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Locked Re: Lost my Sensor folder in the Table option

 

I did another install of Test 4.17.3 and that did not fix it either.

I have this also installed on another computer and it has the Tools/Table/Sensor folder.

Dennis


Locked Lost my Sensor folder in the Table option

 

How do I restore my Sensor folder under Tools/Tables?

The Sensors are signed right in the Blocks Folder and everything is working fine.

I did a large cleanup of old JMRI installs and deleted a huge amount of files.

Is there a special place this folder is kept?

I have not purged the old stuff yet.

Dennis


Locked Re: XL Systems Inc.

 

Wire bonding can be as good as any other packaging technique, but I agree, only the most cost sensitive manufactures seem to use it. The first time I saw it used on one my microcontrollers was in an RCA branded universal remote that I picked up at the nearby Walmart for $7 after we heard it was in there. They had used the cheapest, single sided PCB you can imagine and chosen to purchase the micros from our distributor as bare die and wire bond them to the circuit board. By the way, I've always known the official name for the black blob of epoxy is pookey, but that may be a colloquialism like way car or hack or cabin. ;-)
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Have fun,
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Chris Atkins
Argyle, TX
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On 8/29/19 2:13 AM, Alan B. Pearce wrote:

Hmm, different seller to the previous item number, and it is a different item to the previous one as well.

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As to the epoxy covered blobs, Chip On Board (COB) is fine if done correctly, and is especially useful if putting a chip with a lot of connections in a small space.

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On 8/28/19 6:56 PM, John wrote:
Any decoder with a blob of black epoxy I stay away from.
Learned that in my early days of DCC.

It's cheap for a reason.

John


Locked SSL heads fail to set properly after start .... JMRI 4.17.3

 

All,

? ? ?Is it possible I never noticed this before?? ?Both my Raspberry Pi JMRI and Laptop JMRI fails to set my SSL heads after start up.? The SML masts look all right.? I can see all signal heads go to RED, then after all turnouts and unknown sensors get cleared all heads go to green.

? ? Photos added to photo album under "Roger's Bad SSL"

Roger


Locked Re: Help with JMRI and Digitrax PR4

Rich S
 

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Hi Steve,
?? Unplugging and plugging in the USB cable does not fix the issue. That is why I¡¯m wondering if the port settings are correct.
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Cheers,
Rich S.
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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Help with JMRI and Digitrax PR4
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Rich,

I'm not near my layout computer so I can't check the other settings, but the COM port depends on what Windows has assigned. Open Device Manager, expand the ports section, and plug/unplug the PR4 into the SAME USB port.? The COM port number that comes and goes when you do that is the one to use.

Also, I've found that sometimes I have to "reset" my PR4 by removing the USB and power, letting it sit for maybe 30 seconds, then plugging everything back in. That seems to fix the occasional flakiness (which is triggered by, as far as I can tell, by switching between PR4 modes of operation).

HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"


Locked Re: How do I delete simulation panels?

 

Scott,

Tribbles.

1. Open the panels file. [Open Panels...]

2. Delete each unwanted panel.

3. Store the panels file. [Store Panels...] (maybe with a new name, but not necessarily)

This happens because each 'Panels File' saves all of the panels that were active when it was stored. Closing a panel window just hides the panel, it is still active, and will get stored when the Store Panels is selected. Deleting a panel window removes it from the active list, but not from your computer file, so it will simply re-appear the next time that you load panels unless you save the state of things after you have deleted it from active memory.

Dick :)

On 8/28/2019 10:52 PM, scott standley via Groups.Io wrote:
How do I delete panel files from panel pro?

I have JMRI v: 3.10 installed on an HP Pavilion running Linux Mint 17.2. Setup in simulation mode for NCE and C/RMI systems.

A few years ago I started going through the tutorials for putting together panels. Never finished the tutorials or the sample panels.

