The discussion turned to if the extension method used in the roster would
work to extend the data in the Operations data for cars (and locos?).

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David,
Enzo is correct. I don't need to expand the LOCO roster. I need to expand the CARS roster. Is there a similar fix for the CARS roster?
Paul D

Roster Media pane.....
David, this is working for "Decoder" roster only, so not for the "majority" of CARS.
Enzo

Mike,

Thank you so much for being patient with me.? I have I think worked through what you are saying.? My turnout table has an edit button at the right.? If I press that a new box opens with a set of tabs - basic,feedback, lock ....

Taking the feedback tab I have a list of boxes: my feedback mode is direct (I have no feedback) if I go to turnout automation and set that to RAW I can set 5000 in the interval box (that seems to be the max) and "5 sec" in the name.

This does nothing for me sadly - and I think I have followed your suggestion?

Iain

I first tried doing delays in Logix but it means a lot of changing output statements and didn't always works. Putting the delay in the turnout table has solve almost all the problems to the extent that in a day operation we get ?a few missed aspect instead of 50% before.

As I said you can't change the delay in the Edit Auto unless the selection to the left does not show OFF, then you can change the times, but you have to save that time as a name or it will not take effect. Once saved the name can be selected for other turnouts. I found 50ms repeat delay was enough time delay for the decoders giving 19 different times, the decoders only needed 16 and I repeated them for each decoder. I realisied you may not be seeing the settings as I selected them a different way. They can also be selected by clicking EDIT in the turnout table and then FEEDBACK, select Turnout Automation to anything but Off, enter the Times and Interval and give it a Feedback name. This is the name you can then select in Turnout Automation.

I don't use routes for our modules, it is all done in Logix along with masts for signals, each interlocking is contained in a single logix (lots of conditionals!) to make it easy to add new modules.

Mike

I wrote a route just with the three points in it.? I tried to type into the "additional delay" box - but it won't accept it.? Keeping my finger on the up button I managed to get it to 750 - I believe (?) a total of 1 sec.? That does work - though if you want a delay of 2 seconds forget it!? THe upwards button stops at 1000.?

Progress (?) so far.? As I said - I don't have any feedback - beyond my price range.

I cannot use Routes since I need to set signal MAST aspects (not heads - head settings don't work for SE8C heads and BR2003).? I could? perhaps rewrite all my logix to use routes just for the turnouts.? Then (if my reading is right!) I can set a delay in each route for all turnouts in that route. I haven't tried that because it's labour intensive and destroys what I have done so far - I thought I would try logix first

Logix is odd.? As an example, I have one route with 3 turnouts.? Since I understood (!) that the delay is *before* throwing, I have no delay on the first and I put delays on the second and third turnout actions and a further delay on the subsequent sensor set.? 10 secs delay in each instance. Hence (I tought!) throw 1, delay 10 secs, throw 2, delay 10 secs, throw 3 delay 10 secs.? What I get is throw 1, wait total 30 delay time and then everything gets done at once!? Since that is what I wanted to avoid I am not getting anywhere.

What am I doing wrong?

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WiThrottle, points, blocks on onexAIU all working!?

Excellent.

WiThrottle, points, blocks on onexAIU all working!?
I will continue to put in another AIU and it is numbered number 9.
Still not sure what to do about jumpers on USB or if itvis V6 or v7 but l assume that is nothing to worry about now.
I'll try to connect the laptop and post another console report but I feel like everything mix fine now.?
Thanks everyone for your support.?

Roland,

Based on your description, I'm assuming that the behaviour you're looking for is that Function 2 activates, and stays active, while you're holding down the upper-left button, and then de-activates when you release the button.

Assuming that is a correct understanding, that's not something we currently support on the ESU MobileControl II.

The reason is due to a hardware limitation (certainly on the device upon which I did the development).

A bit of technical background. When pressing a key, be it physical or virtual, a keydown event is generated. This is then followed by a keyup event (usually) when the key is released. For some reason, the ESU MobileControl II almost immediately generates the keyup event even if the button is still held down. As a result, it's impossible for us to detect if the button is being held down or not.

