Thanks. So you should be able to address these as the same ¡°NTnnn¡± addresses they had before. The LTnnn addresses you discussed in another email are irrelevant. (Adding an electrical booster doesn¡¯t change anything about how JMRI addresses things) If that¡¯s not working, it¡¯s an electrical issue around the booster. Bob On Dec 25, 2019, at 6:14 PM, WHurry <Wttr@...> wrote:
Bob,
The DCC Specialties Jack Wabbit (JW) board has four independent stationery decoders. The JW is wired to the Tortoise machine to provide power to close/throw the turnout. The JW board also has connections to provide turnout feedback for the four turnouts to the Loconet.
Originally, the JW board was directly connected to the NCE track bus. With this configuration, the power for the Tortoises is provided by the NCE booster as well as the DCC signal to the decoders on the JW.
To reduce the load on the NCE booster, a Tam Valley accessory booster was installed. The Tam Valley accessory booster has its own power supply. The Tam Valley booster is connected to the NCE booster track bus for the DCC signal. The Tam Valley booster passes through the DCC signal and now provides the power for the JWs to operate the Tortoise machines.
I hope this clarifies the situation.
Bill R
-- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Ken, On Dec 25, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Ken Cameron <kcameron@...> wrote:
?I have a layout computer and have been dispatching via a TeamViewer
connection. I'd like to make a CTC panel on another computer that would
control that computer instead of running everything on the layout computer.
Is there an example of a server and client computer somebody could point me
to? Seeing examples usually works better than the docs.
I have a friend who¡¯s layout was using this until the computer he had been using as his communications server died over the summer.
I am in the process of rebuilding the communications computer ( remotely, from several hundred miles away... not a quick process )
The server configuration is in a github repository now ( here:??). I need to get the client configuration up on github as well. ?Send me a reminder next week, and I¡¯ll make sure I get that posted ( I am 600 miles away from any of the files I need right now ).
We did discover that a bug was introduced to the server at some point in the last 4 years, which was the last time the configuration was changed, ?and that needs to be fixed for things to work correctly now ( status requests are being truncated by 1 character... )
Paul
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With all the discuss of Routes and LRoutes recently, I decided to look into using them. ?My question is ¡°Routes vs LRoutes?¡± ?According to the documentation of LRoutes, ¡°LRoutes extend the capabilities of Routes... LRoutes are capable of performing all of the tasks that Routes can do. For further discussion and examples consult the main?.¡± ?So is there any reason to use Routes if you are just starting down this path, rather than the ¡°extension¡± LRoutes?
Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, and Happy New Year to all!
Jerry
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Bill,
Most likely the addition of the TV Booster change your System Name in your table Turnouts. The problem could be the Icons are associated with the old User name verses system name which causes the confusion.?
Sometimes these types of problems require the deletion of the switches and rebuilding the association with the icons
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Inobu ?
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Bob,?
The DCC Specialties Jack Wabbit (JW) board has four independent stationery decoders. ?The JW is wired to the Tortoise machine to provide power to close/throw the turnout. The JW board also has connections to provide turnout feedback for the four turnouts to the Loconet.
Originally, the JW board was directly connected to the NCE track bus. ?With this configuration, the power for the Tortoises is provided by the NCE booster as well as the DCC signal to the decoders on the JW.
To reduce the load on the NCE booster, a Tam Valley accessory booster was installed. ?The Tam Valley accessory booster has its own power supply. ?The Tam Valley booster is connected to the NCE booster track bus for the DCC signal. ?The Tam Valley booster passes through the DCC signal and now provides the power for the JWs to operate the Tortoise machines.
I hope this clarifies the situation.?
