Re: Decoder pro cant read decoder
First no reading with POM. (Programming on Main)
Place your Lok on the programming track and do new decoder, followed by read type from decoder.
read the main page to get the Lok address. Find the pages with stuff you want to change and read those pages t00. (All is best if you have the time)
Save that as roster entry.
The you can go to POM and select that roster entry, which has the address and other data.
You can now program everything except the address with POM.
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Thomas
DeSoto, TX
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 02:32 PM, danielb987 wrote:
Ken,
Isn't that a question of whenever he is using 64bit or 32bit Java? If Java is 64bit, I would assume JMRI to be in C:\Program Files\JMRI and if Java is 32bit, I would assume JMRI to be in C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI.
Daniel
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Nope!
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On my Win11 layout computer, the 64-bit Java is in C:\Program Files, and JMRI is in C:\Program Files (x86).?
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I (almost!) always use the default paths when installing software, so that's where Windows put them.
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Steve
"Breezlys"
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Re: migrating from RR&C Train Controller 5.5 B1
Dale,
Just one comment, and that is that JMRI has full support for the
new NMRA LCC standards if you have any interest in that. Getting
LCC equipment to interface with Train Controller is convoluted at
best, and AFAIK involves converting all messages into LocoNet
format. I am not aware of any meaningful TC support for LCC
command stations. (existing or future) As of our last
conversations a year or so ago, the author of TC had no intention
of upgrading TC so that it could support the larger address space
used by LCC. (i.e. from 32 bit to 64 bit variables)
As a proprietary commercial program, that could change at any
moment without notice. I am just commenting based on my own
experience.
Dick :)
On 3/5/2025 11:39 AM, Nigel Cliffe via
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You're not likely to find any export path from Traincontroller
to another application (of which JMRI is just one of many
possible).
So, what is your question ?
Upgrading JMRI between releases is usually no problem. There are
sometimes issues when someone tries to jump many releases in one
hit, without doing all the steps for each upgrade, and then had
to untangle and do it properly.
But to replace your Traincontroller setup, you're? starting
again, and need to first work out if JMRI can do the tasks you
want completing. And then start constructing things inside JMRI
-? Nigel
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Hello esteemed group,
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I am curious as to the possibility of migrating from
RR&C Train Controller 5.5 B1 to JMRI. I have stumbled
across messages relating upgrading form old JMRI to the new
version and recommendations to start from scratch, aka the big
bang.
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Is there an upgrade path? Google search returns verbiage
about xml export and import. I have not found a layout and
config export in RR&C.
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Thanks,
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Dale Grice
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Peter, thanks for your quick answer.
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I felt that SignalPilot was similar to Switchpilot, because when creating a new decoder project in Lokprogrammer, SignalPilot is the first selectable one in the Switchpilot tab of decoder selections.
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I will try to have a look to some of the Switchpilot supported by DecoderPro to have an idea of how to define one for SignalPilot and, in the meantime, if any other colleague is building something specific for SignalPilot I would appreciate any idea of help for doing it.
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Regards
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Peter,
"routes, trains, manifests, and operations" are parts of Operations, which is used to move cargo between locations, such as staging, yards and industries.
Running trains automatically is normally done using the Dispatcher tools. ?This is implemented by Sections and Transits. ?The initial help page is at?
You can also use Jython scripting to automate running trains but that is a lot of programming work.
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] Help learning automation
Date: Thursday, March 06, 2025 2:05 PM
Hi All,
? I decided 3 months ago today to 'dive' into DCC based model railroading for the first time, though I've know about it for 25+ years.? I figured
getting started was the best way- and I have a long shelf along the wall behind my home standing desk that I envisioned as the main line for sort of a dog-bone layout.?
? So.. I dove into n scale, Digitrax, Kato Unitrack, and have my training layout built (already on Version2 of it - as you all alluded to here!).? My layout has 16 blocks (BXP88 controlled), 1 auto rev section, one double crossover, about 10 turnouts (all with DS15k1s - don't get me started on that learning curve with BXP88s and shunt resistors).? Scenery is a future vision, after I really understand operations.
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And on to this email. I have installed JMRI - I am a Mac guy , so this is running on Mac Mini.? I have PanelPro running, talking to my LocoNet layout. I built the layout in layout editor, declared all the blocks, turnouts etc. I used the roster editor to enter my 3 engines (one is a consisted F7A-B unit).. And lots of learning - at the basic level I am up an running. I can run trains via throttles in JMRI, and blocks light up and turnout throw - that's all awesome , it was my first goal 'run trains from SW'.
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However, the NEXT step looks like a really steep learning curve - creating, routes, trains, manifests, and operations.? My next goal is that JMRI can run trains on routes I create, and manage them simultaneously - an automated operations setup.? I watch all the videos I can (not too encouraged by what I find on YouTube), and I joined this group a month or two ago which has been great.?