However I managed to create several partially completed sample panels. I want to clear all of these out of JMRI and start from the beginning of the tutorials, and not have so many panels on file. How would I go about deleting these files from JMRI?

Thanks,
Scott

Thanks,
Scott


Locked Re: Virtual Sound Decoder - Clicks on looped sound files

 

Roberto,

Thanks for the reply.? Looks like i will have to delve deeper into my WavePad Sound Editor program.? As of now I only use it to verify the wav format and listen to the sound.

That's the excitement of this hobby.? I've learned a little about HTML editing and now on to sound editing.? ?Of course, as is said, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing!

Conrad


Locked Re: XL Systems Inc.

 

Jim,

So do they identify themselves as MRC or something else in DecoderPro?

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Virtual Sound Decoder - Clicks on looped sound files

 

looping sounds can be somewhat problematic. As already stated, wave files mst be the same format to avoid problems. Another thing that may help is to establish the? cut in/ cut out points in the wave file when the wave line (in the waveform chart) crosses the zero. This not always guarantees a click free looped sound if the cut point is not positioned at the right spot. Sounds usually have recurring patterns which should be graphically detected in the waveform and the cuts should be strictly made at the beginnings/ ends of these patterns. Sais that, it'snot exact science and results may vary depeidning onthe chosen sound. I already had great success AND big failures at this.
Fiddling is your best ally.

Roberto


Locked Re: XL Systems Inc.

 

I have purchased 5 of these decoders from the seller. XL manufactures the decoders for MRC and come with full warranty , basic instructions shipped in static free bag and return policy is 9$ return shipping. He and 1 other seller are selling these. I put sound in all my Kato F7¡¯s for 30$ each is what he accepted my offer. They are drop in as the only thing that had to be done was remove the 6 mins on the top of the chassis to get the board to sit fully down as with other decoders to slide into the contact areas correctly. But I¡¯m happy so far. Just thought I¡¯d chime in. I model N scale.?




On Thursday, August 29, 2019, 6:34 AM, Richard Stern <rjs8@...> wrote:

Searching within eBay for "ho dcc sound decoder with speaker for proto 2000" hits a bunch of these with different form factors. All about $30-$40.?

Going back to my original question, does JMRI support XL decoders? ?


Locked Re: Web Server, Panel Update for feedback #layouteditor #webserver

Randall Wood
 

Please note that dialogs triggered on the JMRI native panel (regardless of what triggered them) block the panel from updating, so the web panel (from either the /panel or /frame URLs)

  1. does not get any updates until the dialog is dealt with
  2. has no way (without a significant rewrite of the native panel) to be aware of the need to display a dialog or aware of the need to notify an operator to use the native panel
  3. may cause that dialog to be displayed on a JMRI instance where something else is in the front (another panel perhaps)?

These are limitations of bolting a web server onto JMRI and the primary panel developers not developing with the web server in mind (I¡¯ve had one who I won¡¯t call out tell me that the only correct way to address this complexity is to remove the web server).


Locked Re: XL Systems Inc.

 

Searching within eBay for "ho dcc sound decoder with speaker for proto 2000" hits a bunch of these with different form factors. All about $30-$40.?

Going back to my original question, does JMRI support XL decoders? ?


Locked Re: CanExample.py

 

Thank you, Wouter, for your intervention. However, the topic may be closed now as far as I am concerned.

Bob, Paul,

You should have left me in ignorance, a bliss. The more I have learned on the theory of sending Z21 CAN messages the more I don't understand - my fault, no doubt about it - hence I had better not ask any more question. Paul, you were advising me, on practical grounds, against using such messages in my present problem, anyway.

Nevertheless, I am grateful for all your information.

Gabor


Locked Re: XL Systems Inc.

 

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Hmm, different seller to the previous item number, and it is a different item to the previous one as well.