Bill R
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I¡¯m very confused about how you have this wired. The post immediately below makes it sound like the turnout accessory decoders are attached to the LocoNet. But your prior post (appended below) made it sounds like they¡¯re attached to the DCC signal from the NCE command station. Could you describe in detail how the turnout accessory decoders are wired? What type are they, were do they get their power, where do they get their signal(s)? Bob On Dec 25, 2019, at 4:13 PM, WHurry <Wttr@...> wrote:
Initially, there was no observable activity on the Loconet when using the panel icon or via the table. I started by creating a NCE turnout (NTxxx). I modified the Loconet turnout (LTxxx) to have the NTxxx as a secondary turnout. That allowed me to make changes to the actual turnout via the panel icon with partial success. Depending on how the feedback was set up for the LTxxx and the NTxxx turnouts (different combinations of Monitoring and Direct), there was no successful combination of feedback settings that was 100% successful.
While observing the Loconet activity, sometimes the following message would appear: ¡°Request Command Stations Op Switches (or DCS210/DCS240 check for multiple command stations on Loconet).
I currently have a DCS240 provide the Loconet for the layout. (This was recommended to me when I initially started and have been told by others that this was bad advice.) Until I decide to replace the DCS240, is there something I could change (DCS240 CVS?) in the meantime)? On Dec 24, 2019, at 4:25 PM, WHurry <Wttr@...> wrote:
System consists of Power House Pro-R, PB5, and a stand-alone Loconet.
To unload the PB5 booster, I installed a Tam Valley accessory booster to power the turnout Tortoise machines. Upon power up of the layout including the Tam Valley accessory booster, operation of the layout was normal.
The PB5 booster load was reduced as expected. I can operate the turnouts via the throttle as well as the local push buttons. The changes made to the turnouts via these two methods (throttle and local push buttons) were properly indicated the layout panel.
-- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Initially, there was no observable activity on the Loconet when using the panel icon or via the table. I started by creating a NCE turnout (NTxxx). ?I modified the Loconet turnout (LTxxx) to have the NTxxx as a secondary turnout. ?That allowed me to make changes to the actual turnout via the panel icon with partial success. ?Depending on how the feedback was set up for the LTxxx and the NTxxx turnouts (different combinations of Monitoring and Direct), there was no successful combination of feedback settings that was 100% successful. ?
While observing the Loconet activity, sometimes the following message would appear: ?¡°Request Command Stations Op Switches (or DCS210/DCS240 check for multiple command stations on Loconet).
?I currently have a DCS240 provide the Loconet for the layout. ?(This was recommended to me when I initially started and have been told by others that this was bad advice.) ?Until I decide to replace the DCS240, is there something I could change (DCS240 CVS?) in the meantime)?
Bill R
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Torgrim, On 26 Dec 2019, at 9:31 AM, Torgrim Gjelsvik via Groups.Io <torgrimg@...> wrote:
I don't know the interfaces her, between JMRI, SPROG driver and SPROG hardware.
But I guess the SPROG driver is a generic ftdi driver, That depends on your SPROG and Operating System types. Some use FTDI, my SPROG IIv3 reports as a generic modem-class device and in the case of macOS at least, uses inbuilt Apple drivers. But your problem isn't in that area. and what I see in the SPROG console is what JMRI sends to the USB port. I'd also be looking at the JMRI system console for any error messages.
I pulled out the scope and probed the DCC signal - the hardware keeps the frequency going in both cases.
The messages sent from JMRI are inserted into the idle stream.
In the erroneous state, the only thing that is sent is the signal decoder packets when I change a signal mast.
When pushing a turnout, *nothing* comes in the SPROG console, meaning JMRI sends nothing?
Even if the turnout changes on screen.
It sounds like JMRI thinks the SPROG is not in command station mode, or some other issue like inconsistent states. There are some different code paths for Signal commands sent to SPROG versus Turnout Commands sent to SPROG.
In the functioning state, JMRI keeps continuously sending "decoder idle packets", (FF 00 FF), mixed with signal and turnout packets.
That's correct. Check the JMRI system console for any error messages. Dave in Australia
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Yes, the SPROG connection *is* configured as "SPROG command station".