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So my ask is this - any other tutorials, pointers, help with this next part of the journey?? ?Advice, hints, and help greatly appreciated.?
-Peter
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Ken,
Isn't that a question of whenever he is using 64bit or 32bit
Java? If Java is 64bit, I would assume JMRI to be in C:\Program
Files\JMRI and if Java is 32bit, I would assume JMRI to be in
C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI.
Daniel
On 2025-03-06 15:52, Ken Cameron wrote:
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I see how it used to be in C:\Program
Files\JMRI, which isn’t right. You now have the correct path
of C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI. As I understand it, the system
expects things in the first path to be true 64bit programs and
the second path being 32bit programs. Exactly how that works
I’m not sure anymore. But just going with the default is the
better path.
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It is behaving ok now?
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-Ken
Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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The SignalPilot and SwitchPilot are two different things, I assume the SignalPilot can't use the SwitchPilot definition. Since there is no definition in JMRI for the SignalPilot you will need to wait for someone to create one or create one yourself. -- Peter Ulvestad Linux Mint 22.1, JMRI 5.11.3plus, Java 21.0.5 JMRI Users Group Moderator ( /g/jmriusers ) JMRI Developers Group Moderator ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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Decoder pro cant read decoder
I have a Athern model big boy model 22900 dcc w sound #4005. I cant read the decoder with digitrax or decoder pro on programming track.
i would like to try on the main.
i put engine on mainline. First i cant choose mainline programming. So i put an engine i can read on the programming track ,read it, select main line programming. Shut off decoder pro. Turn on
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I don’t know what decoder it is so i choose the decoder manually using sound train tsunami -steam and get many to choose from so i pick one at random to open a programming window and go to the motor page. I enter a long address and try writing. ?Get message it cant find a loco on the main but its there and power is on.
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please tell me how to get this one cv changed on the decoder..
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i cant read the decoder type when on the main
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please list a procedure
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also does anyone know what decoder is in this engine.
also same for challenger model 22923?
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tony
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Hi, I am a new user of DecoderPro, I have installed
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Wiundows 11?
JMRI 5.10 and later on 5.11.3 installed
Java 17
?Using as central station an Intellibox I, COM=3, Loconet, 19.200bps
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I defined the CVs for a brand new SignalPilot using lokprogrammer software, exported as CSV and imported in DecoderPro as a Switchpilot.
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Started to program SignalPilot in the Programming track, everything goes OK till CV118, after that I get error message:
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Exception during CV write: java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: “16.6.306”
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CV118 is just where the indexed CVs in the ESU decoder start.
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I looked for some other CVs till then and they seems to have been correctly programmed, but with this error DecoderPro hungs and the only way is to stop the OpenJava task via Task manager in Windows system.
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Is there any possibility to solve that error and to do the full SignalPilot programming?
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Thanks and regards.
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Javier
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Hi All,
? I decided 3 months ago today to 'dive' into DCC based model railroading for the first time, though I've know about it for 25+ years.? I figured
getting started was the best way- and I have a long shelf along the wall behind my home standing desk that I envisioned as the main line for sort of a dog-bone layout.?
? So.. I dove into n scale, Digitrax, Kato Unitrack, and have my training layout built (already on Version2 of it - as you all alluded to here!).? My layout has 16 blocks (BXP88 controlled), 1 auto rev section, one double crossover, about 10 turnouts (all with DS15k1s - don't get me started on that learning curve with BXP88s and shunt resistors).? Scenery is a future vision, after I really understand operations.
?
And on to this email. I have installed JMRI - I am a Mac guy , so this is running on Mac Mini.? I have PanelPro running, talking to my LocoNet layout. I built the layout in layout editor, declared all the blocks, turnouts etc. I used the roster editor to enter my 3 engines (one is a consisted F7A-B unit).. And lots of learning - at the basic level I am up an running. I can run trains via throttles in JMRI, and blocks light up and turnout throw - that's all awesome , it was my first goal 'run trains from SW'.
?
However, the NEXT step looks like a really steep learning curve - creating, routes, trains, manifests, and operations.? My next goal is that JMRI can run trains on routes I create, and manage them simultaneously - an automated operations setup.? I watch all the videos I can (not too encouraged by what I find on YouTube), and I joined this group a month or two ago which has been great.?
?
So my ask is this - any other tutorials, pointers, help with this next part of the journey?? ?Advice, hints, and help greatly appreciated.?
-Peter
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I see how it used to be in C:\Program Files\JMRI, which isn’t right. You now have the correct path of C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI. As I understand it, the system expects things in the first path to be true 64bit programs and the second path being 32bit programs. Exactly how that works I’m not sure anymore. But just going with the default is the better path. ? It is behaving ok now? ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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The following items have been added to the Files area of the [email protected] group.
