25-contact
DC=37-contact
DD=50-contact
DE=9-contact

Donald.

On 2024-05-17 10:00, John Woodgate wrote:

Ah! I found it. I didn't expect the unpopular but correct DA prefix to be used.

On 2024-05-17 14:46, John Woodgate wrote:

Is there anywhere a symbol for the DB15 15-contact connector? I know that I could make one, but its geometry is not simple.

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Re: DB15 connector symbol

 

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D-submini connectors use the character after the "D" to indicate pin count:

DA=15-contact
DB=25-contact
DC=37-contact
DD=50-contact
DE=9-contact

Donald.

On 2024-05-17 10:00, John Woodgate wrote:

Ah! I found it. I didn't expect the unpopular but correct DA prefix to be used.

On 2024-05-17 14:46, John Woodgate wrote:

Is there anywhere a symbol for the DB15 15-contact connector? I know that I could make one, but its geometry is not simple.

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Re: DB15 connector symbol

 

they are all in the connector library under D-Sub

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On Fri, 17 May 2024
14:46:40 +0100 "John Woodgate" <jmw@...> wrote:

Is there anywhere a symbol for the DB15 15-contact connector? I know
that I could make one, but its geometry is not simple.

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Re: DB15 connector symbol

 

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Ah! I found it. I didn't expect the unpopular but correct DA prefix to be used.

On 2024-05-17 14:46, John Woodgate wrote:

Is there anywhere a symbol for the DB15 15-contact connector? I know that I could make one, but its geometry is not simple.

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Re: DB15 connector symbol

 

On 5/17/2024 6:46 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
Is there anywhere a symbol for the DB15 15-contact connector? I know
that I could make one, but its geometry is not simple.

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DB15 connector symbol

 

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Is there anywhere a symbol for the DB15 15-contact connector? I know that I could make one, but its geometry is not simple.

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