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I don't know the interfaces her, between JMRI, SPROG driver and SPROG hardware.
But I guess the SPROG driver is a generic ftdi driver, and what I see in the SPROG console is what JMRI sends to the USB port.
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I pulled out the scope and probed the DCC signal - the hardware keeps the frequency going in both cases.
The messages sent from JMRI are inserted into the idle stream.
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In the erroneous state, the only thing that is sent is the signal decoder packets when I change a signal mast.
When pushing a turnout, *nothing* comes in the SPROG console, meaning JMRI sends nothing?
Even if the turnout changes on screen.
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In the functioning state, JMRI keeps continuously sending "decoder idle packets", (FF 00 FF), mixed with signal and turnout packets.
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I have now installed v 4.18, and the symptoms are now not so consistent.
The error state now comes more randomly, and it can take longer before it appears.
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Torgrim
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David P,
That sounds like a great way, but you are not using simple server, but the
LCC bus as the distribution method. At least you say all the computers are
on the LCC bus and not a single JMRI computer connected to the layout and
the other computers talking to it.
I'm looking for examples of using the JMRI simple server method and how to
correctly setup the sensors and turnouts at the remote computer. I've got
some sensors working but not well, there seems odd delays and such. So I'm
looking for a running example to poke into so I can confirm if I'm doing
some of it wrong.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Ken ? My answer is LCC specific.? We had originally planned to use an Ethernet network for the functionality described, but found that OpenLCB works flawlessly.? .All our computers (11 in total with 16 screens) are connected via the CAN network (LCC).? We have separated all logix that is for display only from the CTC functional logic.? Each computer has a JMRI Configuration panel that selectively enables various clusters of the CTC logix.? Thus the CTC logic can be executed in a local computer with the CTC display or any other computer as we wish.? This allow for us to configure the layout for any combination of tower control or central CTC control.? When all logic is executed in a central CTC computer we use a modern style display similar to Cats in look and function.? The modern style CTC takes up less space and has considerably less work load for the operator than the old style CTC panels used with the Towers. ? We can thus blend any configuration of operator controlled CTC and trains with autonomous trains using JMRI Warrants.? We are planning to eventually replace the old style computer CTC touch-panel displays with hardware CTC. ? David Parks Los Altos, CA
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Anyone with an example of using simple server?
I have a layout computer and have been dispatching via a TeamViewer
connection. I'd like to make a CTC panel on another computer that would
control that computer instead of running everything on the layout computer.
Is there an example of a server and client computer somebody could point me
to? Seeing examples usually works better than the docs.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Am 24.12.2019 um 20:54 schrieb tim_p1964@...: comments appreciated as to any methods of loading the files from the sound directory automatically and determining their lengths would be helpful? Tim, Here is a short example of how this could be done. import time import jmri buffer = audio.provideAudio("IAB1") buffer.setURL("program:resources/sounds/Crossing.wav") length = 1000.0 * buffer.getLength() / buffer.getFrequency() / 1000.0 print "Clip length in seconds:", length source = audio.provideAudio("IAS1") source.setAssignedBuffer("IAB1") source.play() time.sleep(length) source.rewind() source.play() Klaus
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Here is the Jython code the Northern Virginia Model Railroaders (NVMR) club uses to synthesize speech in JMRI running on Windows 10:
msg = sensors.getSensor(readySensorSystemName).comment
scrollArea.setText(scrollArea.getText() + msg + "\n")
this is where you select the voice synthesizer (speak, espeak, or nircmd)
if snSpkChgCheckBox.isSelected():
#pid = java.lang.Runtime.getRuntime().exec(["speak", msg])
#pid = java.lang.Runtime.getRuntime().exec(["C:\Program Files (x86)\eSpeak\command_line\espeak", msg])
pid = java.lang.Runtime.getRuntime().exec('nircmd speak text "' + msg + '" -2 100')
pid.waitFor()
nircmd is from and synthesizes msg and plays it through speakers directly
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Bill R,
Key is confirming it works from the turnout table in JMRI. If for some
reason that isn't working, the panel will clearly not work. Using the
command monitor for the connection will also help to confirm the message is
being passed out.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Hi Tim,
If you can convert this (one answer below the accepted one in the link? below) into a jython script you'd be home and dry, I think. Otherwise, you might consider creating it as a library 'as is' and calling it from jython. Or maybe someone involved in JMRI development could take it upon them to do this as an exported support routine so the standard scripting could get at it.
