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Ooops...my bad. I was not thinking clearly about spur visits. OpsPro will automatically include all the spurs at City-C thus Train-B will make the stop at City-C and then make a single "move" to leave while the City-C switcher makes all the car exchanges for Train-B at City-C.
Paul D

Scott....I like it but I have some questions...
1) When Train-B visits City-C, it seem like Train-B must include each City-C spur in the Train-B route to ensure that cars are placed properly in the OpsPro data base. Otherwise, OpsPro would lose track of where cars are located. I am assuming that this would be a spur visit by Train-B in theory only rather than physically while the City-C switcher (as a stand in for the Train-B loco) would be making the physical visit to the City-C spurs.
2) I am assuming that when multiple trains make pick up & drop off, they must make their visits in the same order they were built since the second train is assuming that all the first train exchanges were made before the second train arrived.?
3) It appears that your approach puts the City-C switcher in a "just-in-time" mode.? When Train-B arrives at City-C, the switcher operator must step into action and make all the spur visits while the Train-B "moves" as each switcher spur action is completed. When the switcher makes the final City-C move, Train-B is free to move to his next destination.

If I am correct on 1, 2 and 3, your suggestion is really good. It means fewer trains to build to get the same job done. It also means I do not need a bunch of sidings as a named location for Train-B to visit.

I can see where this approach will also help me in exchanging cars (via my 0-5-0 switcher) that are logically part of my layout but are physically in off-layout storage racks. I have a lot of off-layout spurs with industries that I need as a companion to some on-layout industries.

Thanks.
Paul D

Roger,

It is possible that the JMRI installer did not remove old versions of some components.

Try doing a clean install: Use the Windows Control Panel to remove any JMRI versions. Manually check C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) for residual JMRI directories and delete them. Your data is at C:\Users\<username>\JMRI. It will not be affected. A good backup is always recommended.

Dave Sand

Dan and Martin,

Ok Klaus. Thanks. Mario

I have noticed that after a fresh start.. with or without reboot of Pi.. I have to switch track power off/on at least once before any throttle data is actually at the rails.. even though power is on at startup configuration.?

Thinking all this might be endemic to some of the other warnings and things we see with SPROG-Pi and SPROG-1. Our SPROG3''s might also be affected.


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RockPro - San Diego, CA
Raspi2 B+,?SPROG3, LocoBuffer USB, BDL168 & 10 switches on a 4x8

that's kinda what I gathered from reading the manual. So an operator builds a train from the switch list, hands it over to the nest operator that takes it to the next city and drops the train off on the arrival track where the local switcher delivers the cars.

Martin,

Most would agree that you and your operators should decide which arrival and departure tracks to use rather than the program.? Here's the link to the help:



Dan

The error message below indicates that there’s a problem accessing a library that JMRI needs. It’s usually part of the JMRI distribution, and lives in the “lib” directory within JMRI.

Not sure what caused the problem, but this might be one of those rare cases where a reinstall of JMRI can actually fix something!

Bob

The error message below says that the "Roberts Layout31.xml” file in the "D:Layouts JMRI” directory could not be read because the name “LT11 DS TR” was defined for two different things. One is near line 2801 (but the line counts can be wrong in some cases). Mostly likely, you have somehow gotten the Simple Signal Logic for something defined twice.

You can _temporarily_ bypass this, which will let you load/fix/save the file, by setting your preferences to run the jython/TurnOffXmlValidation.py _before_ loading the file. (Or, if you’re loading it from the menu, i.e. manually, first run that script)

Bob

Ken,
Will not work in PE mode. I can add a regular turnout in PE with no problem and I can get the double cross icon window to show up but the "Add to Panel" button is grayed out and will not do anything.? I am running 4.13.5.
Side note....I was told earlier that an icon supported in PE but not in CPE will not convert to CPE. I hope that is wrong.
Paul D

I am unable to launch this latest version of JMRI Decoder Pro.
I downloaded the latest version and it seems to install OK. I have also installed the latest version of Java. I am running Windows 10 on a 64 bit system.
When I launch Decoder pro, I get the following error response.
"Unrecoverable error encountered.
This application will quit.

java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: javax.help.SwingHelpUtilities.setContentViewerUI(Ljava/lang/String:v
at apps.jui3.Apps3.initialiazerHelpSytem(Apps3.java:141
at apps.jui3.Apps3.<init>(Apps3.java98)
at apps.jui3.dp3.DecoderPro3.<init>(DecoderPro3.java:27)
at apps.jui3.dp3.DecoderPro3.main(DecoderPro3.java:96)"

So this seems like a Java problem. I had previously installed Decoder Pro version 4.6 and this worked OK. Can anyone help?
Roger Lloyd

Hi Dave & Cliff

Tried to understand Dave's scripts... but I'm not a programmer so scripts are not of much use.

