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Locked Decoder Pro Digitrax programers

Michael Mosher
 

I really like Decoder Pro but there's a few mis classifications of Digitrax
decoders. The DN140, DN144K, DN145K, DN146A, DN147A & DN148K are listed in
the Digitrax STD decoders but they are really FX decoders without BEMF. I
think a new directory called "Digitrax FX decoders" or "Digitrax FX decoders
without BEMF" needs to be created and those decoders moved there. Also the
DN146A (and I suspect the others as well) do not have the FX lighting CVs in
the Function tab. Also there's a DN146 and DN146A entries, the DN146 is
redundant, same decoder. The DH083 is listed in the Digitrax FX with BEMF
dir, but this decoder does not have BEMF, thou it is an FX decoder, should
be moved to the above dir. One more little thing, the DH150 is in a dir by
itself, since there not likely to ever be any more 150's and since it's a FX
without BEMF decoder maybe it should be moved and that dir removed for
efficiency sake. Thanks.

Michael Mosher
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Locked Re: Making or fixing Decoder files

 

Oops, I lied, I have a DN148K for my RS-2 -- but if I get good at doing it,
I'll do the 149 too :-)
David

Alex Shepherd wrote:

LE0511W, DN149K, and an early DN series.
Great, I have two DN149K2s (all I have!!!) so when you are done I'll give
them a shot

Now I just select DN142 Family and it works fine, except the Ident doesn't
know about DN149K2s (yet) so here's hoping David

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Locked Re: Making or fixing Decoder files

Alex Shepherd
 

LE0511W, DN149K, and an early DN series.
Great, I have two DN149K2s (all I have!!!) so when you are done I'll give
them a shot

Now I just select DN142 Family and it works fine, except the Ident doesn't
know about DN149K2s (yet) so here's hoping David

Alex


Locked Making or fixing Decoder files

 

Hi Bob -
I have discovered:
-- I will see if I can add some decoders, and fix some. I have LE077,
LE0511W, DN149K, and an early DN series.
David


Locked Re: Test version 1.0.2 hopefully fixes panel icons

Robin Becker
 

Bob,

Looks great to me! Think you now have 1-button speed curve solutions
knocked cold.

Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Jacobsen [mailto:Bob_Jacobsen@...]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:59 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Test version 1.0.2 hopefully fixes panel icons


At 7:37 PM -0700 7/29/02, Robin Becker wrote:
>The "constant ratio" (quadratic?) curve
>takes care of the "exponential" type response, suggest you also consider
a
>log curve. I've found that log speed curves are very useful for
providing
>responsiveness at low speed while also smoothly limiting the top end
>response of a loco.

Something like this?



Bob


Locked Re: Test version 1.0.2 hopefully fixes panel icons

 

At 7:37 PM -0700 7/29/02, Robin Becker wrote:
The "constant ratio" (quadratic?) curve
takes care of the "exponential" type response, suggest you also consider a
log curve. I've found that log speed curves are very useful for providing
responsiveness at low speed while also smoothly limiting the top end
response of a loco.
Something like this?



Bob
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Locked Re: Test version 1.0.2 hopefully fixes panel icons

Robin Becker
 

Bob,

The speed table is looking very snazzy! Especially like the ability to set
the endpoints and then fit a curve. The "constant ratio" (quadratic?) curve
takes care of the "exponential" type response, suggest you also consider a
log curve. I've found that log speed curves are very useful for providing
responsiveness at low speed while also smoothly limiting the top end
response of a loco.

Robin


Locked Test version 1.0.2 hopefully fixes panel icons

 

I've uploaded a new Windows installer 1.0.2:



This contains the (hoped for) fix to the installer so the program can find its icons when creating a "Panel Editor" frame.

Note that there's still a problem with the _size_ of the panel created; for reasons I don't yet understand, on some machines it's minimized down to just the top border. You'll need to grab the lower right corner and expand it to see what you're doing.