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As to the epoxy covered blobs, Chip On Board (COB) is fine if done correctly, and is especially useful if putting a chip with a lot of connections in a small space.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Stern
Sent: 29 August 2019 02:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] XL Systems Inc.

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It was relisted.?233324627381

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Locked Re: JMRI changes baud rate to 9600 and won't change #cmri

 

Scott,

You will need to use the 4.17.3 test release to run CMRI at speeds other than 9600.

Dave Sand

On Aug 28, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Scott Pandorf <spandorf55@...> wrote:

I am running JMRI on a Windows 10 machine talking to an NCE system (9600 baud), and CMRI (19,200 baud). Although it's not clear to me that there is linkage, I recently upgraded to JMRI 4.16, I didn't notice immediately but a couple of days later it became obvious that the CMRI wasn't initializing. I checked the serial interface, even purchased a USB to RS485 cable in case my Chubb RS232 to RS485 converter card was the source of the problem. Nothing worked, then I looked at the JMRI log (except below):
2019-08-28 18:32:15,741 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:15,787 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\scott\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:15,787 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\scott\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:15,803 apps.Apps INFO - PanelPro version 4.16+R6f9aced starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Wed Aug 28 18:32:15 EDT 2019 [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:23,897 apps.Apps INFO - Starting with profile WVOMCMRI.3f24bebf [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:24,100 node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using jmri-jWj6rcoHWhNiaaabL3psy8-3f24bebf as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f24bebf [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2019-08-28 18:32:24,412 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO - Starting to connect for "C/MRI" [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:24,944 serialdriver.SerialDriverAdapter INFO - COM6 port opened at 9600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true CD: true [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:24,991 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:25,819 serialdriver.SerialDriverAdapter INFO - NCE COM3 port opened at 9600 baud [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:25,928 nce.NceConnectionStatus INFO - NCE EPROM revision = 6.2.1 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,741 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,756 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path preference: is C:\Users\scott\OneDrive\Ohio & Mississippi\WVO&M\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,756 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path profile: is C:\Users\scott\JMRI\WVOMCMRI\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,756 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path settings: is C:\Users\scott\JMRI\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,756 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path home: is C:\Users\scott\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,772 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:29,741 PanelPro.PanelPro INFO - Main initialization done [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:39,037 withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 2600:6c4a:417f:f396:4015:7731:a9ce:b142:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:41,819 withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 2600:6c4a:417f:f396:b4e0:18a:cb98:73f9:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:44,475 withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 192.168.1.146:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:47,194 withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:b4e0:18a:cb98:73f9%eth1:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:49,803 withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 2600:6c4a:417f:f396:d51d:12e3:1d0c:d14:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:49,803 withrottle.FacelessServer INFO - Creating new WiThrottle DeviceServer(socket) on port 12090, waiting for incoming connection... [WiThrottleServer]

Note that COM6 was opened at 9600 baud, now COM6 is the new USB cable and was set up at 19200 baud and the setting in JMRI is 19200, however JMRI is insisting on opening at 9600. To test I set all my CMRI boards and COM6 to 9600 baud and the system does initialize.

Anyone have an idea why the setting of 19200 is not being honored?

Thanks for your help, Scott.

Scott Pandorf
Ohio and Mississippi Railroad


Locked Re: Help with JMRI and Digitrax PR4

 

Rich,

I'm not near my layout computer so I can't check the other settings, but the COM port depends on what Windows has assigned. Open Device Manager, expand the ports section, and plug/unplug the PR4 into the SAME USB port.? The COM port number that comes and goes when you do that is the one to use.

Also, I've found that sometimes I have to "reset" my PR4 by removing the USB and power, letting it sit for maybe 30 seconds, then plugging everything back in. That seems to fix the occasional flakiness (which is triggered by, as far as I can tell, by switching between PR4 modes of operation).

HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"


Locked Re: XL Systems Inc.

 

I'd stay far away.? Googling the UPC they have listed turns up an MRC decoder with a different form factor. Something's definitely fishy...

