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Re: The CV panel is (no longer) broken
User test report: checked out v1.05 today and the CV panel appears to work
fine. Thank you Bob. Bob, The 1.05 install (and uninstall) seemed to run fine on my work PC. Cheers Alex
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Re: The CV panel is (no longer) broken
User test report: checked out v1.05 today and the CV panel appears to work
fine. Thank you Bob.
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Re: Decoder Pro Database - An Update
Here is my entire fleet or 2 loco's with the same decoders... Name of Manufacturer Digitrax Decoder Model Number DN149K2 Plug n Pray Decoder Type Mobile Value of CV7 241 Value of CV8 129 Cheers Alex
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Decoder Pro Database - An Update
A quick note to Decoder Pro Database contributors; all updates
received to date have been added to the online database. In cases
where the provided information was already on file, your name was
added to the contributors list. Thank you for contributing and keep
the data coming.
For those who haven't done so but wish to contribute, please forward
your decoder data to me at decoderpro_id_program@...
Be sure to include the following information;
Name of Manufacturer
Decoder Model Number (Name)
Decoder Type (Mobile, Stationary, Accessory)
Value of CV7
Value of CV8
Your contact information
Comments on the manufacturer, version or behaviour of the decoder.
Bob
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Re: The CV pane is broken, looking for more problems
I have not had any
trouble but he was using Soundtraxx LC and I don't have those. Not
sure if that makes any difference or not. Jon & Bob... Just a note...the CV panel problems I encountered occur no matter which programmer I use. Aloha, Jim
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Re: The CV pane is broken, looking for more problems
I generally go there to just read CV7 and CV8. I have not had any
trouble but he was using Soundtraxx LC and I don't have those. Not sure if
that makes any difference or not.
Bob, how are things. Is you dad improving?
Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS
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The CV pane is broken, looking for more problems
Sorry to have fallen behind in the email, there have been some other things going on at this end.
You're right, the CV pane is really broken. I'm away from my layout until (probably) Wednesday, so can't check everything, there seem to be a number of problems:
a) The "Read Sheet", "Read All", "Write Sheet" and "Write All" buttons just plain don't work.
b) Writing a CV by changing the value on the CV pane and clicking write can sometimes write nothing (no change), or write a zero value.
c) Changes to the CV pane are not always reflected in the other panes.
d) There's something wrong with how the CV pane understands the "state" of a CV's value. On other panes, this is reflected in the color. Here, it shows in the State column (which is not directly editable on purpose). But sometimes that State column is not right, e.g. an edited CV doesn't show as "Edited". And clicking the state column can change that (as if the state really had changed, but the display hadn't updated)
I've been able to reproduce a, b and d, and have no doubt that c happens too.
I'll look in to it soon. Sorry for the trouble. In the meantime, people might want to use the single-CV programmer instead of that pane for changing a single CV. You can (he said optimistically) have one of those and a set of panes open at the same time and use them both, but they won't see each others changes to values.
Has anybody had any problems with _reading_ CVs from the CV pane?
Bob
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Jon...
Another clue might be one other thing I just discovered. The Write All
button on the CVs tab doesn't do anything, whether I change one or more of
the CVs on the tab or not.
Aloha,
Jim
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Try this test. Program using the motor tab for those items.
Then close
DecoderPro and open it back up again. Then use the CV tab and see what
happens. If it stay the same as you have previously noted then
we may have
a bug. Jon... I performed the above test. Along the way, I discovered something by accident. After you enter a new value in the Value column, you click next door on the State column (which might say "From File" or "Stored") and it changes to "Edited". The good news: by doing this then clicking the Write button, the Value column now keeps the new value. The bad news: both the loco performance and the Motor tab now reflect zero. Closing and opening DecoderPro made no difference at any point along the way. No matter what I do or how I do it, this tab seems to only write zeroes. BTW, this was the third type of decoder I tried, so I think it's not related to any specific programmer. Aloha, Jim
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There are certain cases on certain panes where one button seems to be an
indicator and the other functional. The AD4 general pane works this way on
one of the numbers. I have not tested the one you are talking about.
Try this test. Program using the motor tab for those items. Then close
DecoderPro and open it back up again. Then use the CV tab and see what
happens. If it stay the same as you have previously noted then we may have
a bug.
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3) The tab with individual CVs seems like it may be a little flakey,
but no real proof yet. Others will want to confirm, but here's what I found. I tried this with two different locos, one with Soundtraxx and one with Digitrax. Exactly same behavior of the CV tab. Here's what I found: An acceleration value of 4 was written to the loco from the Motor tab and confirmed by performance. It was changed to 10 and confirmed. Then I went to the CV tab and noted that 10 was listed for CV3. On this CV tab, I changed the entry to 4, pressed Write and the number changed to 0, confirmed by loco performance. Then I changed the 0 to a 4 and wrote again. The number remained 0 and so did performance. I had to go back to the Motor tab to write the 4 back into the decoder. The CV tab then reflected the 4 as did the loco. I tested this on both locos and with various CVs. The CV tab seems broken in some way. BTW, my Single CV programmer works fine. Anybody else? Aloha, Jim
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DecoderPro: Outstanding!