What we could do is to use a toggle mechanism whereby a first press of the side button activates the function and a second press of the same button deactivates. Not quite as slick an operation, but it could be a workaround.

Now it's possible that this hardware limitation is only on my device (or a limited sub-set of all devices) but, based on your report, that seems less likely.

I hope that makes sense and give a better understanding of what's happening.

Best regards,

Matt H

4 to 8

How silly. Of course it must be because I changed the sensor codes from 4 to 5! I have yet to change them in the sensors table. I will have a go now achanging the sensors to 8 and latercwill again plug in AIU 9 which I have temporarily disconnected to simplify things.

I'd say that is because your sensors are still reading AIU 4 (NS48 to NS61).

You'd see that in the NCE Command Monitor.

Non-existent AIU sensors report as occupied.

You are going to have to delete and recreate those sensors.
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Dave in Australia

Also all good.
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Dave in Australia

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Thanks Dave, Jim and Ken. I have all wiThrottle and laptop going now. I lost the plastic cover that went over the jumpers and am left with 8 steel rods sticking out of the circuit board.

Don't worry about that now. You are working with the current setup.It would have actually been 4 separate jumper shunts. They are easily obtainable:

Now to make things more fun all the sensors are showing active! All blocks show occupied. The lights on the AIU are all correct, only the Layout shows faulty.?
Slowly, slowly,
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Thanks Dave, Jim and Ken. I have all wiThrottle and laptop going now. I lost the plastic cover that went over the jumpers and am left with 8 steel rods sticking out of the circuit board.
I don't know how to copy your post Dave but;
All JMRI preferences are as you said except serial port which is ttyUSB0 and that is the only one that works.
Baud rate is 9600
NCE show all cabs shows 2, 3, 8 and 9, 3 being the ProCab, USB, AIU and AIU.
I will post a console log now just because I can, and will turn off and restart Power Cab then start JMRI and look again at the consol log looking for V7.3.0.
All preferences are always staying on NCE. I have not seen them change for months and am checking them often.
LED's are not stuck on the USB interface. I am still unsure whether it is a V6 or V7.
Thanks men. Thanks a lot. I'd buy you a beer or when your in Tassie drop in for one.
I have turned off Start up Panel just because I could.

2018-11-08 17:45:38,363 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:38,405 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Toshiba laptop\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:38,407 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Toshiba laptop\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:38,423 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - PanelPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_151 on Windows Vista x86 v6.0 at Thu Nov 08 17:45:38 AEDT 2018 [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:39,388 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f558d63 [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:40,694 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using jmri-dNQe-cAGbhNiaaacjEYECc-3f558d63 as the JMRI Node identity [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-11-08 17:45:41,052 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:41,705 usbdriver.UsbDriverAdapter??????????? INFO? - NCE USB COM4 port opened at 9600 baud [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:41,923 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? INFO? - NCE EPROM revision = 7.3.0 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-11-08 17:45:43,740 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files\JMRI\ [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:43,743 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Toshiba laptop\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:43,749 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Toshiba laptop\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:43,760 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Toshiba laptop\JMRI\ [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:43,761 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Toshiba laptop\ [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:43,761 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Users\Toshiba laptop\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:45,050 server.WebServer????????????????????? INFO? - Starting Web Server on port 12080 [WebServer]
2018-11-08 17:45:45,886 PanelPro.PanelPro???????????????????? INFO? - Main initialization done [main]
2018-11-08 17:45:46,234 server.WebServer????????????????????? INFO? - Starting ZeroConfService _http._tcp.local for Web Server with properties {path=/, json=4.1} [WebServer]
2018-11-08 17:45:53,104 withrottle.FacelessServer???????????? INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'richard's railroad._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 192.168.1.15:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2018-11-08 17:45:53,105 withrottle.FacelessServer???????????? INFO? - Creating new WiThrottle DeviceServer(socket) on port 12090, waiting for incoming connection... [WiThrottleServer]

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Hi Mitchell
As far as I can tell the only thing that I can see is that there is a stopping sensor that never gets fired for 50037 so it rolls on into the crossover. Try removing the stopping sensors from the sections.
I tried emailing you last week but it was returned as undeliverable.
Steve G.

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