By: Inspectordave <inspectordave51@...>
Description:
Files on the issue updating from 5.6 to 5.10.
I think I see the problem. My file location for JMRI was C:Program files JMRI
When I loaded it in the X86 that is when the problems were resolved. However when using version 5.6, those files were in the C:Program files JMRI folder. Thoughts are appreciated.
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Ken, I placed a zip of the messy log files in the files folder like you suggested.
Thank you
Inspector Dave
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Oops. I apologize… i used the wrong email chain.
Cheers
Geo
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On Mar 5, 2025, at 22:17, Peter Ulvestad via groups.io <ulvestad@...> wrote:
?Georgia,
You appear to be responding to the wrong topic thus hijacking this one.
Please make your responses to your original topic.
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Peter Ulvestad
Linux Mint 22.1, JMRI 5.11.3plus, Java 21.0.5
JMRI Users Group Moderator ( /g/jmriusers )
JMRI Developers Group Moderator ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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Georgia, You appear to be responding to the wrong topic thus hijacking this one. Please make your responses to your original topic. -- Peter Ulvestad Linux Mint 22.1, JMRI 5.11.3plus, Java 21.0.5 JMRI Users Group Moderator ( /g/jmriusers ) JMRI Developers Group Moderator ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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You said you used 50:1 for the starting point. But later you mention switching between the PH5 and the PowerCab. What address did you set when using the PowerCab? It only works for cab 3 to 10. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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First question, does the ‘Show Cabs’ show the existence of the AIU? This is proving the address on the cab bus.
I’ll check this tomorrow evening after work.? ? Second question, in JMRI, when you created a sensor, which form of hardware address did you use: your calculated value or the form of cabid:pin#?
I created the sensors by inputting 50:1 thru 50:14 and 51:1 thru 51:14 by selecting the first sensor and the clicking on: create 14 in the series. this created 28 sensors. I tied these to the associated blocks . When i manually set any of the sensors to active, ?the blocks display properly on the layout editor.? The second form insures the right value for the sensor. ? Third, does the LED on each AIU pin show a change of dark to lit??
All AIU ports 1 thru 14 on both AIUs are using BD20s for current detection. Note: when i utilize my NCE PowerCAB everything works perfectly. It’s only when i swap out the PowerCab with the PowerPro that i lose all the AIU reporting data. This proves to me the AIUs and BD20 are operating properly and that the problem lies in either the PowerPro sending AIU data or JMRI receiving data AIU data from a PowerPro unit.? ? Fourth, which devices are tied to the AIU board?
NCE BD20s on all ports.?
Cheers Geo
On Mar 5, 2025, at 20:56, Ken Cameron via groups.io <kcameron@...> wrote:
? Georgia, ? Now you have a good version that should be able to read, we now can go deeper on how JMRI is or isn’t seeing the AIU. ? First question, does the ‘Show Cabs’ show the existence of the AIU? This is proving the address on the cab bus. ? Second question, in JMRI, when you created a sensor, which form of hardware address did you use: your calculated value or the form of cabid:pin#? The second form insures the right value for the sensor. ? Third, does the LED on each AIU pin show a change of dark to lit? ? Fourth, which devices are tied to the AIU board? ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Georgia, ? Now you have a good version that should be able to read, we now can go deeper on how JMRI is or isn’t seeing the AIU. ? First question, does the ‘Show Cabs’ show the existence of the AIU? This is proving the address on the cab bus. ? Second question, in JMRI, when you created a sensor, which form of hardware address did you use: your calculated value or the form of cabid:pin#? The second form insures the right value for the sensor. ? Third, does the LED on each AIU pin show a change of dark to lit? ? Fourth, which devices are tied to the AIU board? ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Hi, i’ll send everything over the weekend.? I completed the firmware update; now reads jan 5 2025. NCE system is working fine but still no joy on the AIU signal data. ?I reset everything, rebooted tried a few times no go. ?I even deleted all the sensors in the sensor table and created new ones. Didn’t help.? Cheers
Capt Georgia Hilton USCG Instructor? Maritime Professional Training Ft Lauderdale, FL 917-279-4413 GHilton@... CaptainGeorgia.com
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? One idea I have to help figure this sort of thing out is to make a zip of the log directory in JMRI then upload it to the website files under ‘problems being worked on’ for us to review. ? Two things would come from that. First where you were working last. What version of Java etc… It may also record some issue on trying to start that might give a clue too. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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One idea I have to help figure this sort of thing out is to make a zip of the log directory in JMRI then upload it to the website files under ‘problems being worked on’ for us to review. ? Two things would come from that. First where you were working last. What version of Java etc… It may also record some issue on trying to start that might give a clue too. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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