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The following items have been added to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /EAR/EAR_messages.log /EAR/EAR_session.log By: @EAR <erik@...> Description: Logfiles to Problem EAR #240916

Hello folks I've been using JMRI for Operations for about 12 years, with good success, thanks in no small part to this forum. I operate a windows 10 system computer with JMRI 5.10 with Java 17. I use a 12 track staging yard which serves a large switching layout representing the Birmingham Industrial District (AL) in the steam era and very early diesel era. The staging tracks hold about 12 to 15 or a few more cars. There are two other smaller C/I yards and 7 interchange tracks, plus individual industries and a steel mill. We have monthly operating sessions. The different trains and staging tracks represent the 9 trunk railroads that served Birmingham in the steam era. Staged trains occupy a designated staging track - they always use the same one and return to the same one. Staging tracks are numbered "-1 or -2", and trains are set for "trains may return to staging". So, a train may leave staging 1-1 and then return to staging 1-2. This has worked fine for years and still does, but with a difference. (The overall goal of the RR's operation is to serve the on-layout steel mill, with multiple trains assembling required materials to deliver to the blast furnaces - not a part of this question. Some trains originate at the two smaller C/I yards, rather than staging.) Since upgrading to version 5.10 a month or two ago, I notice that some trains now show part of a (longer) train with cars going out to the layout and part of that same train being moved from the departure track to the future arrival track in staging. In the past, prior to 5.10, I believe all the cars would leave staging, including those with no destination on the layout, and return to staging. Basically these cars "took a ride" and then returned home. The cars "taking a ride" would be included in the departing train's car count as well as the returning train's car count. I liked having the "extra" cars taking a ride and increasing the interest of the various switching operations, and then returning to staging. As an example, the NB L&N Local Freight, is assigned to staging 1-1, and has 18 cars in staging. The build is successful and shows 9 cars departing for the layout, and 9 cars "moving" from track 1-1 to 1-2. Upon inspection of the build report, I find that these 9 "stay at home" cars have no destination on the layout -- either no room or no allowable location. The 9 cars that do have an available destination go away, get set out and 9 new cars return from the layout. The car count leaving and returning is 9 cars. (It would previously have been 18 out and 18 back) Now, I realize that I could instruct my operators to ignore the "move" instruction for cars remaining/returning to staging, but they get confused about the car count along the train's route. I also realize I can just let the cars sit in staging rather than "go for a ride", but what's the fun in that? There are also situations where the train may rightly move a car from an interchange track to a local industry. This is OK and the car count for the train's advance is "correct". So a "blanket" instruction to operators about ignoring "move" instructions wouldn't work either. So, my question is, "cars returning to staging used to go out on the layout, and take a ride back to staging -- can this be made to happen as it used to?" That is, the "move" instruction would have been a "P/U" instruction for leaving staging, and a "S/O" instruction upon return instead of what I'll call a "move to remain" instruction. Thanks for the help. John Stewart Birmingham, AL

JMRI 5.10 on W11 I thought I would experiment with train tracking on a layout editor panel. I found that when the loco IDs are placed near a block that there is no indication that something has been placed there. After a train has passed through that area then tiny little blocks show up on the panel in edit mode (if everything was done correctly). This makes me grumpy. George

In developing some scripts, I often print to the output, as it helps debug the program. I am noticing that the output is extremely delayed Is there anyway the output can be updated? I use print statements so I can see where the application is currently processing, when I do print, I print the current time and date Then I pause the Script before processing more statements. I use statement like, time.sleep(10) I’m wondering, if using this kind of statement to pause my script causes the output to pause also