Bob
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Locked Re: New test version

Alex Shepherd
 

I'm impressed! You and Alex have done a fantastic job at capturing my
rendition of the Speed Curve table.
I only changes the font size - Bob did all the hard work...

Alex


Locked Re: Can't program with DB150

 

Yes, the problems are with 'writing' -- I was aware I couldn't read with the
DB150 -- I suspect I have old firmware, so I will download and upgrade to the
latest.
David

Bob Jacobsen wrote:

At 2:35 PM -0700 7/29/02, David Harris wrote:
Hi Bob & John -- and the rest-
I finally got some time to try this out. I upgraded the Java to 1.4,
but then DecoderPro couldn't find any ports! It was ok after a fresh
install.
The install adds some libraries to your Java install directory. When
you install _another_ Java, it creates new Java directories alongside
the original ones (this is so you can "easily" drop back to the old
one). But those new ones are missing the JMRI installer's files, so
you have to run that installer again.

Anyway, the Loconet monitor works, as does the Power tool. However, the
Programmer does not --- complains it times out talking to the DB150.
I have one of the earlier Locobuffers, so maybe I need to upgrade the
firmware? John - do you know what version I have?
The DB150 (Empire Builder) can't read from the programming track. It
just doesn't have the electronics to do it. And it doesn't provide a
reliable way to know that when you ask it to read; it just refuses to
reply.

So if you're having timeouts when you do a read (e.g. hit an ident or
"read sheet" button), that's regrettably normal. If you select DB150
as your command station on the preferences pane, it will at least
disable those buttons.

If you're having timeouts when attempting to write to the decoder
(e.g. a "write sheet" button), then something else has gone wrong.

Bob

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Locked Re: New test version

original_black_bart
 

Bob,

I'm impressed! You and Alex have done a fantastic job at capturing my
rendition of the Speed Curve table. Thanks for adding the labels and
speed curve function buttons. Programming my decoders is becoming a
whole lot easier.

I noticed that you're looking for someone to test out programming for
a DZ121 decoder. I've one installed here and would be happy to assist.

Bob


--- In jmriusers@y..., Bob Jacobsen <Bob_Jacobsen@l...> wrote:
I've uploaded a new test installer for Windows. Let me know if
anybody wants a .zip file for Linux or Macintosh.

Features:

*) Fixes to TCS decoder definition, thanks to Jon Miller. Fix minor
typos in other labels.

*) DecoderPro speed table now has editable numbers, thanks to Alex
Shepherd.
Speed table also has three new buttons for setting various curves.

*) New "speedometer" tool in JmriDemo program (development menu).
I'd
love to know if it works for LocoNet users...

*) Control panel tool, see

*) Fixes to serial port error checking and recovery; you'll now get
a
dialog box for certain easy errors.

*) Roster file handling improved; now remembers the last directory
you used (until program is restarted), starts in the user
preferences
directory.

Some of the error handling code is experimental, and feedback would
be greatly appreciated.

The installer can be downloaded from



or the usual SourceForge mirrors.

Bob

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Locked Re: Can't program with DB150

 

At 2:35 PM -0700 7/29/02, David Harris wrote:
Hi Bob & John -- and the rest-
I finally got some time to try this out. I upgraded the Java to 1.4,
but then DecoderPro couldn't find any ports! It was ok after a fresh
install.
The install adds some libraries to your Java install directory. When you install _another_ Java, it creates new Java directories alongside the original ones (this is so you can "easily" drop back to the old one). But those new ones are missing the JMRI installer's files, so you have to run that installer again.

Anyway, the Loconet monitor works, as does the Power tool. However, the
Programmer does not --- complains it times out talking to the DB150.
I have one of the earlier Locobuffers, so maybe I need to upgrade the
firmware? John - do you know what version I have?
The DB150 (Empire Builder) can't read from the programming track. It just doesn't have the electronics to do it. And it doesn't provide a reliable way to know that when you ask it to read; it just refuses to reply.

