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Bob,
Reading one panel is fine. It will also write one pane. But then I
used to (change one pane) go to the Roster Entry pane, do a save and exit.
Now when I try and exit it tells me I didn't save. If I read the entire
group, do a save (without any changes to "other" panes), and then exit
everything is fine.

It also 'seems' different in the way it writes. I was changing an
address and it appeared to change, lights flickered on the tester, but
didn't seem to change the address. But I was testing a new FX3 Digitrax and
not really sure what was happening. I need to do a careful test here as I
was trying to do something else at the time and not paying much attention to
the DecoderPro actions.
(Shows how reliable it has become)
This and the above statement may have to do with the Digitrax FX3
decoders and nothing to do with DecoderPro so will do more testing today.

Has anyone else been programming the new FX3 series and noticed anything
different?

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

At 2:06 PM -0700 9/29/02, Jon Miller wrote:

Still testing but I seem to remember I could change one pane and then do
a save and that was it. It appears that this version wants me to read the
entire program and then do a save. Is my memory bad or is it different this
way.

It's not supposed to be different. But I certainly could have broken something.

What happens if you try to read just the one pane?

Bob
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You are one very very very lucky guy ! <grin>

Still testing but I seem to remember I could change one pane and then do
a save and that was it. It appears that this version wants me to read the
entire program and then do a save. Is my memory bad or is it different this
way.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Peter,

I never realised it before, but that will explain why I am
nominated to do all the interiors for the buildings & passenger
cars.
Sorry fully booked up for next episode of Lord Of The Rings

Ron McKinnon
Middle Earth (Wellington)
New Zealand.
(Peter Jackson Hobbit Country.)

On the Digitrax FX3 series the Digitrax pane has a control for F5 to
turn BEMF on or off. As far as I can tell F5 doesn't do this anymore for
this series. Is this correct?

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

To: Peter Ely

Now that is worth a chuckle. Perhaps we have a 'eeny-miney-minney-me' that
could do the next Austin Powers sequel in HO scale animation.


Bob Young
P.O Box 1401
Clinton, Ontario, Canada
N0M1L0
Web Page: www.tcc.on.ca/~bobyoung

Ron McKinnon [mailto:rim1@...]

wrote

" Sorry. I am an HO person. "


Any chance that you and your friends could drop by our layout ? We have
a lot of buildings and locomotives that really could use the animation
of a live HO person. Free room, board and transport ! Also we have
several tunnels that need inspecting that you'd bemuch better suited
fror than we full size humans.

Let us know....

Cheers, Peter

Peter C. Ely mailto:cprail1@...
Head DCC guy, Santa Susana Pacific Railroad
Open to the Public Sundays 1-4
Charter Member of the NMRA DCC Working Group

Bob (s)

Sorry. I am an HO person.

The DN122K2 is a drop in board specifically made for the Kata N
Scale RDC. The Loys Toys News Letter of April 2002 says :
".... It's a weird little thing - in three pieces connected by
wires. This decoder replaces the light board that comes with the
RDC. Specs are; 1 amp, 2 125 mA functions, Back- EMF control, and
Transponding."
Don't know any more than this.

On the other hand my data sheet that came with my DZ121's (for my
switchers) lists the following features:

"1.0 Amp , Back- EMF control (CV's 55, 56, 57 & 61), supports
both short & long address modes."
"User Programmable Address, Acceleration,Deceleration, Start
Voltage, Mid Point Voltage, Max Voltage & more usable in 128
speed step mode." (CV's 01,02, 03, 04, 05, 06)
"Automatic conversion to analog operation with functions
operational." (CV 29)
"Two user configurable, independent Function leads rated at
125mA. Use these as regular Function Leads or as Directional
Lights, or User Configurable Strobe lights. (CS)" (CV's 61,49,
50)
"14, 28, or 128 forward & reverse speed step capabilities" (CV
29)
"User Loadable Speed Tables for customized speed control & loco
speed matching with 128 speed step resolution." (CV's 65 - 95)
"Supports Basic, Universal & Advances Consisting"
"User configurable Loco Direction of Travel... (CV 29). &
Integrated Digitrax Transponder."