First off.. Connection Prefix is "L" for Digitrax on both computers.
I have modified both computers to have only the default settings by completely uninstalling 4.12, deleting all JMRI folders "everywhere" except registry and then reinstalling the program on both. (I did keep my 'layout'.xml files and selected the c:\program files directory on the Win7 to keep that variable the same.)

The application works perfectly using simulate on both. I have not connected the LocoBuffer-USB at all.

The file D:\Layouts JMRI\Roberts Layout31.xml loads on the Win7 without errors [debug xml reports OK too]. The Signal Table is fully populated.

I noticed one signal head was missing in the table so I added it. I used the correct user name [D Main B CCW], SEC8 4 Aspect and the correct turnout codes for the aspects [919 & 920]. Then I saved the entry. It was correctly processed.

I then closed the table and saved the configuration & panel. Shut down the program to restart PanelPro. I came up OK. When I loaded the layout again, the program reported an error and when I clicked on OK, it closed down.

Here is the log:

2018-12-03 17:16:33,135 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:33,166 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Robert\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:33,166 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Robert\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:33,198 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - PanelPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_151 on Windows 7 amd64 v6.1 at Mon Dec 03 17:16:33 SGT 2018 [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:34,088 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile My_JMRI_Railroad.3f2ad5f8 [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:34,713 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using jmri-flM1ndZMrhNiaa5aGQeR91-3f2ad5f8 as the JMRI Node identity [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-12-03 17:16:36,432 loconet.LnPacketizer????????????????? INFO? - lnPacketizer Started [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:36,573 hexfile.LnHexFilePort???????????????? INFO? - LocoNet Simulator Started [LocoNet HexFileFrame]
2018-12-03 17:16:37,083 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files\JMRI\ [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:37,085 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is D:\Layouts JMRI\ [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:37,086 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Robert\JMRI\My_JMRI_Railroad\ [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:37,086 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Robert\JMRI\ [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:37,087 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Robert\ [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:37,087 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files\JMRI\jython\ [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:39,133 PanelPro.PanelPro???????????????????? INFO? - Main initialization done [main]
2018-12-03 17:16:53,181 configurexml.ErrorHandler???????????? ERROR - Parse error while parsing file /D:/Layouts%20JMRI/Roberts%20Layout31.xml Exception: org.jdom2.input.JDOMParseException: Error on line 2801: cvc-identity-constraint.4.2.2: Duplicate key value [LT11 DS TR] declared for identity constraint "signalElementName" of element "signalelements".
See for possibly more information. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
org.jdom2.input.JDOMParseException: Error on line 2801: cvc-identity-constraint.4.2.2: Duplicate key value [LT11 DS TR] declared for identity constraint "signalElementName" of element "signalelements".
?at org.jdom2.input.sax.SAXBuilderEngine.build(SAXBuilderEngine.java:232)
?at org.jdom2.input.sax.SAXBuilderEngine.build(SAXBuilderEngine.java:253)
?at org.jdom2.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:1091)
?at jmri.jmrit.XmlFile.getRoot(XmlFile.java:197)
?at jmri.jmrit.XmlFile.rootFromURL(XmlFile.java:182)
?at jmri.configurexml.ConfigXmlManager.loadOnSwingThread(ConfigXmlManager.java:646)
?at jmri.configurexml.ConfigXmlManager.lambda$1(ConfigXmlManager.java:604)
?at jmri.util.ThreadingUtil.runOnGUIwithReturn(ThreadingUtil.java:152)
?at jmri.configurexml.ConfigXmlManager.load(ConfigXmlManager.java:602)
?at jmri.implementation.JmriConfigurationManager.load(JmriConfigurationManager.java:231)
?at jmri.implementation.JmriConfigurationManager.load(JmriConfigurationManager.java:170)
?at jmri.implementation.JmriConfigurationManager.load(JmriConfigurationManager.java:160)
?at jmri.configurexml.LoadXmlConfigAction.loadFile(LoadXmlConfigAction.java:52)
?at jmri.configurexml.LoadXmlUserAction.actionPerformed(LoadXmlUserAction.java:44)
?at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI$Handler.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue.access$500(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
?at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
?at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source)
?at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
?at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
?at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; lineNumber: 2801; columnNumber: 249; cvc-identity-constraint.4.2.2:

Layout 31 is a copy of layout 11 which I have not opened or modified so to have a clean file to copy from.

Working on signing up and downloading Dropbox.

Robert

This is my first go at JMRI. I have loaded all my cars, locations, made 2 train and 2 routes. The build works just fine. I have departure and arrival tracks at 3 of my main terminals. I am wondering how I define them in the program. The switch list has my train switching at those teminals also. I live in Bloomington Mn.

Perfect Dave.? Thanks so much.

hi there
is there a decoder pro definition file for massoth decoders
thanks?
keith

Paul,

You can flip between PE and CPE. So flip to PE mode and add your double
crossover. Then flip back to CPE.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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