So if you're having timeouts when you do a read (e.g. hit an ident or "read sheet" button), that's regrettably normal. If you select DB150 as your command station on the preferences pane, it will at least disable those buttons.

If you're having timeouts when attempting to write to the decoder (e.g. a "write sheet" button), then something else has gone wrong.

Bob

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Locked Can't program with DB150

 

Hi Bob & John -- and the rest-
I finally got some time to try this out. I upgraded the Java to 1.4,
but then DecoderPro couldn't find any ports! It was ok after a fresh
install.
Anyway, the Loconet monitor works, as does the Power tool. However, the
Programmer does not --- complains it times out talking to the DB150.
I have one of the earlier Locobuffers, so maybe I need to upgrade the
firmware? John - do you know what version I have?
Thanks, David


Locked Re: New User

Lab_Monkee
 

Hello Bob,

Sure! What do I need to do? I have a couple of DZ121's on
and installed in locomotives.

Jose

--- In jmriusers@y..., Bob Jacobsen <Bob_Jacobsen@l...> wrote:
At 12:03 AM +0000 7/29/02, Lab_Monkee wrote:
Also, will the Digitrax DZ121 be included in a future
release or is there an equivalent already on the list?
I don't have one of those, so can only work from the datasheet off
the web. But it looks possible. The DH120 looks somewhat similar,
though the DZ121 only seems to have paged mode.

Would you be willing to try one out if I put a file together?

Bob
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Locked Re: New User

 

At 12:03 AM +0000 7/29/02, Lab_Monkee wrote:
Also, will the Digitrax DZ121 be included in a future
release or is there an equivalent already on the list?
I don't have one of those, so can only work from the datasheet off the web. But it looks possible. The DH120 looks somewhat similar, though the DZ121 only seems to have paged mode.

Would you be willing to try one out if I put a file together?

Bob
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Locked Re: New test version

 

At 11:18 AM -0700 7/29/02, Jim Hanna wrote:

Under "Preferences", which box should be checked in the "GUI" line.
I run Windows 98, should I check the Windows box?
The "Windows" button will make the buttons, labels, etc look like Windows widgets.

The choices you see there vary with the type of computer. On Linux, the "Motif" or "CDA" choice gives you something that looks native (depending on how your Linux box is set up). On the Macintosh, there are a couple of different varieties that let you match different Macintosh eras.

The "Metal" choice is the native Java look, which will sometimes fit more on the screen and may look more self-consistent. It's always available, and is the best bet if weird stuff is happening on the screen. Nobody thinks it's beautiful, though.

Bob

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Locked Re: New test version

 

Hi-
The GUI is a preference, choose which ever one you like best. If you
want to keep Windows-like, then chose that one.
Cheers, David

--- In jmriusers@y..., "Jim Hanna" <oartrack1@c...> wrote:
David:

Thanks. It installed OK when I simply dbl clicked the jmri...exe.

New question:

Under "Preferences", which box should be checked in the "GUI" line.
I run Windows 98, should I check the Windows box?

Thanks again,

Jim Hanna



Locked Re: New test version

Jim Hanna
 

David:

Thanks. It installed OK when I simply dbl clicked the jmri...exe.

New question:

Under "Preferences", which box should be checked in the "GUI" line.
I run Windows 98, should I check the Windows box?

Thanks again,

Jim Hanna


Locked Re: New test version

Jim Hanna
 

Hi Bob:

What is the command to install the new jmri.1.0.1.exe from a CD? I have tried E:&#92;startup & e:&#92;install but get error msg.

Jim Hanna
El Cajon, CA


Locked Re: New test version

 

Just execute the file (it is an exe afterall), and it will do an install.
David

Jim Hanna wrote:

Hi Bob:

What is the command to install the new jmri.1.0.1.exe from a CD? I have tried E:&#92;startup & e:&#92;install but get error msg.

Jim Hanna
El Cajon, CA




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