Bob...
Got the DecoderPro 1.0.4 and LocoBuffer up and running with little
difficulty and, as a long time PR1 user, let me say this is what I've
been waiting for! You guys have done an outstanding job. Today I
enjoyed reading through most of the messages on this group to gain
some more knowledge and background.
Since constructive criticism is encouraged, here's mine (small ones,
actually):
1) I'd like to see DecoderPro follow the convention where, when you
tab to the next field, it's contents become highlighted so you can
immediately begin typing.
2) The lights tab on the DN140 does not reflect it's FX lighting
options. I have to use the DN142 programmer and ignore it's BEMF section.
3) The tab with individual CVs seems like it may be a little flakey,
but no real proof yet. I noticed that writing one particular CV on
that tab might have affected some others, but not sure. I'll test some
more.
So far I've only experimented with a SW1 w/DN140 and a Bachmann
3-Truck Shay w/Soundtraxx B3TSLC. They program perfectly. I've got
about 10 or 15 more locos with all kinds of decoders -- will report
back. So far I love this setup!!
Aloha,
Jim
Dinkey Creek & Lone Pine RR
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Bob I am a little thick head at times I found start here html thank for the help. do I need the pictures that downloaded for anything. I order a loco buffer can wait to try it (little kid in me )Thanks Wendell
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----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Jacobsen Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 6:01 PM To: jmriusers@... Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Decoder pro At 5:18 PM -0400 8/20/02, Wendell Camp wrote: Hi mike Bob sent me a cd tha I understood to have the install
program for java +decoder pro what I find on cd is 130 pictures that
are of ants +decoder pro screens= the same decoder pro information
on web site unless I'm not understanding some thing thanks Wendell
Sorry, have only intermittent email this week. The CD should have a "Start Here.html" file on it which, when opened in a browser, will show you how its structured. Basically, there's a directory or folder for each type of computer: Windows OS2 MacOS X Linux MacOS Classic Inside each, you'll find the things you need for that type of machine. For example, inside the "Windows" folder, you should find: Windows install.html - install instructions j2re-1_3_1_01-win.exe - this installs Java JMRI.1.0.exe - installer for the program COPYING - this is the license to use it Open the "Windows install.html" file with a browser for instructions. Note that the contents of the folders for other computer types will differ. There are some other directories/folders with reference information: site - this is a copy of the web site Source - this is the source code for the program Tools - installers for tools for building the program At this stage, you should ignore those and just install the program by following the "Start Here" instructions. Bob -- -------------- Bob Jacobsen (Bob_Jacobsen@..., 510-486-7355, fax 510-495-2957) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: jmriusers-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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At 5:18 PM -0400 8/20/02, Wendell Camp wrote: Hi mike Bob sent me a cd tha I understood to have the install program for java +decoder pro what I find on cd is 130 pictures that are of ants +decoder pro screens= the same decoder pro information on web site unless I'm not understanding some thing thanks Wendell
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Davison
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:16 PM
To: jmriusers@...; Wendell Camp
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Decoder pro
Wendell,
Bob mentioned that he would be a way from e-mail for a bit so perhaps if you provide a bit more background for your questions others can answer.
Ant is one of the development tools used to build Decoder Pro. You would use ant or Jbuilder if you wanted to modify the Decoder Pro/JMRI software. If you simply want to use the software you do not need ant. You need Decoder Pro, JMRI, Java and, depending on your computer/OS type, a Java serial port library.
cheers,
Mike
On Monday 19 August 2002 02:29 pm, Wendell Camp wrote:
Bob I don't know if I misunderstood but I thought the java install and decoder pro where on the cd whats with the ant pictures a little confused Wendell
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Jacobsen
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:49 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Decorder pro
>I want to down load decoder pro . can I down load to floppy dis so I
>can load it on to a laptop with only floppy drive
(Sorry, hit send too soon on that last one. I really need to get some sleep...)
If the laptop has a CD drive, write me off-list with your mailing address and I can send you a CD with all the needed installers, including Java.