Wouter
Hi all
this is what Iv'e ended up at:
# Simple script to setup audio objects
import time
import jmri
from javax.vecmath import Vector3f
fileorder=[5, 4, 1, 3, 7, 6, 0, 0, 0, 0]
filetime = {5: 2.6, 4: 0.5, 1: 0.6, 3: 0.8, 2: 1.4, 6: 1.5, 7:1.5}
for plloop in range(0, len(fileorder)):
??? filechk = fileorder[plloop]
??? if filechk != 0:
??????? # Create the first Audio Source object
??????? filepointer = "IAS" + str(fileorder[plloop])
??????? source1 = audio.provideAudio(filepointer)
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??????? # Assign Audio Buffer to this Audio Source
??????? filepointer = "IAB" + str(fileorder[plloop])
??????? source1.setAssignedBuffer(filepointer)
???????
??????? # Start playing the first Audio Source
??????? source1.play()
??? print
??????? delay = filetime[fileorder[plloop]]
??? print(delay)
??????? time.sleep(delay)
it requires the manual loading of audio files into the JMRI audio buffers, when the script is then run it reads the file order list which is easily set with software sets up the audio source and buffers and then starts playing the files. the delay between one file and the next is set in the dictionary entry. Again these values have been manually arrived at.
So in theory once all the sound files are loaded in the buffers and timings determined for the dictionary it will work.
comments appreciated as to any methods of loading the files from the sound directory automatically and determining their lengths would be helpful?
Tim
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I omitted the fact that the Tam Valley accessory booster is used to power a number of DCC Specialties Jack Wabbits? that power the Tortoise machines.? The Tam Valley booster has its own power supply.? The Tam Valley booster is connected to the booster bus and output from the Tam Valley booster is connected to a bus that is connected to all of the Jack Wabbits.
Bill R
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There is a club in Virginia that has Jython scripts send text to an external speech synthesizer. I¡¯ll see if I can find a version of the script they use.
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Jay:
CMRINet IS Dr Chubb¡¯s protocol, you use it when use your SMINIs, SUSICs etc. ?Bruce and the late Chuck Catania took the spec Bruce published and extended it and then we, as the CMRI SIG, submitted it as NMRA Layout Control Spec S ?9-10. So the classic nodes, cpNode, the Arduino CMRI Library and a bunch of home brew systems all ¡±Speak¡± CMRINet. ?You can mix and match all of these nodes any way you like. (Of course each node needs a unique address).?
JMRI uses the CMRINet protocol and it knows about SUSIC, SMINI and cpNodes. Check out Chuck¡¯s excellent configuration and management tools for CMRINet on JMRI under ¡°CMRI¡± on the panel pro control panel.? Seth Neumann
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On Dec 24, 2019, at 8:13 PM, Jay Beckham <james@...> wrote:
?What does the CMRInet Protocol have to do with using JMRI with traditional CMRI hardware e.g. SMINI, SUSIC, and other CMRI hardware?? Is that only applical to CPNode and/or LCS?? The subject came up in JMRI Hardware Support - Chubb C/MRI writeup.
Thanks
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What does the CMRInet Protocol have to do with using JMRI with traditional CMRI hardware e.g. SMINI, SUSIC, and other CMRI hardware?? Is that only applical to CPNode and/or LCS?? The subject came up in JMRI Hardware Support - Chubb C/MRI writeup.
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Bob Jacobsen
Ken Cameron