The following is a copy of the Digitrax Applications Note on
their WebSite for the effects of programming CV01 on the DZ121:

(Quote)
"DZ121 Programming Note: Short Address (CV01) "

"When programming the short address (CV01) in your DZ121, the
decoder will automatically set CV19 to 0, CV29 to 0, CV 55 to 80,
CV56 to 30 & CV57 to 0. This is done to insure compatibility with
DCC systems that only recognize short addressing (2 digit mode).
When using long addressing (4 digit addressing) these CV's are
not affected."

"After changing the short address (CV01), you will probably want
to change CV29 to 06 or another appropriate value based on your
operations. You can do this on the programming track or, if you
forget, you can use Operations Mode to do this once the loco is
back on the layout."

"Setting CV19 to 0 clears consisting (this is required for NMRA
compatibility)."

"CV 55, 56 & 57 control the decoder's Back EMF Speed
Stabilization feature. Programming the short address will return
these values to the default values for BEMF and will turn BEMF
OFF. If you wish to use BEMF after programming a new address, you
can begin by programming CV57 to a value of 06. This will give
good performance with most brands of locomotives. If the
locomotive surges while using BEMF use a lower value for CV56. It
may also be necessary to adjust CVs 55, 56 & 57 to achieve the
motor performance desired for your particular locomotive."

"This page is copyrighted by Digitrax, Inc., 1999.
Page updated 9-10-99 "
(End quote)

There is also an Application Note on the (CS) Configurable Strobe
Lights seting up at this address:


Hope this is of some use. or you may already have this
information.

Ron McKinnon
Wellington, New Zealand.

Slap my hands! Was doing much and had the wrong little blue package
plugged in. My correct CV7 is 49 so don't change anything. I always forget
to reboot DecoderPro when I upgrade so it was working at first and I plug in
other decoders to make sure and I just left the wrong one in.
I probably did that test last night with the wrong decoder also so will
work on that today.

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Paul,

I ran it on a similar, old PC but with much more memory. It was slow to
load but ran fine. Adding memory to your old box might be a quick, cheap
fix.

Robin Becker
Tucson, AZ
D&RGW Model Railroad Layout

Jon,

The lowest CV7 value I have recorded in the DecoderPro DB for the
DH163D is 49. If you confirm 34 as being correct, I'll add that
value to the DB.

Thanks
Bob B

Ron,

Do you know if programming for the DN122K2 is handled in the same
manner as the DZ121? Bob J and I are having difficulty determining
which group this decoder should be in and would appreciate any input
you or others in the list could offer.

Bob B

--- In jmriusers@y..., Ron McKinnon <rim1@i...> wrote:

Bob B

You beat me to it. This may need it's own file, as it does funny
things when resetting certain CV's.
I have read this decoder's CV's using the DH140 definition, but
have not explored it past this.

Ron McKinnon
Wellington, New Zealand.


On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 23:33:19 -0000, you wrote:

The Digitrax DZ121 appears to be listed in the wrong group? It

has

BEMF, which cannot be addressed from it's current group. I've an
email around here somewhere that describes it's features. I'll

try to

find it and post it for reference.

I've still a few other features to check out but so far so good.

Bob

Sorry, can't say for sure as I've never programmed one. Perhaps
someone on the list that owns one could comment as well as provide
CV7 and 8 values for it.

Bob

--- In jmriusers@y..., Bob Jacobsen <Bob_Jacobsen@l...> wrote:

You mentioned earlier that the DN122K2 also has BEMF. Do you know

if

that has the DZ121's program or is more like the DH142?

Bob
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I recently installed Decoder Pro on the following:
Pentium 100 Mhz, 40 MB RAM, Windows 98 SE
Digitrax DCS-100 w/ MS-100 Interface

Unfortunately, Java isn't running very well with an old machine like
this. It takes a few minutes for the application to startup and for
each response to a mouse click.

Are there any alternative programs other that PR1-DOS? I've been
using PR1-DOS for a few years with great results, but it doesn't
directly support the CVs on the newer decoders.

Thanks, Paul

Thanks. I'm looking to invest in minimal Digitrax hw so it looks like I wont
be able to program the BDL* with DecoderPro. Bummer, but it sounds like
programming it is pretty much a one-time deal so it shouldn't be too bad.