I've tried several different ways to get trains to run automatically, but I keep running into ( maybe I should say "creating my own") roadblocks. At 83, I'm not sure how many more wrong ways to do it I can afford to try. I've set signal heads all around the layout. I try to set Blocks, Sections and a Transit to run a train and I get it set to go through several Sections, but then I get to a turnout and it will allow me to set the diverging route out, but the continuing route isn't available. I can't find what's different between the Block on he diverging leg and the one on the continuing leg of the turnout. So, I read some of the JMRI documentation and decided to try using Signal Masts and letting JMRI set up Sections and Transits on the fly. I took a portion of the Panel and deleted the signal heads around a turnout to use the Set Signal Masts menu. It sets the Masts for both routes entering the frog end of the turnout, but there's no option to set a Mast with signals for the points end of the same turnout. Before I waste any more time on rabbit holes, can someone steer me to the easiest way to set up my goals? Or point me at the page in the JMRI documents where I can read the proper steps to take and the order to build it? I'd like to: 1. Be able to send a train autonomously from the modeled layout into a specific staging track. 2. Be able to have trains scheduled to come out of staging into the modeled area at preprogrammed clock times or upon specified events. 3. Be able to manually trigger a train in staging by selecting either the train or the track it's on and select where it needs to go. This forum has been so great thanks to the helpful folks here who have been so willing to share their time and experience.

Can two scripts use the same sensor? Sure i can include then in one script, but just asking. I have one scripted finished controlling signals. The other script I want to control the room lights, the sensor with trigger and API to turn on the room lights.

Hello. I am totally confused on how to do this. I'm using a Lenovo thinkpad and want to move Jmri to a newer Dell laptop. I'm using Jmri 5.8 and java 11. I have read the the files I need to move are in the preferences under file locations. The "users file location" name is C:/users/usr/JMRI/. When I open that file, how do I move it to the new laptop that has JMRI loaded on to it. I am the furthest from be a computer guy and do not want to start all over as it has taken more than 3 yrs. to set up panel pro with track diagram, block detection, signal etc. Could someone please help me using the most layman terms to explain how to do this. My comprehension of computer terms is very small. Thank in advance for any help. -- MARK TAYLOR

jmri 5.11 Java 17 windows 11 Panel pro gurus, I have 4 separate Layout Editor panels I'd like to make 1control panel to operate/dispatch the layout... can this be done? John Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified -- Sent from my gosh darn droid! Please excuse the fat finger mistakes... John

Is there a way to keep my model board “as-is” while reconfiguring some of the columns? David Olesen Hackettstown NJ

I remover JAVA 11 and installed JAVA 17 then JMRI 5.10, Would not open or start. Then JMRI 5.11.4 Would not open or start. I have used windows JMRI for loading a new JMRI. I been using JMRI for years. Due to getting hit by fraud my CU had me clear every thing off this computer and reload the applications and files. What to do? Jerry F

Folks, I tried the version on Jenkins that includes "Dark Mode" ( JMRI.5.11.4plus+jenkins+20250328T2349Z+R78beda49484) and I found the following: In the "Set Signal Mast" popup: Tthe text is not visible and there is no <blank> available in the signal mast selection drop down. I'll keep checking it out.? Otherwise it meets my needs and works so far. Windows 11 Pro, Java 11. -- Tom Kane Purcellville, VA

When I load decoder pro and attempt to read a new loco the button in the top menu bar which normally shows "ON" switches to "OFF" (or sometimes "UNKNOWN") and the Sprog will not read anything - anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks Matthew

Good evening Moderators and group: My setup: Win10, Digitrax PR3 Digitrax DCS210, DCS50 (throttle/ booster only), DT400, DT500 SE8C x2, BDL16 x2, SE74 x2, DS64 x4, UR90 x2, UP5 Signals are Digitrax SHABC and SH2AB Panel Pro 5.2+R760b98537f, java 11.0.19 The layout is essentially a reversing loop to reversing loop arrangement, with SSL installed over most of the layout and working correctly. I have a Layout Editor panel which correctly displays occupancy, powered turnout positions and signal aspects and correctly match what is displayed on the physical layout. There is 1 powered double slip that I am now trying to add SSL to using the "Set Signal Heads at a Slip" Tool. I used an earlier post by Dave Sand as a guide ... #233359. However, I get the following error: "Cannot set up logic because next signal (in or at the end of block "Block_1" is apparently not yet defined" There are 4 block boundaries defined (the slip is part of Block_1 as well), and signal heads at all of these boundaries. If I try to "Set Signal Heads at a Block Boundary", I get an error message that the signal heads in question are already in use on the layout diagram. I placed most of the signal heads on the layout diagram and created the SSL without using the "Set Signal Heads at a Block Boundary" or other tools ... could this be part of my difficulty? Perhaps it's time to move to SML? I would be grateful for any suggestions as to how to proceed from here. Thank you all, Paul Young