Bob
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At 5:18 PM -0400 8/20/02, Wendell Camp wrote: Hi mike Bob sent me a cd tha I understood to have the install program for java +decoder pro what I find on cd is 130 pictures that are of ants +decoder pro screens= the same decoder pro information on web site unless I'm not understanding some thing thanks Wendell
Sorry, have only intermittent email this week. The CD should have a "Start Here.html" file on it which, when opened in a browser, will show you how its structured. Basically, there's a directory or folder for each type of computer: Windows OS2 MacOS X Linux MacOS Classic Inside each, you'll find the things you need for that type of machine. For example, inside the "Windows" folder, you should find: Windows install.html - install instructions j2re-1_3_1_01-win.exe - this installs Java JMRI.1.0.exe - installer for the program COPYING - this is the license to use it Open the "Windows install.html" file with a browser for instructions. Note that the contents of the folders for other computer types will differ. There are some other directories/folders with reference information: site - this is a copy of the web site Source - this is the source code for the program Tools - installers for tools for building the program At this stage, you should ignore those and just install the program by following the "Start Here" instructions. Bob -- -------------- Bob Jacobsen (Bob_Jacobsen@..., 510-486-7355, fax 510-495-2957)
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----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Davison Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:16 PM To: jmriusers@...; Wendell Camp Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Decoder pro Wendell, Bob mentioned that he would be a way from e-mail for a bit so perhaps if you provide a bit more background for your questions others can answer. Ant is one of the development tools used to build Decoder Pro. You would use ant or Jbuilder if you wanted to modify the Decoder Pro/JMRI software. If you simply want to use the software you do not need ant. You need Decoder Pro, JMRI, Java and, depending on your computer/OS type, a Java serial port library. cheers, Mike On Monday 19 August 2002 02:29 pm, Wendell Camp wrote: Bob I don't know if I misunderstood but I thought the java install and decoder pro where on the cd whats with the ant pictures a little confused Wendell
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Jacobsen
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:49 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Decorder pro
I want to down load decoder pro . can I down load to floppy dis so I
can load it on to a laptop with only floppy drive (Sorry, hit send too soon on that last one. I really need to get
some sleep...)
If the laptop has a CD drive, write me off-list with your mailing
address and I can send you a CD with all the needed installers,
including Java.
Bob
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Wendell, Bob mentioned that he would be a way from e-mail for a bit so perhaps if you provide a bit more background for your questions others can answer. Ant is one of the development tools used to build Decoder Pro. You would use ant or Jbuilder if you wanted to modify the Decoder Pro/JMRI software. If you simply want to use the software you do not need ant. You need Decoder Pro, JMRI, Java and, depending on your computer/OS type, a Java serial port library. cheers, Mike On Monday 19 August 2002 02:29 pm, Wendell Camp wrote: Bob I don't know if I misunderstood but I thought the java install and decoder pro where on the cd whats with the ant pictures a little confused Wendell
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Jacobsen
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 6:49 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Decorder pro
I want to down load decoder pro . can I down load to floppy dis so I
can load it on to a laptop with only floppy drive (Sorry, hit send too soon on that last one. I really need to get
some sleep...)
If the laptop has a CD drive, write me off-list with your mailing
address and I can send you a CD with all the needed installers,
including Java.
Bob
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can load it on to a laptop with only floppy drive (Sorry, hit send too soon on that last one. I really need to get some sleep...) If the laptop has a CD drive, write me off-list with your mailing address and I can send you a CD with all the needed installers, including Java. Bob -- -------------- Bob Jacobsen (Bob_Jacobsen@..., 510-486-7355, fax 510-495-2957) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: jmriusers-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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At 5:28 PM +0000 8/13/02, sixth_rule wrote:
my actual goal in this hole thing is to figure out simply how to make
a java program that
1) acesses the serial ports
2) reads all the loconet packets that come over the system
3) Write packets to the serial ports
Take a look at the jmri.jmrix.loconet.LocoNetInterface and jmri.jmrix.loconet.LocoNetListener interfaces. Basically, you write a class that implements LocoNetListener, and register it with a LocoNetInterface. Your class will then have its message(...) method called with each LocoNet message that's seen, and will be able to send messages. For a simple example, you might start by copying the code in the LocoNet turnout implementation, jmri.jmrix.loconet.LnTurnout. Bob -- -------------- Bob Jacobsen (Bob_Jacobsen@..., 510-486-7355, fax 510-495-2957)
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There was a comment that the compiler used by JB was different than the one used so far. Having dealt with compiler bugs, I wonder if this is a
concern? If so, would that be a reason to standardize on the ANT approach? We saw differences when we turned on/off debugging information. Not errors as such just differences in behaviour, which caused differences in class signatures, which caused differences in Serialization SerialVers - that's all. I would not panic and switch to ANT just because of compiler differences. Longer term you might want to go the ANT way anyway as you are in explicit control of the build process, rather than hoping that you clicked on the right thing in JBuilder to encourage it to do what you want. Usually this is not a problem but we have already seen the subtle way JB Personal is hobbled compared to Pro and Ent. Moving to ANT would potentially re-aligh the process. However this would require us all to get to know "yet another build process" as I only have second-hand knowlege of ANT as I had others sort it for us. Cheers Alex Shepherd
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