Time to give the latest DecoderPro some Linux+EasyDCC time again!

cheers,
Mike

On Friday 27 September 2002 10:30 pm, Bob Jacobsen wrote:

At 9:50 AM -0700 9/27/02, Mike Davison wrote:

Thanks, Bob. I'm considering adding Digitrax transponding to my EasyDCC

system

so am paying attention to discussions about Digitrax transponding. Digitrax
evidently designed their transponding hw to work with other DCC systems so
this should work. It looks like the BDL16 will provide output to

non-Loconet

devices (like SurroundTraxx from SoundTraxx).

A BDL16 (or the current version BDL162) can work independently of a
Digitrax command station. So it should be possible to hook up a
no-command-station-LocoNet for Surroundtraxx.

So, I'm being lazy now and not looking at the source code, but how is the
BDL16 programmed? Does it appear to the command station as a stationary
decoder? I'm wondering if I can program the BDL from my EasyDCC command
station or if more Digitrax hw is required.

It's programmed through the LocoNet itself, not like a decoder. So
you'll also need a MS100 or LocoBuffer (and I'm not sure that the
MS100 will work on a Linux machine, as it's an odd baud rate). But
if you get a BDL16 (_not_ BDL162) it comes pre-programmed to be the
master, which is what you're looking for.

And there's probably somebody in the neighborhood with a Digitrax
throttle who'd be happy to come over and help.

Bob
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I don't know if you have been following this on the Digitrax list but it
looks like they have a problem with the DZ143 and the **163. Following is a
comment from the fellow having the problem!

[I talked to John @ Digitrax today about the problem and apparently others
have had the same thing happen. He seemed to indicate that they did not know
the cause or the fix.]

Jon Miller
AT&SF
For me time has stopped in 1941
Digitrax DCC owner, Chief system
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Bob,

You'd think they must have a method at the factory of verifying that an FX3
decoder got the right firmware, which makes one wonder if there isn't some
unpublished method for determining the firmware functionality more
precisely. Know you have been talking to the mfrs, so I'm curious whether
you've had the chance to put this question to Digitrax?

Robin Becker
Tucson, AZ -----Original
Message-----
From: Bob Jacobsen [mailto:Bob_Jacobsen@...]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 7:56 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] ver 1.0.7


>Forgot to add, CV7=34, on the DH163D.
>

Wow. That's incredibly inconvenient, as according to Mike Mosher the
DH121 also has 34 in CV7.

Bob
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At 9:50 AM -0700 9/27/02, Mike Davison wrote:

Thanks, Bob. I'm considering adding Digitrax transponding to my EasyDCC system
so am paying attention to discussions about Digitrax transponding. Digitrax
evidently designed their transponding hw to work with other DCC systems so
this should work. It looks like the BDL16 will provide output to non-Loconet
devices (like SurroundTraxx from SoundTraxx).

A BDL16 (or the current version BDL162) can work independently of a Digitrax command station. So it should be possible to hook up a no-command-station-LocoNet for Surroundtraxx.

So, I'm being lazy now and not looking at the source code, but how is the
BDL16 programmed? Does it appear to the command station as a stationary
decoder? I'm wondering if I can program the BDL from my EasyDCC command
station or if more Digitrax hw is required.

It's programmed through the LocoNet itself, not like a decoder. So you'll also need a MS100 or LocoBuffer (and I'm not sure that the MS100 will work on a Linux machine, as it's an odd baud rate). But if you get a BDL16 (_not_ BDL162) it comes pre-programmed to be the master, which is what you're looking for.

And there's probably somebody in the neighborhood with a Digitrax throttle who'd be happy to come over and help.

Bob
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Bob Jacobsen (Bob_Jacobsen@..., 510-486-7355, fax 510-495-2957)

Forgot to add, CV7=34, on the DH163D.

Wow. That's incredibly inconvenient, as according to Mike Mosher the DH121 also has 34 in CV7.

Bob
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Bob Jacobsen (Bob_Jacobsen@..., 510-486-7355, fax 510-495-2957)