Steve
"Breezlys"


Locked JMRI changes baud rate to 9600 and won't change #cmri

 

I am running JMRI on a Windows 10 machine talking to an NCE system (9600 baud), and CMRI (19,200 baud).? Although it's not clear to me that there is linkage, I recently upgraded to JMRI 4.16, I didn't notice immediately but a couple of days later it became obvious that the CMRI wasn't initializing.? I checked the serial interface, even purchased a USB to RS485 cable in case my Chubb RS232 to RS485 converter card was the source of the problem.? Nothing worked, then I looked at the JMRI log (except below):
2019-08-28 18:32:15,741 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:15,787 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\scott\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:15,787 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\scott\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:15,803 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - PanelPro version 4.16+R6f9aced starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Wed Aug 28 18:32:15 EDT 2019 [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:23,897 apps.Apps???????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile WVOMCMRI.3f24bebf [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:24,100 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using jmri-jWj6rcoHWhNiaaabL3psy8-3f24bebf as the JMRI storage identity for profile id 3f24bebf [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2019-08-28 18:32:24,412 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "C/MRI" [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:24,944 serialdriver.SerialDriverAdapter????? INFO? - COM6 port opened at 9600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: true CTS: true? CD: true [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:24,991 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:25,819 serialdriver.SerialDriverAdapter????? INFO? - NCE COM3 port opened at 9600 baud [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:25,928 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? INFO? - NCE EPROM revision = 6.2.1 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,741 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,756 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\scott\OneDrive\Ohio & Mississippi\WVO&M\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,756 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\scott\JMRI\WVOMCMRI\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,756 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\scott\JMRI\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,756 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\scott\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:28,772 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:29,741 PanelPro.PanelPro???????????????????? INFO? - Main initialization done [main]
2019-08-28 18:32:39,037 withrottle.FacelessServer???????????? INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 2600:6c4a:417f:f396:4015:7731:a9ce:b142:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:41,819 withrottle.FacelessServer???????????? INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 2600:6c4a:417f:f396:b4e0:18a:cb98:73f9:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:44,475 withrottle.FacelessServer???????????? INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 192.168.1.146:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:47,194 withrottle.FacelessServer???????????? INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on fe80:0:0:0:b4e0:18a:cb98:73f9%eth1:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:49,803 withrottle.FacelessServer???????????? INFO? - Published ZeroConf service for 'west virginia ohio & mississippi._withrottle._tcp.local.' on 2600:6c4a:417f:f396:d51d:12e3:1d0c:d14:12090 [WiThrottleServer]
2019-08-28 18:32:49,803 withrottle.FacelessServer???????????? INFO? - Creating new WiThrottle DeviceServer(socket) on port 12090, waiting for incoming connection... [WiThrottleServer]

Note that COM6 was opened at 9600 baud, now COM6 is the new USB cable and was set up at 19200 baud and the setting in JMRI is 19200, however JMRI is insisting on opening at 9600.? To test I set all my CMRI boards and COM6 to 9600 baud and the system does initialize.

Anyone have an idea why the setting of 19200 is not being honored?

Thanks for your help, Scott.

Scott Pandorf
Ohio and Mississippi Railroad


Locked How do I delete simulation panels?

 

How do I delete panel files from panel pro?

I have JMRI v: 3.10 installed on an HP Pavilion running Linux Mint 17.2. Setup in simulation mode for NCE and C/RMI systems.

A few years ago I started going through the tutorials for putting together panels. Never finished the tutorials or the sample panels.

However I managed to create several partially completed sample panels. I want to clear all of these out of JMRI and start from the beginning of the tutorials, and not have so many panels on file. How would I go about deleting these files from JMRI?

Thanks,
Scott

Thanks,
Scott


Locked Re: XL Systems Inc.

Stephen Lowens
 

The look like MRC decoders to me.

Steve Lowens